There's nothing of interest at that link. |
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So let me get this straight - you gave someone you don't know US$550 because they promised to give you US$660 back, and now you're crying because they didn't follow through? This thread gets dumber and dumber... |
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A complaint, nicely worded, leads to ignore? You're a real pro, dude. This and Havelock's obvious problems lead me to get in on this late. (That and that crap LMB Holdings site). You guys have been working hard - but this is no excuse for lack of polity and ridiculous prices for transfers. No wonder you washed your hands of Asicminer. This thing will be a gold mine once Havelock shuts down.  God you are a moaning little arsehole. If you only have $100 of shares (27 by last count) you get them transferred for free. And you're now on my ignore list as well. |
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Hmm, I am beginning to dislike this Havelock business. Perhaps I should have researched a bit about them before sending coins to them last week.
It's not even morning in Panama. The server will have gone down overnight and they'll need to restart it in a couple of hours when they wake up, or maybe they're finally updating their website. No need to panic quite yet. |
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Looks like we are on track to hit .01 share price, maybe after the merchant announcement.
jeez, I was wondering when someone was going to make this prediction. I'm waiting for 1 btc share price. You mean when the company becomes worth more than every bitcoin in circulation? |
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yesterday I sent 0.001 to ponzi.io and was recorded as transaction #4712.
Go to ponzi.io now and load the page and it says it's on "transaction #4711"
So someone sets up a bogus page that always loads with the same info and everyone who sends in a BTC is a just a sucker.
About right?
Yes, you are a sucker. And an absolute fucking idiot. I can say that without any reservations because of the clear indications in this thread that ponzi.io was no longer paying out. You allowed your greed to overrule all your other thought processes, something only an absolute moron would do in light of all the available evidence. |
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I'm sorry for everyone that lost in the bitfunder drama but it's time to move on.
Way too many unanswered questions, regards events, other peoples involvement, and resolution, for that to happen. Until theres some transparency regarding this, expect the foul smell to linger. Take this discussion elsewhere. |
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Quiz: Why hasn't the increase of 1 trillion USD per year not caused hyperinflation, as prominent gold-figures promised that it would?
Quiz: When has any nation been able to survive a debt-to-GDP ratio as large as those of the US and the UK? It's manageable as long as it's internal debt. Quiz 2: What will people turn to when this all goes tits-up?
To whatever the elite instruct them to / make it lawful to. Don't forget they've outlawed gold in the past. A further quiz which addresses something entirely fundamental for the discussion: Why is gold valuable?Is it the most heavy? No. (check platinum/irridium/osmium etc) Is it the most electrically conductive? No. (Silver) Is it the most thermally conductive? No. (Diamond / Silver) Is it the most incorruptible? No. (Platinum is better even in aqua regia) Is it the only colored metal? No. (Copper is too) Is it the rarest? Not by a large margin (platinum 150 tns/yrs / gold 2500 tns per year, other metals of the PGE group range in the few tons) Is it catalytic? No. (Platinum / Rhodium / Palladium etc are) Is it a source of energy, like Uranium? No. Why are the rich, the countries and ordinary people hoarding it? Mikcik is quite right about avoiding future conversations with you. You are coming at this from a very strange angle indeed, with paranoid talk about 'the elite' and worrying about the technical qualities of gold rather than its numismatic value, and with no understanding of the fundamentals of the international debt situation. I will not be engaging in any further discussions with you Alex. |
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Quiz: Why hasn't the increase of 1 trillion USD per year not caused hyperinflation, as prominent gold-figures promised that it would?
Quiz: When has any nation been able to survive a debt-to-GDP ratio as large as those of the US and the UK? Quiz 2: What will people turn to when this all goes tits-up? |
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just a dumb question but what about the private gold ( non-government ) groups ? how they affects the price ?
I am curious because I saw that advertise (sorry) btw, I have not connection at all with this particular website but they say "BullionVault . com is part-owned by the World Gold Council and is the world's largest online investment gold service. We take care of $2 billion for more than 50,000 users "
That's all 'paper' gold - just numbers in a database. If major economies start to collapse, do you think anybody with their names and money with bullionvault.com are going to receive any real gold? |
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- How many $ would Germany expect for 600 tonnes of gold? Hundreds of billions. But they want the gold because they fundamentally believe those dollars are actually worthless.
One of the "unintended" consequences of gold price manipulation is that you can buy the entire annual mining supply with "just" 100bn USD. 600 tons are like just 24bn USD, or 17 billion euro. I assure you if Germans have tens of billions to lend to Greece, they can also buy gold (if they wanted to). But they aren't. The reason why western countries are not buying gold and they are not creating friction between them for things like "oh I want my gold back" is because they are loosely controlled by the same centers of power. All the western world is, in fact, "one country" as far as the Elite are concerned. That's why you see coordinated central bank operations and gold moves, to cover "problems" as they arise. Who buys gold? Those who are yet to be "globalized" - ie fall under the same unified center of power that controls western nations. Who has 600 tonnes to sell? And you bet your ass it would cost more than the simple spot price per gramme * 600 tonnes. You've also failed to address any of my other points. |
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If Germany really wanted to hold physical gold, what would stop them from buying tons of gold out from the open market, just like the asians and middle-easterns do? Are they somehow barred from doing that? No. With paper price being low, all they'd have to do is order and then ...stand for delivery. Not a thousand tons, but gradually building their position a few hundred tons at a time, instead of waiting for US delivery.
The whole story of German gold is like totally overseeing the fact that americans are not the only source where Germany can find physical gold. They can stockpile metal if they want and then say to the americans, ok since you are having problems with delivering the gold, we'll accept a cash settlement (at the elevated prices due to the physical squeezing it).
So if you owe me a car but refuse to give me it, I should just go out and buy another one? No. He is saying they should settle in cash instead of gold and go out with that cash to buy gold on the open market. Which is one of the stupidest suggestions I've ever heard. Dr Bloggood makes a set of very good points as to why. - How many $ would Germany expect for 600 tonnes of gold? Hundreds of billions. But they want the gold because they fundamentally believe those dollars are actually worthless. - How would those $ be delivered? Would they just be conjured out of thin air as more fiat? Shuffle a few numbers around a spreadsheet which can suddenly be wiped out with various financier tricks. - How much less would it be worth once delivered because of inflation? Tens of millions per DAY. - Where would they then find 600 tonnes of gold for sale for cash? - What is the guarantee that this new gold could and would actually be delivered? Just stupid. The US owes Germany 600 tonnes of gold, and is probably going to GOX the whole deal. |
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If Germany really wanted to hold physical gold, what would stop them from buying tons of gold out from the open market, just like the asians and middle-easterns do? Are they somehow barred from doing that? No. With paper price being low, all they'd have to do is order and then ...stand for delivery. Not a thousand tons, but gradually building their position a few hundred tons at a time, instead of waiting for US delivery.
The whole story of German gold is like totally overseeing the fact that americans are not the only source where Germany can find physical gold. They can stockpile metal if they want and then say to the americans, ok since you are having problems with delivering the gold, we'll accept a cash settlement (at the elevated prices due to the physical squeezing it).
So if you owe me a car but refuse to give me it, I should just go out and buy another one? Get a clue: The US is holding Germany's gold. Germany is not buying it from them, they're asking for it back. |
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^^
The thing about leaping...
Good one  But really, somebody has to do it. And NeoBee have all their ducks in a row, in the perfect economic location for such a risky project. So why not... |
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https://leancy.com is a much better ponzi / pyramid, and is already working for 2 months with 500+(!) new users every day. Thanks, I've just reported them to the German financial authorities. |
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So if I buy some shares in NeoBee from havelock now will I get more dividends than if I buy the shares after the 23rd of Feb?
The shares price could be different, but the dividends received would be the same. No, that's not what cryptocyprus has said. All outstanding, dividend-paying shared will be removed on the 23rd and replaced at a later time with another round of shares with their own dividend policy. |
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Danny, when are you going to go live with the proper website?
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We're going to see 1 of 2 outcomes:
1. Everyone quits except for massive mining outfits, leaving the system more centralised and less democratic.
2. Everyone quits including massive mining outfits, difficulty falls and more people start mining, making the system more democratic.
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