For the spreadsheet:
The bounty manager handed over the final spreadsheet to us. Now, some members of our team will re-audit the spreadsheet. So, you may see some changes on the final version of the spreadsheet that we will release.
How the hell this is going to help and work? What can they check, if the campaign is already ended, hunters has taken off signature, some social media accounts are banned or users deleted their records? Who are these "some members" ? Do they have experience of bounty management? I don't think this option is "more loyal" for bounty hunters. Distribution is still postponed and will be made in parts. There are chances that some hunters will receive 0 reward (luckily others will receive their share). I've skipped participating in bounties years ago and I see nothing changed. Bounty hunters are still treated like crap... I thought the new announcement will give a solution but it just made things worse. Re-auditing the spreadsheet looks like bad news for everyone. I thought it would just be the waiting that will be a problem to the bounty hunters lol This team is the worst, I'm almost sure now they are going to exclude users and take the tokens for themselves. Yes, you are absolutely right, now there will be many exceptions for stupid reasons, lizhby pay less... The fact that they did not even make a reserve of tokens for the Bounty company, already says a lot, just ahead of the company key tango, something tells me that there will be exactly the same situation as with poolz, those who like to investigate, can do it... |
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For the spreadsheet:
The bounty manager handed over the final spreadsheet to us. Now, some members of our team will re-audit the spreadsheet. So, you may see some changes on the final version of the spreadsheet that we will release.
How the hell this is going to help and work? What can they check, if the campaign is already ended, hunters has taken off signature, some social media accounts are banned or users deleted their records? Who are these "some members" ? Do they have experience of bounty management? I don't think this option is "more loyal" for bounty hunters. Distribution is still postponed and will be made in parts. There are chances that some hunters will receive 0 reward (luckily others will receive their share). I've skipped participating in bounties years ago and I see nothing changed. Bounty hunters are still treated like crap... So I can't understand why they should re-audit the table if the manager did it ... Do not be surprised if many expel, even without explanation, and those tokens which they were to receive, keep, and not spread to the rest of the participants, thus reducing the pool of the company, I personally have configured due to the fact that I started this thread, and those who were outraged about the first method of payment, but to keep quiet and swallow it all not collected, many projects were given tokens for a huge sum, without worrying about the price of the token and has earned its positive reputation, the graph, keep, UNI they think many kompaniyami should take an example |
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 Common sense prevails! Of course this is not what we expected. However, this is a solution. Such a decision will look loyal to both the company and us. Yes, this is a loyal decision, the main thing is that now the team does not exclude people from the final spreadsheets without a reason |
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There is a new announcement, more loyal, one thing is confusing that the team decided to double-check the spreadsheets, now there is a chance that many will be excluded without any explanation
"Hi everyone,
As you probably know, over the last few days, our team has been speaking personally with a number of the group members, the bounty hunters, to hear your voice and your thought to define together with you a new token distribution that will be shorter than the existing one.
As the problem is that the token distribution is not set at the beginning of the bounty mission, we work harder now to provide you a deal that will be fair and, on the other hand, keeps your interest, that the token price will not exact.
As we appreciate your fantastic job since the beginning, we saw you the same as the first investor who believed the company since the early days. Therefore we find a solution that establishes this structure.
So, we are giving the priority of early investors to the bounty hunters. They will get their token as the same model as those early investors will get.
Our new deal:
We will give 10% of the tokens each month. I will be starting after the next lockup period. (2 weeks from today). The 100% amount will be cleared in the next 10month from that day. This is the best deal we can give because you guys are getting the priority of early investors. And we think it’s a win-win deal for everyone.
For the spreadsheet:
The bounty manager handed over the final spreadsheet to us. Now, some members of our team will re-audit the spreadsheet. So, you may see some changes on the final version of the spreadsheet that we will release. It will be released in the next 2weeks, before the lockup period.
We thank all of you and the bounty manager for helping us on promoting our project.
Guy Oren
Poolz CEO"
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Spare the BM, its not his fault that the team decides to do this. But six months for 20% only and another six months for 20% until 100% is distributed? The bounty hunters could just give up and not claimed it if it took that long. I look at the price https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/poolz-finance and it looks like they do have a valid reason. Thats a huge amount considering they are to distribute 25,000 POOLZ. I'm confused POOLZ or POZ? The bounty thread is indicated its ticker is POZ, maybe they can give the POZ right now but not the POOLZ. In your opinion, the price of the token is an indicator to pay 2.5 years? A little strange situation turns out, we have to promote them, try to attract investors to buy a token, and when the token really gains popularity, we do not immediately get what we earned, it turns out that we are to blame for this? We, too, have made an effort in their current popularity and value, and we now suffer for it You make it sound like the team isn't going to pay, you will be paid but you just have to wait. The project seems to be a good one, they released an announcement to pay in time. You can just take it like you hold the tokens for 6 months. It feels like you are cheated but just how it is. I recently joined the channel which I read there that the team will announce another term, maybe a change of dates. They said that when the campaign was going on, the tokens weren't yet created. Now, the tokens has to be unlocked first before they can distribute. I'm sure how true the information is given there in the telegram but one thing is sure, waiting is your option. Yes, I understand that we have to wait, and I wrote already that we are waiting for new news, just depending on how long to wait, you would like to receive for your work once every half a year as much as a month will not even be enough, from some side it can be counted as a fraud |
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the fact that the Manager in this estuarie can not do anything, this I understand, but it can directly branch to write what will probably be the payment split or after a while, what the payments will be 2 weeks after TGE? is this also the team's fault ?
Bounty manager is probably just using the info he got from the team, he is probably not making distribution plans by himself. What you as a bounty hunter should do is not join bounty campaign of a manager that you think is doing a bad job. In reality, majority of bounty hunters will forget about all the issues immediately when they see a new bounty campaign by a same manager. it is understandable that they want to protect the token value, bounty hunters usually sell tokens immediately and ruin his price, but waiting for 2.5 years for bounty rewards it is unacceptable.
If that's how they perceived bounty hunters solely as token dumpers, then they shouldn't even have bounty campaign, or eventually set realistic bounty pool. According to current POOLZ price, bounty pool is worth more than 300,000 USD (25,000 POOLZ) so of course they decided to screw bounty hunters knowing that they won't face any repercussions because of it. What will happen in half a year, year? Nothing will happen, they will withdraw the money, and the project will go to the bottom.
By the time they are supposed to finish distributing bounty tokens, Poolz a a project won't probably even exist anymore. My suggestion is to relax and wait. Think of it from the bright side - if you would sell everything now, but POOLZ token price continued to grow, you would feel even worse than "be deceived".
That's exactly the reason why bounty hunter get screwed over and over again. They are ready to join just about any bounty campaign that appears, waiting for months or even years to get tokens, and in the end getting peanuts after team is done with the dumping.
They say that definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results", and that pretty much sums up bounty campaigns. How many times bounty hunters have to get screwed to learn the lesson? it's just surprising, small companies that collect little and do not have such success, spend on commissions of 5 000 USD, but pay hunters, and here a large company with good trading volumes, and do not want to pay, if the project is worthy, and I consider poolz worthy, then many hunters will not immediately sell, and secondly the price will recover. And the manager simply does not need to believe the team in the future if they really say that payments will be made in 2 weeks, you still need to clarify this point, that payments may be delayed ... In general, the bounty manager does its job well, there are some shortcomings, but I think it will fix them in the future My suggestion is to relax and wait. Think of it from the bright side - if you would sell everything now, but POOLZ token price continued to grow, you would feel even worse than "be deceived".
this is wrong. I agree that this is wrong, but what bounty hunters could do except just wait, ignore the project or ignore new bounties from BM (which will be very hard to do or it will be useless, as there are always hunters who wish to join). I remember back in 2018 few bounty cases, where hunters made a complainant topic on bitcointalk and spread information about not receiving rewards. All of them ended with no positive results. Two cases stuck in my memory actually. In first, team promised to distribute rewards in one month and return bounty pool to original amount. After one has passed, nothing happened, new accusation topic was made, but had no result. Second case - hunters managed to contact project CEO and major investors and told that they are scammed - in result investors pushed on the team and force them to skip bounty reward distribution, because "this would impact on price and they would lose money"... about investors was a good idea, it would be good for investors to unite with the hunters to support them, perhaps this topic will be read by investors and will be able to also contribute to the support of hunters.(but this is only a dream already ) at the present time, many people only think about their profits) |
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You write that it is not your first year in the bounty, but you still continue to wonder at the deceptions that exist there. The question arises: "How did you want?" Do you have any examples when such projects were seriously punished? As far as I know, participation in bounty companies is an agreement that at any moment you can be deceived, not paid, and so on.
OP, why have you stayed true to this occupation for so many years? Does it make you good money?
In any case, I am very sorry for you.
Yes, this is not the first company that throws us, it's just much more offensive when it's done by really working companies, not scammers... And I created a topic so that people know what actions this company is capable of... There was an announcement from the CEO, wrote what they think about the revision of the payment schedule, let's see what they decide |
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In your opinion, the price of the token is an indicator to pay 2.5 years? A little strange situation turns out, we have to promote them, try to attract investors to buy a token, and when the token really gains popularity, we do not immediately get what we earned, it turns out that we are to blame for this? We, too, have made an effort in their current popularity and value, and we now suffer for it
OP, do you ever talked with bounty manager about this problem? I see on his profile page, he says " Need professional bounty manager? Hit me" but this does not seem to me to be professional campaign management. he had to use some escrow and hold the tokens intended to bounty participants. You need to point them to this thread. it is understandable that they want to protect the token value, bounty hunters usually sell tokens immediately and ruin his price, but waiting for 2.5 years for bounty rewards it is unacceptable. I certainly apologize, but this is not her first bounty company, and not the first such case, and not the first day on the forum if you look at the rank, and I have to teach how to run a company ? I also noticed that there are problems with content verification, I offered my services in the help for content verification, as I have experience in this field, but I also ignored it, did not respond at all, and at the same time there are still people in the team.... I doubt that they do not know about such things, but they still write that the payments are immediately through ... time Depositing tokens can't be done, because when running the bounty of the company, the token has not yet been minted, the release token was after the bounty company, and already knowing that was conducted by bounty, the company has not reserved tokens for this, ie it was already pre-planned to outwit the hunters |
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I'm not the first day in bounty, and saw the division of the distribution, But this distribution I see for the first time, and still brazenly declaring that we generally reserve the token was not there, and 1 time in half a year to just 20 %, not knowing what will happen with the token even after a month
Yep, I agree, waiting for two and a half years to get get all of your bounty tokens is ridiculously long and it should have been mentioned right from the beginning of the bounty campaign but they are perfectly aware of the fact that many probably wouldn't even bother to join. But that's a life of a bounty hunter hunter I guess.. BM says that he tried to solve the problem, but at the same time she would like postponing the final table as they could, nonetheless, closed the bounty group, the fact that she tried to solve the problem, I believe only after it will throw off a screenshot of the correspondence where he tried to do it, as this is not the first company which acted last her company did like follows https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285048.0To be honest, I don't think that bounty managers can do much in these situation since they don't have bounty tokens or any escrowed funds. They have no way to leverage the project to pay bounty hunters. What you as bounty hunter can do is to avoid managers where this kind of thing happens more often than not and that's about it. the fact that the Manager in this estuarie can not do anything, this I understand, but it can directly branch to write what will probably be the payment split or after a while, what the payments will be 2 weeks after TGE? is this also the team's fault ? these statements already mislead hunters, in the hope that it will how to write a Manager, I have met companies that once wrote in the thread that payments will be paid in 18 months, and still people were involved, but knowing about the payments and, without anyone who did not suit, they soon missed the topic by |
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Spare the BM, its not his fault that the team decides to do this. But six months for 20% only and another six months for 20% until 100% is distributed? The bounty hunters could just give up and not claimed it if it took that long. I look at the price https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/poolz-finance and it looks like they do have a valid reason. Thats a huge amount considering they are to distribute 25,000 POOLZ. I'm confused POOLZ or POZ? The bounty thread is indicated its ticker is POZ, maybe they can give the POZ right now but not the POOLZ. In your opinion, the price of the token is an indicator to pay 2.5 years? A little strange situation turns out, we have to promote them, try to attract investors to buy a token, and when the token really gains popularity, we do not immediately get what we earned, it turns out that we are to blame for this? We, too, have made an effort in their current popularity and value, and we now suffer for it |
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Now we must show our persistence. Many of my friends have participated in this project. They are very angry. The team deceived them. The manager deceived them. How do we deal with this?
It's time to create an app from the hunters called Red Trust. If they deceive people, then they will throw investors too.
dakdao reputation? They chose an investment project that threw people away.
BM says that he tried to solve the problem, but at the same time she would like postponing the final table as they could, nonetheless, closed the bounty group, the fact that she tried to solve the problem, I believe only after it will throw off a screenshot of the correspondence where he tried to do it, as this is not the first company which acted last her company did like follows https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285048.0 |
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Pretty much standard practice, as seen so many times before: - Start bounty campaign with inflated bounty pool in order to attract as many bounty hunters as possible
- Set the exact distribution date so bounty hunters have something to look forward to
- When you see that your token is performing well, screw the bounty hunters any way you can-delay the distribution, lower the bounty pool, be more strict etc. The only limit is your imagination
- Once token is worthless, start bounty distribution.
I am sorry that you guys got screwed, but until bounty hunters start joining only bounty campaigns that have escrowed bounty pool, this will keep happening. Problem is, chances of that happening are slim to none. I'm not the first day in bounty, and saw the division of the distribution, But this distribution I see for the first time, and still brazenly declaring that we generally reserve the token was not there, and 1 time in half a year to just 20 %, not knowing what will happen with the token even after a month |
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it is especially disappointing that at the beginning of the company, the tokens were not minted yet, the issue of tokens was after the bounty of the company, the company made a reserve for sales, and the bounty company was not, so they immediately planned to deceive the hunters!
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Hello everyone. On October 7, the bounty company POOLZ was launched and in the branch itself from the very beginning it was written that payments will be made in 2 weeks after TGE, so the moment of the end of the bounty has come. Not only that Final spreadsheets was ready after 2 months, but also that the team changed the terms of payment, and as we can see in the screenshot below, the oin from the very beginning did not reserve tokens for the bounty company, and for this they stretch payments for 2.5 years at 20%, it turns out that they had tokens for sales, and as they have to pay hunters, so again some problems, I think this is a rude and cruel deception towards hunters, at the peak of their popularity, they do not want to pay as expected, what they themselves promised, all questions in the telegram group are deleted, and users are blocked ! I believe that it equals a full stepet to scams ! and I hope that maybe there will be people who can influence the team ! Bounty link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280470.0BM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1110071  |
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Do I understand correctly, you are conducting an ICO, and you are also trying to collect donations through topic airdrop? and yet having about 20% of the plagiarism of the white paper ? Correct me if I'm wrong...
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU BEWARE OF THIS PROJECT BEWARE OF THIS PROJECT ?? Really ?? invest in banana coin or Tomato coin is better for you .
Second the Airdrop its a giving away free 100 ALH coin for every register , whats wrong here ? you never hear about Airdrops Before ? Third : 20% of the plagiarism of the white paper ? you talk about the References ?? we already mentions that here :   sources - https://www.affiliatefix.com/threads/mobile-billing-the-most-popular-offers-flow-explained.15617/ https://www.mobidea.com/academy/mobile-billing-offers-flow/and this can be observed on almost all white paper ! You now, so to speak, boldly and rudely responded, hinting that you have a great product and token, so why couldn't you write your own white paper ? why is it collected in parts from different sources ? This project is having some problems. Many people are saying that this project is a scam project. Do you think it is a scam? I shared my observations of them, so that people know and save their money, so that those who decided to invest in them, made a deep analysis before that, it is quite possible that the project is a scam, I do not claim, but I assume |
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Do I understand correctly, you are conducting an ICO, and you are also trying to collect donations through topic airdrop? and yet having about 20% of the plagiarism of the white paper ? Correct me if I'm wrong...
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU BEWARE OF THIS PROJECT BEWARE OF THIS PROJECT ?? Really ?? invest in banana coin or Tomato coin is better for you .
Second the Airdrop its a giving away free 100 ALH coin for every register , whats wrong here ? you never hear about Airdrops Before ? Third : 20% of the plagiarism of the white paper ? you talk about the References ?? we already mentions that here : sources - https://www.affiliatefix.com/threads/mobile-billing-the-most-popular-offers-flow-explained.15617/ https://www.mobidea.com/academy/mobile-billing-offers-flow/and this can be observed on almost all white paper ! You now, so to speak, boldly and rudely responded, hinting that you have a great product and token, so why couldn't you write your own white paper ? why is it collected in parts from different sources ? This is the only thing you complain about ? We respect and appreciate your opinion as we say in other topic even we don't get a cent from the ICO we will continue developing our Apps , the beta version will be ready in few weeks  No one denies that it is a unique idea, we sometimes seek the help of a freelancers to complete some of the tasks as what we did for the White-paper. If for you the plagiarism of white paper is a trifle, then I have nothing more to talk about with you, white paper is a document of the company, as well as the face of the company, so I think !
I hope this topic will see DT1 and make decisions, it's nonsense or not
This project is under developing we spent nearly four months creating the Whitepaper. We have about 15 drafts. We always recommend that freelancer who oversee and designed the whitepaper not copy the contents from other sites. Didn't you like the rest of the 80% whitepaper? Plagiarism is a crime. In this forum for plagiarism, the user is banned. Because the Whitepaper is an external document, so it is not the content of this forum, you will not get a ban. But in max few hours will be created thread in the Scam accussation section and you will get a negative trust. Your scam has just ended. As we Said we did't know about this issue we hired a Freelancer on Upwork to take care on whitepaper , because according to his information on the site he has experience on crypto whitepaper writing . The project is not a scam we have a proof of concept and we still working on it even you ban us , we have another project here > tunisiabtc.com and it is the first and the only Crypto Exchanger in Tunisia . you can check the trustpilot review > https://www.trustpilot.com/review/tunisiabtc.comand we already remove this paragraph from the white-paper we apologize for this issue. It's not just this one paragraph, I threw it off as an example to you, if you really ordered a white paper through a freelancer, then check it yourself and you will understand that some parts are plagiarism, some are simple rewriting |
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This is the only thing you complain about ? We respect and appreciate your opinion as we say in other topic even we don't get a cent from the ICO we will continue developing our Apps , the beta version will be ready in few weeks No one denies that it is a unique idea, we sometimes seek the help of a freelancers to complete some of the tasks as what we did for the White-paper. If for you the plagiarism of white paper is a trifle, then I have nothing more to talk about with you, white paper is a document of the company, as well as the face of the company, so I think ! I hope this topic will see DT1 and make decisions, it's nonsense or not |
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Do I understand correctly, you are conducting an ICO, and you are also trying to collect donations through topic airdrop? and yet having about 20% of the plagiarism of the white paper ? Correct me if I'm wrong...
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU BEWARE OF THIS PROJECT BEWARE OF THIS PROJECT ?? Really ?? invest in banana coin or Tomato coin is better for you .
Second the Airdrop its a giving away free 100 ALH coin for every register , whats wrong here ? you never hear about Airdrops Before ? Third : 20% of the plagiarism of the white paper ? you talk about the References ?? we already mentions that here : sources - https://www.affiliatefix.com/threads/mobile-billing-the-most-popular-offers-flow-explained.15617/ https://www.mobidea.com/academy/mobile-billing-offers-flow/and this can be observed on almost all white paper ! You now, so to speak, boldly and rudely responded, hinting that you have a great product and token, so why couldn't you write your own white paper ? why is it collected in parts from different sources ? |
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