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101  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 16, 2014, 12:57:09 PM
Uptown says hes going to pay me today, so Im still waiting for my payment

Hoping to see you get paid since you were confirmed. The people who weren't confirmed, he did say that you needed to be confirmed I get paid. If he ignored me I would have taken the sig off after a few days. I'm not saying updown handled everything well but if you weren't confirmed I can't blame him for not paying. In fact he even paid 1 person who was not confirmed which was nice but maybe opened a can of worms!

What you talking about I am on the list and was confirmed way before this happen I had received payments from him before.

Umair127 was been approved, but our staff member who collected info just forgot to include him on the list. He is absolutely eligible to get the payment.
102  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 16, 2014, 12:56:04 PM
Uptown says hes going to pay me today, so Im still waiting for my payment

Hoping to see you get paid since you were confirmed. The people who weren't confirmed, he did say that you needed to be confirmed I get paid. If he ignored me I would have taken the sig off after a few days. I'm not saying updown handled everything well but if you weren't confirmed I can't blame him for not paying. In fact he even paid 1 person who was not confirmed which was nice but maybe opened a can of worms!

What you talking about I am on the list and was confirmed way before this happen I had received payments from him before.

i think he is refering to me as i am not get confirmed by updown and got paid
this just because my case is different he ask me to quote my application post  and then when i replied to his comment he ignored me which is not a good for me hoping that he didnt saw my post i posted it again and quote my another question to him but not confirming my application is really dissapointing

I've answered forever21 in PM and going to approve him, but forgot. That's why I paid him.

103  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 16, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
I have a dispute with updown.bt, I made a couple of posts from may 27 to june 4 . He never confirmed that i was using his signature, i asked him a couple of times for confirmation but he never replied and yet he used to come online.

Links:

starting post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg6976073#msg6976073

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7030219#msg7030219

As you can see i was one of the users waiting for confirmation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg6982808#msg6982808

Resignation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7123641#msg7123641

I don't know if he will actually ever pay me for those posts but its ok , i just hope he gets to pay everyone else.

my thoughts about this signature campaign:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656074.msg7859734#msg7859734

Never confirmed is the keywords here.

Did you inform him that his application is declined?

Only confirmed members can be paid, that's written in campaign rules.
104  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 16, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
I have a dispute with updown.bt, I made a couple of posts from may 27 to june 4 . He never confirmed that i was using his signature, i asked him a couple of times for confirmation but he never replied and yet he used to come online.

Links:

starting post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg6976073#msg6976073

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7030219#msg7030219

As you can see i was one of the users waiting for confirmation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg6982808#msg6982808

Resignation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7123641#msg7123641

I don't know if he will actually ever pay me for those posts but its ok , i just hope he gets to pay everyone else.

my thoughts about this signature campaign:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656074.msg7859734#msg7859734

Never confirmed is the keywords here.
105  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 15, 2014, 10:06:57 PM
So how is this a scam? I've been playing on here with like 0.05 or less now for the longest time for fun, and nothing has ever happened to me :\

You should wait for at least one confirmation until doublespends are possible in the network.
106  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 15, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
Service got a bunch of double spent attacks, so a lot of transactions was stuck during this time, and I was mostly away last month because of illness. Now everything works fine, except one thing — payouts are not instant anymore.

No offence but to me sounds like your running a bitcoin business being non solvent just like mtgox,  Plus I seeen many scam accusations about not paying forum advertisers.  Its very petty for you invest 25000 usd, then to let everything fall due to an illness which you never elaboratley explained to any of the members.

From what I read in the sig campaign thread, a lot of people are still waiting for their payment for last month...

Everybody got paid with a week or so delay — not so big delay to name someone a scammer. We've meet a lot of scammers on the forum, and it makes me laugh a bit when someone who sells his signature for money names us scammers after week delay.


That seems like a bit of an insult to your own clients.
I have yet to receive my "seized" funds back. Can you please provide a response to this as I have waited for a rather long time.
You cannot expect people to not grow impatient with the delays that have been caused by your company.

Agree with initski.  Updown why are you minimizing the fact that you were so late?  No, now I wouldn't call you a scammer but your attitude is to screw everyone else, even in this post I'm quoting.  There's nothing unethical about selling a signature, but your actions were unethical where you were indefinitely holding us all hostage with no idea whether you'd payout or not.  Even if you had come and said "sorry guys, I'm really ill, I'm gathering coins to pay, etc." it would have been ok.  Instead you promised 2 different dates on which you would pay and totally ignored those dates and didn't even pop on to say what was going on.

You need more faith. We're not a scammers, we're making business. And finally everybody (who had enough faith and hope) got paid.
107  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 10:03:25 PM
I'm not sure what exactly happened to this signature campaign.  It seemed to run pretty well before.  OP, if health problems are what is stopping you from continuing this signature campaign, I suggest you ask someone else to help you run it.  IDK about howzar, I'm not sure why so many people trusted him.
I agree. He wasn't that well known or trusted on the forum, so I don't get why people were using him as their signature operator, but well, that is my humble opinion.

He apparently got banned for PM spamming.  I have a feeling he PMed every bitcoin related project he knew about (ok, I may be exaggerating a bit) and offered them his signature campaign services... and some people agreed.
Updown.bt, some people aren't like howzar.  That user had alt accounts, was ban evading, and did not use escrow for the signature campaigns. 

You can select someone like bitcoininformation to run the campaign, then get a trusted escrow to help hold onto some of the funds.  There are many people who have escrowed over 6 figures' worth of transactions.  Can you trust them a bit more? Tongue

Now that these signature campaigns are all ending around us, I'm not sure what'll happen to PD's signature campaign.

I've had good experiences with both bitcoininformation and monbux before so I'd trust them to run it.

Also, although many sig campaigns are fading away, it seems like there are plenty stepping in to fill the void.  I think the question is how many will hang around long enough to put some upward price pressure on PD's rates.  Many don't survive too long.

To be honest — those campaigns are not so profitable.
108  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
I did not get my .33 btc from last month still, I sent you message

My Btc Address is on my profile please show my tx ID that you made payment there?

There was an error. You will be paid soon.
109  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
If anybody have not been paid or have any questions, please right it right there or in to the personal messages, we don't want to be a scammers and owe money someone, but I understand that some errors can be made during the campaign processing.

posting once agian as ignored for 10th time

I originally signed up to this campaign over 3 weeks ago now. I originally joined on the 29th May 2014 to be paid 1 week later on the 5Th June.

Outstanding payment
Hero members status Pay per post = 0.0016BTC Total outstanding for 72 posts BTC0.1152 to be paid to
BTC address 1Safe7924PSq2JQTCd9HHZsfjY6a4TVZk that is also in original post of signing up.

I have tried to contact UpDown.BT many times regarding payment. On the 5th he was making selective payments on his campaign and adding only selective people.  For the posts that where veiled their where over 72 posts. I posted on the day UpDown.BT posted after totally off topic and not even related to missing payments or to be confirmed. But instead confirmed a few people much later on posting and signing up and added a few more from people who where behind me. I asked again where payment was and again got ignored and many other people have been ignored too.

I had given till midnight Monday 16th June 2014 to post details and updates of what is going on with regards to being added to the campaign and to be paid. Again I was ignored and no payment made.

Yet you still havent paid me and making claims you have paid everyone this is total BS


Joined on 29th May. Did not get verified. Continued to post throughout the week based on weekly payments. Pay day 5th June No payment. Application still not even submitted after 3 week. Extra time of 24 hours given for payment to be sent. No payment received.

Sent 4 Private messages asking to be confirmed within the week I had posted and confirmed details that where asked of.. No response to any of them since submitting application. Also gave details again on topic and no response.

Outstanding payment
Hero members status Pay per post = 0.0016BTC Total outstanding for 72 posts BTC0.1152 to be paid to
BTC address 1Safe7924PSq2JQTCd9HHZsfjY6a4TVZk that is also in original post of signing up.

https://blockchain.info/address/1Safe7924PSq2JQTCd9HHZsfjY6a4TVZk You can see no payment of outstanding amount has been paid yet. So payment is still outstanding.

I have also submitted 4 bug reports on games and I am outstanding of 0.1BTC or more that was played details forwarded of bugs on game and was advised will be passed on this is almost 2 weeks ago and no updates or anything if going to be refunded or compensated. I am posting again below and am guessing things are coming towards the end of the week now no response to me and several other people now this is clearly giving indications as to no payment or is not going to continue. Please update UpDown.BT as you have myself and many others to pay outstanding payments on.

I gave 1 full week excluding Weekends because you say you don't work weekends. However I also gave an extinction as optional time to fix problems Starting Monday the 9th June 2014 till midnight Sunday 15th June 2015  for outstanding payment to be sent in full to me for advertising in my signature section for your services.

Link to post detailing missing and none payments.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7186848#msg7186848

Proof of signature in sig space



And I had continued to use your services and you where away now you say you have made all payments yet am still owed for your signature campaign


You was not been approved. I had some reasons to be selective. But fine
TX ID: 748693f246ea76c4e726ee730a466774c26f4e8ca0f455947a8877a3fdc60426

Guys, if you was not been approved it means that I can owe you only 0 BTCs. Doesn't matter how much posts you've made. I'm not against that someone will advertise us for free. Only approved members can be paid.
110  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 09:49:27 PM
That was the plan, but "trusted" person was disappeared with our BTCs. So now there are no trusted persons for us except moderators.
I am still willing to takeover the campaign if you guys ever want to continue. I made this offer a long time ago and it's still valid.

We now want to create affiliate campaign with 50% of revenue sharing and 100% automated payouts, but it will take some time to make it up and running.
111  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 09:47:34 PM
Quote
there is a lot of trusted escrow here escrow ms squall1066 maidak or bitcoininformation and moonbux
Everyone gets my name wrong.  Cry

I'm not sure what exactly happened to this signature campaign.  It seemed to run pretty well before.  OP, if health problems are what is stopping you from continuing this signature campaign, I suggest you ask someone else to help you run it.  IDK about howzar, I'm not sure why so many people trusted him.

sorry bro i thought it was a moon  Grin  Cheesy
howzar has a red mark righr before he work on updown.bt so updown must be aware to that yet he still choose howzar for i dunno maybe a dumb reason to trust a guy with a red mark on his account evilpanda run a campaign smoothly but i still dont know why of all the people he choose howzar  Huh

He got the red mark day after he received money from us (bad coincidence, two words we're repeating quite often with this project). Before that he was a manager of two successfully running campaigns.
112  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 09:45:41 PM
Damn what a bunch of fraudsters glad I saw this before going to gamble my bitcoins at there site, very unprofessional.

We made all payouts with a bit delay, but everybody finally got paid and payouts was not bad.

NOT REALLY !!! A lot of people are unpaid as of yet.

Who?
113  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 03:29:40 PM
if the rumor about the updown connection about goax then dont hope to get paid he still owes me 0.08btc and even i ask some of the member here to point out the scam accusation regarding to his website he still ignored it he didnt even bothered about his site reputation maybe just because he have a lot of money to make a new site and registered it again to the bitcoin foundation to make him a gold member again
sure he paid some people but he is getting too unfair

Please describe the situation, and if we owe you smth, we will send it right now

yes you owe me 0.08 from last may to june payment i can give you the link to my complain

EDIT i think this can explain everything

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642893.msg7177255#msg7177255

Everything is fair, I didn't confirmed your account. But fine, I will trust that your made a posts with signature and will just pay this money. Can you post your wallet ID, so we will be able to finish this?

yes you didnt confirmed my application but you ask for my application post and then ignored me right i after i post it which is really not a good attitude  Undecided

16fUvxLj6B2mXuEaMjrQBpg598AJxdFVxU

That's why I decided to pay even to non-confirmed user. Any other non-confirmed will not be paid.

Your TX ID: 6ec969d17f78232d61f5a895cb45a308763089a43d677d61a7b8bdd78ec11c42

everything is resolve now so i lock the thread and remove my negative feedback and replace it with a positive one
thanks for clearing this up and i suggest that its better to find a trusted person to handle your campaign the next time you decide to comeback again

That was the plan, but "trusted" person was disappeared with our BTCs. So now there are no trusted persons for us except moderators.
114  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
if the rumor about the updown connection about goax then dont hope to get paid he still owes me 0.08btc and even i ask some of the member here to point out the scam accusation regarding to his website he still ignored it he didnt even bothered about his site reputation maybe just because he have a lot of money to make a new site and registered it again to the bitcoin foundation to make him a gold member again
sure he paid some people but he is getting too unfair

Please describe the situation, and if we owe you smth, we will send it right now

yes you owe me 0.08 from last may to june payment i can give you the link to my complain

EDIT i think this can explain everything

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642893.msg7177255#msg7177255

Everything is fair, I didn't confirmed your account. But fine, I will trust that your made a posts with signature and will just pay this money. Can you post your wallet ID, so we will be able to finish this?

yes you didnt confirmed my application but you ask for my application post and then ignored me right i after i post it which is really not a good attitude  Undecided

16fUvxLj6B2mXuEaMjrQBpg598AJxdFVxU

That's why I decided to pay even to non-confirmed user. Any other non-confirmed will not be paid.

Your TX ID: 6ec969d17f78232d61f5a895cb45a308763089a43d677d61a7b8bdd78ec11c42
115  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: a disputes to UPDOWN.BT on: July 15, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
how much bitcoins should you of recieved for postng ?

my starting post is 87 i joined PD yesterday with starting post of 207
so until my 206th post im still wearing his signature i also posted it to his thread before i join to PD
so it should be 119*0.00075= 0.08925 its not big though but its all about the trust that i put into his campaign and my 2 weeks of waiting

Ok, just send me your wallet id and I will send you the money.

16fUvxLj6B2mXuEaMjrQBpg598AJxdFVxU

TX ID: 6ec969d17f78232d61f5a895cb45a308763089a43d677d61a7b8bdd78ec11c42
116  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: a disputes to UPDOWN.BT on: July 15, 2014, 03:09:08 PM
how much bitcoins should you of recieved for postng ?

my starting post is 87 i joined PD yesterday with starting post of 207
so until my 206th post im still wearing his signature i also posted it to his thread before i join to PD
so it should be 119*0.00075= 0.08925 its not big though but its all about the trust that i put into his campaign and my 2 weeks of waiting

Ok, just send me your wallet id and I will send you the money.
117  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: a disputes to UPDOWN.BT on: July 15, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
i didn't get payment too although i joined at may 26th
not professional signature campaign Angry
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7157442#msg7157442
http://i60.tinypic.com/2iabi9i.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ipy6v.jpg

leave him negative feedback too



Joined, but not confirmed. No reason for negative feedback at all.
118  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: a disputes to UPDOWN.BT on: July 15, 2014, 03:07:25 PM
I also never got confirmed.  I signed up in the thread and sent a PM the same day.

48 hours later no word from OP, I removed the ad from my sig space because I don't allow advertising for free in my signature.

My complaint isn't as bad as many others but I also found this service to be questionably run and I advise people to stay away from it.

We said before that we want to limit campaign participators number to 60 and most of the slots was been taken. (so we're stopped to approve anyone who wants to participate).
119  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 03:04:07 PM
if the rumor about the updown connection about goax then dont hope to get paid he still owes me 0.08btc and even i ask some of the member here to point out the scam accusation regarding to his website he still ignored it he didnt even bothered about his site reputation maybe just because he have a lot of money to make a new site and registered it again to the bitcoin foundation to make him a gold member again
sure he paid some people but he is getting too unfair

Please describe the situation, and if we owe you smth, we will send it right now

yes you owe me 0.08 from last may to june payment i can give you the link to my complain

EDIT i think this can explain everything

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642893.msg7177255#msg7177255

Everything is fair, I didn't confirmed your account. But fine, I will trust that your made a posts with signature and will just pay this money. Can you post your wallet ID, so we will be able to finish this?
120  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 15, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
If anybody have not been paid or have any questions, please right it right there or in to the personal messages, we don't want to be a scammers and owe money someone, but I understand that some errors can be made during the campaign processing.
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