Now I guess people realize why we require sellers to write "Tangible Cryptography LLC" on their MoneyPak receipts and email a scan/photo to us before we complete the sale. No it wasn't us being parnaoid. We lost some potential sales by requiring this but it isn't a requirement we intend to drop. There pretty much is only one dispute possible when it comes to MoneyPaks and that is to claim "I never used this code and when I tried it said the funds had been used". MP code is only 14 numeric digits so it is possible to brute force. Generally funds only remain on the "pak" for a short time so the window is small and the risk of a true brute force is small but it can be claimed by a scammer. Kinda hard to say you never used "your" MoneyPak when it has our company name on the receipt and was redeemed by us.  To the OP: Most likely you won't lose all the funds. They will just be frozen for some extended time (my guess is 30 to 90 days) and then disbursed to you by company check (similar to a PayPal freeze). They do this so that if you brute forced all those codes it gives time for the "legit" owners to come forward. They specifically said if I don't provide proof of all MoneyPak reloads, that I'm out of luck.  |
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Oh well, it is still cool to have a web bitcoin client, for people to practice on, or whatever, any suggestions?
Great for the lols.  |
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Create the receipts and back-date them. Then you can provide them as requested. It will be much cheaper than a lawyer. $1k is too much to let go.
I'm not sure what your saying here? They want EVERY receipt and even if I was able to get a hold of every single person I've traded with, I highly doubt any of them decided to keep the receipt, and I would need ALL of them to have the receipt. |
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Time to lawyer up or contact a consumer rights service.
Agreed. If you brought it to a court they would probably just decide to give you the benefit of the doubt. It's not like its one of their larger accounts that they should worry about. How would I go about doing this? Would I actually need a lawyer? I have around $1000 stuck on the card so wouldn't it be pointless with the money I'd have to spend? I've never been in a situation where I needed to take anyone to court and I always figured it would never be worth it.. But man I really want to do it for the principal of that matter too.. This is just bullshit. |
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This is continued from this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88968.0This is my service thread, My BTC for your MoneyPak - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84924.0I just got off the phone from a rep and they concluded that even though I have done dozens upon dozens of transfers without complaints, that because of ONE SINGLE person disputing a $100 reload that apparently I'm the fraudster and need to provide every single receipt for all MoneyPak reload transactions in the past month and if I cannot, the remaining balance will remain locked without any appeal. What?!!?!? They basically just said "yeah your money is ours now sucker". What kind of bullshit is this? I'm so raged right now.  |
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Be careful who you trade with, I have done lots of 1/1 trades and today my card I use to reload MoneyPaks to has been locked down due to someone filing a dispute against a $100 reload.. Didn't even think that was possible with MoneyPak.
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Which country are you located in?
Sierra
US |
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I do lots of BTC to MoneyPak transfers here thinking it would be a cheap and safe way to recieve funds for my BTC. Apparently you can still open disputes.. My card is locked down now due to someone opening a dispute of a $100 trade I did. After they provided me the MoneyPak number I did some back tracking and found it came from this user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59224Just waiting a reply from him now.. But man I had no idea people could even file disputes against MoneyPak. Sigh. |
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bought 2mil more gold waiting for him to come on.
Sorry for delay, was out playing poker. Ty. |
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How much to go from 51 to 60?
8 BTC |
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bought another mil lol
went smooth as always great guy iv now bought 3 mil from him.
Ty. Online now and in stock! |
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I do a lot of selling BTC for MoneyPak that can be used to reload prepaid cards and other places online such as PayPal.
Today I noticed several times my WM card was getting declined, so I called in and they unlocked the hold for my money, but they stated my account with them will be closed next month and that if I load any more money they will freeze my funds again.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
They stated the reason was for "suspicious moneypak reloads"..
Why advertise a product for payment of services if your going to lock an account after around $2k or so in transactions?
Holy shit. Bring a lawsuit on them? Edit: What are their terms and agreement? As anyones TOS they always give themself the right to terminate you without much of an explanation. Basically lesson is don't load lots of MoneyPaks..  Even though they do have a monthly limit of $3500, I didn't even exceed that limit. Well, then, that sucks. Would you be able to find another service that provides your excellent service? Hate to see your great service leave or be abandoned. Yeah MoneyPak is from GreenDot and Walmart Money Card is from GreenDot, but it seems there are many many other pre paid debit cards and even regular credit cards that accept MoneyPak reloads. PayPal accepts them, but PayPal can be terrible about freezing your funds for no apparent reason as well. |
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I do a lot of selling BTC for MoneyPak that can be used to reload prepaid cards and other places online such as PayPal.
Today I noticed several times my WM card was getting declined, so I called in and they unlocked the hold for my money, but they stated my account with them will be closed next month and that if I load any more money they will freeze my funds again.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
They stated the reason was for "suspicious moneypak reloads"..
Why advertise a product for payment of services if your going to lock an account after around $2k or so in transactions?
Holy shit. Bring a lawsuit on them? Edit: What are their terms and agreement? As anyones TOS they always give themself the right to terminate you without much of an explanation. Basically lesson is don't load lots of MoneyPaks.. Even though they do have a monthly limit of $3500, I didn't even exceed that limit. |
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I do a lot of selling BTC for MoneyPak that can be used to reload prepaid cards and other places online such as PayPal.
Today I noticed several times my WM card was getting declined, so I called in and they unlocked the hold for my money, but they stated my account with them will be closed next month and that if I load any more money they will freeze my funds again.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
They stated the reason was for "suspicious moneypak reloads"..
Why advertise a product for payment of services if your going to lock an account after around $2k or so in transactions?
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Snazzy new title   |
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bought another mil from him fast and easy.
Ty. |
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Ooh, looks like you decided on a slogan. Nice service! I might have to get in on this. No, I haven't changed the slogan yet. Thank you. |
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I want to buy 15.56 BTC.
Smooth trade, ty. |
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