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101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Any word on why Bitcoin has dropped 30% in the last 3 or 4 days??? on: July 03, 2013, 11:16:47 PM
Any word on why Bitcoin has dropped 30% in the last 3 or 4 days???

#1 - Gox put money payback on hold for 2 weeks, that was 2 weeks ago because of 'too high volume of payback', and can't cope with banks.  People are fearing that it's more than just because the volume was too high.
#2 - Because of #1, prices going down, more panic, more people sell, price go down further.
#3 - With #2, that make a lot more likely that people will want to cash out.  If problem #1 is real (rumor has that Gox has not enough liquidity), then #1 can only get worse.

And, if Gox have no liquidity, then it will be exactly like it happened with the U.S. banks a few year ago.  Bankrupt!
102  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 03, 2013, 09:59:35 PM
Yes, I saw! Roll Eyes

Cheap coins coming our way!

On the bad side, I'm about to turn off my mining rig.  It's getting really hot outside here this week.  The rig just make in unbearable in my room Grin
103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 03, 2013, 02:35:08 PM
The last few weeks have a name...  Bull trap!
104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 03, 2013, 02:02:29 PM
Remember this post?

I just went for a pee and my assets grew by $xxx

He probably went for a dump this time!  Grin
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 03, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
Large dump in progress...  Shocked
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why people holding their coins when the price is going down for sure... on: July 03, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
And people are selling their coins because it's going down!

Only stupid panic sellers.

Yup, but they are the one driving the price down...

A lot of people are losing hope that Bitcoin will rise soon.  A lot are cashing their profit before turning in the red.  And a lot are thinking exactly like this thread's title.  They are not pessimist, just realist.  Nothing it holding Bitcoin apart from speculation.  Until there's important good news that there will be a real economy for Bitcoins, then it's still pretty "virtual" for most people.

The storm has to pass, and market has to calm down.  Prices will rise eventually, but it will be another day.
107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why people holding their coins when the price is going down for sure... on: July 03, 2013, 01:38:52 PM
That's a good indication/prediction

Posted in another thread...  Thanks to the original poster

108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why people holding their coins when the price is going down for sure... on: July 03, 2013, 01:36:23 PM
Do you think if people will start selling coins, price will go up?

lol

Price is going nowhere but down Smiley

It's going down because peoples are selling their coins.

And people are selling their coins because it's going down!
109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 03, 2013, 01:35:23 PM
85!
110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Looks more and more like a 2011 repeat on: July 03, 2013, 11:07:44 AM
Quick update on proceedings. When will the trend be broken? The price seems unaffected by what is happening in the world instead just gradually deflates. The profit takers certainly are hard at work and make good use of it.


Very nice correlation Smiley  So we'll bottom at 30~40...
111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 01, 2013, 11:50:07 PM
GG, campBx now at $0.00

Someone dumped 2k coins there all the way to 0. Poor guy probably thought there was more depth.

Haha! What a move!

Bears hurry, now is time of the ultimate spin. BITCOIN IS WORTH $0!


I'll take 1$ worth!
112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 01, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
Going through $86 like a hot knife through butter.

Despair and capitulation are unavoidable. The sooner they arrive, the sooner BTC will resume a growth trend.

+1 on that!  I too think that a really good crash will happen.  After that, well, we may see a bullish behavior, but more prudent and slow.
113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Never think that it "can't go lower than this"... on: July 01, 2013, 07:11:57 PM
It can't go lower than $0 Roll Eyes

Well, let's assume Bitcoin dies completely, then the government can always come back after you to tax the profit you made, and now owe money...  so technically, the value could go lower than 0$ Grin
114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 01, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
People are getting to understand what "deflationary currency" truly means right now. Cheesy

Yeah, the USD deflating right now Cheesy

The only thing deflating right now is the Bitcoin bubble Grin
115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Never think that it "can't go lower than this"... on: July 01, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
Actually, I did sell at 200$+  However I did sell and bought back a few times along the way, so I could have made a lot more Undecided  Ah, and I spent 65BTC at the time for my BFL SC I'm still waiting Roll Eyes  I consider myself lucky to have learned about Bitcoins when it was 8$ back in August last year (and invested at 13$ bubble (and held while BTC was floating at around 10$ for a while after that)).

Still made 10K$ profit, and even though I could have made a lot more, I feel happy with what I have got.  I still continue mining, but this has just come less and less profitable lately Sad  And I don't hold Bitcoins for long, prefer to exchange for fiat regularly and cash out when I sum up to a good amount.  That last strategy hasn't been bad in the last few weeks considering that it went 130$, 120$, 110$, 100$ and now sub-90$ Embarrassed

So, the point is, more and more people are starting to switch strategy, and forget hoarding altogether, and goes for dumping.  Who's still holding beside people who bought at 100$+?

I feel bad for Cyprus people who invested in BTC at 120$+
116  Economy / Speculation / Never think that it "can't go lower than this"... on: July 01, 2013, 06:33:44 PM
Well, they say you learn by your mistakes...  I can tell you to never think that a stock (or Bitcoin in this case) can't go lower.  It can ALWAYS go lower.  Down to 50$, down to 10$, down to 1˘, end even lower.  I actually lost a few $ in stocks in the early 2000 in the telecom industry (well, that was mostly 'playing' money at the time for me but still, 2 grands gone up for used-to-be-50$-stocks that I thoughts would have bottomed at 1$, and 50˘, and 10˘, etc. ending up in bankruptcy).  Just think of the Nortel case for example...

So, if you go and buy because prices has lowered in the last few days, do it because you have a really good insight that there is reason for it to go up over long therm other than speculation.

That's the problem now, it's that Bitcoin is still held only be speculation, and it has no real backing economy yet other than some random companies here and there venturing in Bitcoins other than "another form of payment" added to their portfolio.  And, as opposed to gold, silver, and other tangible things that you can put aside (physically), for most of the people hearing about Bitcoins, it's still really too much "virtual" to be taken seriously (talking about newcomers hearing about Bitcoins for the first time).
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 01, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Dump it...  to Mt. Crumpit Gox

118  Economy / Speculation / Re: SELL SELL SELL!!!! on: July 01, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
Just noticed you resurrected a 2 year old thread!  And it still hold true!

At least, the OP got a reply to his post, finally...  Grin
119  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Status of GPU mining? Is there any still mining Bitcoins? on: July 01, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
Well, with the difficulty going up and prices going down, even with an FPGA setup I'm thinking of shutting it soon.  I make 3.54GH/s, taking 700W~900W.  In Quebec, electricity is cheap.  Around 7.5˘ per KW/h.  That sump up to around 40~50$ electricity per month, and I'm making around 200$ profit per months.  I remember the days where I had less hashing power and was making 500$+ per months.

Ok, still, it's 200$ (after electricity bill) per months, but it only seem that it will get worse (price tanking, diff rising, ...).  And with the summer heat coming (yeah, still 'coming'...  Shitty weather Undecided), it's becoming a furnace in my room.

So, that's my situation.  Multiply that by a fair amount and you get the status of GPU miners.  So that's only fair to ask if anyone is still GPU mining? Roll Eyes

Tough times...  Cry
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt.Gox Co. Ltd approved to be a licensed MSB by FinCEN on: June 29, 2013, 02:29:18 AM
Someone can just set up a secret dark exchange on tor if being anonymous is so important.

Well, that's the problem...  However anonymous you want to be, there will always be a point along the chain where you want to trade to or from fiat.  And unless you meet from person to person to trade some fiat for BTC, or want to trade some higher amount, then there will always be the government keeping an eye on the fiat.

The only way to stay truly anonymous is to not involve fiat at all...  And, BTC without a fiat price tag attached to it is worthless (in fiat term...).
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