 These asset swaps being neglected for 2 years is a fact personally i didnt care about coinomat or any other projects just waves if u think sasha is scammer he will be in amsterdam after 3 days plz tell the polis to arrest him What you think is irrelevant as you admit you know nothing about the history of Coinomat and Sasha, and anything you say is based on ignorance. The solution is for Sasha to convert the Coinomat and other assets into something of value within the waves ecosystem, plus some compensation for the long delay, so the investors from 2014 can finally get access to their money. Involving the police is a ridiculous suggestion. I don't think Sasha is a scammer, but neglecting this issue is only going to harm his reputation, everyone can see he is busy, but everyone can also see these Coinomat investors are getting treated very badly so far. |
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why there alot of fuds on waves in this time what do u think ??
People want to see the promises come true in time and the details not mystery. Coinomat asset investors being denied their promised swap for over 2 years is a fact! there is no relaion between waves core team and any other projects Do some research, Sasha was the founder of Coinomat and personally issued a number of assets on the NXT asset exchange, and these assets were always promised swaps to waves, and that has not happened. It does not matter how often you say there is no connection between waves and Coinomat, the history is well known, and saying otherwise is fake news. Sasha has still promised to address this issue, but so far he hasn't, so even he acknowledges the connection of coinomat to waves. |
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why there alot of fuds on waves in this time what do u think ??
People want to see the promises come true in time and the details not mystery. Coinomat asset investors being denied their promised swap for over 2 years is a fact! |
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Do some research, if you have invested in waves it's worth your time to know the full history. Ask yourself this, if what I say is untrue I.e Sasha is the founder of Coinomat, how long until the waves community support guy turns up to refute this? I bet you all the money you have that he won't, because it is a known fact that Sasha is the founder of Coinomat, and the fact that you don't know this tells me you need to do more researh into the foundations of your investments, you are investing in projects and people without knowing all the facts and history. I will respect your brain when you deserve it, you are ignorant of the history of waves, so respect my brain and don't reply again until you do some homework into the history of Coinomat, Sasha and waves. Edit, I did 30 seconds of Google search, here is some evidence https://www.crunchbase.com/person/sasha-ivanov
A physicist by education, Sasha Ivanov has been involved in Internet payment systems software development and neural network prediction software for financial markets.
After the emergence of blockchain technology he launched the first instant cryptocurrency exchange coinomat.com, the first fiat blockchain token coinoUSD, and the first tradable cryptocurrency index coinoindex.com
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why u think Sasha or any one in waves team is ceo of nxt or coinomat  !! and why the investors didnt put sasha in jail until now they waited for 2 years to making fud posts in waves topic plz respect our brains and what about all lied words such sasha take the money for him self !!! and no successful ico in waves platform alot of shit words why i have to believe liers Sasha was/Is the founder of Coinomat, the post above from NXT forum as username Coinomat is Sasha, this is common knowledge, and people have been raising this issue for months now, even years. |
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Please add bittrex to your complaint, they froze accounts without warning and changed terms of service requiring kyc for withdrawals without any grace period for existing customers.
poloniex and bittrex are both rogue exchanges now, and both should have their actions tested in court.
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These asset swaps being neglected for 2 years is a fact |
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ooh im going to sell my waves coin  after 2 years of hard work from the best team in crypto world u told us they are scamers r u stubid what about waves-ng smartcontracts and ....... if sasha take the money for him self who is devolping waves platform waves registered company its bigger than ur stupid fud they have best blockchain now and they are russian people face the truth You do not defend Coinomat project being abandoned, there is no fud about that, just cold hard facts |
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Thanks guys!
So if I understand correctly, with that price (25KMD per DEX coin) the annual return would be about 0.001% at today's prices and volume. (Coinmarketcap has BarterDEX at $2600 volume last 24h)
BarterDEX would have to surpass around $12 million per day in volume before the return for holding a DEX coin would surpass the 5% return for KMD.
($12M) x (.15% x 50%) / (1M token supply) x (365 days) / ($62.5 price of DEX coin) = 5.26%
We've got a long way to go, but there is plenty of volume on the table. Over $15 billion has been traded during last 24h according to coinmarketcap. IDEX had over $11 million in volume.
The KMD 5% is inflation whereas the DEX payouts are earnings or revenue, and that is a huge difference. Don't get me wrong, the KMD inflation serves a great function during these bootstrapping years, but DEX assets pass the Warren Buffett investment test , invest in great business' that pay dividends but for some reason are hugely undervalued. Buffet doesn't understand crypto, but his dislike is based on the same reason he doesn't like gold; no earnings, no dividends. DEX is probably the best asset in the cryptosphere, real income paid as dividends from a great service charging fair and reasonable fees, no inflation or smoke and mirrors tricks, it really does pass the Buffet test! I agree and I'm interested in owning some. I just feel like today's price should be more like 5KMD instead of 25KMD. Then, of course if KMD gets more recognition, it will gain in value. Scarce Supply with extremely long term holders ( think 3+ years ) and the revenue stream just started to turn on. That's why its 25 KMD and there isn't much for sale, I can only see it going up in price. Oh and regarding CMC BarterDEX volumes, not all trades pairs are listed and its only capturing netid0 non-private trades. The DEX investors are some of the longest hodlers in the cryptosphere, literally sitting on these assets for +3 years so the available supply to purchase is miniscule, and the discounted net present value of the future dividend streams from BarterDEX over the coming years will be absolutely huge. DEX assets could easily earn millions of $$ of revenue shares each over their lifetime, even if barterDEX captures just 1% of trade volume, but crypto is doing volumes in the trillions. Combine hodl whales with the revenue and dividend potential, and +25 KMD is still a great price. Imagine buying an asic that mined bitcoin forever with no electricity or other costs, and never became obsolete, just sat there generating an income stream for as long as crypto was being traded, that's what you get owning DEX. |
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Thanks guys!
So if I understand correctly, with that price (25KMD per DEX coin) the annual return would be about 0.001% at today's prices and volume. (Coinmarketcap has BarterDEX at $2600 volume last 24h)
BarterDEX would have to surpass around $12 million per day in volume before the return for holding a DEX coin would surpass the 5% return for KMD.
($12M) x (.15% x 50%) / (1M token supply) x (365 days) / ($62.5 price of DEX coin) = 5.26%
We've got a long way to go, but there is plenty of volume on the table. Over $15 billion has been traded during last 24h according to coinmarketcap. IDEX had over $11 million in volume.
The KMD 5% is inflation whereas the DEX payouts are earnings or revenue, and that is a huge difference. Don't get me wrong, the KMD inflation serves a great function during these bootstrapping years, but DEX assets pass the Warren Buffett investment test , invest in great business' that pay dividends but for some reason are hugely undervalued. Buffet doesn't understand crypto, but his dislike is based on the same reason he doesn't like gold; no earnings, no dividends. DEX is probably the best asset in the cryptosphere, real income paid as dividends from a great service charging fair and reasonable fees, no inflation or smoke and mirrors tricks, it really does pass the Buffet test! |
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The only thing that can make waves mainstream is if it goes up. Bitcoin and ETH are famous for going up for long periods of time. COME ONE WAVES GO UP AND DONT STOP TILL YOU HIT 200$
You are wrong. The problem is Sasha Ivanov a.k.a. Alexander Ivanov. He failed with Coinomat, left investors (just learned about this recently, don't have the full story). When Coinomat failed he started Waves and collected millions... and founded a lot of ICO's on the 'Waves Platform'. Like Putin he is a scumbag. Why? Let me tell you why. The problem with Waves is that he wants all that money for himself so he hired some mediocare devs and keep the funds to himself. But then realized he wanted more. So he crowned himself ICO King (Google it  and told Russian ppl they could be rich if they ran an ICO. - Encryptotel - Primalbase - And many more... Facts: - Sacha is not Vitalik, Vitalik brought innovation, ALL of Sacha's projects, Coinomat, Waves, Encryptotel, Primalbase etc. etc. failed - No ICO on Waves has succeeded, all ICO's were launched by thieves and probably Russian criminals like the guys behind Encryptotel. They have your money, why would they care about you now? Show a couple of printscreens and be silent like they have done the last couple of years. What can you expect? Waves is not your average project. It is highly influenced by politics (money), did you know Waves 'spent' 10k BTC on this site: https://waveswallet.io/Yes that is a lot of money, the next ETH? Guys like Vitalik are scarce, they usually come once in a decade. But don't sell because of this post. If you read this you know now why it all makes sense, why Waves was never pumped. Russian criminals taking money. You know why Alexander Ivanov has not 1 succesfull project on this track record. He failed all and after giving 10.000 BTC to Putin & Co. Let's face it. Everytime the community becomes verbal he launches a new bogus coin; wct, mrt, liquid. Where are those coins now? What's their worth? Exactly, they are bogus coins. Alexander Ivanov is the Russian Josh Garza! Sad to say but this post is correct, Sasha is nothing like Vitalik, he has abandoned Coinomat and NXT era investors since he created WAVES, and despite the millions he has in ICO bitcoin nothing major has been delivered that could be described as cutting edge tech. I hope I am overly negative, and would love to be proved wrong, but the history of Coinomat is very concerning, and until that is resolved who can trust Sasha? |
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That list doesn't include monero or komodo ... not a ģood sign, the author isn't well read on crypto. |
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I agree that CK is caught in a chicken egg situation now, if only we could find common agreement on how to resolve the depo mess and debts issue then maybe we could find a way to break the impass. That split the community, and ever since momentum and inspiration totally dried up, especially after Speed disappeared.
This, OR change the name and start a new thread and forget all about the depo mess in the NEW game/thread  A new game should not be burdened with old shit. The problem is people who are down on their original CK investment won't easily invest in a new version that's basically the same concept as CK, so without an airdrop and resolution of depo debts there's no community left. The people who made money from CK are long gone and likely never coming back, only the losers are left, plus a few hard core gamers. |
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Wow, this coin is still limping along ... I am surprised! Is there a web wallet or bootstrap? |
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Very active thread for coin with no exchange you need get coin listed
A very astute observation, for a coin that is very hard to trade there does seem to be quite a few rusted on supporters here! Great update @crowetic |
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Hello everyone! It's time for update: We're in final testing phase of a Swap platform and there will be no delay - we will meet the deadline of June 1st. We will have a countdown timer for a swap start on our website soniqproject.comWe will also track progress of the amount of FUNK swapped during the two months period - the progress bar will also be desplayed. funkpool.global is fully functional. Still 25ish% of FUNK network is on old chain, probably solo miners. We have our marketing strategy covered and will start Soniq promotion asap. Still we could use some help from the community, so, please make sure you join us on Discord - Tomzee and the rest of the crew will meet and greet you there. Have a nice weekend everyone! Great news, is there a FUNK lite wallet, or a bootstrap, haven't synced for a while now! |
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Great list, thanks for posting bro, some truly historic moments! |
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Is anyone organising legal action over all the frozen accounts and stolen funds? Seems a case that would easily be won!
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Still can't believe I was lucky enough to find this coin on Twitter just before the free air drop. Biting my fingernails off waiting for this one pager to release tomorrow~!
Yes, you were lucky to get the airdrop, don't wait too long to sell, meme coins have a very short shelf life. |
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where u find sasha name in this topic? i ask u again to respect our brains and anser my q and if you have real evidence against sasha let us know i dont have more time for shit 
