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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] NWC - Networkcoin on: December 28, 2013, 08:16:52 PM
The wallet-qt looks nice, plus it has transaction messages so I guess this coin wasn't too lazy plus I do like low reward coins.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which alts are 100% proof-of-stake? on: December 20, 2013, 03:41:39 AM
None
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who else is holding on to DOGE long term? on: December 20, 2013, 03:13:39 AM
I Doge is my main pick now, I will hold onto it till the bitter end.
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Preview] Smelter - GPU miner for Quark-based coins on: December 20, 2013, 02:48:15 AM
Those my friend, are called orphans, they suck just like Quark.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / NXT Stolen on: December 20, 2013, 02:46:18 AM
I talked about this originally in the NXT forum they were pretty sympathetic
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stole ALL of my nxt, that fucking son of a bitch. I hadn't been paying attention to my account cause I was waiting for nxt's client to stop getting updates multiple times daily so I didn't notice earlier but god fucking damn it. I know there is nothing I can do about this but I am so fucking pissed about this.
I even had a pretty sure password that was 17 characters long which according to https://howsecureismypassword.net should have taken 6 million years to crack, though I had my account cracked within 6 days of me making it, I think there are some MASSIVE password sweeps going on in the NXT network. I made a suggestion in the other thread
why not just have a 2 part password, you must enter a first password and a second password that way even if you bruteforce the first password you must bruteforce the second password at the same time as if only one is right the system does nothing different than if both were wrong thus making account hacking at least a bit harder because even if you put your first password as your second password they would have to figure out your first password then test it against the second password and that wouldn't be enough to confirm either unless they somehow learned it from you or some other method. Either way having my account hacked when https://howsecureismypassword.net said it would take 6 million years to crack... essentially has gotten me out of the NXT game as I was really planning for this to be my sleeper investment that would be able to do great things but given the situation at hand I guess anyone relatively secure account can be hacked, I bet someone could simply get a lot of cloud computing servers from linode or digital ocean and set to work for a pretty cheap amount, I mean even hitting 1 account per day could probably pay for itself given how cheap cloud computing is now. Either way I lost 0.35 btc (or at least that is what I invested at the time)
Just wanted to let everyone know that this happened to me and I thought I was pretty secure but apparently not.
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 15 doge posts on the front page! on: December 19, 2013, 05:31:32 AM
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107  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY [KNC Neptune-DayONE] [.55 Per share 31/32 Shares Available] on: December 19, 2013, 03:51:35 AM
Thanks for this.  I would like to try it for different pools out there to see which earns the best.  And maybe even do it for some big share holders so that the payout goes directly to their wallet.  Saves time to calculate.  This is exciting.

Thanks for the idea.

That would be a bit of work to try to get these KNC Miners to accomplish that
It's a standard 'feature' of cgminer - you just put in all the pools, press C, take option 3, save the config so it's automated ...
[C]hange management strategy
0: Failover
1: Round Robin
2: Rotate
3: Load Balance
4: Balance

Or for 'fine-tuning' if people have more than 1 share on the same box, you just set the Quota to 100*N where N is their number of shares:
0: Enabled Alive Quota 100 Prio 0: (pool0)
1: Enabled Alive Quota 200 Prio 1: (pool1)
2: Enabled Alive Quota 100 Prio 2: (pool2)
3: Enabled Alive Quota 400 Prio 3: (pool3)
if it was 4 people, 8 shares as an example

Or you can do some very interesting stuff - I've setup a Jupiter to mine 12 different alt-coins for 2 hours each in rotation...

The only thing to remember is *NOT* to use the featureless web front-end, but manage it over SSH ...

Well first off I should mention you would want to use balance if you were to do this, load balance only tries to balance the pools based on how fast they respond and not absolute values, furthermore it isn't exact tbh it really is just sort of a waste of time. So I strongly suggest you DO NOT DO THIS. Just mine at eligius and send out payments every week, it really isn't that bad I mean I can't imagine you having more than 30 shareholders. Eligius just requires a bitcoin address for the username and you are set, no registration needed, the only thing you have to do to get the merged namecoins is verify your account by signing a message and then you can change the address link + the min payout amount and add a namecoin payout address. I mean if you want to save on transaction fees just use a coinbase account and then all your transactions fees are payed automatically and it is free to sign up.
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo) on: December 17, 2013, 04:49:35 AM
This only works if you submitted it before your opponents claimed to have invented it.
Just give it up, datacoin is dead as disco, incase you missed it

Actually that's not true. "Claiming" does not provide any rights to intellectual property. Someone would have to prove that they invented it first.  That is why people who write movies and tv shows send printed copies to themselves in the mail and leave them unopened.  That's tangible proof.  I am not sure if Datacoin would offer the same proof, but by having 100s, if not thousands, of people stating that the items was entered into the blockchain at a particular time is pretty convincing.

What I was saying is that if they claim to have evidence they invented it on December 12th and the blockchain says you submitted it December 15th it isn't very helpful, only helpful if you put it up on the blockchain like on December 10th, furthermore the process to verify your ownership of the data is a bit odd legally.
Again look at perfect dark and share, it works like this.

Are you involved with the perfect dark project? It almost feels like your promoting.
No, I just know a useful program when I see one and I use perfect dark on occasion to get hard to find disc iso's and bdmv's
I really just want some people to try it and come back here and then talk about what datacoin should be doing because as it stands nobody but me seems to know much of anything regarding anonymous data services

Eitherway I sold all the coins that I mined, I am officially out of datacoin for good unless something major happens to this drowning fish.
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo) on: December 16, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
I think the Datacoin blockchain may provide an opportunity for tangible 'proof of discovery'. For instance, one places an encrypted copy of intellectual property in the Datacoin chain directly after discovery (well before patent application). Then, you link to the block(s) in your patent application and provide the password for the encrypted data only if the patent application is disputed by another claimant.

Counterpoints?
This only works if you submitted it before your opponents claimed to have invented it.
Just give it up, datacoin is dead as disco, incase you missed it
I think that datacoin needs to take a look at more successful anonymous p2p data services like perfect dark and share and take a second look at encryption, here is why. Lets say for the sake of argument no matter what data host you use there will be illegal content on it somewhere, snuff videos, cp, you name it. Regardless of this fact most services and networks can exist due to either of 1 of 3 reasons. The first is that someone can moderate and remove things, hence with datacoin we can't have that lest we invite other problems. The second is that not everyone knows what data they are downloading, allowing for plausible deniability as to the fact that someone may or may not possess illegal material and would not know if they did unless they were specifically looking for it. Furthermore the data is spread out, by that I mean the data is distributed to allow for redundancy and retrieval when needed and you might have parts of what you wanted without even knowing it. The third is that the data is hosted by person x and can be shared with person y via a torrent or magnet link or some other decentralized fashion. As it stands I doubt many of you know of perfect dark or share or else you would of first been demanding encryption and compression on all data which is why NO serious POOL will ever pick this coin up because it could be illegal based on country x's laws due to data y's contents. If someone wanted to be clever and develop a torrent hybrid of the client qt with bittorrent integration then we could move data around in encrypted chunks and reward people based on how much data they hold (you could set a max GB in the client) and how much they seed, much like in perfect dark and share where the more you host and seed the quicker you get your downloads and the higher priority you would be in queues, except for datacoin this could be done via proof of stake on data and transactions in order to secure that you are a reliable node. Encryption should be the first concern as unencrypted data is a cardinal sin, that and combined with mandatory user downloads of all data essentially explains why datacoin hasn't been able to overtake Primecoin when in theory this should be the most useful coin around. Either way you need to pick a plan, torrent hosting, dispersed data chunks, encrypted data archiving service, all in all you just need to have a plan because as it stands nobody is going to want to know that one day they will be forced to download CP and they can do nothing about it other than sell their coins and say fuck this.
Please note I REALLY want datacoin to succeed, I have a couple of them myself but I don't want it to be from hype and pumping, I want it to be from this coin proving that cryptocurrencies aren't for dipshits and retards looking for a quick buck.

Got you point. Thank you for great analysis! I saw this idea several times past  last days, so I think that it really will help Datacoin. But please understand us: there is still much work around (at least pools and improved wallet, plus 'big file' functionality). As soon as we finish with it, it will be possible to implement something like you say. Datacoin will grow, it is attending developers, so many of community's wishes will be implemented. As I see, this 'issue' is #1 (except pools and wallets)
Thanks for the responce but that isn't very specific regarding the details, thats more of a press release type statement that companies give out when they have nothing better to say and can't afford to ignore one of the few people actually paying attention.
edited: but anyway - remember: it's possible to add illegal content even in Bitcoin blockchain.
Yes it is, but then again bitcoin wasn't founded on the idea of hosting data in the blockchain nor did it name itself after this idea. Hence I would hope that oh IDK something called Datacoin would have a better idea about how to handle data hosting than to simply say "well shit man, I guess the blockchain is as good as it gets". You know what isn't anonymous about datacoin, the fact that everyone who uses it is equally guilty through literal guilt by association you could be tried and arrested for supporting datacoin due to the way that it has structured itself which is why no pool is going to touch this potentially amazing coin due to a complete disconnect between the developer and the software he is playing with.
All in all, if you want to store data and download things anonymously go use perfect dark (nodes) it is like datacoin but free and without a filesize cap.
Welcome to 2006 guys
Why would someone waste alot of BTC for fun?
It costs alot to host these files.
And why will someone get arrested for someone others files?
Regardless of how you procure files the legality of them is dependent on the content not the content holder or means of procurement.
Which is why holding illegal files is like holding illegal drugs, it doesn't matter if you are holding them for a friend, they are still illegal and still in your possession.
Also why did you say waste a lot of BTC?
Furthermore that's the problem, it costs so much that the normal person won't have a reason to use this and if it was cheap then the blockchain would be bloated do you get the problem here? Or am I being too vague for you?
And that's maybe the reason? Because it is low risk, maybe some feature about size will get implemented in the future to be sure.
Ok so let me be clear about this, first off the current state of the coin is absolutely useless to anyone who wants to anonymously store data for use in any reasonable fashion. As I said there are already much better WORKING alternatives that don't require stupid workarounds and procedures due to the fact that the developer actually gave a damn about the end user. Storage should be decentralized which is not the same thing as giving everyone ALL the files because nobody will be able to use this in the future if the filesize is so high. The idea of paying for data is cool but the implementation is a waste, essentially you have this as a problem. You are using a deflatory currency to run a data hosting service, which is supposed to increase in usage over time. Now in the future when mining it will be very hard to get datacoins except for if you mined them early on and thus if the system for paying for hosting is exorbitantly expensive and relatively limited then why even try, I mean what if datacoins go up to being $5 a coin? Are you gonna pay $250 to store a megabyte? No because that's stupid. Furthermore as time goes on the only people who will be able to store data will be large miners who can get their money back for free by mining the next block that they put in thus making the datastorage almost free for large pools/miners, in fact you could essentially get together as a group and just agree to always keep the mining fees for data purposes thus negating the data fee which further points out how flawed the system is. Why would I pay money to give everyone a few tiny files when I could just buy a vpn and a seedbox or use perfect dark or share or god forbid emule.
I really wish the developer would actually talk that way I could gauge just how aware of these problems he is.
From what i understand the fee is not fixed and can change without a hard fork.

Now i get your point but i believe that datacoin is not only a place to anonymously store data but also distribute it super fast to many many people. Most times even if you store something somewhere those who dont want it can by force make it not accessible but when something will be on datacoin blockchain will automatically be on thousand computers without actually needing to find it and download it.

So thats how i get it. Its more about spreading the data faster...
Again look at perfect dark and share, it works like this.
There is Bob and he is running Share<--official website
Share constantly has me downloading and uploading pieces of encrypted files to people who I connect with and pass files onto and they do the same.
If I want to download a file I can go to one of several sites where people post the keys for files or use the in client search to query by keyword, tag or filename. I query my peers and they respond with the data they know by querying their peers and so on. Once someone finds a person with the file or people with parts of the file, the files are discretely routed towards me via direct connections and through my peers. And as data is dispersed through the network almost all files can be found eventually. In fact you are required to download a certain amount of data before you can even start choosing what you want to download. The more random data you host the higher priority you are, the same goes with uploading.
Lets say Bob wants to save a file on the Share network.
Bob wants to upload a file, so he opens Share and tells it to upload it.
The program goes and encrypts the file and splits it into chunks and then starts giving it out to whatever peers I am connected to in order to start spreading it. Now if anyone queries with a file regarding the one Bob put up peers will end up either having pieces of the files or using bob as a node to spread it to whoever is asking for it.
This is the OLD way of doing decentralized anonymous sharing. The Next Gen was Perfect Dark
There is Lisa and she is running Perfect Dark<- official site, use google trans as the dev was japanese
Perfect Dark starts by making Lisa pick a username, encrypting her IP and then add a lot of nodes then she can pick how much unity storage IE how much space she wants to dedicate to hosting random files.
The more storage the higher priority just like with Share. Perfect Dark does a better job because while it is running it downloads and uploads even more data and you can even set it to delete unity data after a period of time for it to be filled with different data. You are required to essentially maintain a connection with the perfect dark network and act as a node sending and receiving and rerouting data and you are compensated with the ability to search and query other users again for filenames, tags, or by upload ID. Uploading is the same as with Share, however in Perfect Dark if you can see a file then you can download it as it means that someone has part of it where as in Share it just means that someone knows of it, and more often than not in Perfect Dark you can get a complete download as you are broadcasting your need for parts that gets pasted onto other people so you can be helped much faster and get your file downloaded in a much more timely fashion. Share can take months on rare files, Perfect Dark only takes a few days on rare files if you can get the query. There is even a continually updating message scroll that anyone can put anything on as long as it is text and everyone running perfect dark will see it eventually. Perfect Dark furthermore has the ability to host entire websites and forums and such though I have never taken advantage of this. Perfect Dark is superior mainly due to its much better networking and p2p functionality compared to Share.
All in all these are both vastly superior to datacoin, are free, will never require 500GB of storage unless you want to have that much and are smarter and easier to use as a whole and don't run a stupid scheme with fees in order to compensate for a lack of understanding. So please, fix Datacoin. Stop being an altcoin and be something interesting.
I still think you guys are looking at this from the wrong perspective and I just realized another issue. You said before that the fee for data could be changed without a hardfork, does that mean it is only a client setting that could be recompiled by anyone to have a fee of 0 and thus evade paying data fees at all? If so then I think this shows yet another problem, the whole way that the data in datacoin is implemented is childish, it is like a child putting rocks in his icecream and calling it rocky road. All it does is hurt everyone's teeth and make the kid look dumb.
Can someone please answer if the fee payed for data is merely done via client side setting and can be modified before compiling the program itself? This is kind of urgent fyi.

Why? What do you have in mind?
If the fee for data is set in the client and not in the block chain then anyone can compile a version that lets them put free data in the the chain... do you not get the meaning of this...
Some light reading for those of you that actually care about what this coin apparently stands for
110  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY [KNC Neptune-DayONE] [.55 Per share 23/32 Shares Available] on: December 16, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
Only 23 Shares left for Group buy 2.  Also if BTC prices continue to fall, the price per share will be moved up.
Maybe you should consider splitting the shares, some people don't want to have to put in the whole .55 especially with other group buys being a bit cheaper (I think I saw one for 0.4 btc for the same amount of GH though I doubt it is a first day order)
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Newbies: 50 Scamcoins for you to avoid on: December 16, 2013, 12:19:05 PM
What is wrong with United Scrypt Coin, I like merged mining  Cry
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Coinedup OpenID bug! - coins stolen on: December 16, 2013, 06:13:53 AM
Mate I am really sorry this happened, what is scarier is that a third party had access to the coins which makes me think that this could be a much more widespread issue. I never did like openid, never made much sense to me, I mean I have had my emails get hacked more often than I have had anything else get hacked, which is why I use more secure passwords now. I really wish I had written down the email of the previous guy who had his email put as the account's email address, that might have helped the situation however I didn't want to be creepy and write down some random guy's email when for all I knew I was logging into his account and not my own.
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo) on: December 16, 2013, 05:35:49 AM
Can someone please answer if the fee payed for data is merely done via client side setting and can be modified before compiling the program itself? This is kind of urgent fyi.

Why? What do you have in mind?
If the fee for data is set in the client and not in the block chain then anyone can compile a version that lets them put free data in the the chain... do you not get the meaning of this...
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo) on: December 16, 2013, 02:46:59 AM
Can someone please answer if the fee payed for data is merely done via client side setting and can be modified before compiling the program itself? This is kind of urgent fyi.
115  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY [KNC Neptune-DayONE] [.55 Per share 27/32 Shares Available] on: December 16, 2013, 01:53:17 AM
There's only 27 shares left on the Group buy 2.
Shouldn't that be 26, given that there were 30 when I got one leaving 29, then MagicMan got 2 making 27, then flexgroo got one making 26
116  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY [KNC Neptune-DayONE] [.55 Per share 30/32 Shares Available] on: December 15, 2013, 07:11:40 PM
doesnt help to say reserve or ask if any are left, someone just jumped in and bought the last two
Wrong, there are like 28 more to go for round 2 he just hasn't updated the amount remaining.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [GIVEAWAY][MOL] Million Molecule Marvel - 1,000,000 MOL Giveaway 100x10,000 on: December 15, 2013, 10:15:05 AM
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thanks
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo) on: December 15, 2013, 09:27:02 AM
I still think you guys are looking at this from the wrong perspective and I just realized another issue. You said before that the fee for data could be changed without a hardfork, does that mean it is only a client setting that could be recompiled by anyone to have a fee of 0 and thus evade paying data fees at all? If so then I think this shows yet another problem, the whole way that the data in datacoin is implemented is childish, it is like a child putting rocks in his icecream and calling it rocky road. All it does is hurt everyone's teeth and make the kid look dumb.
119  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: GROUP BUY [KNC Neptune-DayONE] [.55 Per share 30/32 Shares Available] on: December 15, 2013, 08:43:17 AM
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I sent my 0.55 in for my share, thanks for waiting.
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOL] Molecule - CPU Minable currency - Mine, Trade, Use - v0.8.9.1 on: December 15, 2013, 02:53:36 AM
Definetly relaunch, plus you need to fix the difficulty anyways so you need to hardfork just relaunch as MoleculeCoin and you might have a chance.
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