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1001  Economy / Economics / Re: They are manipulating the Bitcoin price throught ponzi-paper money scheme on: March 19, 2018, 05:24:45 AM
What are things measured against? fiat. Who has the money printers? the powers that be. Then by this basic premise, how isn't every manipulated and keep under control? they can issue futures at any rates, pump and dump at will... who cares? they print the money.

With Bitcoin, since everything is mathematically correct and open source and limited in amount, they can't win, only become bigger players by hoarding, and that is what they are doing, they are taking away people's coins and hoarding them.
First of all the money care value.  So printing money can't be totaly uncontrolled or the currency will worth nothing like it happens in Venezuela. The amount of printed money and gov expences is a pretty clear process and it is hard to secretely manipulate it.
In case with Bitcoin futures they were settled in USD (what makes them look more like a gambling) and imho they were pretty unpopular. They did not created any FUD that may bring the price down. The market reaction on JP Morgan CEO's words was way stronger, in comparison with it the news about futures trading were nothing. There is no clear evidence that futures were aimed to dump Bitcoin.
Btw I also don't think that some government is buying BTC just to take it away from people. That sounds too stupid.
1002  Economy / Economics / Re: They are manipulating the Bitcoin price throught ponzi-paper money scheme on: March 19, 2018, 02:16:29 AM
Hmm, that's interesting but the whole thing looks more like a conspiracy theory. The price is determined by many factors that are not counted. Also those types of assets are too different from each other (well, maybe not the assets but the markets are different). For example the uranium price has been growing before 2007. Untill that year the amount of registered geolocations increased dramatically together with the amount of suppliers in the market. In this case  people had too many uranium on too high price, the dump was logical.
The conditions of the market were also different in cases with gold and BTC but it doesen't seems like futures had a very significant impact.
1003  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it worth trading in such deeps? on: March 18, 2018, 11:03:05 PM
there is ALWAYS a way to make profit while trading in cryptocurrency market. from my little experience i can think of only two right now.
1. shorting the coins that are dropping.
some platforms have this option, i have never used it but it is basically making money when price is falling. if it really falls you make a big profit and if it doesn't fall and rises you lose money (to put simply).

2. trading coins that are rising.
there is always an altcoin out there that is getting pumped no matter the hell that is happening in the rest of the world! if you can find them and jump on board you can make a profit. finding them is tough though. sometimes you can find them by looking at the increase in volume and price together and out of nowhere when they are pumping them for example.



and remember these strategies may not be fore everyone. for most people it is best if they stay away and wait for things to calm down and rallies to start. making money in bull market is always easier for most.
I believe that it is possible but I can still hardly imagine those things. Selling coins if you see a further losses is probably the best type of "trading" during this time.
1. That looks more like a gambling. During this time you can see a price changes you can see 5% price changes only within one 15 min candle. The slaller moves should be unpredictable.
2. There is always like 1-3 coins from the first 100 of the CMC that hve a small growth for some reason. With less popular coins everything is pretty much the same but the risk of getting P&D is higher. Maybe it is possible to track some local hype but usually it is also a bad move. At least at this case you see your chances to pick  acoin that is rising at the dips.
1004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't buy FUD, buy Bitcoin on: March 18, 2018, 02:33:54 PM
Three drug markets were taken offline last year and the market didn't even notice. Proving that illicit use has become a minority use case.
I suggest that nothing happened because of the crypto trading. BTC rates are formed through the exchanges that were getting extremely popular while the money from siezed darkweb markets were removed from the market (at least untill those coins were auctioned).
The resilience to those kind of stuff is definetely a good thing but it is not so significant. It seems like crypto market simply changed its influencers from darkweb marketplaces to the legal side.
1005  Economy / Economics / Re: Determinants of bitcoin price movements? on: March 18, 2018, 10:53:12 AM
Do you mean a website with a price chart that highlights major events and the +/- impact they have on the market?
The details doesn't really matter. It can be a chart, a part of the chart, wahtever. You can even add some sad music like it made on http://cryptofeels.net/
The main idea is to make a website that will show the recent dump and explain it with 1 sentance (maybe with a link).
oh so what I can get from your opinion is that the price movement of bitcoin is not regulated by a particular institution but because of the behavior of the market participants themselves, means the law of supply and demmand apply here?
The supply and demand is always taking its place but every time different factors are influencing on it.
IMO if there was no news then it is more likely that someone dumped a big amount of BTC and people started to sell their coins in panic. In most cases someone or some event determine the fast changes in the behaviour of the market.
1006  Economy / Economics / Re: Determinants of bitcoin price movements? on: March 18, 2018, 05:37:32 AM
It feels like someone finaly have to make a website that will only show a BTC rates and the issues that recently had a strong impact on it because the reason of the current dropdown is not that obvious. Looks like the dip after the Google FUD was over (at least for a moment) and major crypto news websites like Cointelegraph are not alarming us about anything serious.
P.S. The idea about the website is serious. The one who make something like that will get a good amount of traffic and get some good money from ads.
1007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mailru enables bitcoin payments on: March 18, 2018, 03:24:26 AM
Without any doubts the adoption of Bitcoin is a great thing, especially if they will enable bitcoin ad payments on all their social networks. From what I know Mailru is a monopolist in ru social medias (they literally own all of the ones that were established in Russia) that are more popular than fb in that region. They are doin absolutely opposite things to what FB and twitter do. The only misunderstanding is that I always hear very contradictory information from Russia. At one time they claim that Cryptos will be banned and all BTC users will be jailed but then they are adopting it. At least it doesnt create the new waves of FUD.
1008  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Rate my portofolio on: March 18, 2018, 12:53:29 AM
Your list is quite good. Better then most of portfolios that people are showing there. Everything else is depending on your investing strategy. If you are not just blindly hodling those coins then you should probably follow all their news. It is hard to follow 16 coins (!) at the same time, the whole list could be optimized by selling some coins. It might be better if you will just increase the amount of some alts and totaly sell some others.
Also sometimes it can be a nice move to sell alts before the global dips, even BTC is safer but anyway for now it is better to save everything like you have and  sell some alts later.
1009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin HODL'er: An Idea for Making This An Extreme Online Sporting Event! Poll! on: March 17, 2018, 09:43:13 PM
I think it might not be like an extreme sports but it have all chances to become something like a cyber sport. Here it could be nice to continue the idea about the tv shows. It is possible to make streams with the "daily life of a HODLer". The emotions provided by gaming streamers are making those kind of streams so popular and HODLing is also a pretty emotionsl thing that can be broadcasted. That would be a mix of streams with emotionsl context with some lifestyle stuff which  is also pretty popular.
1010  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncontrollable cash outflow with crypto. Does it really exist? on: March 17, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
Just imho Bitcoin doesn't create any insane uncontrolled cash flows. Everything happens the same way as it goes with fiat cash. If you are buying 1 BTC in one country and selling in another one then no one gona really care about those bloody 8000$. You could just take your cash from one country to another. While if you are trying to cash out 100 BTC then you will face some questions no matter if you are using crypto or just smuggled those money. Cryptocurrencies doesn't create those "critical mass" of uncontrolled money, everything remains in its own places as it could be without crypto.
1011  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ✰ coin-board.io ✰ PWA that track prices in reatime on: March 17, 2018, 07:42:03 AM
The idea is good (especialy if someone would like to try arbitraging coins) but imho the empty N/A slots that probably show that coin is not listed on particular exchange are taking too much space in the table. That will make more problems if you would like to add some less popular coins that are mainly listed on exchanges like Kucoin etc.  Some kind of custom set of exchanges might be usefull.
P.S. You can also highlight the exchanges with lowest ang highest price for those who will try to arbitrage coins.
1012  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Advice Needed on: March 17, 2018, 06:10:25 AM
First of all you should decide what are you going to do. Some people are messing up and calling everything a trading. There is a diffenence between trading (also there aredifferent types of trading) and altcoin investing.
Concidering that you are planning to get deeper into trading I would recommend to try some forex courses to understand the basics of the technical analysis and different indicators. The other things like portfolio management etc. may come with experience but skipping the basic lessons and trying to learn the technical stuff on practice is very stupid but unfortunaly popular move.
1013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency could help your business or not? on: March 17, 2018, 05:11:55 AM
Robinhood did a right thing. Cryptocurrencies is a popular non institutionsl investment asset. As far as Robinhood app is free and have to get massive amount of users accepting cryptocurrencies was a damn right move. The good thing is that this time a company is getting value for a real achievement and not because they've just added "blockchain" to their name but this is still a small step because it didn't move out of the crypto space.
1014  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: COINDEAL.com <- made me redo my losses!! on: March 17, 2018, 04:48:51 AM
The design is quite good but the exchange is unpopular and have zero volume. I've got no idea who has been selling BTC/EUR on your website. It seems like someone just tried to pump the volume.
Lack of the information on the website about the team is also look cautious on unknown exchange. Especially when it is registered on Cyprus which is a well known offshore zone (but one of the reputable ones).
Looking back to the trading activity on the website the community vote with 55k votes (!!!) doesn't seem realistic.
https://coindeal.com/vote
Similarweb results are also not good:
https://www.similarweb.com/website/coindeal.com
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VII. ERSONAL DATA SECURITY
Your wonderfull exchange is missing a letter in one point of the privacy section.

I wouldn't recommend to upload your funds there. The exchange still looks shady.
1015  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When is the best time to invest in an ICO? on: March 17, 2018, 01:48:40 AM
Everything depends on the currend ICO, its token price and terms. Sometimes ICOs are establishing their token price  at 1$ (or other fixed fiat amount) worth of ETH at the start of the pre sale and then fix this ETH price. If it happened at the peak then it might be a good chance to purchase tokens if you catch a dip after the price fix.
Most ICOs are fixing their prices in ETH  since the very beginning so  there is not much difference in the particular time of investment because we are expecting to get the profit in crypto, not fiat. But! If the ICO you see that the ICO is coming to the end and the market is dipin then you may take a chance and wait a bit. If the coin / token will get fast listing it will get into the waves of dips which will give you a chance to buy under the ICO price.
1016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver Announces New Project, Lightning Network Cash on: March 16, 2018, 11:31:41 PM
Brief description of the article from this link: A coin that forked from Bitcoin in order to have less fees and faster tx with a big blocks is deciding to copy the upcoming bitcoin's feature to have instant transactions. Well, maybe Roger Ver will start saying that BCH LN transactions are more instant then BTC LN.
This is absolutely disgusting. People are trying to copy all features of BTC all the time while spreading the insane amounts of FUD aiming to mislead newbies and emotional traders just to get some price for their scamcoin.
1017  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: alternative that rivals the ETH on: March 16, 2018, 10:11:38 PM
Talking about the platform that will beat ERC 20 because of better speed and lower fees it pretty much the same as talking about the altcoin that will beat BTC because it will have have better speed and lower fees. Both ETH and BTC have a plenty of such "competitors". The number of BTC competitors is just countless. But for some reason all those altcoins with brand bew wonderfull features are not taking the first places on CMC. Even more, it is hard to find projects that based on their platform. There are more projects that develop their own blockchain then the ones that using NEO or NEM, all their price is fully speculative and doesn't care any value. That's the answer for the main question.
1018  Economy / Economics / Re: The stock market is a bubble now on: March 16, 2018, 04:07:28 PM
i have heared from one investment analyst that untill people say that stock market is in the bubble then this bubble is only on the half way to blow up.
About tech stocks. The most popular ones are obviously in the bubble. The ones like Facebook, Twitter, Tesla (this one is really bad) don't have profit for years (and don't pay dividends) while their stock price is growing. Sometimes the companies like Amazon are recovering after this stuff but those things can't be done by everyone. The tech bubble is obvious but it definetely won't blow up for the next decade.
1019  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Straight HODL vs Trading on: March 16, 2018, 10:14:32 AM
You've got a pretty strange  understanding of trading. If your coin leave the exchange (which is obvious if you are going to hold them for months) then you are not trading this coins. That may be called investing but not trading.
Your example might be not fully relevant because the entire market crashed. As we see the major coins in long term are usually growing in price and the chance that LTC will grow over 230 is much higher then the chance of recovery of most coins.
1020  Economy / Economics / Re: Why decentralized money system is needed on: March 15, 2018, 01:10:30 AM
So something like the dollar with such a huge power, why would it need to be under control?

Because there is such science that called Economics. It describes different aspects of the monetary policies of the government. Luckily those stupid people in the US government follow this established science. If you need to understand their logic and find an answer to your question then try to read some books.

No one including the government and especially the banks shouldn't have control over how much and how many dollars should be.
Sure. If you want to ruin the world economy asap.
Money is held by us all the citizens of the country. Hell it, all the people over the world. It is so decentralized that no person should even have more than 1% of the currency.
Comrade! It sounds like you are advicing to establish a crypto cummunism lol.
When I hold 50% of something I can kill it, I can ruin it, I can take it to the moon, I can do a lot of things.
Not only money but anything which has such a powerful influence on people should be decentralized and belong to the public equally.
Hmm. And why the US government did not deflate the USD to make it worth 100 EUR? For some reason  everything works fine.
Sorry. That's one of the funniest things on this board. I just can't take it serious. You literally describing how US can get back to the stone age.

Everything isn't that fine, trillions of debts, people can't afford most of the things and the basic things like an apartment.
A huge inflation and we saw what happened in 2008, a dollar 50 years ago was valued at much more than what it is right now and it keeps going.
Only natural money growth and produce such as Bitcoin can hold a decentralization healthy economic system forever.
Well, the worst debt is a national debt. Everything else is an obligation signed by people on their own will. Also today in most of the civilized countries loans are affordable as never before. Interest rates are close to zero, in some countries there are even negative interest rates. If someone cant pay his debt then it is definetely not the problem of monetary system.
Inflation. Ok, compare the US economy today and 50 yrs before and you will probably find some changes. In the US the inflation is pretty healthy. Also inflation helps to boost the economy of the country. You are offering to replace it with a deflation of bitcoin (that will kill the economy fast af) and call it a "healthy economic system". Well, I already said on the forst post about what kind of books you should read.
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