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1001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Now is the time to go all-in with maximum leverage on: October 08, 2014, 08:44:11 PM
I sold both kidneys yesterday and used the cash to leverage up 20x on bitcoin


What does leverage up 20x on bitcoin mean?

I understand what plain simple buying bitcoins means, but what's leverage?

edit

I looked it up in the dictionary, which said

Investing with borrowed money as a way to amplify potential gains (at the risk of greater losses)

Is that all it means, buying bitcoins with borrowed money?


Came here to ask this... what the fuck are you douche bags talking about? Just throwing in buzz words to sound smart?
1002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Now is the time to go all-in with maximum leverage on: October 08, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
OP, you should at least remind people to put a wise stop loss. Right now it's 320$ and if support at 275$
won't hold after the consolidation ends, it's going to be a landslide, and max leveraged longs will lose all.
If support at 275$ will hold and a double bottom will form, then it may be worth risking max leverage long.

this battle at $300 reminds me very much of the battle at $3. was the same sentiment, the final border etc, if it gets breached all is lost, and of course it did get breached, and went to $2.22 and many things happened after that...

but my point being - now looking back at that month it seems like we were kids playing in a sandbox. $2 $3 who the hell cares should've just bought you MORONS.

But how come "this time it's always different"? Is it because I am not destined to make a profit?
1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Crypto community slays the 30,000 BTC Whalebear on: October 08, 2014, 03:48:02 PM
Sorry I dont really 100% get it. What exactly happened? He put 30K BTC to sell @300? So he saved BTC to go down way deeper? And now people who wanted cheaper coins are angry because he did this and saved BTC? Or am I wrong?

1. He wanted to make the price tank and buy coins at a cheaper rate = profit.
2. Was simply cashing out 30k coins.
3. Robin hood of BTC.


Makes no sense.... he pretty much crushed any organic growth or rally that could have happened with all the good things going on. Now we are stomped at the $300 level for a long time, the confidence is gone. So he lost money just so he can "pick up cheap coins"? fucking lol.... he could have made WAY more money by letting the price rise. I'm more inclined to believe he was dumping stolen coins, or just wanted fiat w/o any manipulation
1004  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Crypto community slays the 30,000 BTC Whalebear on: October 08, 2014, 03:44:30 PM
This article is stupid... it's called BEARWHALE... not whalebear
1005  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which Big Bang Theory character would you fuck? on: October 08, 2014, 03:42:19 PM
How the fuck is Bernadette winning over Penny?

Not only is Penny way hotter she also has the best personality and a sense of humor

There's this thing called "personal preference" and not everyone is going to go for the "hotter" one.

Sorry, some people have terrible opinions
1006  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which Big Bang Theory character would you fuck? on: October 08, 2014, 03:21:56 PM
How the fuck is Bernadette winning over Penny?

Not only is Penny way hotter she also has the best personality and a sense of humor
1007  Economy / Speculation / Re: The bottom is in. on: October 08, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
So this is my interpretation of recent events.

It seems obvious that most trading happens outside exchanges, given the actual transfers on the blockchain vs the volume on exchanges. Likewise that most weak hands were gone months ago. So what happened was that someone with a lot of money pushed the price down on exchanges and bought back outside of them. This would result in an increasing number of coins at little to no expense. This theory is reinforced by the fact that the top 100 btc addresses is increasing over time.

With the price approaching both psychological limits (previous ATH) and the cost of actually producing a coin in electricity, this had to stop eventually. But market sentiment was bad due to the ever-decreasing price so something was needed to regain confidence in the market. That's what the huge wall on stamp that got eaten in hours was for. Whoever was dumping the price is the same person or group who put up the wall, and who bought back the majority of it. The entire point of that exercise was to give the idea that there was huge demand that had just been waiting for the right time. The costs involved were likely to be insignificant in the grand scheme, and in any case necessary. The cost of doing business.

The next step is to slowly pump the price, making it look organic, until momentum eventually takes over and others pump the price to the next ATH.

It's up from here.


Sorry Ibian, but you can't predict the unknown just like all the other TA clowns in these boards. NO ONE knows where we are headed, we don't even know for sure if the Wallstreet investments and Wrinkelvii ETFs are happening... we don't know how many other whales are willing to dump their coins.


I don't buy the idea that whoever dumped the recent 30k coins did it as a favor to bitcoin, to make it look like there was huge demand... he did it because he simply wanted fiat instead, it could have even been stolen coins... who knows? But he didn't do any favors, he broke a lot of confidence and caused panic.... no wallstreet investor will want to touch this when whales keep reminding everyone that they have the power to sink the market
1008  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your pic, I will rate you on: October 08, 2014, 02:16:55 PM
My daughter



Super cute/10 ....u form Philippines?



Are u dumb or what he asked you to post your pic instead of commenting on others pics.
And by the way who r u to judge that its my pic or not.you are dumb stranger to me ,so mind your own business.

Woah, calm down buddy,  I wasn't commenting on your picture.  I was making a comment about dafar's comment, I assumed he was a man and he gave you a high rating.
It was a joke, don't take it personally.


First of all, wouldn't say 8 is that high because 6-7 is average.

And is it gay to know the difference between a good looking guy and an ugly guy? You sound like an insecure homophobe.

And yeah, this was for me to comment on other pics... but since you asked:  https://i.imgur.com/8pNY4ps.jpg


1009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: October 07, 2014, 04:38:43 AM
This last slow bleed that we have been facing is redistributing the BTC out of the hands of the small holders and more into the hands of the larger holders.   I think that most of the people that are panic selling probably have <10BTC and the holders of >50 or >100 or even >1000 are picking up additional coins for their holdings...

Seems like the opposite is happening actually.


A whale just sold 30K btc this weekend, it was from one guy and it was bought out by many  

I posted you the link yesterday that showed all the early adopters are accumulating....our aggregate balance just keeps increasing.

You think one "whale" dumping 30k is the sky falling. Lol. I was ecstatic the entire day yesterday. Like a kid on Xmas morning opening my presents as I scooped up deals bit by bit.  

I know your type from watching the last three spikes....if you are able to hold out until the next peak (and that's a big "if") you will be the first one screaming from the rooftops about what a genius investor you were and how your faith in bitcoin never faltered....remember today, the day that you were a sad sack of shit that thought he was down $15k.

When did I say the sky is falling? I did say I'm down $15k which I'm probably not gonna see again... but I was kinda being a negative nancy, I still think I can get back on green and I'm definitely gonna hold even til we go to $0. I already accepted my investment as money gone, so all I'm gonna do is wait and not panic

On the contrary I've been accumulating coins as well, so get the fuck out with your insults and generalizations --edit, eh, can't hate on someone who's positive
1010  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you download illegally? on: October 06, 2014, 07:20:06 PM
I pirate everything from Windows 8.1, MS Office, Adobe Photoshop, Final Cut X, console games, ROMs, Movies and Music



I lol at anyone who still pays for movies or music these days
1011  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: October 06, 2014, 06:08:49 PM
This last slow bleed that we have been facing is redistributing the BTC out of the hands of the small holders and more into the hands of the larger holders.   I think that most of the people that are panic selling probably have <10BTC and the holders of >50 or >100 or even >1000 are picking up additional coins for their holdings...

Seems like the opposite is happening actually.


A whale just sold 30K btc this weekend, it was from one guy and it was bought out by many 
1012  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: October 05, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
I'm pretty confident I'm down $15,000 which I will never see again thanks to my risk taking in crypto currency.

Aren't you the person who was gonna lie to their dad about the use to which you were going to put a million dollar loan? Put it into bitcoin instead?

Yup, you remembered? I am so glad I didn't invest my dad's money.... he already thinks im an idiot, would have been down half a million right now


Dont risk more than you are willing to set on fire and watch burn.  This is advice for ANY AND ALL trading whether it be in crypto, forex, or the stock exchange.

I invested a lot of money, which I am not willing to "set on fire"... I wouldn't "set on fire" anything over $100... but investing $100 will not give me any significant returns.

But even though the amount I invested was not something I was "willing to lose"... I thought the risk of potentially losing that amount for the chance that I could become rich was a gamble I was willing to take. It's not like I have wife and kids or will end up in the streets if I lose this money... but it's still a lot of money


Were you forced to sell right now?

Nope, holding til it goes to $0 even if there's a 10% chance I could still come out on top
1013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: October 05, 2014, 06:48:36 PM
I'm pretty confident I'm down $15,000 which I will never see again thanks to my risk taking in crypto currency.


The people who bought at the beginning of this thread, congratulations, you were the true early adopters
1014  Economy / Speculation / Re: im not happy on: October 05, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
Just sell. Obviously something is wrong behind the scenes and whales are getting out.

Actually quite the opposite is true... the top 500 addresses have been accumulating the entire time.


Source?



I want to know if one of the biggest advocates (satoshi, max kaiser, facebook twins, eric vorhees, etc) are selling
1015  Economy / Speculation / Re: who is responsible to this bitcoin price mini crash ? on: October 05, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
This is quite obvious now that it is a coordinated attack; somebody is deliberately selling through all support levels supported by jumping monkeys spreading doom and gloom.  I don't like conspiracies, but if we'll ever learn the truth I'm sure it will be fascinating. Meanwhile, buying all I can off that attacker, thanks anon.

How are you still so confident there will be a reversal? I wish I was as confident as you... I'm not scared or in a doom and gloom mindset per say.. but I'm not confident either

I am confident that there will be a reversal because nothing has changed. They try to scare you that something did you just don't know, but I prefer to trust the known facts. Known fact - everything is fine, bitcoin works perfectly, paypal started accepting it, and someone is so shitlessly scared of bitcoin that he invested alot of money to try and bring it's price down. So I use what I know - he does not have endless coins to do this, sooner or later he will run out, then there will be a recovery.

My advice - buy what you can, move off exchanges immediately in case it turns out the coins were "imaginary" - yes, exchanges can do that.


But what doesn't make sense to me is why does someone with a near endless supply of bitcoin want to crash the price down and invoke fear to the public? Wouldn't he make more money by allowing bitcoin's price to rise? He is deeply invested in bitcoin yet he's purposely causing damage, which may even be permanent, to people's confidence and discouraging people to put in money? I doubt he is trying to create a cheap re-entry point for himself.

Which makes me think it could be the big miners who have been collecting bitcoin for a long time or someone with stolen coins who don't care about the exit price.
1016  Economy / Speculation / Re: So when should you buy in. My thoughts from a long term bear. on: October 05, 2014, 05:45:01 PM
they still haven't cracked the protocol.

what's all the fuss?


Protocal dont mean shit without demand


If no one puts money into bitcoin, the price will stay low and the people who got in late 2013 lost a LOT of purchasing power, that's the fuss.


I dont buy this idea that bitcoin can only go to the moon or $0. My biggest fear was bitcoin stabilizing at a low price which seems to be happening now. Even if the demand for bitcoin never picks up and it ends up as a failed experiment, it wont necessarily go to $0 because of the bagholders who will keep holding and the small amount of transactions that could still continue through high profile merchants.
1017  Economy / Speculation / Re: who is responsible to this bitcoin price mini crash ? on: October 05, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
This is quite obvious now that it is a coordinated attack; somebody is deliberately selling through all support levels supported by jumping monkeys spreading doom and gloom.  I don't like conspiracies, but if we'll ever learn the truth I'm sure it will be fascinating. Meanwhile, buying all I can off that attacker, thanks anon.

How are you still so confident there will be a reversal? I wish I was as confident as you... I'm not scared or in a doom and gloom mindset per say.. but I'm not confident either
1018  Economy / Speculation / Re: So when should you buy in. My thoughts from a long term bear. on: October 05, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
What if bitcoin stays low like this forever and never goes back to ATH?  Cry
1019  Economy / Speculation / Re: For those who have no idea what to do on: October 05, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
**Note: For the record, I released the majority of my holdings between $600-$850 but still have some stake in this market.


When did you get in?


Good post, glad I read it

I got into Bitcoin June 2011.

Thank you Smiley

Ah ok, it makes sense to sell and take your profits around $600-$850 if you got in at 2011.


I was just trying to see your perspective. If you got in after Nov 2013 and sold at a loss, then that would probably mean you're not confident in this system healing itself or having another phase where the input far exceeds the output. Which is what most of us holders are hoping for, but like you said it's a gamble.
1020  Economy / Speculation / Re: im not happy on: October 05, 2014, 05:26:28 AM
Would be hilarious if bitcoin skyrockets a few months after you sell


but lol at this dumbass getting emotional, looks like he went all in after being convinced by "experts" form the internet
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