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1001  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 6990 Now available on: June 18, 2011, 06:02:23 PM
I have 3 in one box with maybe room to sqeeze one more... I wouldn't go 4 in a single system... these cards get hot... VERY HOT, im struggling to keep these 3 under 100c

I'd never put 4 6990's on one mobo, that was just an example. Unless you have a massive water cooling loop.

The air cooler on these things sucks, it's loud, small and doesn't do a very good job of cooling the card.
It's as if they wanted to pave the road for other companies to create aftermarket coolers for it (far as I know, they still don't exist).
1002  Economy / Economics / Re: Namecoin and Bitcoin value are now equal (based on difficulty) on: June 18, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Namecoin doesn't work on the "real" internet.

To invent a random demonstrating number, 99.9% of people are not willing to set up a browser to use a separate DNS server, or even bother to change their DNS in Windows, to access some .bit sites.

Usability is more important than domain seizures to the overwhelming majority of the world's web surfers.
Namecoin is made with the domain owner's protection in mind. What about visitors? How many average people will tweak with settings just to access some domain subset?

Whereas anyone with a normal internet connection, Linux, Windows, Mac, can open a bitcoin wallet within a minute or less or recieve payments.

Few people want to buy something that gives you a domain not accessible by anyone besides a few thousand people in the world.
1003  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Sapphire 5850 Fan Dead on: June 18, 2011, 02:31:30 PM
Guess it's luck as well.

I've run a 5850 for over a year now at 90% fan speed 24/7 and nothing has happened (famous last words)..
1004  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 6990 Now available on: June 18, 2011, 12:15:12 PM
6990s are a stupid buy for mining anyway. $729.99 + 8.50 shipping for ~800Mhash/sec? .93 $/Mhash, or 1.08MHash/$.

Even if you manage to cram 4 into a computer somehow (which is as I understand it not really feasible) you're pulling less than 1Mhash/$, and generating $.017/MHash (per day).

If you buy it for a casual mining/gaming machine, it's still a crappy buy as 2x 6970s are cheaper and run better, but I'm not here to argue that I guess.

You're not counting in other costs:

4x6990 = 8 GPUS, you only need one computer if the mobo supports 4 pci-e slots.

8x6970 = 8 GPUS, you need two computers = two motherboards, power supplies, processors, RAM, casing, possible WLAN adapters etc.

It's actually more or less a bargain plus it saves space.
1005  Other / Off-topic / Re: Off-topic from the Silk Road thread on: June 18, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
Take everything pedos post "behind seven proxies" with a grain of salt.

Hell, there is even a guide on hidden wiki on TOR how to lobby people into accepting pedos, how to post, what tone to use, which arguments to create etc.

They even created a political party in Denmark, good thing the founders were arrested on multiple child abuse charges though.

Some of them are deluded enough to think other people will accept their actions.
Might be their detachment from reality or just general mental disorders.
1006  Economy / Economics / Re: When will the $15 barrier be broken? on: June 18, 2011, 01:06:15 AM
Like Madoff? Or insider trading regulations?
Madoff wasn't a big player.

The big players get to launder 1/3 of Mexico's GDP for the drug cartels and suffer only a token fine equal to a single digit percentage of their profits.

Considering he made off with $65 billion which is almost 8% of all liquid US dollars in existence, I'd say he was a big player.
His bank accounts contained more money than those of the measurably richest man in the world.
1007  Economy / Economics / Re: Looks like Bitcoin is no more volatile than RIM Stock on: June 18, 2011, 12:56:21 AM
Sony stock melted over 2.08 billion dollars since the data leaks.


Sure, not overnight, but from the high of $33 a few months ago, $24 is almost a 30% drop in a short timeframe.
1008  Economy / Economics / Re: Looks like Bitcoin is no more volatile than RIM Stock on: June 18, 2011, 12:49:24 AM
Market cap. is arbitrary and fluid.

Many big companies have billion dollar swings in their total stock value over a few days or weeks and their life goes on.

BTC has an advantage though; It doesn't have to pay dividends, and it doesn't have to please investors by making changes.
Only supply, demand and scarcity determine it's value, not mass layoffs, firing a CEO etc.
1009  Economy / Economics / Re: When will the $15 barrier be broken? on: June 18, 2011, 12:46:31 AM
You can bet they are trying to profit with inside information if they can. Why wouldn't they? They are not subject to any laws or insider trading rules like stock exchanges right?
I hate to break it to you but the big players on Wall Street aren't subject to any laws or trading rules either.

Like Madoff? Or insider trading regulations?
1010  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A Heroin Store on: June 18, 2011, 12:34:36 AM
That's the point. A junkie shooting himself up with coke or a hippie just having a few joints is victimless (though coercion, death and extortion is often a part of producing 'harder' drugs due to the massive profit margins due to illegality -> cycle)

I don't mind if some guy buys pot on Silk Road for bitcoins. If they buy CP I wouldn't want anything to do with them & would hope an undercover busts them eventually (though a very paranoid pedo might be hard to catch).
1011  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Beware of PayPal and other reversible transfer services on: June 18, 2011, 12:18:47 AM
This is where BTC excels.

Once it's paid, it's paid. Nobody gets to lie or manipulate any manager or customer support personnel to 'reverse' a payment since it's impossible.

Sure it has it's risks, but I'd rather take those, than risk being charged back even up to 90/180 days after a transaction happened.
1012  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Prices rising again. on: June 18, 2011, 12:14:24 AM
Damnit, missed the entire rally this time.

Didn't think it would stop at 13 bucks. Maybe another one tomorrow.
1013  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A Heroin Store on: June 18, 2011, 12:10:39 AM
Someone was comparing it to heroin above. They are both illegal in most countries.
1014  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 6990 Now available on: June 17, 2011, 11:36:57 PM
Definitely.

Newegg used to have a 1 item only - limit on high end cards like GTX590, Radeon 5970/6990 etc... For ages.

Not many other demographics besides BTC miners who would need 10 at once.
1015  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: CCC not recognizing bottom card on: June 17, 2011, 11:34:30 PM
You should turn off automatic updates on all rigs if you have Windows.
Will save you a lot of headaches esp. in the form of not getting random reboots out of nowhere.
1016  Economy / Economics / Re: It's growing back on: June 17, 2011, 11:27:20 PM
Good times, good times. Weekends are always a fun time to trade, with the price going up and down like a yo-yo.

As suggested by another forum member, here is the Mt. Gox weekend theme song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
1017  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Visiontek 6950 - no dual bios switch? on: June 17, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
If it's a 1GB version it doesn't have the switch, regardless of vendor.

Only the 2GB can be unlocked and has the dual BIOS.
1018  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A Heroin Store on: June 17, 2011, 11:11:17 PM
The heroin store idea was more of a libertarian thought experiment than a serious proposal.

If somebody started discussing a CP store on this forum they would a) very quickly get a really bad reputation and b) probably get banned by the admins.

So why not the same reaction to somebody who discusses a heroin store? Because CP is coercive and selling heroin to adults isn't.

Meh, I don't really care if my neighbor buys stuff to put up his nose. It's his life, and I might think he's ruining it esp. if he can't keep up the habit with legal funds, but it's his life. Who am I to judge him.

If he's paying to see footage of horribly abused or manipulated kids (or even paying someone to do it) then it becomes an issue. I don't need to know the children in question personally to care; I just don't want to live near a person who can without any remorse be turned on by abuse of kids.
I don't care that the abuse already happened and he's just looking at the evidence.

And I wouldn't exactly mind or make the effort to call the cops if someone were to gouge his eyes out with a HIV-infected rusty fork.

I'm no drug advocate.
But I'd claim that most people would say a pedophile is about the worst thing in society, somewhere along with people who kill for fun or torture pets for amusement.

At least you can cure a drug addict.
How do you cure someone whose urges to screw children wont go away even with chemical castration?
1019  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (1.5Thash/s) on: June 17, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Haven't had significant issues or RPC errors for over 24 hours. Upping another 2ghash to your pool.
1020  Economy / Economics / Re: Would Las Vegas still be like that in an ideal world? on: June 17, 2011, 10:40:58 PM
Sure. When people come up with grandiose visions of expanding rigs all around their 100sq-ft apartments
& 95dB of noise around the clock, even on the toilet and 6 the kitchen.

Wife divorces and takes the house.
Kids get fed up of generating extra power to your radeon by running in a hamster wheel and renounce their daddy.
Your dog with burned fur escapes after being forced to sleep next to 10 hot computers for months.

You end up shivering on the cold dark streets,
one night beating a hipster for his Nokia N900 so you can taste 0.70mhash/s just for a while.
Then it strikes you clear as thunder; I need help.

"My name is Adam and I'm a miner."
"Hello Adam"

And you see you are not alone.
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