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1001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 01, 2023, 07:17:19 PM
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Sevilla have reportedly transfer listed their entire squad to resolve their €90million (£77m) debt.

The Europa League winners have fallen on hard times despite confirming their return to the Champions League after winning another European title this season.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/sevilla-transfer-list-entire-squad-30364512
WTF was wrong with sevilla? Sevilla's debt was pretty small compared with the debts owned by real madrid or even barcelona. It's very bad to see that sevilla put entire of players on its main squad for sale.
I guess that if sevilla was doing, it caused by the club needs money as soon as possible to pay the debt. Sevilla needs to sell all of players but the problem is buyers can play with the value of sevilla's players.

That proves that winning europa leagu was just giving small amounts of money. Sevilla's debt is far less compared with rice's price.





With players' salaries continuing to be expensive, I also feel that the prizes obtained in a competition, league or tournament may not be able to cover the operational costs of the team as a whole. Therefore, it seems not surprising when a team still has debt even though they won a title and or a trophy in that season. Also, comparing Sevilla with Real Madrid and Barcelona, of course, Sevilla's debt is lower because after all, Real Madrid and Barcelona have always wanted to have star players, which of course will make their expenses and debts bigger.

Yes, but not that much... Sevilla's debt is 90 million euros while Barcelona's is 3 billion and the Barcelona management is not worried, on the contrary they are taking on new debts to cover the old ones (which of course is very bad). However, the Barcelona management apparently cannot afford to destroy such an empire and such a team, so they have to do that.
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 01, 2023, 07:14:22 PM

There were the rumors that they are now going after younger superstars as well. I can't remember who gave the interview but it was about Bernardo Silva and that it is possible that he will leave Manchester City and go to Saudi Arabia and he is 28 years old now. That would already mean a paradigm shift because so far the complaints are limited as it is mostly those old players who are going to retire soon or are prone to physical issues from time to time, but a superstar like Silva would send a strong signal to many other players as well from the perspective of the Saudi Professional League. I think there are many potential transfers in the making and it is not only about the old players.

If that is indeed the case, then it will make me change my mind to some extent. I don't mind if there is another top league, it's the opposite, especially for the players that there is more choice where they can go to play. Besides, if this league is really good football, it will only be a big plus. Regarding Silva, Enrique wants PSG to sign him, if this is really the case and not a rumour, I think the player will prefer Paris.
1003  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: SOLANA on: July 01, 2023, 07:01:45 PM
Да, не только на солане нфт рынок мертвый сейчас, да и в принципе, разве что на битке недавно отстрелялся этот тренд(сейчас пока тихо, но если и есть какая-то движуха на нфт рынке, то на битке). Хотя, завтра будет минт GEN3 коллекции, которую равняют на "голубую фишку", очень сомневаюсь, что это вернет какой-то актив на рынок соланы в разделе нфт, но это хоть что-то.

Видимо я ошиблась, когда сказала, что нфт рынок в том числе и на солане мертвый валяется. Сеть Solana не только жива в нфт сфере, но еще и впервые обошла эфир по торговому объёму с NFT. Разница между составляет  3 миллионов долларов, несмотря на то, что количество покупателей меньше в полтора раза.



Та коллекция, которую я упомянула, кстати, вышла довольно хорошо, можно было спокойно слить по 35+ сол(почти икс 2), для медвежки невероятные цифры
1004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 30, 2023, 08:32:59 PM
For now they attract the attention but if they want people to stick around they will need to bring in new players continuously or otherwise the positive effect will decrease. but the question is whether this PR campaign is done because of their World Cup application 2030 or whether their plan is to really build the best league in the world with the money they have and pull away the public audiences from other continents in the world. But that would need tremendous resources over a long period of time and for now it is not clear if all their activities serve a plan that goes beyond the World Cup.

The people who run it all obviously don't count the money, so they don't spare huge sums of money, I don't think it's a problem for them. As for the World Cup bid in 2030 I think it is unrelated, look at Qatar, did they do that? No, but the tournament turned out amazing. They used a different strategy, doing everything for tourists, didn't develop their league, it resulted in them spending several times more money to develop the whole thing, but made very little money from it. Let's see where Saudi Arabia's strategy leads. At this point there is essentially nothing to compare it with

It is not about making money out of hosting a tournament. It is about gaining influence in the social and political world, and through that also gain influence in the economic world. They don't care whether their hotels are booked. They care about their reputation. You can't compare Qatar with Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is 200 times as big as Qatar and from that point of view it does at least make sense to have some infrastructure investment as not everything will have to be removed because it isn't needed. In Qatar almost nothing of what they have built was needed afterwards. Saudi Arabia probably has serious long term plans to build a league and to further domesticate the sport in their country. Qatar was a one time event. I don't know whether the tournament in Qatar actually was amazing. What I know is that people felt less comfortable moving freely in public because even if it seemed as if they weren't threatened, there is still this awkward feeling as a guest that you could do something wrong you don't even know about and end up in jail. I am not talking about the obvious things like taking drugs, that is the same in the USA or Mexico or Canada. But in general, it is different.

Whatever the plan is but I think the SPL plans long term and will keep tuning up their league with players from Europe.

They continue to fill their league with players from Europe who are almost retired or close to it, that much is obvious. They are trying to attract attention to the league, to lure in as many players as possible, but they only succeed in luring in the old ones who are going after the money. I will never tire of repeating that this is a stupid strategy, because young and promising players will never choose this league for the money, because it's much more comfortable and promising to play in Europe in the first place. The Saudi league is just a bag of money
1005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 30, 2023, 08:25:03 PM
Except that when Leicester City won the league, they performed very poorly in the Premier League the following season. However, they were good in the Champions League, reaching the 1/4 final and almost beating Atletico Madrid to get to 1/2. I remember that season, that match, the Foxes were really unlucky in the match then, but they were strong. It felt like they were only wasting their energy on the Champions League, bypassing the main league. Overall, the foxes' level of play was around 7th in the league all the time, except for the last season when they dropped out of the league below.

I don't think the same fate awaits MU, but if they put all their energy into the Champions League to prove something to anyone, it will undoubtedly happen
Leicester city needs to signed more players despite their elimination from the English premier league. It perplexed me to see the foxes' terrible performance, the board always relenting in league games and they don't have the essential quality players, they blew good chances that would have governed them into becoming the top club, take a look at where they are, they landed back to the roots. Leicester City has been relegated from the English Premier League; they have been dealt a blow, and this time they will face the challenges that of attempting to return to such elite competition.

If they put together a quality squad, I have no doubt they can come back in a season, because they have experience of playing against strong opponents, they can win in the second English league too. In general it is difficult to say anything about the coming season, whether they will sign someone or not. Of the top players we can hardly count on any more, because they are not in the top league
1006  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: June 30, 2023, 08:21:41 PM
Вообще обанкротившийся Celsius должен был продать альткоины на сумму более $215 млн. Не сказать, что это крупная сумма, учитывая, что распихана она по разным токенам, но с утра это шороху небольшого навело в комьюнити, потом еще и сек подключился с непонятными заявлениями по поводу etf, мол, все заявки неадекватные, заполнены в не полной мере и тд. Но походу даже это не помогло слить рынок, все равно растет. Похоже на какую-то манипуляцию по вынесу шортистов, особенно на эфире, который, кстати пробил сопротивление и если закрепится выше 1910, то может и еще выше пойти Huh
1007  Local / Бayнти и aиpдpoпы / Re: RetroHunt on: June 29, 2023, 09:01:31 PM
Если вы регистрировались в программу, то время проверить кошельки. Кратко:

Нужно было состоять в дискорде до 3 мая(если не ошибаюсь), что претендовать на получение этой нфт из коллекции. По заявлениям суи эти нфт можно будет продать при первой возможности или холдть и получать какие-то плюшки.

Июнь получился жирным для дропхантеров. Дропы раздали в:

- Omega Network
- Pika Protocol
- Maverick Protocol
- SPACE.ID
- Vela Token


Судя по сообщениям в чате, с дропа SPACE.ID фермы взяли по 20-30к баксов, на маверике тоже было неплохо мультить, но только тем, кто мультил ручками, подключая кошелек к сайту. Всех софтоводов побрили наглухо. Кто где участвовал? Удалось кому-нибудь сорвать дроп их этих 5 вышедших раздач?

Ретродропы - это херня, говорили они. Cheesy


Хм, знаю только про спейс и велу и то не делала их(и слава богу, лишь зря потратила бы время). Вела нормально раздала(тем, кто делал "дешевые аккаунты ради аккаунтов), немного, но претензий к проекту нет, потому что они изначально сказали, что дроп будет небольшой. Короче если разумно делать акки, то можно было нормально заработать, а если пытаться попасть в топ, то там не окупиться. Не буду проводить расчеты, но люди, которые попали в топ - 500 как я поняла потратили гораздо больше, чем получили. Короче вывод: если делать дешевые акки(крутануть немного объема), то окуп умноженный на количество аккаунтов, иначе - рект

Спейс. Разочарование. Вообще не оправдал себя и насыпал копейки какие-то, кто-то даже не окупается. Вышло заработать(судя по всему те фермеры с 20-30к доходом) у тех, кто абузил рефку, а это либо лютые абузеры, либо админы тг каналов, которые загоняли свою подписоту. Ну и выйти в 0 судя по всему вышло у тех, кто домены брал
1008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 29, 2023, 08:59:15 PM
It is possible that they could go far in the Champions League itself, as their form is likely to get even better next season. However, their merit this season is largely from the fact that other teams such as Chelsea and Liverpool have been extremely poor this season. In fact if it was otherwise, it's unlikely they would have stayed in fourth place, I think their position would have been 5 or 6
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion. It is reminiscent of the 2015-2016 scenario when Leicester City emerged as the champions of the English Premier League (EPL). The major teams did not perform consistently, providing a significant opportunity for Leicester to dominate the league table. Apart from factors such as luck and the exceptional generation of players they had at that time, the dominance of teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester City, who are typically among the top contenders, was compromised as they were not at their best.

The illustrious name and the accomplishments achieved by Manchester United, along with Alex Ferguson, are undeniable. They truly deserve appreciation for that. However, since his retirement, it seems that Manchester United has lost its spirit and playing style, as evidenced by their failure to clinch the EPL title again. They have brought in David Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, all with the aim of winning the league, but luck has not been on their side. During the transitional periods, they have also relied on interim coaches such as Giggs, Carrick, and Rangnick, who took over as the main coach but were eventually dismissed due to their inability to meet the club's expectations.

Hopefully, Ten Hag can rebuild Manchester United and bring back the glory days reminiscent of the Ferguson era. At the very least, we can enjoy a fierce competition in the EPL, and they can establish themselves as strong contenders in the race for the Champions League.

Except that when Leicester City won the league, they performed very poorly in the Premier League the following season. However, they were good in the Champions League, reaching the 1/4 final and almost beating Atletico Madrid to get to 1/2. I remember that season, that match, the Foxes were really unlucky in the match then, but they were strong. It felt like they were only wasting their energy on the Champions League, bypassing the main league. Overall, the foxes' level of play was around 7th in the league all the time, except for the last season when they dropped out of the league below.

I don't think the same fate awaits MU, but if they put all their energy into the Champions League to prove something to anyone, it will undoubtedly happen
1009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 29, 2023, 08:51:27 PM
For now they attract the attention but if they want people to stick around they will need to bring in new players continuously or otherwise the positive effect will decrease. but the question is whether this PR campaign is done because of their World Cup application 2030 or whether their plan is to really build the best league in the world with the money they have and pull away the public audiences from other continents in the world. But that would need tremendous resources over a long period of time and for now it is not clear if all their activities serve a plan that goes beyond the World Cup.

The people who run it all obviously don't count the money, so they don't spare huge sums of money, I don't think it's a problem for them. As for the World Cup bid in 2030 I think it is unrelated, look at Qatar, did they do that? No, but the tournament turned out amazing. They used a different strategy, doing everything for tourists, didn't develop their league, it resulted in them spending several times more money to develop the whole thing, but made very little money from it. Let's see where Saudi Arabia's strategy leads. At this point there is essentially nothing to compare it with
1010  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: SOLANA on: June 29, 2023, 08:45:51 PM
Solana останавливает проект Cardinal, о чем было заявлено на днях. Проект изначально планировался для создания и поддержки NFT, и после полутора лет работы было принято решение о его закрытии. Видимо рынок NFT на данный момент весьма нестабилен и еще только формируется... Кто что думает по этому поводу?

Да, не только на солане нфт рынок мертвый сейчас, да и в принципе, разве что на битке недавно отстрелялся этот тренд(сейчас пока тихо, но если и есть какая-то движуха на нфт рынке, то на битке). Хотя, завтра будет минт GEN3 коллекции, которую равняют на "голубую фишку", очень сомневаюсь, что это вернет какой-то актив на рынок соланы в разделе нфт, но это хоть что-то.

К тому же, трудно билдить проект, который не пользуется спросом. И не пользуется он спросом не потому, что не интересен людям, а потому что сейчас он просто не нужен
1011  Other / Archival / Re: SUI наконец-то запустил Mainnet on: June 29, 2023, 08:35:52 PM
SUI запилили график разлока монет на своём сайте:


Видимо все таки этот казус их вразумил сделать график, уже хоть что-то. Разве на таких графиках не показывают разлок вплоть до последнего токена? Эмиссия у них 10 лярдов, а тут разлок показан до 5


Тем временем TVL экосистемы Sui продолжает падать, комьюнити растворяется, а проекты на этот блокчейн не идут. Мда, суи с самого начала не смогла создать комьюнити, привлечь проекты к себе, когда я заходила в дс чаты, только и видела, что все хотят получить дроп, этим комьюнити на долго не сохранишь

1012  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: June 28, 2023, 07:59:00 PM
        Я все же остаюсь оптимистом и рассматриваю вариант с тем, что рост продолжится в район 37.5к$. Как понимаю, то триггером могут стать события с BlackRock. Уж очень настойчиво данная компания хочет принять ETF.

Я читала, что на рассмотрение такой заявки у SEC есть максимум 240 дней, то есть вечно с этим уж точно тянуть не будут. Казалось бы, что BlackRock подали первыми заявку и в случае чего они станут первыми, кто будет предлагать свои услуги в этом секторе, однако представители компании ARK Investment Management под руководством Кэти Вуд уточнили, что они подали аналогичную заявку ещё в апреле 2023 года. Насколько это правда не знаю, мб на новостях играют, но взять во внимание уж точно стоит Cheesy

Интересно что этих заявок на битковые етф теперь штук 6 или даже больше... Интересно получается, если их все одобрят, то получается что и бирж будет такое же количество? Или просто где-то будут разные тикеры, но с одинаковым смыслом?

Я думаю у себя где-то подкрутят эти тикеры, просто создавать целую платформу для торговли етф одним активом не целесообразно, хотя платформа, где представлены одни и те же тикеры, но от разных компашек - вполне может быть. Интересно сколько комиссию они будут брать, не за спасибо же они будут работать...
1013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 28, 2023, 07:47:39 PM
It seems that the recruitment of up to 100 European football players will not materialize in the next few years unless all the teams in the Saudi league also do the same as what Al-Nassr, Al-Ittihad, Al-Hilal, and Al-Ahli have done because we I know very well that only the four teams above are able to provide that much salary.

Maybe the dream of bringing in these star players should be appreciated to advance the Saudi league or for other investments, but for now even in the next 5 years it's quite impossible. Regardless of all that, with the arrival of other European players or coaches who will join the Saudi league team, the attention of the whole world is now on Arabs and can't wait to see if they can be consistent or not later.
It is impossible to bring in 100 of Europe's top players in the transfer market this season and next season. What's more, as you said, those who are most hunting for European players are only the 4 teams that are under the auspices of PIF. which PIF certainly has very large finances that can support the 4 clubs to spend quite a lot. But in the current transfer market, there are actually quite a lot of players joining SPL clubs. but there are too many of them. but still, the presence of Benzema at Al-Ittihad and CR7 at Al-Nassr has become an extraordinary attraction for us not to want to miss the Arab league. I really want to see how Al-Nassr will deal with Al-ittihad. The meeting of the two players who used to be partners at Real Madrid will certainly make an interesting impression on the match.

But it is possible that these transfer activities stimulate more business potential domestically but also internationally. Sure the salaries are too high to pay off in sales of merchandise or stadium tickets, but they follow a vision, an agenda and although I can't fully understand what their goal is also in terms of finances and business, I believe they are not doing it to only burn money. They might be doing all of this to kick off a positive dynamic for their league although they are currently spoiling players with those unreal salary expectations. Players will soon say "no" to 40 million per year because it sounds like not enough.

It's that simple, they are not stupid to pay that kind of money, and for someone to even change the law so that they can sell a player at a higher price. It's just a PR campaign, nothing more. Attract a lot of players, pay them a lot of money so that they stay in this league as long as possible and attract other players. Even if they don't attract other players, they will attract a lot of attention to their league
1014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 28, 2023, 07:44:47 PM
You're right, and anyone else should probably admit that too. Manchester United under Ten Hag is better and developed than the previous coach. They ended the season in third which is not a bad ending with 75 points.

But we realize that Ten Hag has not completely solved Manchester United's problems so far. Ten Hag still has to bring in some quality players as defenders and strikers. Manchester United's defense is still fragile, so is the striker. So of course Ten Hag has to have a good focus on that and improve on it next season, especially since Manchester United is one of the teams that has represented the Premier League in the Champions League.
United surprised everyone by qualifying for the UCL; at first, they were undervalued in the early games, but as time passed, the squad regained its form and continued their winning streak. The red devils have significant challenges that must be addressed, but everything is progressing smoothly. Manchester United had a tremendous season, and qualifying for the Champions League is an incredible achievement for the team and fans. Erik Ten Hag will strive to add more players as soon as United is sold, because the bidding process is depleting the transfer budget. 

It is possible that they could go far in the Champions League itself, as their form is likely to get even better next season. However, their merit this season is largely from the fact that other teams such as Chelsea and Liverpool have been extremely poor this season. In fact if it was otherwise, it's unlikely they would have stayed in fourth place, I think their position would have been 5 or 6
1015  Other / Archival / Re: SUI наконец-то запустил Mainnet on: June 28, 2023, 07:29:36 PM
Тут вчера оказывается один из пользователей твиттера провел собственное расследование по SUI. В целом это расследование направлено на то, что бы показать насколько это контора скамная, печатает втихую токены, никому об этом не говорит и живет припеваюче. Я кстати даже не знала, что эмиссия токена до сих пор скрыта, потому что когда был сейл на биржах, на некоторых из них были графики с распределением, я думала, что все так и есть
1016  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: June 27, 2023, 06:04:46 PM
        Я все же остаюсь оптимистом и рассматриваю вариант с тем, что рост продолжится в район 37.5к$. Как понимаю, то триггером могут стать события с BlackRock. Уж очень настойчиво данная компания хочет принять ETF.

Я читала, что на рассмотрение такой заявки у SEC есть максимум 240 дней, то есть вечно с этим уж точно тянуть не будут. Казалось бы, что BlackRock подали первыми заявку и в случае чего они станут первыми, кто будет предлагать свои услуги в этом секторе, однако представители компании ARK Investment Management под руководством Кэти Вуд уточнили, что они подали аналогичную заявку ещё в апреле 2023 года. Насколько это правда не знаю, мб на новостях играют, но взять во внимание уж точно стоит Cheesy
1017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 26, 2023, 07:03:20 PM
Through the Insta story, Barcelona officially announced its new player who was successfully brought in from Manchester City on a free agent status, namely Ilkay Gundogan. This is a good recruitment for Barcelona to strengthen its squad in various competitions starting next season and at this time there is still no clear information regarding what number Gundogan will wear. For Gundogan, the atmosphere at Camp Nou is certainly different from that at the Etihad stadium, it is clear that he will start a new challenge with Barcelona. After winning the treble winner with Manchester City, of course Gundogan wanted to try new things and he decided the right choice by joining Barcelona.
Ilkay Gundongan is really want to become a challenger than just join a strong club which is can secure many trophies, respect for him. Barcelona is one of strong club in La Liga, but sometime their performance are inconsistent, Real Madrid is more consistent and full of star players. Since Xavi always like to use his 4-3-3 strategy and Barcelona only have 3 great midfielders e.g. De Jong, Pedri and Gavi, signing Gundongan is really important to make sure Barcelona's midfielders aren't burn out and tired.

Star players do not determine a club's fate in tournaments, these star players still have to play well to prove their worth. Real have many examples of failed transfers of those star players, so their consistency depends directly on the level of play of those players, not their stardom.
1018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 26, 2023, 06:44:09 PM
I see it totally normal that Mudryk didn't perform very impressively this season. Because the whole squad of Chelsea were very inadequate. Their morale was so low that they even gave up on the season quite early. In this situation it wouldn't be a healthy assessment about a player. There is a new period starting for Chelsea now with Pochettino. This is going to be the most important time period to watch Mudryk's capabilities. If the team make a good start the expectation from him will also be high.

If he still can't impress people then I will also agree with the people who think he isn't good enough for Chelsea.

On the whole, I agree with you to a certain extent. You can't win a team game alone, in this case showing well. He might not justify the 100 million he was bought for, but he should definitely fit into the squad. His goalscoring form last season was poor and I don't expect it to improve, but he could be a new prodigy if Chelsea start showing well in the new season
1019  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Coinlist - хайп площадка токенсейлов on: June 26, 2023, 06:29:30 PM
baeva, ты уверена, что ты про тот самый даомейкер говоришь? Прочитал твой текст и подумал, что есть еще какой-то даомейкер, который я еще не познал. На даомейкере всегда был KYC.

Про кус да, не знала, что он там обязателен, мне почему то казалось, что его проходить нужно только после выигранной алоки(странно, но не важно). По поводу того, что бы залочить что-то, зачем? Спросила у тех, кто залетал в сейлы, они тоже сказали, что лочить ничего не надо для участия. Если я правильно поняла систему этих сейлов(по крайней мере которые были в последнее время), то там считался как-то скор подключенного кошелька и система была завязана на билетах. Поэтому я и сказала, что мультить просто, потому что мои знакомые делали каждый раз по 20+ аккаунтов...
1020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 25, 2023, 09:10:23 PM
Do you remember that it was Al-Hilal who didn't succeed in bringing Messi to the Arab League because Messi preferred to move closer to Club Inter Miami. And at that time Al-Hilal turned his hunt to one of the Man City players, namely Riyad Mahrez. So, I'm curious about the latest news on this one, but I haven't found any updates regarding Al-hilal's offer to bring in Riyad Mahrez. Has anyone read the news regarding news updates about Al-hilal and Riyad Mahrez?
There is no recent news regarding this player, and his contract at Manchester City runs until 2025, but rumors are circulating that he is also interested in joining the Saudi Pro Liga, and seeing how English clubs see an opportunity to sell players who are over 30 years old to the league At this time, it is very likely that soon there will be an update regarding Riyadh Mahrez to the Saudi Pro League.
Chelsea have already managed to sell a number of players here and maybe City will also have success doing the same.

Everything is possible regarding Mahrez. For now he has a contract until 2025 and Manchester City isn't under pressure and has to make a decision. They are closely scrutinizing the transfer market themselves and if they find an opportunity to sign a strong player on Mahrez' position, there will probably be news following very soon because then they could sell him without weakening the team. But as I said time is not against them for now. Mahrez' profile would be another one that fits the SPL activities very well.
I see that Mahrez has quite a chance to join the Saudi Professional League, personally he has reached the highest level in Europe having won the Champions League as well as several titles in the domestic league. Even though the contract is still active until 2025, if you get a suitable offer, Manchester City certainly won't mind letting him go, but with a note that Manchester City also don't lose Bernardo Silva.

Such a player is not only good to have in the team, but even in the reserves just in case (I mean, if they find a good replacement for his position), so if I were Manchester City, I would not sell him to any club, no matter if it's Saudi Arabia. But on the other hand, it's certainly better to sell him so that he has more playing practice at another club, but that's if you look only from that point of view, not otherwise. I think the MS management are generally against this transfer.
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