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1001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: November 11, 2016, 06:45:50 AM
Most of the gamblers that win in gambling invested in having business of their own and some invested in stocks. Those people are the ones that know how to make the money grow. In our place, those who won the lottery in bigger amount able to start a business of their own and now they already have a franchise of their own lottery outlet. The best way to make a profit is to use the money you won from lottery to something that will make you more profit in the future. That is the only way to get a profit from gambling.

Having a gambling business is so profitable and we know that as we are gambler and we lose most of the time, yeah you are right that needs a good amount of capital but if there's an opportunity you have to grab it as money can be produce if you are willing to make a business.
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: November 11, 2016, 06:27:20 AM
Most of the gamblers that win in gambling invested in having business of their own and some invested in stocks. Those people are the ones that know how to make the money grow. In our place, those who won the lottery in bigger amount able to start a business of their own and now they already have a franchise of their own lottery outlet. The best way to make a profit is to use the money you won from lottery to something that will make you more profit in the future. That is the only way to get a profit from gambling.

If that is the case then they do not need to win in gambling, they have other business and they are making money on it so gambling is basically for fun on them and does not require a lot of effort to learn how to win as they do not need it in the first place.
1003  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: November 11, 2016, 06:20:02 AM
The basic rule to succeed in business is to give the best services to your customers and once you have high amount of satisfied customers they will also recommend you to people around them and that will take your sales to higher level as mouth publicity is the biggest and strongest publicity.

The most basic and most important thing for a business is to get customers, because without customers this best service thing would be meaningless, so for getting customers you should make sure your business is related to the minds of majority people living around you, so that they can use your services and later on they would promote it to others too.

One of the most important thing in any time of business, if you don't have customers = you don't any money enter into the business. In a capitalist world, a business without any profit or money will shutdown they operations.

Rule number One : Good service = Customers happy = Money Smiley
It's just some of the factors that is necessary to make your business succeed, but the most important thing is the financial aspect. You have to set up a good capital for your business which you desired and you must have a good future plan so by time you can tell that you are progressive then go to the next plan which is upgrading.
1004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: November 11, 2016, 06:09:00 AM
Yes it is indeed being used for illegal activities. The main reason? Provides no way to trace the person apparently. Yet, it is even easier to find some Bitcoin criminal than someone selling drugs and receiving notes.
yeah people know that using bitcoin then people will not know the intent of your transaction, then it is very likely that bitcoin is used for illegal activities

Yeah, but on a side note...If bitcoin is banned or illegal in your country, any transaction you will do will be illegal as long as it involves bitcoin right? Eventhough your aim or purpose is legal or lawful.
Banning  bitcoin  is  the common way to stop these transaction but  it  cant really stop the  illegal  activities   because   transaction would  happen  underground and as we all know   transactions  could be hard to  trace  up because of  anonymity of   bitcoin thats  why  its still  useless to ban it for sure.
Personally I have never seen banning something or making it illegal as a way to stop something tis a way for the government to use harsher methods in order to get their way, just look at drugs illegal in most of the world and still widely available.

Yeah, even if drugs is illegal for many years government can't still stop it for how many years. It just keeps spreading. Also i think the people behind those illegal things are also high-ranking officials or high-reputation persons which makes it difficult to stop.
Right there, it's true.. They are protected by corrupt officials and it happens in every country. With the advent of bitcoin, they find a good currency that they can use to transact in there illegal transaction and they have been doing it which also makes the price of bitcoin increase.
1005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 11, 2016, 06:03:05 AM
The winning hope is the one that keeps users coming back even when they were experiencing continuous fail in events. Secondly users feel excited and entertained when placing bets which gives a fun feel. Such feel can never be experienced in anything else. For this too users come back to gambling.
When you love the game you are playing you will really coming back as you are addicted with it, the happiness that you feel is priceless and that's why a lot of people still come back in gambling despite of the losing experience, I mean as long as you can afford then let's do it.
1006  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: November 11, 2016, 05:58:30 AM
When trading What Matters More Skills or Luck?
We need them both somehow in trading it depends if theres an investor or sponsor you will make some pumling in coin you'll gonna do is to wait till that coin will pump and wait for the profit.
I needs skills more than luck, I cannot master my luck but my skills for sure I can develop it. We are all entitled for our own luck as we are created by God, so focus on developing our skills and we can do that by educating ourselves in trading. There's information everywhere, we just need to find it out.
It is very true for finding out the right time and the right levels for trading, we just need skill.
With developing required skills, we will get all the chances to be shining with our trading. With your skill you will get chances to make profits 99% still maybe if you do have luck favored you, would have avoided the remaining 1% too.
You can learn your skills as you are the one who manage yourself. That's important in trading for your to be successful, do not just rely on your luck as that is the job of the lazy people, you can see that they will not succeed in the long run for sure.

you must never rely on your luck but that doesn't mean you don't need luck to be successful. this may sound a bit strange but i believe that you need luck in all your life and in everything that you do. trading is only one the many things.
Who would in clear mind would rely on his luck in trading, that's a complete gambling and you will never grow on that as a trader. Most of the successful trader relies solely on their skills, hence they were able to make profit in a consistent way.
1007  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: November 11, 2016, 05:55:15 AM
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Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter?

The price does not matter...the change of price does matter.


im agreed with you brother the changes of the price of bitcoin does matter for us and for those traders who trading bitcoin into usd and usd into bitcoin for them it is really good coz they making making or profit there. But for us holders you know the reesult.
Not only for traders but all of us who are using bitcoin. The topic simply says does the price matter? so even if there will be no changes in the price, it will still matter because that's our gauge to determine the value of bitcoin we have. Bitcoin will be worthless if without a price.
1008  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: November 11, 2016, 05:51:40 AM
Its possible for some people but what is already said is true, its not for the normal people possible, you either have to invest with a lot of money or started from the beginning when the bitcoin was very small.
You need to be rich to have that amount i guess, you cannot do it when you do not exert much effort unless you can win in gambling all the time but seems not so possible under that situation. You need to be specific with your plan and have the discipline to follow it.
1009  Economy / Economics / Re: why is it so hard to buy bitcoin on: November 11, 2016, 05:43:20 AM
I have not really bought any bitcoin in a while, i have been mostly trading this last year.  but i have been trying to buy today from localbitcoins and bittylicious and it has been a real challenge.  they want photos of me holding cards on localbitcoins and on bitty they need about 4 different forms of id, what is going on. 

this is seriously restrictive to anyone wanting to get into bitcoin,  like its meant to be pseudonymous but if the gate ways into bitcoin dont allow that people will be put off.    Huh
Actually all these recruitment are only for security for everyone .
And i am sure everyone has more than four I'd .
Secondly to buy and sell bitcoin at the localbitcoins is a very easy work and trusted and no one can scam .

Me, I have no hard time buying with bitcoin, it's easy in my local exchange I just need to order and then pay on the outlet they required. The rate is bigger compared in localbitcoins but I want a safe and fast transaction so I am willing to pay for the fee.
1010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 10, 2016, 02:52:15 PM
Wow Andrew Wiggins is becoming a better player also having a great win against Orlando Magic today, maybe its his motivation because his 2k rating is just 82. Having the average of 23.2 PPG 4.2 RPG with 46% FG shooting and 67% from beyond the arc. That is a major upgrade from last season. I hope the Wolves' slump will end with straight wins this month.
Those shooting percentages, especially from the three point line is going to drop sooner or later. But still, Andrew Wiggins, has shown a big improvement compared to his first two years in the league. It's actually nice to see him mature more as a player along with KAT and Zach LaVine and the other young guns of Minnesota.
its very exciting to watch that more and more players are showing their capability in terms of good competition i know its still early and most of the teams are in the trial stage but seeing that  they are really trying to compete against the giants and super power team thats enough to say that they are belongs to nba let see this young guns game from time to time now.
People are just too overactive here, it's just one win from the wolves after a unsatisfactory performance in the past. They have dominated the game but the magic team is not really a good team or shall I say "Every team has a bad day"..

If they can continue to win, maybe I am convince that they find a good chemistry already.

well the wolves for me are the team of the future. towns and wiggins are both young guys that has yet, i think, to show their fullest potential yet. it's a very good team on paper and i think all they need to do now is to find that confidence that they can actually win, and it's going to be very scary for the other western teams if these two gain a bit more experience along with their other young teammates
If wiggins is really good then Lebron would have keep him in the cleveland cavaliers line. I am more impress on towns than by wiggins. This guys is just an ordinary player for me although he scores big.. But let us see if they can make it to the playoffs.
1011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 10, 2016, 02:44:32 PM
Of course its gambling its something that you do for the money and its betting on something so that is gambling, I think its also risky so its due to these things the same as gambling for sure.
Sports betting is a gambling game that you can enjoy so much when you are a sports enthusiast. Most sports enthusiast think that they can make money out of their passion therefore they bet on a game they think they know how to cap.

No guarantee to win in gambling even if you know the game well because the odd makers know what they are doing.
that's right, house knows what they are risking so we can't really say that we have an edge even we carefully research the game and we knew the team or the player there's still a  risk on it and possible to be burned is also present, the advantage is we are enjoying and we are getting a chance to assess but its still a gamble because of the money involved.
They are also gambling but they are wiser than us, they wanted us to enjoy the game so we will always come back to gamble without knowing that we are slowly losing our money and we just realize later or in the future when problem in money will arise.
1012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 10, 2016, 02:40:51 PM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

It is not wrong after all. Gambling is just a choice so it is about caring money as you want to grow your money. Double importance and care so that you will not lost. But if you are addicted or temptated it is for bad perception this means that gambling is wrong now and it will disaster in your income in the future.
I am sure gambling is considered as entertainment and to be entertain we need to spend money. If a certain gambler does not understand it, he will be having a hard time living in gambling and will not enjoy it, the worst thing is he might also lose his wealth, hence blaming gambling for the failure.
that's right it is not the activity of gambling was wrong it is the person who did it so nothing wrong with gambling if your intention is just to have some fun with your spare time allowing you to enjoy if whatever kinds of betting you are into making some exciting and entertainment i think if we just follow the rule of use only what we afford to lose and can easily forget no problem will take place.

yeah you all for me are correct in here, people who are responsible in gambling are not having any of the problems gambling addicts are having. that proves that it's not what you do that's hurting you how the way you do it. it's easy to get carried away when you play gambling and that way it would be easy for us to lose control and lose more money. we can't blame gambling for that. we should be blaming ourselves since we were not responsible enough to get up and stop whle you still can
If you cannot control, do not bring a lot of money as for sure you will not be able to stop until your lose what you got. Believe me I have been into that situation many times and I will tell you the feeling is really devastating feeling the loses because of making a wrong decision.

It is just always in the end that we realize what we are doing is wrong.
1013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 10, 2016, 02:38:18 PM
Anything that allows you to win money easy way you will try even just one time, the human does like challenge and rewards, and if you mix them you will get the result, the potencial earnings anyone can get at gambling make us believe we will win those someday.

If there is a way to get easy money that is not gambling for sure, if we look at the statistics of people who gambling there are a lot of them get losses instead of winning the game. Gambling become addictive to someone who feel enjoy and satisfied due to betting and get win and there are people trying to recover their loss and these kind of person judge addicted to gambling.
We all lose in the end, so better enjoy gambling if you do not want to be addicted. Most of the addicted gamblers are losing more and more and they are addicted because of greed in gambling and by thinking they can make easy money, it's not good as gambling sites are designed on the other way.
1014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 10, 2016, 02:36:29 PM
invest is more secure than gambling
but gambling more and more yield than investment bitcoin. Well basically, gambling and investment have different advantages and disadvantages. if you want to be safe, the investment is the best way, but if you want fast, then gambling is the best way, but the risk that received greater
Putting your money in a gambling sites is a form of investment and that is profitable as gamblers loses in the long run, you have all the advantage like the house had, so you will certainly make profit in the future. I would choose to invest to make money and to gamble for fun.
1015  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: November 10, 2016, 01:29:42 PM
Investing and saving money are compatible options. I do a lot of bitcoin bussiness, but I allways have some saved money, who knows when I will need it. Of course best option is to invest at profitable bussiness, but every invest have a risk.
No one knows but for sure you are gonna need that in the future, anything can happen in the future and no person has not experience any problem in life and when we do have problem, most likely it's connected to the demand of money, so it's better to be prepared.
1016  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: November 10, 2016, 01:23:41 PM
If at some point bitcoin could reach a price that will allow us to buy a house with it is very likely that the seller will just accept or bitcoin without the necessity to convert it to fiat money, besides you will face less fees.

I think by the time the State establishes a tax on transactions with Bitcoin
I don't see how could a tax on transaction been implemented since you could always be transferring your bitcoin to a different wallet and even if somehow that could be possible you could have your bitcoin in a hardware wallet and then pay whatever you want by giving the wallet itself without any transaction taking place at all.
There's no tax at all until we see it. The thing is when you are buying a house, the payment should be in fiat and there's no problem with that as even when the money is coming from bitcoin you can also sell your bitcoins for fiat.

What we are after here is the legality of the transaction and since only fiat is considered by the law as legal tender then we have to use it to pay and to honor for the deed of sale created.

You have to declare how you got this money, this is a basic thing, to avoid money laundry and things like that.

If you will buy something like that for sure you will be taxed.
here in our country the main exchangers only allowed 400k pesos for any transaction making sure that it will not be use for money laundering and its a law here that hold the exchange for sure if you going to buy a house there's a taxes involved but good thing if you can exchange your btc to buy a house for your future.
It's not actually a problem as you can make as many account as you are. You can use the accounts of your friends or family if your limit is done early for the year. That's a lot of money mate, I think you are making big money here in the crypto world.
1017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 10, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
I definitely gamble for fun. You simply cannot gamble for profit in the long run.... In the long run you'd always lose if you try to gamble for profit. That's why the house edge is there - it's to ensure that statistically only the house is able to win in the long run. You simply cannot cheat chance. So instead of going so serious about gambling and taking it as a means to earn money, just sit back and chill, and relax.
Good answer, we should do gamble for fun although we want to win money, with that aim in gambling even if we lose we can easily forget our loses and accept it as we understand that is the nature of gambling, we should not be stupid when it comes to gamble as stupid gambler loses big amount of money.
1018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 10, 2016, 01:12:34 PM
if i'm rich i will still gamble but just for fun, but the fact is people who rich will dont have time to gamble cause they spend their time for another stuff like built a new business or go for trip, maybe they only can gamble for a while and focus for new life
you are right. if the person has been addicted to gambling, even when he becomes rich, it will not stop to gambling. gambling is very pleasant, and if you become rich, I believe very much a boring day, and maybe you'll keep playing gambling
And I believe, the only way he can stop is when he become broke. Gambling addiction is s serious problem as you can lose your money in a instant, the money that you achieve by working hard for years or the money that you inherited from your parents if not properly manage in gambling will gone fast.
1019  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: November 10, 2016, 12:54:18 PM
I would not rely on other ways to make money other than working hard at a full time job.
That is the only true way to make a guaranteed stable incoming stream of money that is reliable.

well that is a very good way of dealing with this. best thing to do is to not be in a situation where you will be in desperate need in the first place. working and saving money would be a very good way so that when time comes that you really are in dire need, you won't have to look elsewhere as you'll your own savings to look to.

Yup if you have manage to save some part of your income regularly then this situation will never arise in your life and that saving can help you at the time of emergencies, and if you have saved enough money then you also need to beg for money from others and there is a full possibility that people won't help you at that point.
People do regret in the end, if only we know the future they we will prepare for that. As we experience being desperate for money, I hope we can learn lesson by our sad experience. Savings should be compulsory and not optional as it will solve the problem like we have experience.
1020  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: November 10, 2016, 12:46:50 PM
If you are planning to build a shop, first you need to know who your targets are. It should be in a city for example near at schools and along the road. Well there is no easy business especially on the start. So for me, having a real job would give you a steady income.
This is very good. I can use your idea on making my store near us. Im planning to build my bussiness near us. And This idea can help me build my own bussiness.Im planning to accept bitcoin to my products. To spread the idea of bitcoin here in my place

Apartment, parking areas and boarding house will be a very excellent business for me and especially in my country..these will give you a very good steady income. I will accept cash and bitcoin payments as well for the tenants.
That's a good plan and if you have an apartment in the city for sure many people will rent and you are just going to receive the rent regularly. Good plan but it requires a good capital, I guess you need to start saving now if you have a job (offline/online).
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