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1021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 17, 2014, 10:59:47 PM

I may not be as informed as the rest of you when it comes to URO but last time I thought when people pointed out anything fishy about the Australian GES, we were told that they have nothing to do with it. I thought we were told that the Hong Kong GES was the one who was doing the Urea contracts. So why would the Australian GES be ok to be used as proof?
 

I think what true asset was implying was GES Australia is not connected to the URO project at all, I don't think he was saying they are not the same company. This is why when someone called the Australian branch they told him to get in touch with the HK one because they aren't involved with it.

I addressed the report about GES Australia specifically because that is the report fudders are using to attack the project. Someone posted the GES HK business license info days ago which proves an entity over there as well.
Just trying to figure this out, so when people post things about GES AU they get called FUDders. How does proving the solvency of a company we were told has nothing to do with the project prove anything at all?

Please realize you just basically asked the same thing two times in a row.

The answer was already given, "FUDers" were trying to say that the AU branch was insolvent/bankrupt/delisted and use this as "FUD"- so solid posted the ASIC report showing the state of the AU branch. The AU branch is not involved directly- but since they were trying to use it to discredit the project, their discrediting had to be discredited...
1022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPERCOIN] Anonymous Wallet Live & PoS Superblocks >>>VOTE for MULTIPOOL! on: July 17, 2014, 05:24:06 AM


haha where do you get all these ridiculous pictures?
1023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RZR] Razor - Cutting Edge of Technology ☆[TOR Anon]☆ [No Premine] [Scrypt] on: July 17, 2014, 05:13:50 AM
That clears it up, good to hear. Thank you.
1024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RZR] Razor - Cutting Edge of Technology ☆[TOR Anon]☆ [No Premine] [Scrypt] on: July 17, 2014, 04:00:46 AM
Okay i dont have a twitter but there is something ive been wanting to ask about the the skyhook/Franko ATMs: They are tiny, they weigh 40lbs and are not anchored as far as I can see- how the hell do you keep somebody from stealing them? So I assume you are supposed to just keep them locked up in your house/business, but most ATMs provide utility and generate profits through their convenience of being accessible to the general public at anytime...
1025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 17, 2014, 01:00:59 AM
Here's a simple experiment- stop selling it and see if the buy offers start going up. If they can get it cheap, they'll buy it cheap. If no one is selling they have to up the ante. Cancel all your sell orders, and see what offers begin coming out on the buy order side. Spread this to everyone you know. then we'll know if those corporations which need this for their plan are buying up the coin supply. CANCEL ALL SELL ORDERS, AND DON'T SELL EVEN IF IT GOES TO 2-3-4-10X CURRENT PRICE. IF THE OFFERS STEADILY RISE IT WILL BE A GOOD INDICATOR OF DEMAND FROM BUYERS OTHER THAN THE CRYPTOTRADERS, BUT CAN ONLY BE DONE IF THE COMMUNITY GETS INVOLVED.

Yup, if urea purchasers are smart they will be trying to accumulate it as cheap as possible. Which might also explain why they aren't rushing to provide publicity/validation of the Uro because then the price will shoot up.
1026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 17, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
Question for the scambusters....How, exactly, can anyone make money "scamming" on a coin with zero premine, with a hashrate so high that even the biggest pools take hours to find a block, with 12 coins per block, and collecting 12500 at a kick into the scam wallets, at 50,000 usd per each wallet, when the market price has already peaked hugely, and is now depressed? so you're saying the developer is paying out 50k at a flop to convince you to buy the coin at a slightly higher rate than it sells for now? The pump was caused by greedy traders who attempt to manipulate the market, most of the activity on the market is just traders pushing around coins to make pennies. so where and how does the dev make the big money? How many times does he have to spend 50k to fill a wallet for the so called fake order before he gets the payout?

Yes, I've presented this argument as well and even Chang seems unable to reconcile this with his accusations of a scam.

I also don't understand how you think they stand to profit/benefit from this ordeal if it is a scam... there was no premine or IPO. How is it worth it for them to put their lives on the line for... what?

They're getting out today, that letters dated 6 months ago. I expect the original idea was to send a small order effectively for free then dump the 12500 but it's backfired.

Edit sorry they're saying they have 25000, I don't think it really matters as 12500 will dump it nothing.

There's his reply. Doesn't really address the point at all.. Funny how he says "they're saying they have 25000" when in fact the devs have never claimed to have any of these different balances of 12500 (there are now four separate addresses with 12500)- those would belong to the people interested in purchasing Urea, namely Rivaa.

1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Proof Of Transaction Cash Back for Sending & Recieving on: July 16, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Thank you everybody who has continued to support this coin! The concept behind this coin is too great to allow it to go to waste.
1028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LOL] LeagueCoin | X11 | PoS | E-Sport Betting Site GGWP.CO Launched! on: July 16, 2014, 07:25:11 PM
what is better now mineral or LOL?hahahhaha

why would you expect a similar thing not to happen to minerals?
1029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LOL] LeagueCoin | X11 | PoS | E-Sport Betting Site GGWP.CO Launched! on: July 16, 2014, 06:28:15 PM
Can't "proprietary content" be avoided? Why did they allow the tipbot in the first place?
1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LOL] LeagueCoin | X11 | PoS | E-Sport Betting Site GGWP.CO Launched! on: July 16, 2014, 06:24:05 PM
Wow this absolutely blows :/
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 16, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
I think the issue is what is in it for Rivaa to tell the world?

Nothing, but GES and The URO Foundation *need* URO to reach <>$300 value in order for the concept to work and they could do that by, not posting web 'news' announcements which are meaningless, but by posting copies of actual contractual evidence and the paperwork they would have to have for the shipment transit.

As I said, people who scoff at the idea of URO=1tonne of UREA, on the basis that they can't wrap their heads around commodities trading, are just ignorant about the components of how transactions would work for the businesses involved who are actually shipping physical goods and who would not at all be 'giving away' UREA at sub-market prices, as long as the coin value floor can rise to meet the required price.

That is why GES need to come up with the proof of their side of the deal actually having substance.

Their 'press' announcements given on the website and twitter are simply not acceptable proof for the market.


 They don't have to convince anyone here of anything, because no one here has enough money to matter. 

They have to convince people who buy urea in bulk, which is no one on bitcointalk.


True. So why is that this coin is marketed through these channels like everything else instead of the companies working with someone on a fiat-uro exchange right away. That would save a lot of trouble no? Except that way nobody could by in at $1 and make a huge gain off of this. Everything just does not smell right.

Dev explained why he came to bitcointalk on the google hangout- it's because miners are needed. no better place to find them.
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 16, 2014, 04:10:51 AM


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This is becoming a little distressing.. and this is only one address, one could easily use multiple addresses...

What concerns me the most is that a dev could buy into this project themselves with a huge amount, diluting other people's shares drastically while obtaining entirely free coins. Of course, this is possible with any IPO that is not a "proof-of-burn" type IPO.
1033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SYNC]X11|1,000 Coins| NiteSend-Decentralized Anon | PoS Interest Halving on: July 16, 2014, 03:13:42 AM
hello guys and girls..Smiley
i just check the price now.. and goes up
is there great news that cause the price up?

People on Twitter have said this coin is a good buy so people buy.

Some of them have seen what we have been working on for the past few months.

I believe only sovie have seen it here.

Oh nice, insider trading..
1034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 16, 2014, 02:09:53 AM


Yes, new coins are created when staking (some 2.5% per year). These new coins created as a reward for staking are actually a built-in inflation.


you can call it inflation, interest whatever you want.. its still a small incentive for people to hoard coins. thankfully not as big as other PoS coins. and obviously not big enough because mintpal still had more than 30% of the entire supply.

It is incentive to secure the network
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ on: July 16, 2014, 12:13:53 AM
There is a 60 btc deposit in the last minute, the presale is closed now!!!
@DEV, why there isn't a cap per investor? The price will be manipulated by the big investor.

yeah that is kind of disappointing, what percentage of the total IPO amount is that?
1036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RZR] Razor - Cutting Edge of Technology ☆[TOR Anon]☆ [No Premine] [Scrypt] on: July 15, 2014, 11:31:00 PM
haha i just said that and now all the 1.337 orders are gone  Roll Eyes
1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RZR] Razor - Cutting Edge of Technology ☆[TOR Anon]☆ [No Premine] [Scrypt] on: July 15, 2014, 11:29:27 PM
wtf is with the sells on bittrex... one sell wall that renews itself every-time it is touched, and behind that a bunch of 1.337 orders repeated over and over again...
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 15, 2014, 10:40:44 PM
This is the only URO thread?
the old one closed and this?

If you are actually interested in talking about URO, and I mean true conversation not accusations and name-calling, then go to the Freenode IRC #URO. It is usually pretty active in there.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 15, 2014, 10:05:44 PM

I meant the other thread, I don't think scambuster is deleting your posts there. Davis is allowed to delete anything he wants from here. Thanks for the insults, I'm not your enemy and I figured we could keep this humane but I guess not...
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 15, 2014, 09:54:16 PM
Chang please give it a rest here, you have an entire thread to yourself to speak your mind. If you don't want to keep receiving "spammy emails" then stop spamming this thread. He is the moderator and he is allowed to remove any message he wants to.
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