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I think BitInstant didn't do anything so terrible. Because everyone knows there never was a real extortion threat, BitInstant doesn't look bad for offering to help out in jest.
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We really need to sticky the OP. Expecting personal responsibility doesn't mean we condone criminal activity or shun police involvement in crimes.
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I know the 9th (Sunday) is the bet deadline....but what time and time zone? We need an official countdown.
Korea. It's in one of his posts in the bet thread. |
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Did this go through the court? Is this the first completed Bitcoin lawsuit?
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Must be a form of dev testing...it's going to gmaxwell's address, or so one would be led to believe  It could also be a really funny joke...Look where it came from... |
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Matthew -- to me, your post suggests you have insider knowledge...how else could you know that goat's actions could actually affect pirate paying back his debtors? I mean, there is no obvious reason pirate needs info to pay people back now that he didn't need before... Seems hard to connect the dots without knowing inside stuff...should i be disappointed in you?
Do you believe everything you see on the internet? Indeed not. I'm a physician -- I should hope I can do better Anyhow, you didn't address the issue...your post and your words seem to imply you know the inner workings of the pirate scheme. Is that true? Or are you simply assuming that, for some reason, Goat's refusal to give Pirate info he never needed before is going to result in your losing the bet...It sure riled you up... |
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Unfortunately, I've never known anyone who does drugs so I couldn't tell you. I'll take your word for it though.
i'm not sure what to make of this quote but if i may assume you're an adult who knows people, you might have been misled :/ He gets tricked a lot. Just ask about his relationship with JRO and bitscalper. Ask Chaang Noi why he asked several other people to take his money and bet against me for him and hide his identity all while telling everyone not to give their payment information to Pirateat40. I'm sure he's got a lovely explanation for fixing bets like the scummy fuck he is. Matthew -- to me, your post suggests you have insider knowledge...how else could you know that goat's actions could actually affect pirate paying back his debtors? I mean, there is no obvious reason pirate needs info to pay people back now that he didn't need before... Seems hard to connect the dots without knowing inside stuff...should i be disappointed in you? |
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What about you both answer ?
+1. Something smells rotten in Denmark... |
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i wrote an an iphone app to keep track of my offline addresses...see the link in my signature...
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Isn't the whole Romney extortion thing a joke? I mean, it's not real, correct?
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Phin, you're going off on tangents again. If you evidence of a connection between pirate and Zhou, can you please just post it instead of derailing your own thread with all of these tenuous connections to...something.
+11... |
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anyone notice the title of the thread? I don't see many responses to the plea for help...That said, just because we want Bitcoin to be decentralized and all that jazz, it doesn't mean we shouldn't get law enforcement involved when thefts occur. It's computer hacking or fraud at the very least.
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I feel like this community would speculate why an ant walks the way he walks if you were bored enough.
No point. We all know that every step taken by an ant is in some way, shape, or form related to a scam. |
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I might recommend you do this poll as: 1) Pre-2010 2) Pre-2011 3) Q1 2011 4) Q2 2011 5) Q3 2011 6) Q4 2011 7) Q1 2012  Q2 2012 9) Q3 2012 If you're going to go price specific it might be better to categorize by: 1) Pre $1 2) Post $1 but Pre $30 3) Post $30 but before January 2012 4) Since January 2012 but Pre Pirate bust 5) Post Pirate bust Well noted for another poll in a few months I think people remember events better than dates... |
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There is a long time between the beginning and the 2011 bubble....
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Hopefully the devs have a stake in Bitcoin from being early adopters...thus, they work to increase the value of their own coin. Also, it's not just devs that make Bitcoin valuable. Perhaps we should pay magicaltux, Charlie at bitinstant, coinabul, Casascius, Matthew, etc.
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In casinos, transactions over $10,000 are automatically are automatically reported to the feds.
i'm not American but how many casinos are in vegas? x $9,000 walk in buy chips, play a couple of games -doesnt matter if you win or lose- cashout $8,900 worth of chips go to next casino? tho the casions dont call themselves "mixer services" This whole AML stuff is a sham, doesn't catch the big players, they already successfully use banks, just another imposition on the little guy who probably wouldn't have a reason to launder money... I'm not quite sure how chips work in a casino, but, can one really walk up to the....uhh...check out counter and plop down $9k worth of plastic chips and get handed $9k cash, no questions asked? |
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the stupid feature of exchanges are instant withdrawals....why not keep everything in cold wallets and process btc withdrawls once a day...manually...
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My problem are the many people that were not vocal that maybe once before said "hrm.. ya it could be a ponzi" and are now coming out of the woodwork saying "oh ya see I told you!!! listen to me I always said that".
Not that I am god's gift to tracking 'team ponzi' but a lot of these people I have never heard of. It was always very clear where some people stood (like yourself) and the very vocal ones, the ones who stuck their necks out WAY before anything fell apart and did their own research/proof I have no issues with. It is the ones who seem to be jumping on the credibility train (micon) that really annoy me.
Perhaps I am being unfair.
No. Like many others who apparently either lack moderate reading comprehension skills or are self-deluded, etc., you're simply missing the point. The only reason I even mentioned that I had tagged the obvious ponzi scheme was to refute myrkul's insinuation that I had failed to recognize the scam and "invested." My pseudonymous persona's ego doesn't benefit from credit (which I don't seek) for seeing what is plainly a fraud. The point of my posts in this thread is to show how deep the corruption runs around here (theymos knowingly took part in the scheme and continues to facilitate an impressive array of chicaneries) and how illusory the notion of "reputation" has become. It amuses me (but does not surprise me) to see that pass-through operators continue posting as if they weren't profiting wildly from the scheme -- as if they are also just victims with no responsibility. Paybtc, burt, goat, starfish, and many others aren't fooling anyone with half a brain. It would delight me to see all responsible parties be made to pay for their activities and a measure of punative and restorative justice materialize. Maybe then future would-be scammers would think twice. +1. I think community leaders should step up and pressure those who gained on the loss of others to make restitution....in any way that doesn't let Matthew win the bet |
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Is this why you took part in pirate's ponzi scheme? Because you thought it would be fun? Did you "earn" any "interest" from it?
It was fun, and still is! I have several bets and other deals related to the final outcome, which I'm excited to see resolved (hopefully in my favor). Ponzi schemes are a much more fun way of gambling than Satoshi's Dice, that's for sure. I did win some BTC, which is rightfully mine. Pirateat40 is guilty of lying about the rules of the game, but the players are innocent. If a casino rigs a game, you wouldn't blame those players who made a profit (even if they may have guessed that the game was rigged) -- you blame the casino. I never promoted BS&T, and I posted several times that I thought it was a Ponzi. I won some BTC at this game...a little over BTC2. I had a good feeling it was a ponzi and will be nearly convinced it was if Matthew loses his bet (to be completely convinced, I'd need to look at a balance sheet and see incoming deposits being sent out as interest payment). I don't feel morally entitled to the BTC2 that I "earned" in "interest." I am grown up enough to see that when a story sounds too good to be true, it is. I had a decent hunch I was being lied to when I made my deposit, although the revolutionary nature of Bitcoin does blur the lines between plausible and crazy just enough to keep one second guessing oneself. I think it would be best for the community if those who profited on this scheme helped make restitution in some way...although I doubt anyone profited enough to make much of a dent in the losses. |
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