Yeah those monthly limits have always turned me away from sat isp's, plus the horrible ping times. I live in the boonies, but there is a small telco in the area that upgraded to DSL a few years before I moved there, its suprisingly good service for how mom and pop it is. Previously it was 28.8 in that area  . I just looked it up, looks like they put that excede sat up in Oct 11, not sure when they started rolling out the service, its very new for sure, and besides the growing pains of customer service and installer shortages, it seems to be going good so far, but I still hate monthly limits and 300ms ping times.. I'd give my left testicle for DSL. Reliable DSL, at least, since I know other rural folks who have pretty poor luck with it...slower than ISDN and non-functional a healthy percentage of the 365 days. I personally am way way to far from a CO which will support DSL for probably another decade. Even my land-line barely works for voice and all the planets need to be in alignment in order to get 28k POTS modem speeds for more than a few hours. We get about 2 trees/week (or drunk's and/or kid's cars and/or trucks) taking out whatever lines are not buried and at least one landslide/year getting those which are. It takes it's toll on infrastructure. The tweaker infestation has become bad around here for whatever reason. Bad economy mostly I suspect. I'm going to augment my 357 tweaker repellent with a 12ga pretty soon I think. Thankfully I installed an alarm system some months ago and it scared a few off at 4:00am a month after I did so. The upload speed of the satellite indicates that I can probably feasibly have a remote surveillance system which works and it would be fun to play around with. sorry for this OT discussion, but tvbcof, how far are you from sufficient connectivity? You can easily build cheap wifi link. 10 kilometers without amplification are possible (for example with a yagi antenna). I have a sat-link at my parents. The bandwidth is amazing (actually getting 10-20 mbit/s down when there's no snow on the dish), but hell, a 300ms latency kills all the fun, even for basic surfing tasks. tcp connections just take too long to get going. I've been thinking about using a persistent proxy connection to an outside server... |
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I Luv this market!!!  good lil market, yeeessss, come here, have a sausage!  |
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POLY.10.1 is now offered at 107% of face value. There's a bot that updates prices every 2 minutes.
that was fast! So the bot should be buying/selling? I see no asks. |
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I thought as much, I just wasn't sure, ty.
EDIT: HOLLY SHIT BATMAN WALL just appeared at $5.7 of 40k BTC
holy motherfucking shit, y'all! that's really sumth'n. I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but either way I think 40k BTC is something amazing to witness appear. to be honest, I wasn't sure myself. I was sincerely astonished as someone obviously having $200.000 on gox. On the other hand I might've well made a sarcastic remark like that about "wall-gasping". So I figured I just leave it stand in ambiguity... it worked |
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problem running: so I just installed https://github.com/downloads/etotheipi/BitcoinArmory/armory_0.77-python2.7-1_i386.deb onto a freshly installed ubuntu alternate 11.04. Installer said "package has bad quality", offered me to ignore and install anyway, which I did. It refuses to start ("python2.7 ArmoryQt.py") saying roughly (sorry, can't copy-paste, this is an "offline" machine): ERROR: C++ block utilities not available.
Make sure you have these 2 files:
CppBockUtils.py and
_CppBlockUtils.so
both the files are there (from where I try to start Armory) any ideas? EDIT: trying to run "python CppBlockUtils.py" reveals: ImportError: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version 'GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by ./_CppBlockUtils.so)
Do you have gcc installed?
GLIBCXX_3.4.15 is an object in libstdc++.so.6.0.16
'libstdc++.so.6.0.16' is part of gcc-4.6.x
molec@armory:/usr/share/armory$ gcc --version
gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu4) 4.5.2
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
molec@armory:/usr/share/armory$ readelf -Ws /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 | grep \ GLIBCXX
913: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.1
915: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.2
921: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.3
925: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.4
927: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.5
931: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.6
937: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.7
942: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.8
943: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.9
2533: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.10
2541: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.11
2544: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.12
2555: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.13
2560: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4.14
2823: 00000000 0 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT ABS GLIBCXX_3.4
fuck, only gcc 4.5.2 here ;( I used ubuntu 11.04? Is that not "fresh" enough? EDIT: added original problem description to top EDIT2: I copied a _CppBlockUtils.so from a 0.75-version I had compiled earlier on gentoo (gcc 4.4.4, libstdc++ 3.4.13) and that works. Maybe you should link to older libstdc++? version 3.4.15 seems pretty new. |
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I thought as much, I just wasn't sure, ty.
EDIT: HOLLY SHIT BATMAN WALL just appeared at $5.7 of 40k BTC
holy motherfucking shit, y'all! that's really sumth'n. |
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I'm not sure how indicative the already-placed orders are regarding orders that will be placed on the way up. Only a fraction of people put orders that far away from the current price. It's more like they decide ad-hoc to "sell now" or whatever the decision is. |
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Bitcoin: +12%
Gold: -4%
hey cypher, you've been complaining that people shouldn't take your prediction so damn short-termly... so if things turn around again mid-term, you'll look bad again and then you can't say "relax, this was a long-term outlook" that easily any more, because you will have been bragging on tiny fluctiations yourself with updates every second hour . I, for myself, wont call this anytime before 2013. |
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yeah, saw that one on zerohedge the other day...you know, I have had crisis fatigue for years now, but things rather seem to be coming to a head here "the titianic has hit the iceberg"... like this?  |
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First of all good Job! One of the best Bitcoin introductions i have seen! Similarly, there's no point in raising the ire of David Birch when he's actually doing service for bitcoin in this interview. He gave it some credibility. We don't need to convince him. We don't need to convince anyone. We just need to present the facts.
In the mean time, let's pick our fights.
I think David Birch makes an excellent Bitocoin antagonist. He has a good knowledge of the payments industry, looks "old enough" to be the grumpy old guy, and he does not dismiss it completely. i have also never hear him bitch about the whole "black market" thingie. What he will get soon is the whole point of Bitcoin is not that it is anonymous but pseudonymous and you have to work hard to use it anonymously. (purchase with cash/tor/laundry etc..) David is a great guy, and I've spoken to him on many occasions. His beliefs boil down to the same as most of us. He believes that we are at the end of a fiat era and government currencies. He believes Bitcoin is a FANTASTIC example and probably the largest adoption of a universal cross-border collective currency. The only difference is, he leaves the door open by saying Bitcoin may not be the final product rather its a work in progress. I know many of us believe this same thing, we dub it the 'Bitcoin 2.0' -Charlie In Prague he said something along the lines: "You guys need to be on the phone, if you're not on the phone, you go down.". I just remembered this. Hmm, did we achieve this goal sufficiently already with bitcoinspinner, blockchain.info wallet, electrum4a,... ? |
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Hatte letztens einen Anruf von der Sparkasse KölnBonn ob meine SEPA Überweisung an Gox tatsächlich geplant wäre. Sowas wäre "Routine" bei derartigen Bankgeschäften, dass die sich RÜckversichern.
Japp.. aber wie ich Geld in die Türkei, SüdAfrika etc verschickt habe war immer alles in Ordnung...jaja...
Ist jemand bei der GLS Bank? http://www.gls.de Und hat von dort mal überwiesen? Wenn es da auch so Geschichten geben würde, dann tippe ich auf eine Intervention/Blacklist etc. tiefer im Banksystem. Gibt's mit sicherheit. Macht Sinn für die Banken "fraud prevention" zu poolen, oder? |
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are those bought coins leaving the exchanges ?
how would this matter? |
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I think that the intrinsic market value of bitcoin now is 30 times as the end of May, 2011. The number of users is between 5-6 times as many as in May, 2011. and the currency system has Y possibly connections for doing business if there is X participants, Y=X(X-1)/2. If this is a reasonable way for indicating the value of an money system, and if X1=5~6X2, Then Y1 approximately 30 times as Y2, so that the intrinsic market value of bitcoin now is 30 times as the end of May, 2011.
(intrinsic market value of bitcoin does not automatically reflected by the trading market value)
This is one of many examples on display in this forum that shows why we do not determine the value of stuff by using central reasoning (by however well educated people), but by letting supply and demand determine it in a free market environment. |
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Awesome, the rally seems to be slowing down, the $6 wall tripled over the last 3 hours.
I'm sure we'll see it grow into the 30,000+ size in the coming days. I don't see the price moving beyond $6 for some time, and I still think there's a good chance we've already seen the 2012 high. have you been dancing with the bears again? |
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Owch $5.81, someone just sold like 10k btc?
to be expected |
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That scenario isnt unlikely. I wonder how we will change BTC to Cash if bank transfers and ATM witdrs get limited?
In that scenario you should expect to see websites like this flourish http://localbitcoins.com/ah, I was looking for a well-done site like this for some time now (tradebitcoins.com just doesn't cut it). localbitcoins.com seems to be populated quite well already. cool, thanks! |
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The EUR future is really up to speculation. I don't see a reason to call people "exceedingly stupid" based on speculations about it. I agree that Bitcoin was underrated after the main bubble, but that is simply because there was too little faith in Bitcoin at the time. The Euro situation was probably not too important then. This need not be the case right now.
I spent most my EUR (at the time, not much unfortunately) on Bitcoin and Silver in Q4/2011. "exceedingly stupid" back then? Probably not. "exceedingly stupid" to do it now? Only time will tell. |
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Wenn es zu langsam ist nutz eine online wallet .. Z.b mybitcointrade zahlungsverkehr ist fee los
using "ignore" for this google-translated spam ad EDIT: gutes online-wallet: blockchain.info, gutes light-wallet: electrum |
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Wie ich es momentan abschätze, werde ich das Tauschangebot aus privaten Gründen nicht mehr allzu lange anbieten können.
Ich habe eine Weile überlegt, ob ich das frühzeitig ankündigen sollte und habe mich jetzt entschieden das zu tun.
Ich wünsche mir sehr, dass mein Konzept kopiert wird.
Alles was man braucht (meine Grundlagen) sind eine kleine Wordpress-Installation, ein E-Mail-Konto, ein Postfach bei der Post und Zuverlässigkeit. Mit der Zeit sollte sich das Vertrauen der Community aufbauen.
(Alles wird gut.)
Na, dann trifft es sich ja super das ich gerade einen WIRKLICH anonymen Euro-4-BTC Tausch aufgemacht habe der noch dazu vollautomatisch läuft (link siehe Signatur) Und wer das ganze in einem anderen Land als DE oder in einer anderen Sprache anbieten will: Das komplette Script gibt es auch günstig zu kaufen (natürlich gegen BTC) Wieso keine Griechischen Banknoten (welche mit Y anfangen)  |
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