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10221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 16, 2016, 12:52:50 PM
Some games are only games of chance like dice. There is no skill involved in those types of games. Other games like poker require some skill. So it really depends on the types of games you are betting on.
i guess gambling always about games of chance no matter what kind game you play , dice , sportsbetting , poker etc any games always about chance and luck , skills not really help anybody it is just a variation.

but mostly believe a game like poker and spotsbetting required a skills which i personally still doubt bout it.

No doubt the sports betting and poker games need more knowledge to play. If you play these betting blindly, i am sure you will make your wallet empty. In sports betting you can follow experts suggestion is enough to do betting. But in a POker game, you should have skills or else you can not able to play this game. But here also we need the luck to win our bet.

are you sure about that, because i have never followed any of these experts also called tipsters for sports betting and i have a feeling that nobody gives tips about gambling without any kind of hidden agenda, i may be wrong but that is what i feel like about anyone who is providing such service, specially if they are doing it for free.
It's a very simple logic, if they are too confident with their bets and they call themselves as expert then why should they need to let people bet on their picks? Why not bet on their picks? Maybe the reality is, they are not betting in their own picks.
10222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: November 16, 2016, 12:22:17 PM
In my opinion gambling is only for your pleasure and even instant satisfaction you feel winning some amount. Over the time the player will always be the looser.The greater evil with gambling however is that it is highly addictive and may lead to a loss of largest amount this considered to lose when starting to play.
You are right, gambling is addicting and thats the problem. its fine to start playing with small amount only i prefer that too and what i usually do, then if you are lucky there is a possiblity your money will grow with amount you didnt expect.
but most of the time you will be burned out so maybe much better as well that you only have small amount to begin with
after being familiarize that's the time that you can add some if you think that you are lucky or if you have some strategy
to use in order for you win much bigger too.
That's actually advisable for every gambler here, we need to start with a small amount of bet as we are not experience enough in gambling, when betting with bigger amount and we have no control it will just make us frustrated and we do not want that to happen to us, we will surely gonna lose big money.
By starting with a small amount of money you will be able to minimize the risk of losing, sure you will lose as you are not an experience gambler yet but since the amount you put is just manageable you will continue to gamble until you will learn and you will gain experience. It's a step by step process actually.
10223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: November 16, 2016, 11:54:32 AM
Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.

There might be some casino games that is useless to analyse because the house edge will always be against you. To give an example, look at Baccarat. A quick google search will show you that the house has the winning odds of over 1% at all times making you a long term loser even if you get to "win" in some sessions. Another example would be Roulette where the house has a 2.7% edge.
Indeed people cannot use any analysis on a luck based games such as dice, roulette slots etc.
It will not provide you any changes to turn your bet result from lost to win.
Even in sportsbetting you use analysis to predict the match , always hard to earn profit in long run.
actually all games on gambling are based from our luck even you have good analysis but doesn't mean will increasing your winning chance and in my opinion analysis in gambling only makes people more confident to predict and facing the particular match or playing games but the results still depend from our luck



Yes you're right but analyzing the games before playing can give you some advantage but without assurance that you will win with it.

And it depends if you really want to win on a game you will do something like analyzing a game. This can be effective for sometime but sometimes won't.




And if you want to analyze games, do not play in gambling games that has a house edge, like dice and roulette. You have to play on a skilled based games like poker and sports betting, in sports betting you are not playing but at least have the skills to cap games.
10224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: November 16, 2016, 11:44:17 AM
Until now, people from mostly the poorer and developing countries were not part of the global community when it comes to places like e-bay or amazon, because almighty Paypal won't let them, but bitcoin have leveled the play ground and anyone with some coins can stop by to shop.

Until eBay or Amazon actually accept payment in Bitcoin, people are still limited.

Right now your only option would be to get a BTC credit card from a company like Bitpay or Xapo
https://cointelegraph.com/news/6-cards-battle-for-bitcoin-supremacy-bitcoin-debit-card-comparison-test
and use that to shop on Amazon.
Which means you are still incurring additional fees and being forced to use a third-party service.

Thats IF you can even find a way to convert local fiat currency to Bitcoin.
We need easier ways to convert fiat and more ways to actually spend BTC if the market is going to grow and make online shopping more accessible to people who can't use a service like paypal.
I have a different understanding on what you are saying, to be able to use that card you need to fun your account with your bitcoin, so for me it's mor like a debit card than a credit card. Please correct me if I am wrong..
10225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 16, 2016, 11:39:57 AM
I will suggest you for investing because Bitcoin prices started to recover, but if you want a high risk you can try to gamble,You can get money very fast but also very risky to lose all your money.


There's no need to worry even the price will fall because it will still comes back strong, remember that bitcoin is a strong currency and we are getting bigger and popular. My advise also, is while you are waiting for the price to increase, you might wanna consider putting your money in gambling sites bankroll.
You are suggesting Price Appreciation of Bitcoin in the way to earn from them, yet you suggest to put their Bitcoin in a gambling site's bank roll? Isn't that not right? As your savings you hold in your wallet will be out to the risk in a gambling site. I don't think that what you earn from a gambling site is worth the risk from losing all your savings from it.

It looks like he wants it to say that way, there are some gambling sites that are worth to invest your bitcoins.

You must just do some checking to them and while you are holding some bitcoins in your cold storage then you can just invest into their bankrolls.

Depending on how much you want to invest with them. But that's worth to invest.
I would recommend investing your money in a reputable gambling site, they are so profitable because the number of gamblers who are coming in are also increasing and since we know the house always wins, the more gamblers who will play the more profitable a gambling site it. You have to look at the opportunity.
10226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: November 16, 2016, 11:38:22 AM
If you are lucky you will make money easily but you need to learn the basic rule that never put your luck in troubles. That in simple words mean control on your greed and learn to appreciate if you win in early bets and take your wins away. Gambling is not easy in any form to make profit from it.
Let's hope it was easy, and for me when you are lucky you will only win in gambling temporarily but in the end you will still lose. I guess there's no easy way o win in gambling but it's easy to lose. If it's easy then we are all millionaire now and gambling sites are closing.
10227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the primary lessons you earn after you gamble? on: November 16, 2016, 11:30:19 AM
The lesson for me is, don't gamble! You will just lose your money! There is a great and tested reason why casinos are still here! The house never loses! It will always win against all the gamblers. A single gambler may win, but not even a tenth of them will against the house! Just don't do it! Just play for fun and not profits.
That's not a lesson but a prevention, you maybe are not enjoying in gambling anymore and when you do not want to gamble that means you have a very bad experience and it normally happen because you do not follow the advise of the many which is to gamble what you can afford to lose.
10228  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: November 16, 2016, 11:17:17 AM
I believe it is only bitcoin is my last chance to achieve my dream to become rich. You might ask me why bitcoin when bitcoin is so risky?

My simple answer is that, the bigger the risk the better the rewards and if early adopters were able to do it then it's possible and I can also do it.

I just have to trust myself and bitcoin that it will bring me fortune in the future.
Not just you, I have come across many people who are worshipping bitcoin as their hope for a bright future. They are simply believing in to bitcoin savings like bitcoin will get huge price appreciations in upcoming days.

I too do not discourage yourself, but I like to suggest you to start living from today itself. Save bitcoin also spend it and have better life.

How much you can profit holding bitcoin? 20x? like 14k after a decade or two being optimist?

You can bet on an altcoin and have this earnings in 2-3 years max... Bitcoin isn't the best coin to speculate anymore.

Previously, I was sure that Bitcoin is better. But conducting a comparative analysis began to realize that this is not so. There are many interesting alternatives coins with great potential
What alternative are you talking in particular, you can already tell which of the crypto currencies are more progressive and upon looking at the price and it's history no crypt currencies will beat bitcoin at the moment. You can still be rich with investment in bitcoin if you will start to invest now and hold.
10229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 16, 2016, 11:07:20 AM
It could be more better if you were doing like me by taking over 211.5 points for Oklahoma City Thunder vs Houston Rockets. It is offering similar odds and points may be above 215 points easily. Anyway it isn't bad pick by taking mainline on Houston Rockets @2 as well.
Well, there's a chance a game will go over because two teams have been playing great on their match up and I am pretty sure this game will be a competitive one, Thunder here is trying to break the losing streak so they will make a effort to win and it will be a close game and a high scoring game.
10230  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: November 16, 2016, 11:04:09 AM
Both things  are  important when you do  trading  because skills  is also  important  in able to execute trade  because  if you dont have  any  knowledge and skills  about trading  your  move  would  be useless and also  luck  will just  supply a little bit  because   if youre  lucky  enough  to  open an order on a good entry  point  and you do exit on the right  time then  youre  lucky enough because  its a guarantee profits for you.
But a skilled trader, does not need to rely on his luck to enter and to exit trades at right times.
Just his skills will help him to do so. In other words, skills will maximize the chances of being lucky. Knowledge and skills are the keys for a successful trading even luck has some minor role along with those keys.
Even me if I am skilled enough, I would not rely on luck what I need in trading is consistency and I believe only in being skillful will you can achieve that consistency, if I am lucky and skillful at the same time then that's a gift I should thank of as I will be making money regularly.
10231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: November 15, 2016, 01:01:50 PM
As a gambler chances are very little to turn your gambling activities into profitable but still there are ways which can do so. You can start giving free but open tips or promote some site as affiliate and send traffic to some site you can get nice share of profit as under commission category. That is the area where chances are really good but playing always bring mixed results overall you remain same or bad financially.
I agree with this and i think this is a safeway to have earnings and profitable for now and if you are lucky that you get a gambler that can stay long to gamble you can earn it as your passive income only will pay for traffic is your risk or hardwork for promoting it like SEO blogs it can help you to have a traffic and earn as passive income for ever.. this is i think profitable than playing your earnings and lose it in gambling casinos.
Yes you're right, using affiliates to promote on the site it will be a good passive profits. If the is very large blog traffic that would have made a

good profit. Or might make a gambling site, because if you can make a good gambling sites and can attract people that can make you earn a

lot of profit.

Affiliate marketing  to a  certain gambling site is also a good choice when you do intend to make   profits without  any risk  but  still  you would need seo skills and  marketing  techniques  because   referring or convincing someone  is  hard to do so. You  will surely   make  money  here  especially your referrals are  too active to  play on daily basis  then for  sure   profits  would  generate  in your account  but   playing on the gambling  site itself  is not  a profitable activity for long term.
Well, in order to earn a big amount on that, you need to be active inviting gamblers to sign up under your referral. I guess it's a hell of job, you need to be lucky as well so you can invite high rollers for bigger profit in your end.
10232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your favorite gambling games? on: November 15, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
As of favorite, soccer is to what I give status of my favorite game for gambling. I like many games and that is the reason I do frequently gambling with those too. Which are roulette,poker and blackjack they come at most highly liked games after sports betting. Soccer is best among all to make some money from gambling so far.

Yes indeed very popular sports betting a lot of people because in addition to bet we can also enjoy the game. I also highly favored sports

betting especially football and MMA, other than that I also favored online poker game. I think all the best games in gambling and should be

played, I never get bored playing such games.
Sports gambling could give you a good chance of winning as you will also enjoy by analyzing the game, however this is gambling and even how good are you in analyzing games but you will not believe that sports are rigged you will not win in the long run.
10233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 15, 2016, 12:49:31 PM

Its already wrong if you got into the point that you already placing your whole investment inside gambling it will affect our life and it wrecked everything the more we understand the risk the more we should assess our self lets make it just for having some fun and avoid being addicted.

If a gambler is foolishly giving all of his investment for betting I think that he is already addicted with gambling, I mean who is gonna foolishly bet all of his money on gambling that are risky and not worth your whole time and money right? but I think some people that are doing this are really in to gambling and already addicted to it!
Possibly, there's no room for foolish people in gambling as even though games are entertaining but when you lose your money that is not intended from gambling you won't feel the entertainment, rather you will be devastated and will regret your negligence towards a risky game called gambling.

That's the fact that when a person loses as he gambles he is blaming the game itself but not his own decision to gamble.

That is making gambling wrong for making a fool gambles by not accepting the risk that he may get as he gambles.

But in sum up, gambling is not wrong as it is a business for big tycoons and one of the biggest industry.

Definitely, If we play gambling in a wrong way, so we get a wrong result. As we all know that gambling is a game, and if we lose than people take it personally, and continuously they are starting bets and in the end, they are empty, and they blame to gambling, that gambling destroy them.
I want to ask them, we are kinds? And we don't know that which things not suit for us? and instead of that we know that we blame to gambling. Even, we know the real mean of gambling, and that is enjoyable thing. 
Well, that would probably be the result.. You cannot be play with negligence in gambling if you do not know the risk, you need to put in mind that the word gambling describes risk and I mean a lot of risk. Now, if you are not playing the right way it should be then you will suffer on the consequences of gambling.
10234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: November 15, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
Definitely you can use a small amount of money in gambling, that differs actually on the minimum amount of require bet in a certain gambling sites, in my sportsbook, the minimum bet is 0.001 BTC and for me that pretty small that everyone can afford.
10235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the primary lessons you earn after you gamble? on: November 15, 2016, 12:28:45 PM
There are a lot of lessons actually we can learn in gambling but the primary lesson we can learn is never gamble if you cannot afford what you can lose. For me, it's the most important thing every gambler should learn as when you do not follow it, it would result to negative outcome.
10236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 15, 2016, 12:17:35 PM
Yes, of course I would do gambling if I were rich.Because I can't live without gambling and I will gambling more without thinking about money.I wiil bet more big amount which I can afford to lose.And if I were too rich then I might open a casino business.I could earn from that also.

If gambling was already part of your life, as if you can't live without it, then I think you should still gamble, as much as possible do it in moderation... I do believe that if you are rich you should open up your own casino than betting on other gambling sites, that's practical and probably would earn you more money than losing...  Smiley
It's hard to consider that gambling will be part of our life, we cannot do that as it's very risky. If it's part of your life then you will not be rich for a long time as sooner you will lose all your money easy, there is a saying that gamblers loses in the long run and the house always wins.
10237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transactions - Slow OR Fast on: November 15, 2016, 12:14:28 PM
Bitcoin transactions is fast, only the confirmation of the payment in the blockchain is not that fast enough but it would be surely received by the receiver after 10-45 minutes of confirmation on the blockchain depending on the bitcoins that are being process there everyday. It is also possible that bitcoin would be accepted in all of the stores in the near future since bitcoin is the future money after all.
My qualification of a fast transaction is at least a one day processing and I have not experience in bitcoin transaction that it has lapse one day and I have not receive the bitcoins yet, surely bitcoin is fast compared to other processor like banks. We have to understand that we are worldwide and we can transact in minutes.
10238  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: November 15, 2016, 12:11:13 PM
There is a possibility that we can buy a house using bitcoin when we have great amount of investment because all we know that value of bitcoin is continuous increasing ang this will be more stronger digital currency in the near future.

It is possible to purchase real estate using Bitcoins through Bitpremier. Try their site:

https://www.bitpremier.com/

A lot of listings are available from various countries and regions. And Bitpremier is not the only one. There are a few other real estate agents out there, who accept BTC.
I think I do not have the luck in buying a house if ever the price of bitcoin will rise, my country is not on the list.. Maybe time will come in the future, my country will be listed and I am hoping I can transact with an owner residing in our country.. I just want to buy a home at my country..
10239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: November 15, 2016, 11:58:13 AM
no i do not thing that bitcoin can help poor countries because the poor countries have no facilities available to them, they cannot even trade bitcoin because they even cannot afford internet and cannot having good amount of money to buy bitcoin.
poor countries doesn't mean their people can't afford anything,inside poor countries also having classes such as high class(rich),middle class,and the poor
and even if the people can't even afford a computer and an internet,government can just make a computer + internet access for commercial in there,only if the government want to put an effort
they can afford stuff, but you bring up another very interesting point. there are different classes. it would be interesting to talk about which class uses bitcoin, which could benefit from it the most.   
In poor countries people lacks education and I mean majority of them, I live in 3rd world country and the unemployment rate is very high here, so with the advent of bitcoin I hope it can help them somehow but the big problem is you need to be literate to be able to understand the concept of bitcoin.
10240  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: November 15, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
Well if you want to have stable income online like making business.You should try to create gambling website but it cost more money when you build it but if you stabilize this it will make a good return of your investment in the future or if you have skills like programming you can apply in freelance company.

You can create any time of websites, you don't need to only focus your attention on gambling websites. In my country I can't have a gambling website, it against the law. You can have or build your skills to gain knowledge in order to transform it into money, this world is going so fast and you always need to adapt and be creative.
Not if you are making a website site that is base on bitcoin gambling, there's no law in bitcoin as we are not covered, our currency is not regulated so probably you do not have any liability to the government, your operation is not legal nor illegal. Just neutral, I guess.
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