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10261  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 11, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
Gold DOWN.  Bitcoin UP.

It sure got quiet here quick. Not at all surprising how some of the same methods used for gold price suppression have been aimed at Bitcoin and had the same result of knocking prices down; not through any issue with Bitcoin itself, but the surrounding infrastructure.

Misreality finally speaks up after a few hours of reprieve.  Well done!
10262  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 11, 2013, 09:27:05 AM

Also in regards to the avalon unit coming back online from a power outage, sometimes that does not happen. Rarely what could happen is the unit will be left in a zombie like state because the control board did not initialize properly. For me this happened once when there was a brownout.

would the control board respond to a ping in that situation from this device?  http://dataprobe.com/iboot-g2.php

Bear in mind that router board (which runs the cgminer software and management front end) is NOT the control board. What I mean by the control board is the Spart6 FPGA board that takes the instructions from the cgminer software running on the router board and coverts that to work batches for the ASICS. The control board is the one with all the "IDE like" cables running out of it and to the individual hashing modules. The control board does not respond to ping requests because it is not accessible via any network protocols as it's attached to the router board via USB. The router board responds to ping request and I'd imagine it would also respond to ping request even if the mining software is not running or in some sort of locked up or crashed state. If the router's OS was completely down or broken then yes it would not respond to ping requests. The power control devices - dataprobe - are of limited use in this scenario. They are still useful for when you want to quickly power cycle the machine for whatever reason.

It would be neat if they made a 2 socket version of the iBoot-G2. The reason for 2 is that ideally you'd want 2 Avalon units per 15 Amp circuit. The one with multiple power sockets has only 1 power in cable.

Edit: Ooops..seems there is a iBoot-G2+ which allows you to control up to 3 power outlets. Neat!

Yep, it is a neat device but you're stuck having to constantly ssh in to try and catch the rare zombie like condition.

What other solutions are there assuming they're kept off site?
10263  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 11, 2013, 03:15:58 AM

Also in regards to the avalon unit coming back online from a power outage, sometimes that does not happen. Rarely what could happen is the unit will be left in a zombie like state because the control board did not initialize properly. For me this happened once when there was a brownout.

would the control board respond to a ping in that situation from this device?  http://dataprobe.com/iboot-g2.php
10264  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 11, 2013, 03:09:30 AM
here's galambo:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141880.msg1536863#msg1536863
10265  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 11, 2013, 03:05:04 AM
well, there's definitely a difference of opinion around here in regards to UPS.

both galambo and Death & Taxes have gone on record against UPS with these things.  you'd have to hunt about the details though in other threads.

Well I think the main problem with putting a UPS behind these things is that they're absolute power consumption monsters and it takes one beefy ass UPS to feed them for a reasonable amount of time - enough to last the average blackout.

I was thinking of getting some 1440 or 1500VA units. Haven't pulled the trigger yet though. Where did galambo and Death & Taxes discuss this?

here's D&T's response when i asked him this in a pm:

"Getting a UPS capable of handling that kind of wattage is going to be expensive plus all UPS add load and inefficiency.  If it were me I wouldn't be considering a UPS. "

10266  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 11, 2013, 03:00:00 AM
well, there's definitely a difference of opinion around here in regards to UPS.

both galambo and Death & Taxes have gone on record against UPS with these things.  you'd have to hunt about the details though in other threads.
10267  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 11, 2013, 02:40:57 AM
i have a basic question.  when you plug the avalon in does it automatically boot up or is there a separate on/off power switch?

reason i ask is b/c i was wondering if it makes sense to buy one of these for power outages or brownouts:
http://dataprobe.com/iboot-g2.php

It uses an atx power supply from a computer. It has an on off switch. You flip it on, it turns on.

so if you had a power outage and the electricity came back on, sounds like the Avalon would just start back up on its own thus obviating the need for this unit?

http://dataprobe.com/iboot-g2.php
10268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: April 11, 2013, 02:32:10 AM
Update
10269  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: April 10, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
i have a basic question.  when you plug the avalon in does it automatically boot up or is there a separate on/off power switch?

reason i ask is b/c i was wondering if it makes sense to buy one of these for power outages or brownouts:
http://dataprobe.com/iboot-g2.php
10270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: April 10, 2013, 08:12:35 PM
BTFD
10271  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: April 10, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
Volatility
10272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: April 10, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
Chance
10273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Financial Risk Analytics-Subscription Service on: April 10, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Euro
10274  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-10 Bitcoin Should Get Ready for an Attack (Lew Rockwell.com) on: April 10, 2013, 04:06:51 PM
maybe someone built kingdoms around fiat money but they are currently loosing it and not because of bitcoin but because they printed too much fiat and took too much debt. Bitcoin actually can save them if they will use it correctly.

this is true.

but don't expect them to do the right thing until they've exhausted all the wrong options.
10275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 10, 2013, 12:25:28 PM
Gold DOWN.  Bitcoin UP.
10276  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-09 Bruce Schneier on: April 10, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
Hard to believe he hasn't looked at it given he's talked about it a few times.
10277  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-04-09 Blodget: Why Bitcoin Speculators Are Laughing at Bubble Callers on: April 10, 2013, 02:13:12 AM
I love this guy.
10278  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon users: bitcoind and slush's/generalfaults mining pool setup on: April 09, 2013, 11:54:52 PM
so in this part doesn't the username and password have to match that in the bitcoin.conf file?

"you should be able to point your miner at

http://YOURHOSTNAMEORIPADDRESS:3333

eg cgminer -o yourhostnameORIPADRESS:3333 -u guest -p guest

(the guest can bereplaced by any username/password you want)"
10279  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 09, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
we need an update  Cheesy
10280  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon users: bitcoind and slush's/generalfaults mining pool setup on: April 09, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
i'm reinstalling on new ssd.  when i try to build with:

Code:
make -f makefile.unix

i get this:

Code:
In file included from db.cpp:6:0:
db.h:14:20: fatal error: db_cxx.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/db.o] Error 1
cypher@server:~/git/bitcoin/src$

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