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10321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 13, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
LOL every gambling site has a provably fair system and you can verify manually your bet is fair or not. Are you aware of those? You can check some of it in some popular dice. The house edge is fair that's why everyone loose in a long run.

And I don't remember saying that to take advantage one must not play for a long run. I say that by investing in their bankroll somehow you can gain profit for a long term.

hehe I am referring to the physical casino not the online ones, sorry for the misunderstandings I have tried cloudbet and their system is fair enough for me,

I mean by playing for a long run whole day that will you lose a lot.

10322  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 13, 2015, 11:31:03 AM
Ha? Bakit naman magkakaroon ng negative trust kapag umaming Pinoy? Imposible iyon Chief.

Dahil sa Petition kaya tayo mainit. Dati sa Yobit lang talaga ang mainit. Matagal na yan di lang sa mga Pinoy pati sa ibang user. Ngayon marami nagtake advantage sa kabaitan ni secondstarde kaya ayun. Sayang talaga. Don't worry baka ibalik din sa dati ni Seconds iyong post count maximum.

hindi ko naman sinasabing magbibigay na ng negative feedback dahil pinoy ka! hindi naman natin maiiwasan yung pagkakamali ng iba nating kasama sabi nga nila masmaaalala nila yung ginawa nating mali kesa yung tama nating nagawa! diba?

edit: negative trust is pagtitiwala satin ng mga racist, and hindi dahil bibigayan tayo ng negative or nega points
10323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 13, 2015, 11:27:40 AM
Yeah it really help you to copy the house edge description hehe. Anyways nevermind.

House edge doesn't occur. It is always present at your first bet and all your actions are under the site's provably fair system.

But you may never know if the casino's house edge is fair enough in what you do! I mean the occurrence of house edge somewhat in the long run you play it. and sorry to say but I don't believe in casino's fair system, because casinos always have to profit that is their business and they will never lose in such business.

but as you say earlier  There are ways of taking advantage of the house edge
that is do not  play the game on a long run. Grin
10324  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 13, 2015, 11:17:42 AM

pero sample sakin, hindi ko agad nakita tong local thread natin nung bago plang ako dito sa forum na to sa posible din na yung ibang pinoy hindi pa nakikita tong local thread natin

posible yan kasi hindi naman nila naiintindihan yung pinag uusapan natin dito kaya akala nila kung ano ano lang yung pinopost natin na walang sense (kahit yung iba ganun nga Smiley )



may possibility din na madaming pinoy sa forum pero hindi nakikita yung thread na eto, pwede din na hindi nila inaamin na pinoy sila para maiwasan ang negative trust.

kagaya rin nga ng ibang country thread hindi nila maiintindihan pero counted parin post nila sa mga campaign dapat patas din naman ang tingin nila dito sa thread natin, dapat hindi lang tayo ang nakikita nila.
10325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 13, 2015, 11:07:45 AM

Google really help here lol.

There are ways of taking advantage of the house edge like I did in Moneypot. I invested in their bankroll. Profit are slow but at least it does have profit.

Yup! it really help me a lot lol.

Even if there is an house edge you can actually win a sum but don't always go on a long run gambling because that is when house edge occur, that is why You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run. Grin
10326  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Change of heart-in a good way on: October 13, 2015, 10:26:11 AM
The "state" pays for it because I am on disability; the electricity. They have done in the past and will contune to do so. I am so treated by that. I love my treats.

I hope that I get something OK with BOTH altcoin AND BTC done in different shifts, as well as renting out my rigs at occasion somewhere like miningrigs. Got to try

miningrigrentals sometime as "landlord" and not "renter". I thought of renting in the past, but from past conversations, I decided to just buy the damn mining gear and be done

with it. I had the money, so I figured Why Not. I thought bagholding various SHA256 coins and dumping some at times would be Ok, but somewhat risky.You do have to stay

on top of things to stay near as you can to profit. I like seeing what I can get with mining. May go and buy an Antminer S5 or something like that next time I "make my rounds".

The Antminer S3's were my first ones, outside of what I already had; the Antminer U3 and Gridseed. Another day, I might get some Scrypt miner. I find Antminers

be the trustiest, IMHO.

You are one lucky fellow! with that kind of treatment if I were you I will grab it then make an income out of mining bitcoin,
lesser expenses makes a great profit you can only see that in the long run. Grin

but are you trying to mine various coins? and how many machines are you planning to have? my word of advice is focus on the
most profitable ones, I am not familiar with SHA256 coins so my concern are is it OK if you mine by shifting or how will you probably do that?

Antminer S5 will be great so keep it up! but if you had the other ones, just focus in what you have now.
just goodluck with what you are doing. Grin
10327  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 13, 2015, 10:12:41 AM
This is obvious. Everybody DOES lose, because of the fact that there's a house edge and you're not infinitely wealthy. It's simple statistics, really.

How do you figure there is a house edge in poker?  Is poker gambling, are there professional players?  What about professional blackjack players?  There is even a house edge there.  Don't say it isn't possible because obviously it is.

It’s important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can’t win in gambling. You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run.
The House Edge assists the gambling provider as a commercial business to cover its costs of providing the game, paying for the staff, maintaining the casino or club etc. It also helps to turn the business a profit. Any profit the business makes from gambling comes from the money the gamblers pay into the game, whether it’s a poker machine, Keno, Blackjack or other game.

that is what house edge for that is the sad truth even if player is all high and mighty on blackjack! but you can gamble a little then if you got enough call it a day. just don't play for a long run!
10328  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 13, 2015, 09:16:52 AM
Pero marami din talaga na pinoy ang pasikat at pasaway kita at alam naman natin yan sa facebook palang yung iba ibinebenta mga free internet tricks na pinaghirapang tuklasin ng nakatak las para ibahagi ng libre sa kapwa pinoy dahil alam naman natin ang mahal ng internet sa pinas kahit sobrang bagal.

Isipin nating lahat dito kapag yung mga pasaway na yun sa facebook, symb at pinoyden ay nagdatingan dito lalo na sa facebook andaming pasaway dun sigurado dadaming pinoy dito sa forum ang makikinabang sa sig campaign pero Pero Sigurado Din Na Maglilipana lalo mga pasaway at syempre kalokohan na gagawin ng ilan para lang kumita lahat damay. Kumbaga yun ibang matitino at seryosong inaalam mga dapat malaman sa bitcoin, kawawa.

Ang punto hayaan natin silang magdatingan dito sa forum at sarili nilang paraan ng pagtuklas, hindi naman sa pinagdadamot, dahil siguro naman karamihan dito hindi nirefer ng kung sino o pinilit dito, karamihan naman siguro gaya ko nabasa lang kapag nagsesearch sa google ng about bitcoin, baka kasi magkaproblema tayo kapag dumami mga pasaway.

Yup tama ka brad kahit ako nakakasaksi ng mga pasaway nating kababayan tingin ko isang pinoy lang siguro yun gumawa nun
damay na talaga lahat, kahit naman siguro sa ibang bansa isa lang ang gumawa ng mali maaapektuhan na lahat lahat.
ganyan talaga boss kaya ang magandang gawin eh, hayaan na muna natin at siguraduhin nalang natin ang quality ng post,
at alamin muna ang topic bago mag post nanjan naman si pareng google para tumulong eh. masnatututo ako dahil dun eh. Grin
10329  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you agree people barrow money for gambling? on: October 13, 2015, 08:47:38 AM
Borrowing, Loaning, and Lending. in this circumsances when someone asked you about this? A lot of feelings and thoughts probably hit you all at once: an urge to be helpful to someone, concern about getting repaid, and possibly even questions about the laws regarding the loan.
There are certain things one must do to approve it when borrowing, loaning or lending

* If the one borrowing is personal or you known personally,

Trust is the most important aspect in everything you do without this He must file an application or a transaction paper that has a witness or filed by
an attorney so if he can't afford to pay for the said amount will have a punishment of increase of interest.

* If the borrower is online or loaning here in bitcointalk always look for the borrowers rank if it is newbie level do not make transaction, and see if he has positive trust or a negative trust indicate in him.

let me know if I miss anything, Because just by doing this we will prevent scammers,
It is always better to be safe than sorry.
10330  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 13, 2015, 07:16:54 AM
Haha konti lang Grin
Panget na din talaga image ng mga taga secondstrade sig campaign sa forum na to , kahit hindi lahat shitposters eh nadadamay na din kahit matino naman mag post ang iba dahil kapag may signature ka nila, may first impression na sila (yung mga nakakataas) na "shitposter to". Parang may label ka na "shitposter" kapag suot mo yung signature nila eh. Sino ba namang matutuwa nun?

Mabuti pa yung bit x campaign, iba yung label sa mga may signature nila. Kapag may bit x signature ka , ang first impression at "high quality poster to" Ang sarap siguro sa feeling nun kapag participant ka ng campaign n yun Grin

Try mo dito sa bitmixer, constructive ka naman siguro mag post at counted posts sa local Wink Good for busy people like me kasi 50 max posts lang per week at mataas ang rates with 0.0007 BTC per post.

hindi pa ako pwede jan sa Bitmixer siguro pagtaas nalang ng rank ko! tsaga tsaga muna ako dito sa campaign ko now, kahit may negative feed backs laban dito, dito parin ako medyo hustle maghanap ng post na makoconstruct eh pero kahit na may nagsabi na kahit off topic daw tinatanggap ng seconds iniiwasan ko parin sa off topic mostly mining and gambling ako. Cheesy
10331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 13, 2015, 06:23:48 AM
gambling itself is not wrong. totally depends on yours.

How is possible that gambling is not wrong when it was invented to take money without work? Only the work give money. Because only the work create value. So you give your work and then take the money fro the amount and quality of work you have given. The gambling want money to give money. Or better: want money to take money. This is the reason of existence of those. To earn your money.

Like he said gambling itself is not wrong. totally depends on you or the people who gamble,
Gambling is a difficult issue because if it is done in moderation and only on occasion, it is a waste of money,
but it is not necessarily evil. it is always depend on a person and money is totally the root of all evil!
10332  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 13, 2015, 05:44:29 AM
Sino po naglalaro ng farm satoshi dito mga boss? parang balak kong maglaro hehe Grin
10333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: October 12, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
ABOUT THE HOUSE EDGE
The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. This advantage results in an assured percentage return to the venue over time, and for you an assured percentage loss of what you bet.

It’s important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can’t win in gambling. You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run.



There is no way to overcome the house edge unless you invest in the casino instead of gambling.
However, people still gamble as it is additive.

Yup! most gamblers are addicted Because Gambling can stimulate the brain's reward system much like drugs such as alcohol can, leading to addiction.

that is why never take the long run because of house edge that can take sum little by little that you will not notice!
10334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: October 12, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
ABOUT THE HOUSE EDGE
The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. This advantage results in an assured percentage return to the venue over time, and for you an assured percentage loss of what you bet.

It’s important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can’t win in gambling. You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run.

10335  Economy / Gambling / Re: Where are you Gambling right Now !? on: October 12, 2015, 12:41:08 PM
I suggest Cloudbet There are many live deal for blackjack, Baccarat, and Roulette but most of it I like the 3D slots and
live sports betting, it has sign up bonus of 100% up to 5 BTC

See for your self! https://www.cloudbet.com/en/  Grin
10336  Economy / Gambling / Re: Are you trying to find topics on bitcointalk? on: October 12, 2015, 12:17:40 PM
If u found new gambling website and want to play on it first time. Will you try to find some topics on forum about this website before deposit money? Or no? If this website looking clear and you liked it?

I sometimes. But generally no..  Cool



Always makes research on new gambling sites before puting some sum of money in it,
it even helps to post it first on bitcointalk or make poll thread if the said website is legit
or ask questions on members who had experience in the said site. Grin goodluck
10337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 12, 2015, 11:53:17 AM

I dont agree with you. Its true that I loss a lot at first gambling, but sooner this become lesser and at last I recovered my loss now Im still on gambling site playing with it. So all my loss is recovered plus I get some profit again so it is not like you said profit in gambling is less than your loss. It depends on people how they are doing the gambling thing

Gambling is depend on peoples luck, what if that person has 0% percentage of luck! there is not a chance he can manage
to take up all his loss in just 1 day, what if hes not lucky now but will be 90% lucky tomorrow but didn't play that day and
plays the day that his luck meter turns to zero again!? that is why you will never know your luck if you don't try it!
people tend not to try gambling because of experience in the first time they try it!

but in a long run you will never know if you losses or you gain if you not gamble!
10338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: October 12, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
You can earn anything between $0 to the casino's bankroll.

What's LIKELY to happen is that you'll end up with zilch.

You can earn $0 if you stop there, but basically gambling is base on pure luck so you will never know
if your gonna lose or gain something from gambling. chances are always 50/50.
10339  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 12, 2015, 11:21:05 AM
Nope di tayo iiwas ng pagpost dito. Local thread natin ito, atin ito Smiley . Walang makakapigil sa atin magpost dito kahit sinong mod pa yan. Ang gagawin lang is magbuild up ng post ng mga account at wag mag pure local. Dito communication natin e saka iyong mga newbies na Pinoy dito pumupunta. Kung iiwas tayo di na natin sila maguguide gaya ng ginawa sa atin nung mga nagguide sa atin. Di naman talaga dapat gawin to kaya lang kasi daming paepal at mainit tayo. Akala mo mga mga perfect e. Kaysa patulan pakita natin good quality poster tayo Cheesy .

Ayun!  Cheesy nagpost na si boss harizen, tama yan, mali pala yung sinasabi ko na umiwas bawas bawasan pala, kailangan din nating tumulong sa mga newbie na nagpopost dito and palaganapin pa ang Bitcoin sa pinas may mga kakausapin pa ako na friends para magforum at matuto tungkol sa mining and bitcoin. Grin
10340  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pilipinas (Philippines) on: October 12, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Magkakalat kalat ng post dapat itry natin na constructive and wag kAyo mag post sa off topic, nanlulumo ako basahin yong mga post ng iba againts sa secondtrade.

Yup! sir tama yan, kaya iwas iwas muna ako dito baka last ko muna ito this day, lipat lipat muna
sa gambling and mining section Grin
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