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10361  Economy / Speculation / Re: touch down to 800$ is near on: December 21, 2016, 05:24:13 PM
its already reach $800 and its time to celebrate guys. now it's on $820 and i can say being a bitcoin user is really worth it. mostly if you are a pioneer because you've been part of the bitcoin family since then and we've see the price of bitcoin when its been drop down on its lowest part and being grow on its popularity. once i think that bitcoin would never touch the $700 barrier but right now its been breached that price. i think bitcoin is really powerful

Let's test first the stability of the price above $800. Yes celebrate since it's already a profit for those hodlers able to bought at below price to that but check out for possible scenarios of a big dump following a big dump. The good thing here is, with the price movement situation like this, likely no one wants to sold. If ever the resistance around the current price or let's say above $800 maintained after dealing in process of correction, then we can have a good start at starting of the year.

Let's take advantage of this price increase. Up for people to hold or bought more as part of increasing the quantity of their precious coins to feel much more the profit.
10362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why now many emerging new coin? on: December 21, 2016, 05:12:46 PM

in one month can almost simultaneously launching two coin, what do you think with these symptoms?

Success, good output, greeds, sure profit and earnings, want to experienced how far bitcoin reached is etc.

Some of the common reasons I saw based on my own preferences. Sometimes it's obvious that a newly launched coin will turned into shit one if there is something that prioritizes the possible earnings that investors can get rather than the technology behind that coin. There are even cryptos today promising a good returns in the near future if investors will put money there. Thinking they can surpass bitcoin, it's easy to attract new users to invest in that particular ICO since majority here is eyeing for the "profit".
10363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 20, 2016, 04:53:37 PM
Eventhough Milwaukee Bucks wrecked the Cleveland Cavaliers by a big 17 pts in their first meeting this season played at Bucks home, still sportsbooks put a big line for Bucks in Moneyline options tonight.

Don't know why. The game will be played on Bucks home again and for the Cavaliers, Kevin Love will be out of the game due to injury. I see Giannis Antetokounmpo will give problems again to the Cavaliers squad like he did in their first meeting and will able to sealed the game. But for the day after, the same game will be played again so I think revenge at Cavaliers at their home will happen.
10364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you gamble your (or your child's) school fund? on: December 20, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
Well, I would say that I did this back in 2014. My mother already deposited all the money I need to pay for school for the year and also some allowance for my daily needs. I gambled around half of it on NBA odds. I lost that half. So I lived on really cheap food and really avoided buying anything. I even tried to avoid buying things I need like books just to save money. Was a gruesome year for me, luckily I got through. Wouldn't do that again.

How bout you guys, would you do it?

As a former shit, good thing you did that and experienced lost. If you managed to get winnings out of your risky actions then definitely you will feel the experience of being a winner. And by that you will continue you gambling life even you loss big after that since you want to feel that winning experience again.

Sometimes we really need to experience worst before our heads bumped and realized what's the wise thing to do even we are into gambling.

P.S Back in my studying days, it's really hard to spend all my school funds into anything else other than the main purpose since I know how my parents worked hard for it.
10365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Is The Better Tagline? on: December 20, 2016, 04:10:59 PM
For the tagline OP mentioned, obviously the first one is directing straightly to the essence of bitcoin so I choose it.

But for me, I like to modify it to another one since bitcoin revolution tagline is kinda not appealing to anyone who will use your product for some of the purposes. Since your products are education based, focusing on programming and investing courses what about putting some nearby tags to bitcoin and the service of yours itself and not just as bitcoin on general.

E.g. "Bitcoin, Discover the Technology Behind This Cryptocurrency"
10366  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1x฿it.com - Most Competitive Sports฿ook & Casino | ฿est Odds & Wagering Options on: December 20, 2016, 03:35:25 PM
Nice you have some betting options for PBA match between Black Water Elite and Global Port Batang Pier since others sportsbooking site doesn't have (or will have before the game starts but at least they must have put it early).

Anyways it's just me that I can't see the Moneyline options for these match. Im eyeing on Black Water Elite on this one and expecting a fair odds since they are both equal in terms of current game performance this conference but I only sees Quarter ML, Total Points and Handicap options.
10367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: December 20, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
I have heard that bitcoin is not supported in some countries. But why ? Is it because bitcoin is risky ? Some countries even declare 6 months jail if her people use bitcoin. Is it fair ? I mined few cryptos and have left mining. It was fun and challenging too. But I never got any clear answer. What does my gpu actually do ? I pay electric bill, my room temperature goes high and I get paid. With actually no skill on pc hardware and software. Whole thing is still pretty unclear to me

Every country has different money policy so obviously we can see some different rules, regulations and legal status about how money works around on a certain country including fiats and especially with the new currency in a form of virtual one which is the cryptocurrency. Since most of the authorities are still in the process of learning much more about what cryptocurrency is, expect some legal actions pointing to that since bitcoin is regulated by no one meaning lots of associated risk are on hand if it's used, yes whether on legal and illegal one.

Is it fair? Then depends on people's view on it.
10368  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where profitable Cloud Mining? on: December 20, 2016, 02:29:49 PM
it's hard to find a profitable cloud mining services and I guess even hashnest or genesis-mining are not profitable as well and it would take a several months before you can get your ROI . better to just hold your coin if you have it on your wallet it is much profitable that dealing with cloud mining whether it is fake or not .

And just want to add that at the same time people will goes through a long period of time before reaching ROI, they have to invest a decent amount to feel the profits that will be made. Yes considered as "decent". Obviously we must make our long wait of time to be a worth one. As an example $100 earnings in 9 months is not worth of time. If that is the case even there is a legit cloudmining today then it's really not a wise way nowadays to choose that kind of method to earn bitcoin.

As suggested above, use that decent amount of money in playing in the world of bitcoin trading instead. It's far more worth to try method to earn bitcoin with associated risk since people themselves will execute all the moves in order to gain profits.
10369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 19, 2016, 10:50:52 AM

Which is correct most of the team still playing safe and and still not playing that much as everything will start when play off arrived favorite teams will show what they got when it is already near to a ring they will take every match seriouly as of now we just need to take advantage of the games with weak teams have a big odd and win the game.

Only applied to team that has already clinched the playoffs spot for higher chances but for below, let's say top 4 below it's important they always won the game.

No way other team can still consider as not playing that much this season. If people here are famililiar with "Games Behind" they will erase the fact the teams in season are not playing that much. That is important to sealed a spot and by order per conference. Teams tied at score are determined by their respective GB so it's important teams always won in every game they will played.
10370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Info needed about Signature & Avatar Campaign rewards on: December 19, 2016, 09:46:08 AM


 Oh, is this 50/50 chance or what? BTW what is ICO mean?

 Success of any coin makes by investors! I thought new coin success don by coin creation.

Actually the chance rate of both succesful and failure really can't be determined.

Success of coin depends on the acceptance of a people. No matter how clever the coin creator is, if people will not adopt or even give it a try then coin will turned to a shit one. The sad part, because of a failure of some new coins on ICO, people are being scammed since devs stopping their project and not pursuing to push it more. Investing on ICO is really a risky one so people needs to study the proposed development of and future plan of a certain alt and if it's really possible to achieved those listed in their respective fearless roadmap.
10371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where can I learn about altcoin? on: December 19, 2016, 09:33:45 AM
Hello everyone,
Suppose a person want to start a coin for one of his service (like for my PTC site i want to start and pay with my own coin) and I do not have any knowledge about running a coin then where I have to go to learn about all the terms and factors used in that. I want a complete tutorial about running an altcoin successfully?

So basically, you want to create your own cryptocurrency? I don't want to ruined your desire project but is it really a big deal if you will start a crypto for purpose like the one you stated? Prior to the development of your coin, think that in order for other people to use your PTC site, the coin must be popular and really has a good feedback for almost most of the people. A success run for a coin will really have a hard time to achieved.

Anyways you need some of this to acquire good currency.

- An own community forum. Yes a standalone one and forum like bitcointalk.org will just meant for advertising purposes but not as the main discussion.

- Must be mineable (at least)

- Acceptance by most of the people

I read PDF some time ago about full tutorial in starting, establishing and developing an altcoin. As of Im typing this, Im trying to locate the web where I saw that file .Since Im not that interested much in that kind of thing I didn't save it. Just want to note that Im not sure if it's "FULL" tutorial but the page consist of around 10 or something pages IIRC.
10372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 16, 2016, 04:14:35 AM

You have actually a point but i would like to disagree since its better to have investment rather than choosing gambling over it. Yes it has the chance of make winning big amounts but we all know that chances of lossing is much higher therefore we cant still guarantee. Hoping for big winnings dont work anytime.I would surely choose investment even if it would give me profits for long term atleast on constant basis.

And if that is the case, we will only choose those investment that can take us for more profits and can run in a long term. Somehow in the first place, we choose to invest in those assets that we already know the possible risk we will face.

Gambling is actually can considered as high risk investment since we use the word "gambling" where money can come and go. So why gamble for high risk if we can minimize it the wiser way. So choose only the nvestment which we really have knowledge of so that we can take the usual risk.
10373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 16, 2016, 02:56:35 AM

It's confirmed that Rose and Melo is out which makes the line move from -14.5 to 17.5, NY has no chance on this game. Two superstars are not playing while Warriors are very dangerous at home, I can see another big time win for the Warriors and might root the Knicks, the over is in Danger without good offense by the Knicks. I'll go with GS ML and Under Parlay.

Really you will put an amount on Golden State moneyline? Claiming on a faucet is way better for it but if you are big hoarder then you can put all your coins to feel and bag some profits lol. Anyways since you will make a parlay that is good and I see Under Points has high chance as well.

I think this will be a low scoring game since if GSW will able to freeze the momentum of Knicks in the early game and able to get a larger lead, Kerr will likely use more their bench players starting from second half.
10374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on Bitcoin price on: December 16, 2016, 01:24:18 AM
Hello Bitcoin lovers!

Where I can bet on BTC price? I don't mean "What will be BTC price by the end of 2016,2017 etc?" bets. I would like to bet on quick changes of BTC price (dollars).

Thank you!

I think you means is binary option trading, some site i know is secondstrade and sparkprofit(this service you can use for free, use a various pair like fiat, oil, gold. But some people said it's become scam).
If you have capability to analyze the price than earn profit, why not just do a trading, don't make an equality gambling and trading, because it's totally different.

I just have to say Sparkprofit and no it's not a scam. It's just that earnings there will really takes some time. But now there's an update, all points earned at Sparkprofit can be transferred to tiql.co. In that platform, people can earn dollars in an instant once the prediction is accurate. But here they have to used USD or TQ dollars (which came from Sparkprofit points) in able to execute trades.

Risk free since people can earned TQ dollars without spending right from their profit. Well this isn't a main opportunity to be consider, just an option for other people.
10375  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Questions for traders on: December 15, 2016, 11:59:31 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm getting to know better the market for cryptocurrency trading. In special, I'm really interested in understanding which are the biggest challenges/problems you face when trading. My intention is to study and analyze deeply these problems and evaluate potential solutions that will be valuable for traders, so it would be really great if I could get some feedback from you. So, basically, I have some few main questions but, please, feel free to provide any feedback you may want to.

1) Which cryptocurrencies do you trade?
2) Which exchanges do you usually work on?
3) Which strategies do you use in your trades? Does it involve Arbitrage trading? What's the most difficult part of it?


Thank you!

In terms of trading problems, I can't pointed it out since there are lots but actualyl I don't treated it as a problem since it's part of trading activity.

1) Bitcoin and other alts

2) Bitstamp = Bitcoin / Polonies, Crytopia, CCEX = other alts since my preferred coins are not present on the said site.

3) Common Strategies. The point is, you have to monitor the price closely "especially" in other alts since price volatility there is most active compare to bitcoin today.
10376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 15, 2016, 11:53:35 PM

Yeah imho gambling in real world help you to socializing with other people
When if you gambling online, not much you can do to socializing , a chatbox cannot really called as socializing i guess
That's what makes real world gambling better than just gambling online
The only advantage that online gambling have is about the flexibility when you can do gambling anytime anywhere.

Not just with socializing with the people, but you can use effectively your strategy in real life gambling. Good gambling games in real life are poker and any other card games. Yes, a bad card can win in real life gambling since actions are taken seriously by every gamblers on the table. This was proven many time in poker and pusoy (PH game).
I don't think any strategy can work in a games like roulette  no matter in real gambling world or online
As you may know those kind games is about luck, a game of chance, no way you can win with strategy
In a player vs player games like poker i still believe a strategy may have a big impact to the outcome especially in real world poker.

Yes any strategy won't work in a house edge games and same when playing in a real life casino games. Honestly only a rich people hooked in the gambling games in a physical casinos since they can afford the amount they are losing there. They don't do strategy but just placing a bet then go watching the result.

Strategy can only applied in strategy based games like sports betting and some of the card games. It's not an assurance that a person will win in those but strategy is good tool in order to increase the chances of winning in the said type of gambling games.
10377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: December 15, 2016, 11:45:12 PM

It's good no matter for short term or long term trading
The problem is on the different time zone, where the service provider may could give you the signal when you are offline
So you need to join the group conversation maybe, and usually there is something like that.

For that matter, the person who is seeking for some suggested trading move by those group will have to adjust and obviously help themselves to cope up with the latest alerts. Since they will rely on the suggestions of those experienced traders, always make it up to the point that they will follow the trend.

As an option, people can also make some price range alerts which they will think that panic is on process and happening now by using some apps that has a price alerts alarm. Let's say the price is sitting around $700, make some alerts when price hits < $750 and > $650. That kind of price range can be considered as some price rally is happening.
Yeah my concern is only on how they will never learn about the real trading if they keep doing that
Using alert apps doesn't much help i think , as i have done something like that long time ago, not work
You just need to be more often monitoring the charts and news instead doing that.


That is not the picture I want to show and it's clear. It's not meant to help the trades on a whole phase of their trading activity.

Like I said, it's an OPTION for people when they are offline or having such activities the moment when there is a panic movement that is happening in bitcoin price. Looks on how I range the price alerts, it's almost $50 and that can be consider as a big chance when there is a panic. How can reading news will help the monitoring? I don't believe in news since market price is based on people response.
10378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 15, 2016, 11:33:41 PM

That is just right without their superstars, they are not the warriors team who has a good 2nd unit. Definitely, the Memphis Grizzlies will take their revenge after a big loss at Cleveland. They will take this seriously, mark my words better stay away from this game. There's plenty of games that you can find value, like the Boston playing with Spurs. Check the line, you might like the Spurs here.

Even Warriors today doesn't have a good second unit. No offense. Try to check the stats since the season begins. If Lakers is still on healthy status today, they are currently the one holding the strongest second unit in this season surpassing the GSW bench in the first phase of this season.

Anyways : Cleveland Cavaliers 85 Memphis Grizzlies 93

Still a close fight even without the CAVS superstars at front row. And by looking at the bench stats, it's impressive.

Yeah lol.. Last year Warriors bench was decent but this year with Durant in the team they had to sacrifice some of their bench strength. Their bench is below average, to say the least. Lakers do have a good bench lets see if they can keep their main players to push themselves into playoffs. They r having a lot of trouble keeping their players healthy. Russell n Young  keep getting injured. Lets see how it goes.

Yes also some part of the strong bench unit of GSW are being traded in various teams to make room for Kevin Durant. So no, I didn't see GSW bench now as a strong one compare last year where they can able to beat some teams even without superstars on the floow.

Really feel down for the Lakers. They should have a good record if injuries doesn't kill their starters. They have also a good bench but now those bench are the one taking the starters role and Luke Walton really having a hard time to test our their strategy more effectively.

Does anyone see the Knicks beating up the GSWarriors tonight?
Want to put a little bit on it for this big time risk.  Embarrassed

It has chance but I can't see it since it's too far lol.
10379  Economy / Gambling / Re: To all gambling sites. Please make play money games on: December 15, 2016, 11:13:36 PM
One thing I have not seen in many bitcoin gambling sites is the use of play money to let users try out their games first. Play money is a must if you want to attract users because most of us do not have the disposable income available at all times. Sometimes we only want to play for fun without the risk of losing anything.

Please consider this because it will also be good for you because your site will be discussed more in the forum.

It's a good option but there are already gambling sites did that but still not succesful in getting more gamblers in their site.

And I see if they will put some play money there, winnings is also play one and not a real money. It's just for testing how the gambling game works. I think a continous claim in faucet is better like 500 satohis every hour or something like that and not just because you can claim it whenever a gambler's balance is depleted. Of course it has some terms applied to prevent abuse.
10380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 15, 2016, 10:56:21 PM

Yeah imho gambling in real world help you to socializing with other people
When if you gambling online, not much you can do to socializing , a chatbox cannot really called as socializing i guess
That's what makes real world gambling better than just gambling online
The only advantage that online gambling have is about the flexibility when you can do gambling anytime anywhere.

Not just with socializing with the people, but you can use effectively your strategy in real life gambling. Good gambling games in real life are poker and any other card games. Yes, a bad card can win in real life gambling since actions are taken seriously by every gamblers on the table. This was proven many time in poker and pusoy (PH game).

The problem of casino bonuses is you need to rollover the money several times and sometimes you need to play specific games in a specific way in order to withdraw your money if you are lucky enough to win. 

Well it's a common practice in a gambling site since owners should have give their customers a challenge before cashing out big. The main concern here is, gambling owners must modify the waiger requirement that is near the reality since sometimes the requirements needed is really far from happening and will really takes time.
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