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1041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 18, 2023, 07:18:32 PM
~snip
I'm really interested to see what happens with City now - and what will happen with Chelsea down the line.
City has been charged with 115 breaches earlier this season.

they knew how to word it, and it does not effect City or Chelsea case
basically, Everton is punished for overspending 19,7 milion on new Stadium facility, not on players

since City and Chelsea only bought players, their cases are now different  Wink
FFP is a joke and every case just confirms it. No way Chelsea, City, Barca and PSG did not break FFP and nobody is touching them because they are big and have good lawyers. But you have to punish some smaller club here in there just to justify the existence and pay checks.

If you ask me I believe half of the clubs in every big league is guilty and could be charged with something with exception of Bundesliga maybe. Seems like Germans learned their lesson and now have the league and clubs on healthy foundations.
1042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 18, 2023, 10:55:14 AM
Although we do have one very nice tax law concerning cryptos and that is if you hold your crypto > 12 months, whatever the gain is that you make afterwards when you sell is 0% tax.
Now we are going a bit of topic but hopefully nobody will mind. We have same law in Croatia, it is just 2 years and not 1. Only problem with that law is that it only helps you if you have somewhat clean transaction history. You need to be able to show that you are selling same BTC you bought 2 years ago, not so easy for most of us. For me that only works for small part of my portfolio, where I have BTC I bought in local company with receipt and everything and I left it on that same wallet all the time. Everything else is still sort of grey area and I am not sure how it would get handled.
1043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 18, 2023, 10:23:42 AM
Since when has that been established in Croatia?
That first 5% from every stake was here as long as I remember so at least 20-25 years. This was manageable since our bookies generally have a bit higher odds then usual to offset that. That extra tax on winnings came a bit later, not sure when but maybe 10years ago? That was the time when I started to look for other options. Problem is it is not allowed to use sites like bet365 here and you can be in problems if you pay out large winnings. Crypto bookies were my saviors Smiley
1044  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 18, 2023, 10:02:51 AM
~snip
I u zadnjoj rečenici piše i Federer je sa mnom Grin To je onako da bude još uvjerljivije. Reci brate gdje da šaljemo pare da vratimo kući tebe i Rogera dobrog.

mislim da nisu u najboljim odnosima, pa ako ne ranije, mozda bi me to navelo na sumnju na nesto nije u redu da Nole bas od mene zajmi 200 EUR
ali sta reci, na svasta su prevaranti spremni, a ima i naivnog naroda

To je stara fora sa nogometašima, tamo je malo lakše bilo za povjerovati jer su izbrali brazilce skrone partijanju. Javlja se Richarlison nakon utamice repke i kaže da mu treba lova da se vrati u klub i dodaje i Neymar je tu sa mnom. Onda se Neymar ubacuje u razgovor i pozdravlja te s nekim "cool" sranjem u stilu, What's up brother, Neymar here.

Isprika je ista party neki, izgubili novčanike i sve, osim izgleda mobitela di imaju samo moj kontakt  Grin Sta je i logično jer i ja da sam u nevolji bi prvo njih zvao.
1045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 18, 2023, 09:54:49 AM
Any good free tennis streaming platform? My source only stream selected fixtures.
I am watching on my local bookie supersport.hr. I don't think it will help you though since I believe they are geo fixed, if you want to go trough the hassle and install VPN that has Croatia and you manage to register. Let me know and I will happily sponsor your account with few EUR. You need to have balance to be able to watch the games but you don't have to bet on any of them. They are our best bookie but I stopped using them due to high taxes on winnings in Croatia. No way to beat the bookie when they take 5% of every stake and extra 10% of every win. And that is only for smallest amounts up 100EUR, after that it gets to 15-30%.
1046  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 17, 2023, 06:05:58 PM
I'm pleased we didn't sign Urgate because the guy has no respect and calling De Paul a dick sucker warrants more than a 10-game suspension. The Uruguay national team players has a long history of abuse, disrespect to opponent players.
You played football? I don't know how it is some civilized countries but I hear stuff like that and worse almost on weekly basis Smiley And I am thinking South Americans are even worse. Bear in mind that Argentina squad is one of the "dirtiest" out there. So I don't exactly understand why this incident gets that much coverage. Is dick sucker so much worse than "hijo de puta"? Which is like good day there and said almost every time some decision is questionable.
1047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 17, 2023, 04:32:32 PM
You know what I learnt today? Dejan Kulusevski is... Swedish!

I literally thought I was alone on this new knowledge, I had to doublecheck if it was the same Dejan Kulusevski, I don't know I didn't know for all this while, was this is first international cap ?

Just checked and it's 18 caps... stretching back to last EURO..! So I'm really surprised I didn't know it too, I really rate him as a Spurs player, just always assumed he was Balkan from his name, and also I do follow results, just never really paid attention to player names until his popped out last night.
Really guys, I expect more from sports fanatics Smiley I knew he was Swedish while he was still playing in Parma, I believe on loan from Juve. He is younger than he looks, but he is playing from Sweden since begging, passed all their youth selection, after he decided to play for them instead of Macedonia. I think there was some involvement from Ibrahimovic there or maybe just the press doing its thing.
1048  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 17, 2023, 04:26:01 PM
i još popušit priču da pričaš sa direktorom kompanije. 
Meni je to najnevjerojatniji dio priče, možda zato šta sam se bavio prodajom dobar dio života. Ajde probaj doći do direktora neke firme s preko 20 ljudi bez da ti je netko otvorio vrata. To znaju biti mjeseci posla i hrpa poslanih mailova i telefonskih poziva dok preskačeš stepenice da bi samo dobio priliku pričati s bajom.

1049  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: November 17, 2023, 04:14:13 PM
Haaland injured again! (Just kidding  Smiley City players always seem to get minor injuries at this time of the year and are usually back by the end of the international break.)

Enjoy the break!
There is a name for that - it is called, rather unimaginative - international break injuries. In other words players using the break to take care of their minor injuries which wouldn't stop them from playing if it was regular club game.

I find myself bored during international break, have absolutely no patience to watch that kind of football, good thing we have a nice tennis and snooker tournaments going on.
1050  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: November 16, 2023, 06:47:25 PM
Što je najgore od svega, u tweetu piše da je ovo korisnik koji se razumije u internet sigurnost i zna kako posupati sa privatnim ključevima. A pri tome je kontaktirao lažnu Twitter korisničku podršku umjesto da je to uradio preko zvanične stranice. Vjerovao je da priča sa tehničkim direktorom kompanije koji mu se osobno javio da mu pomogne. A onda je ključeve ubacio u phishing stranicu i dao scammeru sve što mu je potrebno da mu ukrade kripto. 

Taj se razume u internet sigurnost isto kao sto mu se javio tehnicki direktor Ledgera, a i ocigledno da ne zna kako se postupa sa PK inace ih ne bi delio tek tako.
Inace sam fasciniran likovima koji vrebaju ovakve slucajeve i brzo se prilagode da iscede sta se moze.

Da pošalješ poruku korisničkoj podršci i javi ti se tehnički direktor  Grin To je red flag samo takav, puno puta sam koristio korisničku podršku u kriptu i ako ti se ne javi neki bezveznjak koji ne može pomoći skoro sa ničime dajem ruku u vatru da je prevara.

Pravi stručnjak za sigurnost u svakom slučaju. Mogao je usput poslati i preslike dokumenata i brojeve kartica nek se nađe.
1051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 16, 2023, 09:58:50 AM
I noticed that the spreadsheet's snooker question area is yellow. I hope we are not planning to cancel the question because Ronnie O'Sullivan was in the competition until yesterday morning and there was plenty of time for anyone who did research before entering answers to use the VAR. In case there is any doubt, the question remains legitimate.

The Cro2 duo will decide, but I think that this question should stay void. O'Reilly gave up before the competition started and that means he didn't even get to play the group stage of the competition. For me it's all the same because both me and buwaytress answered that he will pass the semi final. Buwaytress answered that he will reach the final and I answered that he will defend the title.

No, he was in the competition until the final minute, and the same thing happened in season 2 when he withdrew from the competition and those of us who got the information used VAR (I was one of them) and the question wasn't void, so what's different this time? Questions like this should benefit those who care about each of the questions.

Tsitsi also withdrew so are we going to void the question for those who picked him?

We already have the Hungary question hanging, the snooker question hanging and potentially the tennis question so what's left to play for?

Just my 0.005 cent.
You guys are not reading the thread. Snooker is already void, mostly because it was made public here before the deadline and that forced our hand a bit. Browse a little and you will find couple of my posts on that topic. In short it is not fair to give a 100% correct answer few hours before the deadline.

Tennis question stands for sure since Tsitsi played one whole match and question is worded in a way that makes it full proof even if we have multiple forfeits. We also have that in the rules.

I don't expect problem with Hungary game but I also wrote about that few posts above.
1052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 16, 2023, 07:10:17 AM
Guys I have an interesting question regarding our rules because maybe it becomes relevant one day and I think is not precisely defined or covered with the rules we have in place.

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Forfeits in sports like Tennis or loses due to technical problems in eSports are counted as regular ML wins.

How would the game between Bulgaria and Hungary have been evaluated if it had become true that it doesn't take place because Bulgaria's stadium (that was originally planned as the venue) was a threat to human lives for technical reasons? In some articles it says that the game is about to be evaluated as 3-0 for Hungary. They now found an alternative venue, but what would have been the implications for our BSFL picks? As it was a high risk game, someone could argue that they took into account the game being high risk and therefore had a cancellation and a 3-0 for Hungary in the back of their minds, hence went with a -1.5 handicap win.
Football is not individual sport, things like this almost never happen. We are evaluating them on a case to case basis with info we have at that moment. When stuff like that happens usually there isn't an immediate ruling about points. Game gets delayed for whatever reason usual consequences are:
1. Game is played later that day or in next few days - we wait for result and award points
2. Game is postponed indefinitely - question is void
3. Game is stopped at 70 minutes and result proclaimed as valid - we count it as valid as well

I don't think your case ever happened. If it was the case, game would be postponed and new date would be assigned. I give it 1% for 3:0 for Hungary and even if that happened I belive it would come as announcement much later. Weeks after we void the question.

Hope that answers your question. This is a community project, not a multi-billion casino/sportsbook that has to cover every single case imaginable.

We do our best to cover as much as possible but more than half of players can't even be bothered to read first 4 posts. Or post answers on time. In our mind, getting late with answers is the number one issue and has much bigger impact on competition than one question per season that maybe gets voided. That sends a wrong message and could possibly break the good thing we have going on here. Rewards will not grow if we don't have more engaged players and we don't want to babysit players and tell them 5 times to submit their answers, that is not fair for engaged players. And if there isn't growth, there isn't progress and soon comes stagnation and then decay.
1053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: November 15, 2023, 06:51:59 AM
Halaand and Salah's masterpiece saves the gameweek.

You are very lucky to have Salah and Haaland on your team. Next GW will be both players against each other.
That is not luck, that is just playing the game in most efficient way. If you asked almost anyone which 2 players will have most points in this season, you would get Haaland and Salah as answer.

They are both in my team unless they get injured for long time. Also Salah will leave my team temporarily during AFCON. Those are just some things I will never compromise about.
1054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 15, 2023, 06:47:55 AM
Tennis is a highly unpredictable sport, and that's why betting for handicap 1.5 is always the best market option on these men. Sinner is currently running Djokovic down from the left and right hahah I'm glad I chose Djokovic handicap 1.5 on my ticket since I'm fine with the second set win.
Sinner is playing in great form and I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the tournament here. I choose him to past the group and I was very close to choose him as a winner but went with more safe route just to cover myself.

Had Sinner to win one set yesterday which passed nicely and also had him to win 2:0 which had enormous value but no luck here in the end.



How many chances should DireWolfM14 actually get? This is the fourth time he has not sent his answers. I don't know if he just forgot the deadline or if he is no longer motivated, but it might be a bit unfair to the others in div 3b if he only answers the questions only sometimes?
He is already out. Just not added to the tables since we wanted to see if we will get someone new to fill his space. We wrote about it here and I even mentioned it in my article on Sportsbet. Quoting from that one since it is easier to find
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Our newest addition Hhampuz has an easy welcome to the league and 3:0 win against team DireWolfM14 which is expelled after missing all the deadlines, logistics problems proved to be downfall of this team.
1055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 14, 2023, 07:15:02 PM
With Var having a limit, might aswel have a table of all users that have used it to avoid going over it(3 limit) Cool
That is why we have those 4 posts in the begging of the thread. To have all the important stuff at one place. Whoever wants to know all about competition should read trough them first. It is a lot to read but it covers almost everything Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438071.msg61709289#msg61709289
Here are your penalty points and VAR used. It is always updated by me at the moment when I update the results for the round. cryptofrka will enter on it on Sunday.
1056  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 14, 2023, 06:36:43 PM
Wait... Didn't we suppose to give four players that will get to the semi finals and the winner? The question literally says "name 4 players"? Or did you just do your mafia stuff here with only two semi finalists? Tongue
He is so sure in his answer that he is giving his opponent handicap. Literally saying 3 points in this question is enough for me  Grin
1057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 14, 2023, 05:39:29 PM
Ok so there is no VAR needed for anyone who said he is going to defend the title or something, right? If he had withdrawn shortly before his match started, what would the ruling have been then (for example, if he wouldn't have been replaced, if that is possible)?

I am just asking because I wonder whether our rule set is 100% precise here? I would have probably missed this info to be honest if it wasn't for it to be shared here. Wink
Depends on how the question is written. But if Jinetics did not post here we would let it stand probably and correct answer would be Group Stage.
We have this in rules:
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Forfeits in sports like Tennis or loses due to technical problems in eSports are counted as regular ML wins.
which sort of covers it.

When Jinetics wrote about it here it would be really unfair to count it and correct answer would depend on reading this thread. That is why I voided it immediately. We try to minimize situations like this but they happen and then we try to make a ruling that is most fair for the league as whole. Also another reason to not discuss questions before the deadline passed. I always wait with my opinions in order to not influence other members.

We don't have a habit of posting trick questions but it is possible we slip one here and there. For example we know Haaland is probably injured and we could ask how many goals he will score.
1058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 14, 2023, 04:06:39 PM
Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled.  Grin
Ronnie withdrew due to mental fatigue. Ah well the question is void and and we have only 9 questions in this round, only fair option now that you mentioned it here. You could have kept quit and chosen group exit and then see what would be our decision after we read the news  Grin

https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/champion-of-champions/2023-2024/ronnie-o-sullivan-drained-and-stressed-snooker-star-withdraws-from-champion-of-champions-title-defen_sto9882659/story.shtml

Lmao damn your right, but I had submitted answer already which was for Ronnie to lose (group exit  Grin) so I might have been on to something there.
It would have ended void probably anyway. I have the same group exit answer and if it is 50:50 we always make an ruling in a way that doesn't benefit us.


New article is up, so if you are interested give it a read:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/news/bitcointalk-sports-fanatics-league-season-3-round-4-recap
1059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 14, 2023, 03:29:49 PM
Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled.  Grin
Ronnie withdrew due to mental fatigue. Ah well the question is void and and we have only 9 questions in this round, only fair option now that you mentioned it here. You could have kept quit and chosen group exit and then see what would be our decision after we read the news  Grin

https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/champion-of-champions/2023-2024/ronnie-o-sullivan-drained-and-stressed-snooker-star-withdraws-from-champion-of-champions-title-defen_sto9882659/story.shtml
1060  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: November 14, 2023, 07:30:28 AM
Trofo, how come there's no ATP finals on the ultimatetennisstatistics website? Is it because it's a group format rather than a "normal" knockout system?
How should I know? I am not the one in charge of that page  Grin

Kidding aside, that is not a site I ever shared or used. I am always using tennisexplorer. Never needed anything else.



I expected some questions about snooker, but it seems like drop down is enough to not promt much research and people just choose.
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