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1041  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 12, 2016, 09:37:39 PM
Modern banking especially fractional reserve banking is a universal and historic form of theft. As a society we tolerate it and will suffer for this tolerance.

It does not matter who benefits most from the breach. If every current banker including all those of Jewish ancestry suddenly vanished other groups would simply step into their places and things would carry on exactly as before.

100% COMPLETELY FALSE - And the reason why all non-homogeneous civilizations collapse, also demonstrated by "The Florida effect".  Homogeneous civilizations like Japan are less likely to rip one another off because they see each other as possible relatives and benefit in not acting in a malevolent manner amongst one another to facilitate continuing to pass those genes on.  Without that, the world is just a massive tragedy of the commons where everything is considered a dumpster and someone else's problem with no accountability for anyone's actions.

The Florida effect was a study where people are more likely to agree to pay taxes for areas of which share common genetic ancestry and oppose it for other groups.  Humans are tribal in nature period.

The Jews run a scam of extreme collective nepotism - group evolutionary strategy, while telling others they're not allowed to do so.  The individual cannot compete against a group, so they automatically win if you follow their Marxist propaganda, which they hypocritically have no intent to follow themselves.  Failure to see this is the fastest way to ensure your own extinction.  Feel free to be a shabbos goy servant.  Henry Ford, Vladimir Putin, Bobby Fischer, and I will join the other team.







1042  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: December 12, 2016, 08:49:30 PM
This FOFOA site makes some valid points, but the entire thing is based around the idea that jew bankers can revalue gold to some astronomical amount overnight while also keeping silver perma manipulated down, when too many large technical traders exist and will dump their new, expensive gold to buy the cheaper silver as a double up on their profits.  FOFOA also assumes there will be a world monopoly on power and no other foreign entities like China or Russia exist, and every nation/CB on earth will all manipulate gold up in unison and attempt to prevent silver from rising in unison (lol?).

There is a history going back where the west attempted to demonitize silver as a way to hurt China + India and others, so unless China, Russia, and India are all run by Jewish banking shills, they want revenge for that (especially China) and will want to see silver skyrocket to somewhat dilute the current evil banker wealth and power dynasty.  The world feels like the monolithic power structure is currently cracking and there will be more of a multipolar world, so if CB interests are not all aligned with one another, then they have a hard time rigging all markets the way they want to maximize their control.

The spread between US and China on silver right now seems to be a nice sign of this:

http://didthesystemcollapse.com/

China appears to be saying, hey, fuck your manipulation.  You manipulate down and we'll just buy it all.
g'ahead and we'll just switch over to bitcoin or the likes and see your bag become worthless over night Smiley

Not me personally but perhaps what the western power elites have in mind.

Who knows what the bankers will try.  Unlike what FOFOA claims, I have a feeling they are not that enthusiastic about pumping gold because countries like India own so much and the bankers have zero interest in empowering India to their level and turning a bunch of 3rd worlders into Slumdog millionaire.  They also aren't that anxious to pump gold for China and Russia.  

Just who owns the majority of Bitcoins out there?  Nobody has any clue for the most part.  Unless "Satoshi" is the DARPA stash of the US, it seems highly unlikely any country would try to force Bitcoin as settlement currency above metals because nobody has any clue what would happen or who benefits.  All actions in banking tend to revolve around pushing for things that benefit a handful of Zionist oligarchs in NYC, so if you think they've been buying them up over the years, feel free to hop on the Bitcoin train, but nobody knows.  

Silver is the one thing where it doesn't even matter if the CBs bless it or not since the general public and technical traders will remonitize silver to the moon if they pump gold.  And you can see this trend has already been proven correct and FOFOA wrong with what's been going on so far.  CBs are pigs that believe they can control everything and pigs get slaughtered.
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2016, 08:32:02 PM
T-48 HOURS FOR A 100% FED INTEREST RATE HIKE, FUEL THE F***ING ROCKET !!![/size]

Raising rates doesn't help Bitcoin.  It doesn't necessarily hurt it either since gold has gone up at the same time rates have many times before.  Loose monetary policy with things like borrowing at zero or negative rates creates malinvestment, which then creates bubbles in speculative assets.  The act of tightening monetary policy theoretically should drain money out of speculative assets.  Depending on who you ask, Bitcoin is either money or a speculative asset, but most people can't even define what the hell it is, which is why it's usually not affected by normal market variables.

The only way raising rates is really beneficial for Bitcoin (since higher rates makes fiat more competitive) is if you bring it to like 3% to create a derivatives meltdown, or crank them all the way up to make the debt unserviceable and force Trump to default on it.

I agree with what you said R0ach, but don't forget that any raise in the USD will immediately equal to a weakening CNY.

Too many variables to address there since you have to posit China makes up the majority of the BTC buyer's market and anytime they perform such arbitrage action that there's a buyer for the coins they inflate to a higher price in the process.  I mean, it all sounds good on paper, but let's say China devalues by 30% in one swoop tomorrow and insider traders buy a bunch of BTC today.  For their trade to function, someone else on the planet has to be willing to buy BTC at 30% higher prices or the price comes back down again.  So it's less of a sure thing and more like a game of do the Chinese feel lucky today?
1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2016, 08:17:29 PM
T-48 HOURS FOR A 100% FED INTEREST RATE HIKE, FUEL THE F***ING ROCKET !!![/size]

Raising rates doesn't help Bitcoin.  It doesn't necessarily hurt it either since gold has gone up at the same time rates have many times before.  Loose monetary policy with things like borrowing at zero or negative rates creates malinvestment, which then creates bubbles in speculative assets.  The act of tightening monetary policy theoretically should drain money out of speculative assets.  Depending on who you ask, Bitcoin is either money or a speculative asset, but most people can't even define what the hell it is, which is why it's usually not affected by normal market variables.

The only way raising rates is really beneficial for Bitcoin (since higher rates makes fiat more competitive) is if you bring it to like 3% to create a derivatives meltdown, or crank them all the way up to make the debt unserviceable and force Trump to default or hyperinflate out of it.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2016, 06:51:15 PM
The ticker seems to be malfunctioning and stopped going up.

1046  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: December 12, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
This FOFOA site makes some valid points, but the entire thing is based around the idea that jew bankers can revalue gold to some astronomical amount overnight while also keeping silver perma manipulated down, when too many large technical traders exist and will dump their new, expensive gold to buy the cheaper silver as a double up on their profits.  FOFOA also assumes there will be a world monopoly on power and no other foreign entities like China or Russia exist, and every nation/CB on earth will all manipulate gold up in unison and attempt to prevent silver from rising in unison (lol?).

There is a history going back where the west attempted to demonitize silver as a way to hurt China + India and others, so unless China, Russia, and India are all run by Jewish banking shills, they want revenge for that (especially China) and will want to see silver skyrocket to somewhat dilute the current evil banker wealth and power dynasty.  The world feels like the monolithic power structure is currently cracking and there will be more of a multipolar world, so if CB interests are not all aligned with one another, then they have a hard time rigging all markets the way they want to maximize their control.

The spread between US and China on silver right now seems to be a nice sign of this:

http://didthesystemcollapse.com/

China appears to be saying, hey, fuck your manipulation.  You manipulate down and we'll just buy it all.
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2016, 01:16:54 PM
This is going to be a very unproductive day for me. At my day job, that is.

Speculating Americans don't like to wake up early, but we have to, so we do it slowly.
1048  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: December 12, 2016, 01:07:55 PM
Some nice bogus predictions on this FOFOA site:

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I highlighted that bit at the end about $10,000 gold and 50 cent silver because I want to explain my take on it. On the day FOA wrote that post, gold was $261 and silver was $4.37

So they were completely wrong and silver did a +10.6x and gold a +7x after that post.  We're now back in the same position again where the silver upside dwarfs that of gold upside.


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Usually, they function along side whatever major reserve currency is in vogue. Today, the dollar, tomorrow the Euro. Make no mistake, the entire internal US sector can and will function as its currency runs a price inflation just like these third world countries. We will adapt as they have by dropping our living standard accordingly and adopting the Euro as our second money.

Another obviously wrong theory that the US dollar collapses before the Euro and the US starts using....Euro notes as a last resort.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weird question, but please answer. Coin's to hold for 6 years. I'm going to jail on: December 12, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
I bought: 20% ETH - I really believe in this project. I think Vitalik is genius and making word a better place Smiley
              20% Bitcoin - Probably it will exist in next 4-6 years (I'm not sure, but so many smart ppl think so)
              20% Golem - This is great project and i truly believe it can be something really big.
              15% ICN - If somehow this will alive... I think might cost really nice.
              15% ZEC - I believe zec can replace bitcoin for next 3-6 years. Why not? Z-transactions is really nice. Smart team. Nice hype.
              10% Wings - I like DAO idea and this is the best project for today.


All of those coins will be worth 0 besides Bitcoin when you get out.  And Bitcoin price will either be much higher or 0.
1050  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 12, 2016, 10:26:30 AM
More hand waving pretending there is not an ethnocentric cult known as Judaism running the banks and media propaganda machine.
1051  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 12, 2016, 02:11:26 AM
Again, this is all hand waving, obfuscation nonsense.  I know for a fact that the Jews are not going to stop practicing extreme ethnic nepotism for the benefit of themselves and to the detriment of everyone else they come in contact with anytime soon.  Only a fool doesn't see them as being the main force behind our scam economic system and media propaganda.  I would be happy to live and let live, but the Jews obviously don't see it that way, so it's either a choice of them or me and I'm going to pick me instead.  Simple survival at this point.

As mentioned, they operate with extreme collectivism, and there is no way to combat a collective enemy without a collective solution.  You gave the common white man no other choice.  It's not our fault, it's your fault.  This has happened numerous times before in literally hundreds of countries and you still haven't learned your lesson. You can see why I have zero sympathy.

Just to clarify I have no Jewish ancestry. My genetic heritage is overwhelmingly Scandinavian (light hair and blue eyes) and I have a German last name.

Targeting your anger at Jews will only blind you to the larger issues. Do some Jews embrace evil? You bet they do. However, if you could snap you fingers and make every Jew vanish you would be left with a world with far more evil not less. Evil sooner or later destroys those who embrace it whether those individuals be Aryans, Asians, Blacks, Jews, Christians, or Communists.

Here is a short 5 minute video I recommend watching.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/i-am-lord-your-god

Well, I'm sorry to say but I'm not practicing your nonsense Ghandi ideology of let people trample over you.  The way life works is that people form collective groups and throw their weight around, which forces others into collective groups to defend against them.  You can either practice cuckoldism and be enslaved in usury or overthrow the slave masters.  Contrary to your claim that overthrowing the slave masters is "evil", they are the ones practicing the evil ideology and they do it in a collective manner where tossing one or two or even 100 in jail does absolutely nothing.
1052  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: December 11, 2016, 09:58:03 PM
what are you going to eat in the Knowledge Age

When complex systems collapse, you go into a dark age, not a knowledge age.  You don't get an age of enlightenment from regional instability.  Sometimes I think Anonymint believes you can will things into existence, but willing a new renaissance into reality amongst a bunch of dindus looting the local storefronts isn't going to happen.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2016, 08:35:04 PM
It's also plain as day to see what's going on with metals.  You HAVE to rig the price of metals in order to try and force NIRP/ZIRP on people, and that's exactly what they've done, manipulated them down even lower than their already manipulated low prices.  They're currently on sale for like 30-40% off their usual manipulation state:



The fact they would attempt this manipulation going even further than the normal manipulation indicates we are in the endgame and they aren't worried about having to make good on any paper promises or claims on unallocated gold with 100 or more owners for every 1 bar.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2016, 08:24:58 PM
I bought thousands of pounds worth of silver when it was at $30.



What a dickhead

I bought all mine under $20, but even the big names in silver like David Morgan and Mike Maloney have bought silver at much higher prices than now.  People like Mike Maloney have bought at $5, but they also bought at $30.  David Morgan also has $30 silver.  In the end you will still do well if you're patient because the price of metals is going astronomically high when the debt markets implode.
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2016, 07:04:38 PM
r0ach is legendary now? Abandon ship   Cheesy


I find him entertaining...  Cheesy Cheesy ...  When the 5th Reich emerges, he will probably have his own battalion. So... I guess you should get in his good graces today and cash in your investment when the day comes!  Roll Eyes

1056  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 11, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
Just want to point out that the only people who cry about Jews are envious losers. Jews practice economic nepotism because it works out really well for them! The only reason losers like Roach complain is that they can't benefit. You're the Marxist scum, Roach, you sad little man, trying to take others down for what they've accomplished.  

Nice, I have an actual JIDF shill account following me around now.  The problem isn't solely Jews practicing collectivism, it's that they attempt to not only prevent whites from acting in their own collective interests, they even try to pass laws preventing them from doing so.  The alt-right is now taking over and nobody really gives a shit what lunatic leftists or Marxist Jews say anymore.

Here's your typical example of Jewish Marxist propaganda commonly seen in America.  The effectiveness of this propaganda is zero now that the alt-right has won:

1057  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 11, 2016, 06:34:11 PM
Again, this is all hand waving, obfuscation nonsense.  I know for a fact that the Jews are not going to stop practicing extreme ethnic nepotism for the benefit of themselves and to the detriment of everyone else they come in contact with anytime soon.  Only a fool doesn't see them as being the main force behind our scam economic system and media propaganda.  I would be happy to live and let live, but the Jews obviously don't see it that way, so it's either a choice of them or me and I'm going to pick me instead.  Simple survival at this point.

As mentioned, they operate with extreme collectivism, and there is no way to combat a collective enemy without a collective solution.  You gave the common white man no other choice.  It's not our fault, it's your fault.  This has happened numerous times before in literally hundreds of countries and you still haven't learned your lesson.  You can see why I have zero sympathy.
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weird question, but please answer. Coin's to hold for 6 years. I'm going to jail on: December 11, 2016, 06:26:37 PM
What are you smoking? I'm staunchly pro capitalism. I hate Marxists with a passion. You sound like a bitter old man.

Practicing cultural Marxism makes you a Marxist period.  Marxism is 1/2 economic and 1/2 social engineering.  A real capitalist believes in freedom of association and doesn't care about what others do or believe.  But I have no interest in talking to you since you're an obvious garbage shill account, so I'm outta here.
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weird question, but please answer. Coin's to hold for 6 years. I'm going to jail on: December 11, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Spamming the word "antisemite" only works to persuade other Marxists.  Since I am not a Marxist, it's more of a joke or compliment spamming that at me.  Hate to break the bad news to you, but ever since the invention of the internet, just about everyone knows who runs the malevolent, usury banking and media monopoly.  Have fun trying to prop up your dying Marxist usury scams and preventing all the angry villagers from coming after you while I'm happy to sit on the right side of history basking in the glory of ginormous metals gains.
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Weird question, but please answer. Coin's to hold for 6 years. I'm going to jail on: December 11, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
Don't buy gold or silver, that's one of the dumbest things you could do. Precious metals are an old paradigm. Invest in the future, not in the past. Put 25% in Bitcoin, 50% in an ETF that tracks the S&P 500, like VOO, and 25% into tech company stocks (If you're feeling like a risk taker, buy Tesla, if not then do stuff like Google, Baidu, etc).  People who spout nonsense like "The dollar is going to collapse!" are dimwits. These nuts have been around since forever. Those who listened to them after 2008 (i.e. invested in gold/silver/canned food/ammo) got wrecked, while those who invested in real estate or stocks did very well.

Load of bullshit.  This is basically what the Jews type in the Wall Street Journal about gold to try and bottom the market before they buy it all and send the price 5x higher.  Last time they did this was when they were spamming gold and silver are "barbarous relics" you need to dump.  Turns out that was the bottom of the market when you should be buying instead.  My first ever big investment was going all in on gold at $420, so your lie that everyone "loses" in the metals market is complete bullshit.  Only people that don't know what they're doing.  Metals have been great for me.

Oh wow, you aren't just a dimwit gold bug, you're also an anti-semite piece of garbage. Sad.

JIDF shill detected.  And there is also no reason to buy gold right now.  Everyone that knows what they're doing buys ONLY silver when the GSR is over 50:1.
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