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1041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some of country can offer you legal gambling in 2023! on: October 01, 2023, 09:54:12 AM
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It is difficult for us to overcome this because they already have many friends who will cover each other's activities. We can only complain without knowing where to complain because almost everyone is involved. And even if some are not involved in that circle, they also don't have the power to fight it.

Voting is a formality to show the people that they are giving us the opportunity to choose the finalists. But after one of them is elected, they will only benefit their group without siding with the people. This makes the country's economic condition never improve or develop because they still control it.

Yeah, the whole thing about voting is a bit of a show, because they basically have two options only, instead of having a real choice.

But yes, at the end of it, it's all just a show so that people think they have a choice.
1042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: October 01, 2023, 09:41:01 AM
I mean if you continually play you are always going to lose in the end.  The odds are tipped in the casinos favor as that's their business.  People do win the jackpots but it's few and far between.  The trick is to get out while ahead and not continuing to play, that's when you end up getting drained.  Short play time win or lose, got to have a walk away point.

That is actually correct, the math tells you that in the end the gambler will lose all their money.

That is why the casinos will give them free food and drinks, so that the gambler stays there for as long as possible.

The key of course is to win big and stop, but that is very unlikely to happen.
1043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: October 01, 2023, 09:33:06 AM
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They successfully combat their addiction and turn gambling as successful career since they market theirselves very well to the huge number of people that's why they are gaining supports and sponsorship that makes their gambling career alive.

That's why many choose to stream their gaming sessions since they want to gather millions of followers and gain attention from sponsors that can support them. Some may failed on this maybe they can't handle their losses and have proper financing but other excel especially those big gambling streamers since they are good on entertaining people and earning a lot of money from multiple ways. Lets forget about the cut but if we want to be successful on gambling maybe we should work to widen up our network since this is how we can slowly gain some fame and be known on this industry.

True, at the end of the day most gamblers that stream end up making their money in other things, like sponsors and things like that.

The actual gambling is usually not the actual source of income. It's a bit like selling shovels in the gold rush
1044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: September 30, 2023, 06:49:27 AM
I'm sure it's very difficult. if we only have some money then want to gamble completely. So how do we buy the necessities for our lives or our families? then when using it with a 50% win ratio what if it loses? even if it wins are we sure not to come back to play? I'm sure many of us want to continue playing after winning. Even I myself have not found a big win and then stopped.

Yes, casinos know this very well, and the moment a gambler wins big they will be quick to celebrate with them, and the casino will bring them some free food and drinks so that they stay longer, because they know that eventually the gambler will lose it all to the casino.

And after winning, the gambler will feel like being in the top of the world and will want to replicate their win.

Unfortunately, the most probable thing to happen to the gambler next is to lose all their money instead, which is why the casino wants them to stay for as long as possible.
1045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 30, 2023, 06:46:01 AM
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You only need a ball, and 22 people can play sports together. No need for goalposts, football boots, or even a grass field. You only need a ball and a field with sufficient area and width. It's very simple to be able to play football. You can imagine how cheap it costs. There are no complicated rules to remember. Yes, I think the rules are also what make football a very easy sport to play.

You can always make the goal posts of sweaters or shirts from the players, and the ball can be anything really.

Kids in poor countries will use anything, even pieces of rubbish to play football. A ball is a luxury in some places.

At the end of the day, football is the easiest game to play all around the world and the most loved one.
1046  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 30, 2023, 06:43:34 AM
An addiction should have a negative impact in your life, if these professional gamblers are living their bsst lives gambling and their habits not really being a problem for them that it interferes with their life outside gambling, I think that we can just that they're not addicts but in a metaphorical perspective, they're an addict because they can't let go of their habit that is gambling which is a vice. So to answer the question, it depends on who you're asking. Also we have to remember that most professional gamblers play Blackjack or Poker and not those slots where the edge is heavily house favored.

Yeah, at the end of the day those professional gamblers might earn more money from the sponsors than what they earn gambling.

You might be able to be the lucky one that ends up with all the wins against your peers and therefore end up winning all the lucrative contracts with expensive brands.

But the casino always takes a cut from every bet, and they house always wins
1047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: September 30, 2023, 06:41:08 AM
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Basically when we gamble then we have to think that it is fun and not work. I am amazed at the people who choose to gamble to earn extra income. To me it sounds very funny because if you keep winning and getting the jackpot then the casino will definitely experience losses and that is not good business.

Yeah, it is just fiction when you hear about those stories.

Gamblers are quick to tell the times when they won, but are always forgetting when they lose against the casinos.

If you sum up all the wins and losses, it is pretty much guaranteed all the gamblers are going to lose money in the long run.
1048  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some of country can offer you legal gambling in 2023! on: September 30, 2023, 06:38:31 AM
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Many people want to become politicians because they will use their power to get more money from the many loopholes they can exploit. Even though they say they will continue to work for the people, the results are not very significant for the people, while their wealth continues to increase from various sources. It happens in many countries. That's why if there are still gaps, more and more people want to become politicians. Even those elected as politicians want to regain their power by nominating themselves as politicians again.

Yeah, at the end of the day most politicians will try to help themselves and their friends first, and then, maybe, think about the people they govern.

It is a sad reality and it should definitely be the other way around, but I am not sure about what we can do about it.

Voting basically only gives you the illusion that we are in control, when in reality the politicians end up doing whatever they want once elected.
1049  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: September 30, 2023, 06:35:54 AM
^^ The situation in USA is not the same as any other place, they have a HUUUGE land there, think of it like all of Europe is being one single nation and you will see my point. That is why I said most cases, because in most cases it would be insane to just let it be like that, but there are cases when it is not.

This is why it may work for them, not like I am against popular votes neither, if they decide to go that way then I would be fine with that, not like I am American so I do not care, all I am saying is that making this work in a nation that is much smaller would be weird, but making it like this here in a giant land doesn't sound too weird to me. I am not saying this one is better, just saying it only makes sense for a nation like this.

Yeah, it is a huge area, but I think other countries with similar sizes have a different style of election.

So, I don't think it is a requirement for the US to be like this, it is just how the history of the country defined their election system
1050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 30, 2023, 06:33:51 AM
The point about losing on slot is its fairly normal, its part of the game to lose but trick is to win more then you lose and thats how you get ahead overall.  Easier said then done, but anyone going into playing slots not accepting they will be losing maybe some maybe in majority that day is going to be blindsided by reality.    I try to outplay, outlast the losing cycle of any session and get into the wins enough that I can come out ahead of where I started, thats my simple plan.  When Im ahead I usually stop not that long after to bank the days gains.   Then I start all over and try again the next day Smiley

Yeah, but the thing is that it is basically almost impossible to win more than the times you lose.

And if you come back another day it doesn't really change anything as it is the same odds you were facing before.

It's all about math and probability, and those won't change if you come back another day.

It's best to just enjoy it as you will probably lose all your money anyway.
1051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 27, 2023, 09:06:05 AM
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Unfortunately, they are not and or they don't care about it, they are on the side where they are thinking that they are still
in control of what they are doing.

Sad true that when someone got addicted, they are not the only one who's getting the problem, but also
those who are close with them, especially the family that cares about them or the family who are relying
with them. All are also affected and if the person would not accept it, the problem will be keep worse.


Yes, that is the unfortunate truth, gamblers are going to affect the people around them.

This means that you should try not to be dependent on someone that is a gambling addict, because at the end of the day that person is going to lose all their money, and you as a dependent will also be dragged onto it.
1052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 27, 2023, 08:59:59 AM
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Successful gamblers always have different ways that they do to avoid excessive gambling. Moreover, he also has a lot of experience, which can help him recognize every moment to distance himself from problems that might arise. They know when they can go to the casino and start gambling and when to stop gambling so they will get out of the casino on time and have no problems. We have a lot to do and learn so that we can become successful gamblers and not experience gambling addiction or other problems.

In reality there is no way to predict when you are going to win while gambling, so those successful gamblers are juat the lucky ones.
1053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: September 27, 2023, 08:48:55 AM
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I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.

Of course, you could have an AI assistant that talks to an AI of a company to say, make you an appointment.

It is basically going to be the new API. AIs talking to other AIs.

There is no problem with it
1054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 27, 2023, 08:42:50 AM
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I always thought that mastering the multiplier machine is a big plus when you are playing Slots? I used to count how many rounds I've played before winning but I later do not care anymore, because this almost have an impact on me, thinking that I am this close to winning, I didn't want to end up having a big desire for gambling.

Sometimes I win and most times I don't, but because I solely focus on enjoying the fun out of Slots I don't even bother using any other strategy than making sure I don't use a lot of money on gambling, mostly when I can't afford it.

I've spend some money on multiple spins before and it got me nowhere, I think it's better not to expect a lot of good wins from slots, it's better to always remember to play with care all the times. Now I just do it for the fun part only.

Yes, that is the best way to enjoy gambling, just doing it for the fun of it.

It is impossible to actually predict when you are going to win something, so might as well enjoy your time.
1055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: September 27, 2023, 07:39:16 AM
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Regret is always there. Even if you regret after you lose in gambling, it doesn't mean that you are not a true gambler. Regret comes from the people who really hope to win, like hoping to win a jackpot once in a while to be used on their needs. The feeling of regret must be coming from thoughts that the money should be spent in a different way instead of losing it in gambling.
Regret is a horrible feeling, but at the end of the day there will be times where a gambler will have to go through it at some point.

It seems to be something inevitable in casinos.
1056  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 26, 2023, 05:10:22 AM
In gambling there is no proper definition of success. Either you win or lose in gambling. If your winning amount is more than your losing amount, then yes it can be considered as somehow successful. But to make this happen, you need to have good bankroll which you will use to recover the losses. Now if you have a big bankroll, then it only defines that you are rich and you are gambling only for recreational purposes. So yes calling them as addicts won’t be suitable.

If you are constantly playing that means that you will have to constantly pour your money into the casinos.

I think at that level the definition of addiction is ok.

Because you are still gambling but are paying a lot constantly for it, without ever stopping. It might get to a point where you do not have the extra money coming in and then it will be hard to stop
1057  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 26, 2023, 05:04:51 AM
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I am not sure about this. Brazil is a relatively prosperous nation, at least when compared to Asian and African nations. But it is true that there are quite a few informal settlements in Brazil (known as Favelas, with a total population of close to 11-12 million spread across 6,000+ localities), where the living standards are too low. But these sort of ghettoes can be found even in developed nations such as the United States and France. That doesn't mean that those who live there face too many obstacles in developing their game.

You can read the bio of many Brazilian players and they will say that they were growing in one of those favelas, that they did not have shoes or food, and they were playing football all day by kicking a ball of paper, etc.

That is very common in Brazil, and to a lesser extent, South America.

These kids grew up playing with the absolute minimum, just a ball made of paper or trash, and ended up being the best in the world.

Rivaldo for example has issues with malnutrition when he was a kid.
1058  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: September 26, 2023, 05:01:12 AM
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Yes, you are right, alcohol will make gamblers lose their minds and not be able to use logic properly. But for casinos, this is what they like, when they are drunk they will lose more money and bet without common sense

Gambling, alcohol and women's nights, if you combine these three, it is a way to spend money quickly. Don't be tempted by momentary pleasure because that will make us miserable

Yes, but at the same time abstinence is no fun, so the actual ideal solution would be to be able to be in control of doing anything, in moderation.

Or how the Swedes call it, Lagom. This word translates to something like "just right, not too much, not too little"
1059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 26, 2023, 04:59:00 AM
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not sure if there's consensus regarding this topics but it's a really interesting one, I'd say it's the most interesting topic I've ever talked about here on the gambling boards of bitcointalk.

I think it's a two way road too with our attention influencing our thoughts but random things happening as well and we "deciding" to stick with them or let them go.
attention is powerful, for sure.

Attention has been studied a lot, for example we know that we don't have too much "energy" to make decisions every day, there is a decision fatigue, so it is important to control your environment.

Of course advertisers know this and tries to control your environment as well. Supermarket product placement for example is key.

It is really an interesting topic, and this just barely scratches the surface. At the end of the day, you will become what you pay attention to.
1060  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 26, 2023, 04:54:12 AM
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yes!
what would be interesting to see is how often people win, how many times they play before winning for the first time, if they usually play only one day or many days in a row
this kind of thing

but you're right, probably some people win but only the minority.

The majority of people will lose on the first game. This is because the odds are against the gambler, and that is always true, at the first or at the last bet.

What is important is to see what the gambler does after this, if they keep playing and therefore losing, or if they keep it under control
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