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1041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2015, 10:35:28 AM
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to reach $260 by the end of the day ! on: January 25, 2015, 03:51:46 PM
Guys, you have opportunity to sell your bitcoins for $250, don't take it for granted. A couple of months from now this will look ridiculously high.
1043  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold to the moon on: January 21, 2015, 08:12:31 PM
Gold is the real investment

Because it has been established long long ago and people love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndshbH3qZ6Y
1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: 152$ was the bottom? (July 2013 comparison) on: January 21, 2015, 01:04:11 PM
$152 is the new $275 (and we know how that ended)
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 10:58:40 PM
Myth #7: We’ll end up just like Weimar Germany or Zimbabwe.
Reality: Hyperinflation in both countries was caused by circumstances far different than ours.


The minute you challenge the assumption that the government should not spend when it has a large deficit, out comes the charge that we’ll get some horrible hyperinflationary outcome like Weimar Germany or Zimbabwe.

Yes, once the economy gets to full employment, then extra government deficit spending can start driving up prices. But what happened in Weimar Germany was very different. During that time, the government was forced to pay extremely large war reparations in foreign currencies which it didn’t have. So it had to aggressively sell its own currency and buy the foreign currency in the financial markets. This relentless selling continuously drove down the value of its currency, causing prices of goods and services to go ever higher in what became one of the most famous inflations of all time. By 1919, the German budget deficit was equal to half of GDP, and by 1921, war reparation payments represented one third of government spending. And guess what? On the very day that government stopped paying the war reparations and selling its own currency to buy foreign currency, the hyperinflation stopped.

In Zimbabwe, the situation is also very different from ours. There, the conditions for hyperinflation were caused by the destruction of nearly half of the country’s domestic food production via misguided land reforms, plus a civil war which eliminated much of the economy’s productive manufacturing capacity. In response to food shortages, the Bank of Zimbabwe used valuable foreign exchange reserves to buy imported food, leading to a lack of foreign currency to purchase essential raw materials. Manufacturing output collapsed, but the government used much of the remaining foreign exchange to dole out political favors, rather than adding to the country’s productive capacity. The end result was inflation and then hyperinflation.

In the US, hyperinflation will not be an issue if the government spends while it has a large deficit because with high unemployment and unused yet functioning factories all across the country, there is plenty of room to cut taxes and/or increase spending to get us to full employment. This is true no matter what the size of the federal deficit. Ultimately, inflation (and then hyperinflation) is about competing distributive claims over real resources, such as oil, gas, water, etc. A “sustainable” fiscal policy, especially with respect to hyperinflationary risks, then, is really about both the establishment of full employment and the implementation of well-crafted policies which deal with the constraints created by, for example, depleting natural resources.

~Marshall Auerback, Senior Fellow at the Roosevelt Institute and Rob Parenteau, sole proprietor of MacroStrategy Edge

MYTH #8: Government spending increases interest rates and ‘crowds out’ valuable private sector investment.
Reality: Banks can lend essentially without limit, and the Fed can hit any interest rate target it chooses.

Ask an economist what determines the interest rate, and she’ll probably mutter something about supply and demand or “market forces.” Ask the same economist what determines the level of saving and investment, and the answer probably won’t change very much. This is because most economists were trained using textbooks that have not been rewritten since the United States went off the gold standard after WWII.

Back then, we had a monetary system that really did limit the growth of the money supply, and too much government spending really could force rates higher and crowd out other forms of spending. It is all based on something economists know as Loanable Funds Theory, which describes a market in which there is some limited pool of savings available to satisfy the demand for credit. Thus, deficit spending required the government to compete (with private borrowers) for a portion of these limited resources. Because the capacity to lend was constrained under the gold standard, the added competition could drive borrowing costs (i.e. the interest rate) higher.

Decades later, the monetary system looks completely different. But economists continue to treat governments as if they are the users of the currency (as opposed to the issuers) and to treat banks as passive money lenders — there simply to broker deals between savers and borrowers. In truth, banks can lend essentially without limit, regardless of what the federal government is doing, and the Federal Reserve can hit any interest rate target it chooses.

~Stephanie Kelton, Associate Professor, University of Missouri-Kansas City, Missouri



Here is more about the subject:
http://my.firedoglake.com/selise/tag/stephanie-kelton/


Here interesting video in short if you don't have time to read much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGen5o6vAmw
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:43:40 PM
Currency is supposed to circulate, not to be hoarded or hidden under the mattress. It's not expected to rise in value.

You people should stop following Mises and Austrian economics. We're no longer in gold standard, you should learn how modern monetary system works before writing nonsense.
 
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 02:12:32 PM
Looking at the conference pictures and twitter. Seems that only fat geeky guys are supporting bitcoin.

Just sayin' that future looks ugly  Smiley

Here are some of the fiat supporters:





1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cry me a river on: January 18, 2015, 01:48:56 PM
Just as a reminder, stuff posted here only 2 weeks ago:


1049  Economy / Speculation / Re: Change in public sentiment!? on: January 18, 2015, 11:06:43 AM
Great article.. i mean great comments  Grin

I hope more people will join the community, Bitcoin is quite stable now, it's around $210.. so let's hope this the bottom  Smiley

Yeah, but it was $190 ten minutes earlier. Almost 10% change in a couple of minutes...
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is actually good news for Bitcoin on: January 17, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Waiting for inca's ACTUAL ARGUMENTS against any of the points I raised:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd0fBXwDBmo

You can probably expect him posting a screenshot of "this user is currently ignored". That's what they always do when someone is saying something contrary to their beliefs.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bye to sub-$200 cheap coins on: January 16, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
Bulls keep lowering their standards  Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338989.msg3635585#msg3635585
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it possible that 1 BTC be worth $2,000 by the end of 2015? on: January 15, 2015, 06:26:04 PM
It is possible but HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I'd rather bet on $200, even $20, than $2000.

If you say so...

How dare you, a mere senior member, question an all-knowing junior?

Why the next thing you know heroes and legends will start thinking they know as much as noobs when noobs clearly outnumber them.

If you've known about Bitcoin for more than a few months, you're obviously living in the past.

 Roll Eyes

Being a newbie is a good thing because you're unbiased. Senior members think the Sun revolves around Bitcoin.

Yep. Ignorance and guesswork are preferable to knowledge and experience because knowledge causes bias.

LOLOLOLOLOLO

hahahahahahaha

 Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool Roll Eyes

How old are you, child?

How is you "knowledge and experience" doing?
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2015, 06:18:08 PM
...
all illegal immigrants (mexicans) now get a free 'get your money in the bank' id cards so they too can enjoy the same benefits as first class citizens (instead of being second class and left out of the benefits). first class citizen benefits: get abusively taxed, get obama-irs-scheme-cared, buy stocks @ATH's, buy high sell low, and get bailed-in!!

What can we do to stop these mud people, aztecminer?  The Jews and their government puppets (look who's the president now, those people are shameless!  It's as if they are mocking us!) have colluded to impoverish the decent, full-blooded Americans like you and me.
What's To Be Done?!


the reason for any bail-ins will be because of an economic crisis. i think making sure your own ass is covered. i think still some time left though cuz they gotta get the mexican's money in the bank's .

Why pardon my quoting of an ignored character, but... aren't you Russian?  Grin
Yes, but you have to admit, that is some quality trolling of a racist ignoranus.

There's no way he's Russian, from writing it's obvious English is his first language.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 10:56:21 PM
This is awful.
I feel sick.
Why?
Been waiting months to buy at 100.
My 8000 GBP investment is worth about 2000 GBP now.
I was told BTC was the future.
This is bull shit.

You've been warned by many people here, but you ignored them and labeled them as trolls
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you are waiting for the "despair phase" to buy like in 2011 consider this on: January 14, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
Sooooooooooooo did anybody listen?
Or we losing fortunes here?



Looks like we are on track.



This is not a joke you fools, people are losing actual real money over this shit.


I wish people's thoughts of that time were somehow documented so we could read about "cheap tulips"

I also hope this forum will exist 10 years from now for educational purposes, but somehow I doubt it, when you enter bitcointalk you'll probably see this


1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we being played? on: January 14, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK_g0H6Zs1M
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2015, 11:14:05 PM
Bulls right now

1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
Hope the perma-bulls will at least take the chance to learn something here.

Herd behaviour, mass psychology, delusions, greed, economics, investing, trading, controlling one's emotions, bubbles, technology, frauds, scammers, sociopathy, ethics, etc.

Whether you got screwed or you profited, there's a lot to learn from this whole mess.
I'm actually serious  Cheesy

Unlikely. Permabulls have the same mentality as gold bugs, they're incapable of changing their beliefs or learning.
They have religious state of mind toward their investment, blame it on everyone else, come up with conspiracies and excuses, and usually are being arrogant and condescending to people who are trying to talk sense to them.
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: is anyone else as stupid as me to still hodl? on: January 13, 2015, 08:53:15 PM
Nah, there are many more suckers, you're not the only one. But you are stupid, I give you that.
1060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2015, 03:01:08 PM
Hilarious how people are putting up walls the push the price down even lower. Because it isn't bad enough yet. The best tech invention in ages completely destroyed by a bunch of traders.

^^ This!

Anyway, at this point let's see if the price hurry up and get to the final bottom.

What some people predicted 4 months ago, lol.
https://www.tradingview.com/v/8ss69KFu/

As well, another interesting chart. (Not relevant - of course) but is so curious  Cheesy


Lol, why is area below 0 also highlighted in green? To disguise the magnitude of bubble?
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