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1041  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: Ayuda Sierra chart on: March 26, 2013, 09:38:45 AM
Siuly , imposible que se carge la consola... Huh

No se que puede ser.
Podrás ofrecer un screenshot o algo de qué es lo que pasa.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 09:19:37 AM
Governments can manipulate gold, silver, fiat, bonds, even my momma, but they wont manipulate bitcoin, we have magicaltux to defend us.  Tongue
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 09:02:34 AM
1044  Local / Trading y especulación / Re: Boletín de Análisis Entráñico / Chamánico on: March 26, 2013, 08:53:34 AM
De paso, pq los asusta tanto una tendencia bajista???
1045  Local / Trading y especulación / Re: Boletín de Análisis Entráñico / Chamánico on: March 26, 2013, 08:48:26 AM
Narydu como siempre muy buen analisis. No hagas mucho caso a siuly, se rumorea que ha vendido sus bitcoins y se arrepiente un poco...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158739

Oiga, q rápido saltan a hablar de más. Yo nunca he sido ahorrador de bitcoins y lo he dejado claro antes. Compro y vendo cuando veo la oportunidad. Pondré grandes sumas de dinero en btc el día a tenga estabilidad. Mientras siga subiendo así sin nada de estabilidad, no voy a estar poniendo dinero de ahorro en bitcoins. Tendria q dormir cn un ojo abierto.
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 03:29:01 AM
Give it five years, you'll be valuing your fiat in bitcoins...

lol... what a wonderful thing the imagination is right...!

The day you are able to value gas for bitcoins and not be in the middle of a war, let me know. I hope im not dead already.

lol, in all seriousness though I think bitcoin can and will trade a lot higher than current prices. If you're calling a top here then fair play to you, I think we've been climbing too fast recently myself. But I still hold to my conviction that regardless of short term volatility, the mid to long term outlook on bitcoin is a bullish one, short of some major event such as as government intervention or some problem in the protocol which hasn't been recognised by some seriously clued up developers. Personally, I wouldn't feel confident enough to try and pick the tops and sell the dips (I'm sure I'd get it right a few times, but there's always that one time when thing go completely against the way you'd expected). Just invest what you're willing to lose and then you don't have to deal with the stress of it.

Yeah, exactly, everything will be alright until that very moment when everything begins to go wrong...

Im not calling a top or anything... im just a little bored and want to make visible the inconsistencies of the bitcoin discourse.
1047  Local / Trading y especulación / Re: Boletín de Análisis Entráñico / Chamánico on: March 26, 2013, 03:19:10 AM
Fueron aproximadas a los 30% ambas... evidencia de que falta una corrección mucho mayor.

Te recomiendo que te alimentes de la sangre de esos osos que viste en el camino, te vendrá bien, te dará fuerzas para cuando las necesites. Wink
1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 03:14:16 AM


1049  Local / Trading y especulación / Re: Boletín de Análisis Técnico on: March 26, 2013, 03:07:17 AM
En mi opinión los niveles de Fibonacci no son psicológicos. Existen porque el número phi está en los cimientos mismos del universo, como pi, y simplemente aparece en el mercado de la misma forma que aparece en las coliflores. Podríamos decir que aparece a través de la psicología de masas, pero no directamente relacionado con ella.
Exacto, muy bien explicado, lo de las coliflores me a llegado, aunque es cierto, la proporción áurea lo inunda TODO aunque no nos demos cuenta.

Sí, sé que la constante φ aparece expresada en múltiples aspectos de la naturaleza (la reproducción de ciertas especies, las espirales, los ángulos de crecimiento de las hojas de las plantas, etc.) pero hay que ser conscientes de que los números e y π también son ubicuos en nuestro universo, sin embargo, no veo que se les dé la misma importancia en este tipo de análisis. Seguro que si observamos los gráficos con cierta tolerancia también encontramos los números e y pi.


Recuerda que yo no soy un profesional con décadas de experiencia, que yo no use esas variable de análisis no significa que un experto no las use tampoco. Sería bueno que traigas más información sobre esas variable a ver si encuentro algo parecido en análisis técnico. Cheesy
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 03:02:02 AM
Give it five years, you'll be valuing your fiat in bitcoins...

lol... what a wonderful thing the imagination is right...!

The day you are able to value gas for bitcoins and not be in the middle of a war, let me know. I hope im not dead already.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 02:55:50 AM
let me guess, you sold out a while ago?


Nah, i buy a sell whenever i see an opportunitty...

But let me guess, you will never spend your bitcoins, right?

How does it feel to only be able to value your bitcoins in fiat?Huh :p
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 02:43:49 AM
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: March 26, 2013, 02:31:41 AM
ps. siu, you like strict EW rules very much, but you oftenly forget about basic rule: Strict EW rules work only on markets with good liquidity. Hour time frame has poor liquidity.

Dont worry dude, i was just wondering... it seems to not be overlaped if you look closely. I made my ruling in my chart Cheesy
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 02:24:44 AM
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 02:22:19 AM
1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 02:12:57 AM
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: March 26, 2013, 02:12:21 AM
But if seriously, pennant is still on table.



Is there overlap on that i and that iv?
1058  Economy / Speculation / Memespeculation on: March 26, 2013, 02:01:57 AM





1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cypriot banks open in Tuesday (not in 4 hours).. Who wants to make a prediction? on: March 26, 2013, 12:38:46 AM
STOP THE FUD! You are making a lot of people believe something that is not real... if Cyprus bank issue will have an impact in bitcoin it will be long term... years will pass first before big herds come and use bitcoin as a bank.

I didn't mean to spread FUD at all.  I was interested in seeing what the community here thought about what would happen when the Cypriot banks open.  When the Cyprus situation blew up last week, before we knew the banks would be closed for so long, I remember a lot of posts on the bitcoin subreddit saying "it will be interesting to see what happens when the banks reopen," then the price shot up another $20 US or so over the next few days.  Add to that the mainstream press discovering bitcoin and saying that Cyprus is driving the bitcoin boom and well... this seems like it might be a useful conversation to have.

Me, I'm new to this and I'm still wrapping my head around how the market moves.  I can't forecast this at all, but I'm guessing that other people here can.

If anything this thread is removing some FUD.  I don't see a single person here saying that they expect everybody in Cyprus to convert fully to bitcoin and drive the price up over $100 US in a day or two.  That makes sense to me, because I wasn't really buying the whole Cyprus is driving all the gains story either.  Like I said, though, I'm new, so I'm not really in a good position to forecast.

Full disclosure:  I own no bitcoins, bitcoin derivatives or cryptocurrency assets at all right now.  Today I plan to make a Linux partition with TrueCrypt, install the software and buy some BTC in order to buy VPN service with bitcoin because my current VPN provider is not that great, but I don't plan to invest until I've watched the volatility recede and have a deeper understanding of what I'm buying.

Very nice that you clarify...

People have tried to make believe that Cyprus have done something to do directly with the btc recent rise and thats not real. Reality is a little bit less optimistic, what in reality happened is that people is speculating that Cyprus WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE something to do with bitcoin and are desperately buying now thinking that when people in Cyprus begin to buy bitcoins price will explode.

Its called a bubble.

Very good for you to wait for stabilization, very few newbies have that reasoning. Im proud of you.

Every price above $15 has been pure speculation, there is no support on anything above $47, even from $25 to $40 there is no big supports either. Im sure price will eventually be below $20 before continuing to rise, if that doesnt happen, then bitcoin will fail miserably when less people expect it.
1060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cypriot banks open in Tuesday (not in 4 hours).. Who wants to make a prediction? on: March 25, 2013, 11:50:49 PM
Many of the big depositors in Cyprus won't be able to get at their money, and the smaller depositors are going to have to deal with withdrawal restrictions and difficult international transfers.  That said, many people are hoping that Cypriots will probably start buying bitcoins as soon as they can, which will hopefully happen on Tuesday.

You contradict yourself in your post...

You accept people will not have access to move their money in big quantities...
Cypriots have been for more than a week without access to their money, and you are saying that the first thing they will do is go a buy a currency that not much people understand yet, and on top of that you say that they will do it as soon as they have their money in their pocket (as of tomorrow??) WTF!

People have bills to pay, they have families to feed, they have mortgages to pay... not everyone has extra money to experiment on this new cryptocurrency... Im sure more than 90% of the people wont get it even if you explain it to them carefully.

STOP THE FUD! You are making a lot of people believe something that is not real... if Cyprus bank issue will have an impact in bitcoin it will be long term... years will pass first before big herds come and use bitcoin as a bank.
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