WTF stop that drama!
Complaining is silly. Either act or forget.
+1 +1 (but don't trust me, today I was informed I am mentally retarded) |
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I really wish the BTC to crash hard just after Avalon starts taking order. We shall see what happens to their BTC 88 - 115 payment plan. Greedy bastards.
How are they any more greedy than miners? Based on this thread, miners themselves have no confidence in BTC and view it only as a means to earn USD. Bwahahaha, this the exact reason why I don't respect some of my potential customers, I don't even want money from these people. In afterthought, raising the price it must stopped a lot people were purchasing because how brainless the profit was, now there is some math and faith involved. I assume that was the feeling. Many are finding out what happens when you deal with a principled business person. I was "really?" at first, but then after thinking about it, it didn't seem bad. With a ROI of 6-12 months, you know they will keep the gear on the network for that time, keeps it just the much more secure. Hope people are looking at other motives than just profits. You are mentally retarded, you know this, right? Actually I am quite sane. Maybe you should take some more time and think about this. |
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I have received my second Avalon, I will light it on tonight.
Both of my order have all received.
Mind giving your country of origin for the list? |
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Well played Avalon.
+1 Quoted for posterity. |
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I really wish the BTC to crash hard just after Avalon starts taking order. We shall see what happens to their BTC 88 - 115 payment plan. Greedy bastards.
How are they any more greedy than miners? Based on this thread, miners themselves have no confidence in BTC and view it only as a means to earn USD. Bwahahaha, this the exact reason why I don't respect some of my potential customers, I don't even want money from these people. In afterthought, raising the price it must stopped a lot people were purchasing because how brainless the profit was, now there is some math and faith involved. I assume that was the feeling. Many are finding out what happens when you deal with a principled business person. I was "really?" at first, but then after thinking about it, it didn't seem bad. With a ROI of 6-12 months, you know they will keep the gear on the network for that time, keeps it just the much more secure. Hope people are looking at other motives than just profits. Come on. They are just pushing their profit to the maximum giving the circumstance that right now they have no competition, that's all. They even acknowledge that now ROI is not guaranteed, you need "math and faith". So the current pricing + the greed taking over will make them sell out the units, making a huge profit, while is quite possible (but not certain) that the batch #3 buyers will not even recoup their costs. That said, I think they did a great move for themselves: they set the right price for people still buying the whole batch, in perfect correlation with the current exchange rate. If they priced the units let's say a 20% higher, maybe they would have a problem selling all the units. I just think your not putting yourself in their shoes. For the timetable they are delivering and BFL not giving guidance, it is correctly priced for the time being. You need to look long term and think about why you are purchasing these units. Am I tantalized about the prospects of getting a great ROI, of course but I am also prepare to run these units over 1-2 years+ if I need too and then upgrade to Gen2+. I believe Avalon will at at this for a while and I know they have tricks up their sleeves so in the end you need to ask yourself, do you trust BitSyncom/Avalon, their intentions and principles or not? Yes, like any one else, they could choose to totally screw us over but that is the risk you have to bear or not. At the point, it doesn't matter to me, I have made my decision and we will see how my faith placed in their company will pan out. I feel I have made the right choice and continuing to support them will be the right choice for me. If I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it as well and learn. |
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I really wish the BTC to crash hard just after Avalon starts taking order. We shall see what happens to their BTC 88 - 115 payment plan. Greedy bastards.
How are they any more greedy than miners? Based on this thread, miners themselves have no confidence in BTC and view it only as a means to earn USD. Bwahahaha, this the exact reason why I don't respect some of my potential customers, I don't even want money from these people. In afterthought, raising the price it must stopped a lot people were purchasing because how brainless the profit was, now there is some math and faith involved. Like I said, I really wish the BTC to crash once you have your ordering started - will see where your lecture goes. Just wanted to point out, that with the development done and they are basically assembling and ordering wafers, I am sure they are still profitable at BTC88/$10 USD as well as BTC88/$60 USD. |
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I really wish the BTC to crash hard just after Avalon starts taking order. We shall see what happens to their BTC 88 - 115 payment plan. Greedy bastards.
How are they any more greedy than miners? Based on this thread, miners themselves have no confidence in BTC and view it only as a means to earn USD. Bwahahaha, this the exact reason why I don't respect some of my potential customers, I don't even want money from these people. In afterthought, raising the price it must stopped a lot people were purchasing because how brainless the profit was, now there is some math and faith involved. I assume that was the feeling. Many are finding out what happens when you deal with a principled business person. I was "really?" at first, but then after thinking about it, it didn't seem bad. With a ROI of 6-12 months, you know they will keep the gear on the network for that time, keeps it just the much more secure. Hope people are looking at other motives than just profits. |
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Thoughts: Glad for the update. Batch #3: I do think the price is a little steep, I was expecting in the $3-4,000 range. Yes they could of maintained the price but they do deserve a profit for the hard work they provided. I do think that at current exchanges rates for USD, they are trying to limit single large orders. They also could raise the price because they are now developing Generation 2 Avalon on a more efficient chip and upfront costs are even more capital intensive ( this is what I think). I likely will be participating in Batch #3 as well, I want Avalon to continue development so its worth the price if they continue to develop. Yifu is correct that Batch #1 customer are the real heroes by putting their money where there mouth was when BFL was showing the Big Guns. Heck, I am going to start learning Mandarin tonight (Rosetta doesn't offer Cantonese  ). Dalkore
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I am doubtful on the invitations, it may be a way to reserve your spot so we don't create another DDoS attack on their servers. Yifu said a main stated goal was to secure the network by getting as many units into as many hands as possible. That is a reason for the 3 unit limit on this last batch (yes, I know some people got around this).
There was a 3 unit limit on batch 2 or will be on batch 3? Do you have a link to more info on this? On batch #2 it was 3. It has not been announced for Batch 3. |
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Lol at this off topic discussion, anger is really just about managing expectations and being realisitic. A lot of anger is just compensating for insecurity and anxiety which can stem from very unrealistic ideas and views and thought processes. Imagine nerds having social anxiety and staying home all day lol, anger a lot of times is their only coping mechanism to break out of their shell and interact with other human beings because you can't be scared when you're angry. A lot of nerds will self sabatoge as well to fuel their own hatred, because the adrenaline release increases their mental stimulation and gives them that edge. You know how I overcame my anger? asspennies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1Q7F23DxMFunny you think we are all nerds in a basement. Funny thought. |
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I am doubtful on the invitations, it may be a way to reserve your spot so we don't create another DDoS attack on their servers. Yifu said a main stated goal was to secure the network by getting as many units into as many hands as possible. That is a reason for the 3 unit limit on this last batch (yes, I know some people got around this).
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John we're talking about two different things. "Volume" is the count of trades over a period of time. It should always be a whole number. No it isn't. Think about how utterly worthless that would be as a metric. You trade 1 order of 100,000 BTC = 1 volume? I trade 100,000 orders of 1 satoshi each (0.001 BTC total) = 100,000 volume? What use would that be as a metric? VOLUME on any currency exchange is the amount of currency traded. MtGox measures the BTC volume (i.e. the total BTC traded in the prior 24 hours). +1 |
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I was reading Money A History edited by Jonathan Williams today for fun. This passage on 17 th century goldsmiths first lending against their gold deposits stood out (my emphasis in bold): In 1676 an anonymous pamphlet was published on the Mystery of the New Fashioned Goldsmiths or Bankers. The writer deplored the goldsmiths’ move into the ‘unlawful practices’ of lending money at high rates of interest, claiming that they would charge double or treble interest for discounting bills of exchange, according to whether ‘they found The Merchant more or less pinched’. Such men surely could not be trusted, and the writer hoped that ‘people will suddenly come to their wits, and begin to examine why a Goldsmith-banker should be better Security than another man, or fitter to be trusted for ten times more than he is worth… So the modern advent of paper lending initially received a great deal of backlash. Sound familiar? Nope, Bitcoin can not be inflated like that. Sounds like we have a major improvement in some respects  . |
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i just recived my avalon today
and the usb hub is broken
can i use any usb hub ?
Where are you located? Mind if I update the Batch #1 list? |
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Until we have official designation under the tax code, I do not believe he should need to declare it at this time.
That's a very dangerous strategy! If you need to buy a lot of USD, make sure you talk to an accountant. I've never sold bitcoins for dollars and hope I never will. I had no idea I was interested in money until I had the opportunity to use it freely without running afoul of arbitrary, confusing, detailed, and sometimes retroactive rules. It was a chilling effect; the potential gains from managing money properly were outweighed by the risk of imprisonment if I messed up. Every time an accountant or lawyer said "it depends" I cringed. No way do I want to go back to that minefield. This was just an opinion not a strategy. I agree however, you should talk to a qualified financial professional about these questions. You don't want to be caught in a tough position. D |
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Bitcoin is the only available massively-adapted, recognised and guaranteed facility to preserve your savings . (Period)
Please show this mass adaptation that you perceive. By Bitcoin using networks in a decentralized and public manner, along with creating a fixed supply with a large amount of divisibility, that is the mass adaption. People will find out how useful that is and the number of nodes will increase. |
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I spent 20 years being angry.
I hope not over one thing... That's a long time to hold a grudge. Yes, something very unfair and difficult. I was wronged. The lesson, though, is that my own anger also poisoned me. I'm angry all the time. A lot of people in their 30's and 40's believe it or not still live at home with mommy still washing their underwear and making them dinner. Those are the ones you see on here mouthing off, caps lock on, have no idea what they are talking about, can't spell a word even using a spell check. Those are the guys that have nothing to worry about. No bills to pay, no real stress in life. The biggest thing they have to worry about it is when is mom going to feed them. They're too scared or too cheap to even get their own place and have their own life. These type of people have no reason at all to be angry with anyone. I moved out of mommy's nest at the age of 18. And since I'm not financially rich I've seen just about every bad end of the stick you can think of. Everything is an uphill battle. There is always someone saying no, you can't do that, you will have to wait, it can't be done, denied, whatever. When you actually live life a little the anger can set in and start to be a poison. I've been angry for a while now and probably was much more angry years ago but have gotten much better. I basically just don't think about it and move my thoughts forward. And to think people on here can make me angry or disturb me with posts and verbal words is just funny. It will take a lot more then a message forum to even start me to begin thinking about getting angry even the slightest bit. When I speak with someone for a little bit or read what they have to say a few times it is quite easy for me to tell if they have even begun to live life a little. Anyone that has this experience under their belt knows what I'm talking about. If you are scratching your head, wondering what I'm saying or thinking of a smart ass comment or dig then you just haven't experienced "life" enough yet to get it. Not sure why I even wrote this, but I'm glad to hear you released that poison. How did you do it? Self medicate? Therapy? All on your own? Hey, just curious. I'll answer. I did it through first, reading history books and other assorted old books of non-fiction type and serious fiction. Then writing my feelings as an opinion on a blog I started was my next step. It not only informed me but also gave me the feeling that at least I put my .02 somewhere for others to read. Do that for like the next 3-5 years and see how you feel and get back to me. It really helps, outside of that, be grateful for what you have because it could be a lot worse and smile. Dalkore |
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