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1041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Eredivisie 22/23 - discussion thread on: April 24, 2023, 06:58:22 PM
PSV took out Ajax, pretty unexpected outcome, and they are now on road to secure Champions league next season
Ajax will have to fight for third spot, or they will join Conference league, if AZ overcome them on position 3

Feyenoord is in winning strike in Ere, no matter blow against Roma, they secured another win over Utrecht, and now need five points from next three matches to secure title
I mean considering one is second and one is third, it's not really unusual, or not unexpected. Obviously it looks like we are going to see them not do as well as people expected them to do but it did happen and we are talking about a situation where it will help and benefit people if they think that one team is better when they are betting and Ajax has been historically the better team.

But that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about close enough teams that this could happen. Now that we have seen Ajax lose, I think it is easier to say that being third will be what they need to be happy about because getting to second would be hard, depends on if PSV loses some other game, but it's better to be third than fourth so Ajax should do better.
1042  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Lets Brain storm on how to limit losses... on: April 24, 2023, 10:08:20 AM
In my case, I made a mess with my leaverage setup, and just within some minutes, I lost my asset. It happened the first time, just like magic. While I was just seeing the price go up and down, with just a little volitile movement, everything was gone. I tried it again, but my asset still melted. Trading is not something anyone should venture into without being determined to handle losses, just like in the thread I commented on yesterday about how people sit so long on their losses. Well, after my experience when I tried to learn about trading, I have not tried trading again, but I can try, and I think I will still give it time when I begin to have enough free space.
Leverage and margin trading requires an extreme level of knowledge and experience of markets and technical analysis and trends, one cannot master it by simply starting to trade with no proper experience and knowledge about the tools and set ups that are useful and can be used in the favour of the trader. That's why it's better to just stick to spot trading until you are fully trained.

I've seen people who have enough technical knowledge and abilities to analyse markets and charts and do all sorts of things but they stay away from margin and futures trading because they say it's too much risk.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How is the chance of $PEPE to become the next $SHIB? on: April 24, 2023, 09:19:33 AM
The chance of the $Pepe token becoming the next $Shiba is very high, the growth seems to mimic the growth of $Shiba, I don't know the people behind it because it is a huge amount of money that was used to pump it from nothing to over $100 million Market cap within 2 days of trading for a Meme token. Most of the second and 3rd tier exchanges have listed it, if CoinBase and Binance decide to list it I don't see how this doesn't,t hit a $1 billion market cap
The community doesn't really care who is behind the token and who created it and what utility it provides, etc. All they care about is profit and hyping a token that came out of nowhere and will also go nowhere soon after the hype is over. The money that you are talking about hasn't been used by the team behind it, it was the community who furiously bought this meme coin.

Whether it's Shiba, Babydoge, Pepe, or any other token, they are all useless with almost no utility at all and will significantly lose their value over time only those who invested initially in them will get profits and all others buying with the hype will have to suffer losses.
1044  Economy / Economics / Re: G20 Meet - Always consider Crypto as problem to the monetary world. New update on: April 23, 2023, 04:14:42 PM
Wow, it's like a huge crypto party, and everyone's on the guest list! India's Finance Minister, Nirmala Sitharaman, wants global teamwork to tackle the crypto chaos, like bitcoin. Crypto's like a wild bronco that needs to be roped in. Yee-haw!

The G20 and members agree that a single country can't handle crypto alone. They're fast to face the crypto challenge, and it's fantastic! During India's G20 presidency, they'll tackle a "synthesis paper" on crypto-related matters.

Let's unite and create a solid strategy to manage crypto assets. It's like a superhero alliance, but instead of battling bad guys, they're battling crypto! Can't wait to see the outcome. Trust me, it'll be huge!
I don't consider this as a crypto party because they said that crypto is always a problem. A true crypto party is when all people or country that are involved are into cryptos. Also, not all are invited on this happening but it's said, there is only 20 countries. I don't get it, why you seem to be happy there when they are going to tackle crypto? Are you out of your mind already? LoL.

A single country can ban cryptos but other countries who legalize it can still use it. Maybe they are jealous with that fact and want's that country to join them on their plans about banning crypto for good but I don't think other countries will agree on that when they know that they can benefit with cryptos greatly.
1045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting vs fantasy sports on: April 23, 2023, 01:58:21 PM
Sports betting is best one to earn more money in a short period of time with your sports knowledge.Fantasy sports are not a real football,it was played with assumption of real players in the Internet.Sports betting is sports based on gambling used to entertain us.Gamblers using the sport bets to play based on the trust on their own players experience.The fantasy sports are based on your experience and based on your play.And some games based on pictorial representation and gaming which had betting based on the online games.Gambling is preferred one by the gamblers as compared to the fantasy sports games.
^ I respect your opinion but I think different people here have a different opinions in choosing the best one.
But yet, both sports betting and fantasy sports involve risk and can be approached with caution. But for me, fantasy sports can be fun games and engaging ways to enjoy sports and compete against others, but it is important to recognize that they are not real-life sports and do not involve betting on the outcome of specific games or events. That is probably the reason why sports betting with real players remains on top of these virtual sports games.
Well, fantasy sports might be fun but it's more challenging and difficult since you compete with other players in an imaginative experience of sports, and players where the ones with the best guesses and abilities will stay on the top and win the prizes. So fantasy sports is apparently more difficult to master than sports betting.

In sports betting, all you do is research and analysis about the teams or individuals competing with each other and choose what you think is the best side, and just wait for the outcome, even if you lose, there isn't much effort you will be making during the match.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investment involves being realistic, doesn't it ? on: April 23, 2023, 12:14:03 PM
If someone buys a coin in the spot market, they got nothing to worry about since even if the price drops significantly, they will still have their coins in their wallet and they have the option to keep them until the price recovers back and gets higher than the point of buying so that they can sell.
This strategy is for bitcoin. It doesn't work with most altcoins, even those in the top 10. If you bought Ripple at $3 in 2018, how long do you think you have to wait before your investment returns to cost? It's been over 5 years now, but XRP is still far from that value and it's not certain it will reach those values anytime soon. So the notion that altcoins on the spot market can be held indefinitely until they return to their price values is actually a huge misconception. The only thing you can do in altcoins all the time is sit at a loss, or with those coins that have turned into a mountain of junk and no one else wants them.
Yeah, perhaps. Altcoins are always too risky to be held for long-term, no matter how famous or trusted they are at the moment of buying, you can never really know if you are ever going to get even an ROI after investing in an altcoin. As you said, even some of the coins that used to be in the top 10 are now struggling to reach a good price point.

Those who are to invest in altcoins should always check their history and how they have been doing for the past couple of years at least, if a token is new, it's better to avoid it, but if it's old, a bit of research before the investment should do well.
1047  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I will never own a whole Bitcoin and that's okay on: April 22, 2023, 07:14:03 PM
To summarize, my point is that many of us won't become rich or earn a great deal of money through Bitcoin, but that's okay; money isn't the greatest goal in life. We missed the early stages, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a chance in the future. There's no need to regret anything, coming from someone who was here during the first years and missed the boat. It's completely unnecessary to stress over how to acquire more and go above and beyond by selling stuff or exceeding the budget you can afford. Stick to what you can afford to spend and stick to that plan; don't go to extreme measures; and remember, there are no guarantees in investments.
I can literally relate to the most part of your story and whatever you said. I was also in the same situation back then, came to know about Bitcoin very early, when the price was only about $400 but didn't have any funds to buy, tried my best and earned some back in the days but then spent them not having any idea about the future.

Just like you, I have seen the price soaring high in front of my eyes but could never use it in my favor since I was too young and didn't have any money to buy or anything that I could sell and invest in Bitcoin. Now when things are different, the price is obviously too high.
1048  Economy / Economics / Re: Pay your debt with monkeys! on: April 22, 2023, 04:59:04 PM
The question everyone will be finding answers to right now. What will the Chinas do with a million monkeys? Are they trying to find a cure for something or develop any medicinal drug using monkeys to test-run it? Nobody can't tell because China is a country that you can't question or stop their dealings with other countries.

The only thing  I can say about Chinese is that nothing is quite difficult for them to use as a research tool for a project. They make use of any given thing whether living or not. Although there is something more to this because someone Chinese government can't agree with Sri Lanka to pay off their debt to them with a million monkeys without any ulterior motives.

In my understanding, there much be something entirely to this that the whole world can't tell and the Chinese government is not ready to reveal altogether.
Sri Lankan officials say that they asked for monkeys from different zoos that they have in different cities in China, but that probably is just a cover-up and a made-up excuse from them. The public will surely create their own speculations and stories about how they might use those monkeys that they are demanding from Sri Lanka.

Some say they might eat them, some think they will use them for research purposes just like you said, and there are many other speculations roaming around but no one can really know the actual motive of China behind this strange international trade.
1049  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if BTC won't see ATH again? on: April 22, 2023, 06:35:49 AM
Let's be honest, market do not follow any rules. There is no rule or law that says BTC should reach another ATH next cycle and next after. What if 69K was the maximum it could reach, and for the next years or decades it will be mostly fluctuating between 15k and let's say 40k.

So, let's collect here the reasons why there will be ATH for BTC.
Name one (at least) reason, please.  

Some reasons collected so far:

1. "More than 90% of the people in this world has not yet bought bitcoin, do not worry, the adoption is still continuing. You will still see bitcoin at $100000 ane more."
2. "... as long as fiat inflation is still happening (which means a decrease in purchasing power), you can rest assured that assets like Bitcoin will keep going strong."
3. "We might see multiple ATH in the future once fiat explode. Bitcoin is the alternative and safe haven for people to escape inflation."
Do you want me to only name one reason why Bitcoin will soar high in price eventually? It's very easy, the answer is demand. How can you stop Bitcoin being demanded more and more since we all know that it won't stop spreading around and there are too many people in the world who are yet to make their first Bitcoin purchase, that's one point.

You can simply not stop Bitcoin from becoming more and more popular, and since we know that its supply cannot be changed and is limited, the rule of supply and demand is why Bitcoin will surely be higher in value in the future, though we can't be sure when it will cross it's previous ATH.
1050  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How much you have earned through crypto referral on: April 21, 2023, 05:44:10 PM
Myself started in crypto with sort of referral program, Stellar (now xlm) airdrop back in 2013/14 required fb account to claim airdrop, I'd ask for fb account details from people and would give mobile recharge in return.

Sold those 100k's of stellars for peanuts, in case someone was wondering.

Basically, If you give something in return, people will be more inclined to join under you.

Nowadays, referral programs have gone strict, they reward over consistency of referred person.
You are absolutely right that people basically will only take interest in something you are advertising if they find any benefit it beholds for them too, and that will be the reason why they might agree to sign up under you. No matter how hard you try, if a person doesn't find a service or a platform giving anything to them for signing up or spending any money, they will never do it.

I've seen a lot of people who use this trick to increase their referrals, they ask them to sign up and deposit a certain amount of money and promise them to give them money once they do so, and people do it for the money of course.
1051  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading is perfect work for jobless peoples on: April 21, 2023, 03:58:30 PM
We know that job is something that you could really fully rely since you do have that fix salary on monthly basis which we know that these things cant be applied to  those who do seek for jobs.It doesnt really fit out on
the criteria plus its not something that everyone could be able to do so without having any hardship considering that this isnt a thing that anyone could deal off easily with. Instead of making or earning money, you would rather be losing money instead if you dont be able to make it right.This is why  you should really be thinking up first on whats the risks involved so that you wont really be getting shocked if ever you would
be touching up yourself with some trading sessions, sooner or later you would be able to find out on whats the reality of this.
Some says that we should not rely on our 9 to 5 job. If your goal is to be rich, yes because it's hard to save up if our income is already fixed and most workers are also suffering from a small pay. Most workers are also working per contract. In other words, they can be removed after 3 or more months.

This is why it's important to have other sources of income. Trading is like any other things in which not all people can be good at but we must not afraid to try it. There are so many learning materials online that we can use. Some are hiring a mentor to make things easier. In our first attempt, we can use play money first. When using real money, we can start with a small amount. If things don't run well after several trades. That must be the time to move on.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SEC calls Algorand a security - thoughts? on: April 20, 2023, 06:48:10 PM
Algorand is falling today as expected but will just hold for now.

If we go back down to the December low then I will buy more.

I think they will be ok , just needs to get through this period.
That's right buddy. You shouldn't panic because even me I do believe that Algorand is one of those great projects. The fall can only be temporary and it's due to the panic of some weak Algorand investors after hearing this news but they will regret it later on and will try to go back especially when they see that the price of Algorand is increasing again.

Even if we are not in December where the price at its lowest, you can still do a DCA if you believe on the future potential of this project, the same with what you are doing with your Bitcoin and other top coin investments. Waiting for the bottom can only be a waste of time as it may not happen again.
1053  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Number Of Bitcoin Millionaires Doubles In 2023 on: April 20, 2023, 06:08:45 PM
in trading, no one becomes a millionaire out of thin air. When the price is rising, it's like a pool where people put and put a lot of money, then some people start to take the money out of the pool while others are putting and putting. The one who takes the first, is the winner and millionaire. So, if someone become a millionaire by bitcoin, this means that someone also lost money.
What I want to say is that bitcoin is not a magical money printing machine, trading and holding is a game and in game, we can't have winner without loser.
To what? To confiscate an address with BTC inside? But if the criminal stole it yes and then the BTC or the address must be handed out again to its real owners. Bitcoin trading is highly profitable due to the unstableness of BTC but one must also be familiar on how the price moves.

It's possible for a trader to become a millionaire especially if they are doing this for a long time already or they also bought their BTC once it was still dirt cheap. The same can go with the Bitcoin investor. If you only have 1 BTC now, you can be a millionaire already if you are living on some underdeveloped countries where US dollar rates are high against their local currency.
1054  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I need to get to the bottom of this myself on: April 19, 2023, 05:06:31 PM
Sometimes, under download sectino, website put the Github code of their open-source code. Easy way to check whether a program is open-source or not, is to check their license. Another method is to just google: Is [programname] open source? If answer is yes, then look for their source code. By the way, if you don't trust their executable file and only want to run what you see, then learn how to run from source. Electrum, for example, comes with a tutorial.

By the way, name the wallet you want to know if that's open-source or not, we will help.
I'm pretty sure that he would have shared the name of the wallet within the opening post if he really wanted to, but since he didn't do that, he probably didn't want to disclose that information publicly for any reason that he might have. Also, I didn't understand your reference about checking the license of the software to know if it's open-source or not.

I also don't think that one needs to first Google if a wallet or any program or project is open-source or not, all they need to check is their website and to try and find their repository which contains the source code. If one understands a bit of coding and can identify if they have their source code open to the public, they can identify whether the project is open-source or not.
1055  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is improving I guess? on: April 19, 2023, 04:35:45 PM
We are more likely to experience better end of the year, as of last two weeks Bitcoin was $23,000 but I can see some impressive changes hopefully the ends or mid of the year will make significant changes in price. Though am not excited much because  even if it pumps I might not enjoy the fat price, I bought when the price is high but now you will pity my wallet. Anyway we're sure of better 2023.
Ops I expected to to have return back to update the thread with the current state of things with Bitcoin,  as a lot have changed lately and I must say we are in for more surprises from Bitcoin in thos years 2023, this is the most fun time because of how Bitcoin struggle all through the year 2022 with all the market crisis that impeded a lot on the price movement pf Bitcoin in an uptrend directions.

To be honest with you, I am too positive that this year 2023 will bring along with it a lot of market differences for Bitcoin and that will be in the most positive dimension that will trigger other asset price. Even if the fed or sec come up with their planned anti crypto regulations it wouldn't delay Bitcoin in 1/bit.
Government regulations have never been that big of a hurdle for Bitcoin when it comes to its price and the pace it increases, what makes a difference is the supply and demand and the money flow that drives volume in and out of Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market in general, if there is a delay in that, that's something to worry about.

I believe we are going to see some correction happening very soon, so we must be mentally and financially prepared for that. If it doesn't happen, things will be much better to the eye of the normal Bitcoin holder living in some part of the globe holding his mobile in his hand all the time watching the price.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: NFT Speculation on: April 19, 2023, 03:22:41 PM
maybe the NFT period has faded, and if we can't take advantage of the ongoing trend, then we will lose because no one is buying it, especially at high prices. especially during a bearish season like today, of course many people will prefer to buy the main coin in investing, and that is clear in terms of the security of the capital used, especially at a low price that makes us more confident to hold the main coin in making a profit
well, I think NFT is still struggling in the cycle of finding practical value for application and acceptance of market demand.  That means that the hype of the NFT after exaggerating speculative opportunities has created pressure on its characterization reception.  Therefore, its loss or gain will be realized in the future (in 2025 or later i guess) as its significant entity in the cryptocurrency market.
I am sure that's too long. NFTs are not new anymore and besides, before the developers create an NFT, they must think if what is a better concept of it, not that they will create the NFT first although I think they can still modify it and make it a better version. There are so many NFTs created in different fields i.e arts, music, games and others. Some are successful and accepted by the public but some are just a useless piece of image.

Yeah, the hype on NFTs are too much or can be said to be exaggerated because of their value which are too expensive. They will surely be remembered in the future, not only because of that but also because they have been a part of the crypto.
1057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How not having money helped my Bitcoin journey on: April 18, 2023, 04:32:51 PM
Skeptical about how the OP mined BTC on a Pentium 4 PC, but keeping that aside, I am happy to know that bitcoin helped them in their journey of life. Getting a job after college is a tough time that every student has to go through with differences in every field, so such times are often depressing and leading to bad habits to form. One good habit that we can all form is bitcoin investment and going through the campaigns that go on here if you have a flair for writing and engaging in discussions. It can become a second source of income and support you.

Keep in mind that methods to earn are always there, but we need to be active and seek them out, Bitcoin is one method to be paid in.
Being a student when I first came to know about Bitcoin, I can surely vouch for what you said, maybe not about the earning part, but the struggle to find the ways that can actually help you earn something, and that struggle was probably the reason how I stumbled upon this forum too which I can totally call a life-changing experience for me.

I remember, I used to claim Bitcoins from free faucets initially and was always in pursuit of finding ways how I can earn and get more since just like OP, I didn't have money to buy it, maybe I couldn't manage to earn a lot of it, but that struggle surely kept be busy and away from all bad habits and bad gatherings that I might get into if it wasn't for this.
1058  Economy / Gambling / Re: justbit.io asks for KYC (their site say NO KYC) then confiscates my winnings on: April 18, 2023, 03:02:50 PM
your ideas on casino newsletters and TOS adjustments, just tremendous! We gotta be in the know, folks, about anything that might hit our accounts or the joy of the game. Putting those casino newsletters on the whitelist - believe me, folks, that's the winning ticket to getting the latest intel, dodge those pesky issues.
Newsletters are not the appropriate way to inform customers about changes in the service's ToS. Most of the time, newspapers, as well as promotions emails, tend to be spammy and most customers do not subscribe to them. The company must send a dedicated and formal email to all its customers to be sure they are aware of the changes.
Besides, those changes and new rules shouldn't have a retroactive effect and the ToS page should include the date when it was last updated. This is what professional companies do.
Newsletters are exactly not for that purpose at all, which website uses newsletters to send important updates and messages that are a must-read to their customers? If a casino or a platform makes the excuse that they've sent the update through newsletter, they are either lying or they never wanted their customers to read the updates in the first place.

An email and a in-web notification should be sent to all players about any changes that have been made in any part of the platform that may be of concern to the players or have an impact on their gameplay or overall experience.
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where do you look for information about new project/coin? on: April 18, 2023, 05:31:00 AM
where to find New Projects/New Coin is from this forum or websites like Coinmarketcap or Coingecko.

There is also a website for ICO info like ICOdrop and I can get other info from Bounty and Airdrop but mostly I participated on community Venture Capital.

and of course, before investing in any project/coin new or old you need to Do Your Own Research first

1. Roadmap
2. The Purpose
3. The Developer and the community
4. Whitepaper and Tokenomic a

and lot more
Do you also invest in ICOs of new projects? Is it really worth it? I genuinely want to know because as long as I remember, it's been a long time since I heard that a project has provided good returns to their ICO investors since most of them are either not good enough to survive in the market or they survive, they can't manage to gain any value at all.

I'm not talking about all the projects, of course, I know that there are good ones two where the team has a real vision and the project is well-planned and also promoted in a sophisticated way that gains genuine investors, but that isn't the case for most.
1060  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to be more useful in this forum on: April 17, 2023, 06:42:05 PM
The ideology is the same as when you study at school, if you care about the material the teacher teaches, at least you will understand some of what the teacher teaches.
You have big capital to develop, namely determination. As long as you are willing to learn and hone your skills, sooner or later you will be able to contribute to the forum.
A simple but effective way that you can do is read, study, and be more active in discussions with seniors, that's the first point you need to improve.
Maybe he should skip the part where he will need to be more active in discussions with seniors, there is obviously nothing wrong with that if he does it but it will be better for him to first make himself knowledgeable enough to start making posts and take part in discussions, otherwise, he might end up earning a place for himself among the spammers' pool.

Gaining knowledge shouldn't only be done through the forum, some users tend to believe that they will learn everything from here and they don't look at other sources, that is wrong, you need to explore everything on the internet for what interests you. If it's Bitcoin, go ahead and read everything you can about it and that will only increase your knowledge.
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