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10401  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: December 06, 2016, 05:54:27 AM
we definitely need a friendly banking services but that is not at all offered so far. Then why we keep on trusting our bank system.
Hopefully in future we may not require a banking services for our financial needs. Yes only for loans and interests we are going for bank. But if we are able to get loan from other people and banks may be stopping paying interests. So, just a bitcoin wallet will be more than enough in future. No longer needed trusting our existing banking systems.

To remove all your dislikes with the banking system, hope for a bitcoin exchange company per country that can do a direct deposit and withdrawals alone without the help of any payment processor or banking services. It's kinda more hassle in my own view and lots of works will be made since people will rely only to that exchange to process their deposits and withdrawals. Some exchanges using bank service in able to make deposits and withdrawals more comfortable and convenient.

In the case of OP, it's a different story so don't take it as general. We all don't know the case behind that OP's concern so we can't just conclude all things accurately and precisely.
10402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash price will go upto $1000 [Hold your coins] on: December 06, 2016, 05:46:48 AM
I got some leaked news [cannot share the source] but believe me zcash going to up again.Just hold your coins or you will be regret.
Source tells zcash will go to atleast $700 or might be $1000 at the end of this year.

I understand that after some disappointment to those people who buy at high price, they will really expect for a great news again but at the same time they must accept the taste of reality that some things are not meant to happen again.

Leaked news can't dictate the possible outcome of a crypto price. It will depend on people's response and it's all about market activity at all. Just hoping that people will accept the possible fact someday.
10403  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 2017 Predictions on: December 06, 2016, 04:54:47 AM
Bitcoin price this 2017 could range  to 1000-1300$ becuase of the increase of demand a lot of new users will be entering this 2017.  We need another 4 years for bitcoin to go 2000$,and that is when another halving occur.

if in 2017 there are many adoption from people, then we don't need 4 years for bitcoin to go $2000, because the supply for the bitcoin is reduce but the demand is high and this will give impact for the price will be go up.

Supply is as is, not reduced nor has been added. It's just that coins are distributed well to different persons worldwide.

Also for how much adoption does it need for bitcoin price to reached $2000 and why 4 years is the expected period for bitcoin price to go $2000? You mean the next halving. Not a good basis or reference though. Also while adoption is increasing, expect also some increase of usage hence the price will become balanced, moderate to average pump and dump.
10404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: December 06, 2016, 03:51:37 AM

gambling are the way to lost or win money quickly / game of chance. while trading are the way to improve your skills to predict the price over the markets and gives you a little bit profit also a little bit lost if you have a wrong prediction.

gambling did not required skills at all you can still play it freely while trading required.

The statement is generally one sided. Some gambling type requires skills too and I know it's obvious you know that. If all gambling types are based on luck then why there are person who able to make profits in those skill based gambling games for a long term gambling. They are lucky every time? Applied skills and analyzation together with luck is their essential recipes to make a good food.

Trading can also be considered as gambling since money is at stake here. You can win lose like you said in the definiton of gambling. If trading isn't a gamblinga after all then why there are losses. It's a gambling type that requires skill and analyzation.
10405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 06, 2016, 02:47:20 AM
What do you think of Raptors vs Cavs tonight ?

Better stay away from Moneyline and bet on Over Points.

Like I said, Toronto Raptors comes in a large lead win against the Atlanta Hawks in their homecourt. The momentum is still there and likely there is a chance they can crash Cleveland Cavaliers in their home. Cavaliers, which came from a 3 game losing streak at the road will surely having a hard time again to steal road games against the Raptors.

What I see? Expect some massive rainbow shots from both sides which will result for a high scoring game. So I consider that betting on Over Points is likely the best option.

I think it's good time to bet for the cavs here tbh, considering their losing streak thus most public bets will go with the raptors and that's what wise guys always wanted and gamblers know what happened when betting against the wise guys.

Really difficult game to predict, Cavs are playing the worst basketball of the season so far while Toronto is doing quite well. As this matchup is already special due to the rivalry between the two teams after the East finals I think there's a chance Cavs wake up at home and send a message. However Toronto would be thinking the same and they are in much better shape.

I would put my money on the Cavs though.

Cleveland Cavaliers did well. 5 minutes left before the game ends as of Im typing this and I think they will sealed this game. For a safe bet, I really don't recommend the Moneyline option to minimize the risk. But hey, on the other hand, Over Points should be reached before the game ends. A high scoring game for both teams as I expected.

Really a monster performance by Cavaliers' trio. The game is still on progress and look how big their productions are.
10406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What kind of features are you looking for in an altcoin? on: December 06, 2016, 02:31:32 AM
Just remove those promises or disclaimers that their crypto launched will make people rich someday or will jump out quickly in a conclusion that all in all, coins will be great for making money. They must care for the development of the coin at any cost and not to make money as the main purpose why it was launched.

Also when pump happened and hype began to minimize after that, Devs must still intact with the project and don't ever let it go just because it established a low volume.
10407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advantages and Disadvantages use cryptocurrency like Bitcoin for online gambling on: December 05, 2016, 06:23:33 PM
For advantage, Im specifically pointing out the comfortability of using bitcoin in any forms of gambling online. Why I found it comfortable? Bitcoin is somehow easy to be accessed by everyone so in here, gambling in any kinds of bitcoin gambling site is just one step away and will take only few steps before we can start. And since bitcoin can be earned by doing various methodsn, we aren't harming our fiat money here in most of th cases.

The disadvantage is, bitcoin gambling site are not regulated compare to fiat gambling site that running legitimately under some government terms. So if ever there is a fraud activity, we can't stop that. So play at your own risk. Comfortability in bitcoin has an equal value of the word opposite from it.
10408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Have You heard TheBillionCoin? on: December 05, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
The trading platform is working 100%.. The situation now is buyers are more using Peer to Peer transaction than the trading platform.There are still buyers but only few compared to numbers of sellers. When people will use to trade (Buying) in the platform,  sell orders will be filled smoothly.

This coin will make people billionaire in the future isn't it? Why such there are lots of bearish activity happening right now on your side? People who able to bought TBC back then wants to dump their holdings now since they want to take advantage of it's current price. They know it will crashed someday contrary for those TBC fanatics sayings that this currency will lead people to richness.

TBC can't listed itself in some of the small exchanges so how far it will goes if only on their own trading platform will perform the exchange. This is really too much. Bitcoin back then didn't have a great promise like that by some speculators but you guys on TBC, the moment it was created, it was already assumed precisely that it will make people rich.
10409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 05, 2016, 02:16:26 PM
What do you think of Raptors vs Cavs tonight ?

Better stay away from Moneyline and bet on Over Points.

Like I said, Toronto Raptors comes in a large lead win against the Atlanta Hawks in their homecourt. The momentum is still there and likely there is a chance they can crash Cleveland Cavaliers in their home. Cavaliers, which came from a 3 game losing streak at the road will surely having a hard time again to steal road games against the Raptors.

What I see? Expect some massive rainbow shots from both sides which will result for a high scoring game. So I consider that betting on Over Points is likely the best option.
10410  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: starting 2017 how can i get 1-2 BTC A Month ( Cloud mining ) on: December 05, 2016, 01:15:42 PM
Hi All  BTC Miners

I tried to calculate it so many times yet i couldn't   Huh ,

About - Cloud mining - using any site - ebot , hashflare , genesis mining , onehasher , or whatever ; I aim for hashflare i dont know why

BTC is now about 730 $  , assume i want to invest in -CM- how much Hash Power i must get Per ( Tera\h )

i think to reach   1-2 BTC a month that would be great for me at starting .



Again How Much hash power to  1 or 2 BTC a month  ??




Let's say all cloudmining are legit and really pays, you need to put a very big amount, yes lots of thousands dollars, to be able to get that amount you want to earned "MONTHLY". And take note that it's not a fixed amount every month due to mining difficulty that changes drastically and the current rewards.

So basically not worth a shot, at least for me. Even building a set of rigs won't help. Better put that big capital in other type of investment whether online or real life investment which realistically can give you a BTC1 a month and will last for long term investment purposes.
10411  Economy / Gambling / Re: i want invest some Bitcoin . on: December 05, 2016, 06:21:12 AM
I found many topics at This forum and found that moneypot is best option to invest .
But here i am curious about its minimum deposit and return . And how much i will get profit in how many days ??



What threads or topics are you talking about? I rarely seen some post that Moneypot is the "BEST" option in terms of investing in a gambling sites bankroll. Take note that even house always win, it can guarantee an investor a sure profit. All winnings depends on player bets and the own calculation of profits of a certain site.

There is no regular basis of profits on a regular period of time since like I said it all depends on players activity. Investing in a gambling site bankroll surely will give a person a profit but it's kinda not decent and not worth your wait.

From Moneypot itself:
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How risky is this?


Extremely. You are risking your entire investment amount, and you should never invest more than you would be ok with losing. Furthermore, your risks are compounded by counter-party risks. You have no way of knowing we won't steal all your money (even though we promise not to), or that there isn't an abusable weakness that would allow an attacker to unnoticed drain the bankroll. There are a lot of nighmare possibilities, invest accordingly

I found many topics at This forum and found that moneypot is best option to invest .
But here i am curious about its minimum deposit and return . And how much i will get profit in how many days ??


If  your talking about  hyip  sites,  the longest day that you ll be paid was only for 3 days,after that you will not recieve any payment coming from them afterwards . Its better to gamble than investing on hyip site. Cause investing your btc on unknown site could.be riisky.

Don't force yourself to post when you don't have an idea about the topic. There are lots of threads outside.
10412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you were a developer. What would you do to make money? on: December 05, 2016, 03:32:03 AM
Question:

If you were a developer and you were able to develop anything, what do you think is the easiest way to make money?

Some ideas:
-Altcoin exchange
-Develop a cryptocurrency
-Bitcoin/altcoin marketplace

I am a developer and I need to start making extra money to pay medical expenses so I would appreciate your help.

Developer needs lots of money before they can established a good bitcoin or altcoin exchange, so on bitcoin or altcoin marketplace. It's not as easy as you think. You need a team and staff here. You will have to pay for some things associated in that kind of business or investment. Also you just state that you need an extra money for a sole purpose, so if ever you develop a crypto it will just make your coins a shit one since you are focus on getting the money and not on development.

If you are earnings decenlty in your job just continue it. If you really need some extra money then find a part time in a real world. It's way better as above ideas you mentioned needs more time to be matured and you didn't even sure if it will become success.
10413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 04, 2016, 11:58:54 PM
Just viewing some of the game results yesterday and I was surprised by the large lead margin that Toronto Raptors did with the Atlanta Hawks. This is unusual since Atlanta Hawks is somehow not an average team people can consider.

Looks like they will give Cleveland Cavaliers a close game match. The momentum of their recent game at home will surely continue at later game aginst the Lebron and the gang.

Moneyline odds are so close for both of the team. Really worth to try.
10414  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the Bitcoin price ever drop back down to $500? on: December 04, 2016, 11:31:38 PM
Do any of you that follow the price of Bitcoin closely think that the price will ever drop back down to $500 or something close to it? And why or why not?

LITERALLY YES
, it is poosible for bitcoin price to go back at $500 level and even lower from that. Those said events or technical aspects that mentioned in some replies here are those things that will block the bitcoin price reached that level. But for the possibility, we can't erase the fact that the price has a chance to go back again at $500 or below level. If there's a big event that can push the price up, there is also a big event that can push the price down.

So for now, chances of hitting $500 again is really low. Bitcoin will emerge as years passes by. Stability is the key for bitcoin price to move from one level to another.
10415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We need to STOP The Billion coin! on: December 03, 2016, 06:58:09 PM
People really wants a big money without putting some work. Here in PH especially in crypto groups, TBC is widely known and many people selling their TBC with a promise that this kind of shit will make people billionaire soon. Take note of the word "billionaire". Of course because people wants a shortcut to success so they will enter the trap and will accept that words as a wisdom and the answer for all their money problem.

Do they really think it's easy as they think? Bitcoin with lots of developments and suppport by the community reached around $1000 as it's ATH and they are hoping for TBC to became worth billion someday. What a pathetic thinking they have. The winners here are the DEVS.
10416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we start new year in $800+ or remain in $700+ on: December 03, 2016, 06:05:28 PM
with the new change in price moving up to 760-770 USD i think $800 price by the end of this month is easily possible now.

what do you think is needed for this rise to happen or ensure it?

I see $800 won't be reached by the end of the year but rather half a month before the year ends. Average bitcoiner will surely do a bitcoin conversion to participate in the Season of Givings, yes Christmas season. Although it can only affect some small percentage out of the whole, it can somehow create a small margin of price decrease that can considered as a bait to take profits of the others.

As long as we are on the floor of $700 it's more I want. We will reach $800 and even breach that someday. Just build stability in any price level first before jumping on the next level.
10417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: December 03, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
I was wondering if you make bets on sports that you have no experience in?

lets say you have never watched boxing, or soccer even, would you still consider betting on these matches?
how will you do it then? random or will you use a tipster service?

I was thinking about getting into sports betting but the games are countless and i don't know which one to choose and i don't know anything about majority of sports.

Definitely no and will not. I can earned decent profit at sports I have known so why will I bother to bet on other sports which I don't have a knowledge. Being greed is not good sometimes. Also instead of putting any amount on the sports you didn't know, why just add it on the bet you will placed on a specific sports you really know.

Im not an ethusiast of a tipsters too because I saw some analysis of their as lack of nutrition especially when they are stating analyzation in the sports I really have knowledge. And what's worst about their picks? They are just picking without any reason or factors why they chosen a bet like that.
10418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bittrex or livecoin? on: December 03, 2016, 05:30:27 PM
Guys which exchange is better for you? Livecoin a almost dubble volume trade!👍🏼
Why guys so much like bittrex?

Why only that two exchanges you consider? Care to share the reasons?

Currently Im only playing at Poloniex in terms of playing in those altcoin that really established a good volumes throughout the majority in the world of altcoin exchange site. Their features of removing those alts which established a low volume is the one that I like. I use Cryptopia on the other hand for those alts that not has listed yet on Poloniex. In terms of support, I can give them both a 5 ♣♣♣♣♣.
10419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 03, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
Steve Kerr Admits Marijuana Use To Treat Chronic Back Pain

Didn't have an idea about the legality of this drugs in the US but how about against the NBA terms and laws? Well he said that it's was last year so maybe no issue after at all after Kerr admits that.



I was amazed in the game earlier between Cleveland Cavaliers and Chicago Bulls. Really worth to watch as the game is really close. Bulls sealed the win with 111 points over Cavaliers' 105.
10420  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC at $1,000 by Christmas? on: December 03, 2016, 03:31:02 PM
Will we find this gift under our tree?

I see no but hey we already have a gift under our tree by looking how far the price went up before the year ends. It's more thankful isn't it than a quick jump to the moon. It must maintain first the resistance if the price will reached $800 or $900 before breaching the $1000 mark.

Talking about the reality, average bitcoiner will surely use some of their bitcoin to take part of the Christmas Season. Since bitcoin value is quiet high to consider, I see some people will take advantage of it and use it primarily for regular spendings that is present during the said season.

My own speculation as always.
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