Really? That's funny, I never hear anybody say any of that stuff about Qora. I would go with "just hype" if I was you. Coins are meaningless if you can't get people to use them. We're already having a hard enough time getting people to use BTC.

Yet people actually keep on taking Ristos advice... I guess this speaks volumes about the effectiveness of his and Monero in general's brainwashing tactics... they did quite a good job.

Again, I'm not tying anything to anything. I'm just stating that there is a strong likelihood that world governments will make efforts to regulate cryptocurrency, and when they do, their citizens should be wary.

Uh oh. You've really done it now!!!  

But Spoetnik is correct. Do you remember what happened in 2008? Oh, right, thats when Iceland's banking system collapsed and dragged down the rest of the world with it.. wasn't it? LOL.

No disrespect to any potential Icelandic forum members.  

We aren't the ones pushing for government regulation.

Even if the technology evolves into something different, are you happy with the prospect of bitcoin being regulated into uselessness?

We can already transfer real money wirelessly, its just inconvenient to have to do it through a government and 3rd party intermediary like PayPal or Western Union that demands a cut (which is sometimes pretty substantial). This is why bitcoin has value.

I agree with the devs and community leaders present: changing the number of coins now would be silly. especially to meet the demands of a superstition.

I also agree with you 100%. However, the [ANN] section gets more traffic than almost the entire rest of the site combined, which means it brings in most of the advertising money for the forum.

NAUT - Nautiluscoin

Hedge fund manager/dev Brian Kelly Wants to make cryptocurrency "safe for Wall Street," aka controlled by the exceedingly wealthy and just another tool to subjugate the poor.

Read his article about how bitcoin needs to "grow up" and accept its inevitable rapery by beaurocrats and bankers:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101849169

The problem with new regulation is three-fold:

1. Since public opinion no longer has any effect on the setting of public policy and lobbyists have 100% of the effect, any new legislation with regards to regulating cryptocurrency will be written 100% on behalf of the financial services industry.

2. There is already judicial precedent and laws in place to allow criminal proceedings in cases of theft, money laundering, robbery, extortion and even terrorism as they pertain to cryptocurrency.

3. The existing regulation, system of taxes and fees, mazes of do-nothing bearocracies that demand a cut of every one of your transactions, is what helped necessitate cryptocurrency to begin with. If the U.S. government wasn't so ineffective at regulation and Wall Street didn't have a reputation as being the biggest pot of evil on the planet, people wouldn't _need_ bitcoin!

So the fact that Kelly wants to build a cryptocurrency with Wall Street ties and pro-bitcoin regulation as its main thrust (also check out its "Digishield" component: it guards the coin against the forces of the free market lol) is mindbendingly ironic to me.

My fear is that he's simply acting as a trojan horse to get the community acclimated to the idea of a Wall Street takeover, which some might see as a good thing, but what it will actually mean is that the novel advantages of cryptocurrency offers to society will be erased.

I agree with you 100%, however as you pointed out, the alt section isn't going anywhere.

The altcoins that are actually succeeding already have their own forums and could survive without this one.

@Spoetnik: I can't offer technical resources but I can offer you spiritual ones... meaning I am with you "in spirit."

I am certain I could pretend to be you if I wanted to.

hilariousandco, what happened dude? this used to be you...

Neither would I. Just because you post something you wrote in a different thread six months earlier it absolves you of the probability that you wanted to sell your account? It does not. 


It is, it has.

I swear this place is just a false flag operation set up by the government to track thieves and scoundrels.

I bought a t-shirt... of a cryptocurrency.

Hey technically lynch mobs are legal up until the point of the lynching...

OK well maybe not.

Well here's the thing: I'd like to believe that if you're honest, you have nothing to worry about. If you're a liar, you deserve whatever pain and misery you bring upon yourself.

I understand its not that simple ALL the time and there is vicious, ruthless competition out there (check out my new sig), but let's face it, this place has been completely overrun by scammers.

I make alterations to my portfolio rarely these days but when I do I recognize the above fact.

ps: my sig is just for temporary lulz

No, but I should take a page out of your book and at least attempt to be more civilised.


Now that's just good, wholesome fun for the whole family right there.

Finally, a signature campaign I can get behind.

You forget that the way people like Brian Kelly work is to make you feel good as he is scamming you so you don't notice it or you're not really mad about it. He is taking your money but making you feel like you are getting a BJ, so, the ride is worth it, right?

His reputation is he's a shifty pile of shit, because CNBC is a pile of shit, because Wall Street is the biggest, stinkiest, evilest pile of shit of all-time. He sells garbage for a living and he knows it.

A lynch mob around every corner is an entirely appropriate response given the flood of criminals that have swamped this place.

I got one. Why do greedy people think they are smart?

Don't they realize that they are stupid for making the world around them a worse off place to live in, thereby directly devaluing the meaning of their own existence?

If not, why not?

Sorry but a lot of people here really are that hard-headed or contrarian, that's why I didn't recognize the sarcasm.


The only thing this says to me is you don't have much experience with Wall Street. Since they have been around for much longer and are in much greater numbers, they are much more efficient scammers than what goes on in this forum.


The entire cryptocurrency scene could be bought up by a medium-sized hedge fund. We are talking about a tiny sliver of market capitalization compared to Wall Street. You can put every single crypto exchange together and multiply their worth by 10 fold and still not approach the valuation of Lehman Brothers pre-collapse.


OK now you are trying to speak for everybody. I am currently sitting on a net BTC profit, so I don't know who you are talking about.


Its just a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what is taken from the poor to feed to the rich on Wall Street on a daily basis.


Why do we need additional "regs" to enforce pre-existing law? Theft is theft. We don't need new regulation, we simply apply the regulation we already have. Get it? No, of course not. You will never get it because for you getting it means admitting defeat.


Really? You are saying there is a bigger thief on the planet than JP Morgan? Please, do go on...


What I learned is old people just can't get it... It doesn't even matter how physically old you are. If you are mentally old, you won't get it.

I realize this is the wrong thread to be bringing this up but its stupid to tie 1 coin to 1 gram of MJ when the quality varies so tremendously. Are we getting 1 g of Sour Diesel/Trainwreck or 1 g of Shake?


Then you take all the silver that idiot is giving away, even if you have to push the price of monero up to $1.50. 1 gram of silver would be a much more appropriate unit.