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10461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin on: July 26, 2016, 08:21:35 AM
There's no such thing as illegal drugs. There are only differences in individual freedom concerning drug use. Portugal has great personal freedom, Japan has none. Most countries fall somewhere between Portugal and Japan.

Instead of asking yourself if drugs should be legal or illegal ask yourself if you should have more personal freedom and control over your own destiny or less. If you choose less you belong in Japan.

People use Bitcoin to buy drugs in the hope that Bitcoin can safely return their personal freedom in an oppressive country. It can't.
In the Philippines under the current administration you cannot easily buy drugs because you will get killed once caught, there is no due process anymore as there are a lot of drug lords in the country and they said it was the president who orders summary killings for those found peddling drugs.

The P.I. has never really been known as a bastion of freedom. They were an American colony until 1946 and are very Americanized. As against drugs as America is I would expect the P.I. to be pretty similar.
Well, this current administration is different maybe as I have seen in the news or in youtube it is real that even some generals are involved in drugs and how would that be possible that only in this current presidency that many drug involve has surrendered, I think that is a history for the current admin.
10462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: July 26, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
What do you guys think?
Since the price keeps going lower the whole day.

Also why is it going lower ?

Just because of the people who want to sell rather than buying. If the sellers are more bigger than the buyers, literally the price will be lowered. But if the buyers are bigger than the sellers, then that's the only time the price will be higher. The price of bitcoin varies about the investors. Sometimes, other people also stocks some bitcoin in their wallets and after some time, they would rather sell it when the price is so high. So that's a good idea to gain profit.
As of now the price is very stable because most of the users now are keep holding and hoping for the pumping of price and also the whales are waiting for the massive adoption to have moving of its price.

Yeah everyone holding their bitcoin and waiting the price will increase and they sell their bitcoins. Price is stable, this is the right time to buy some coins because price will definitely increase in future.
Only investors with ball will buy bitcoins when the price is stable, usually most investors will just buy when there is a panic selling that would cause the price to fall as they believe that price will back up accordingly.
10463  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the Future of Bitcoin ? on: July 26, 2016, 08:08:40 AM
We are hoping for a good future of bitcoin, there are many prediction about the future of bitcoin there is positive and negative but i advice to the users to always think positively because we need this bitcoin to help us in terms of financial that is why im believing that bitcoin has a great future.
I also really hope that a better future for bitcoin. I think bitcoin will also continue to grow. It can be seen from the development of bitcoin prices and now more and more people are familiar with bitcoin.
We cannot prevent that from happening because bitcoin is getting more popular and more adopters are coming in which would make the price to grow higher and that is very beneficial to the economy as a whole and the investors who are willing to hold their coins for a longer period of time.
10464  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 26, 2016, 08:00:27 AM
Getting rich is very hard you will need perseverance to achieve your goal. It requires you to have a multiple source of income the number 1 is you need to have a stable business which have a potential to grow the other is to have a multiple investments.

Reaching that goal would be hard and it takes time to achieve of being rich in future. If youre wise enough and make do a lot of work or business maybe its possible it only depends how you plan or managed your life that makes you profitable. Thinking to the future, do savings everytime  and dont waste every penny you made and think of business that would give you leverage income.

it is all about using your brain my friend. it doesn't matter how much you work, you can work all day and night but never get anywhere in your life as long as you don't use your brain and make wise plans. and it is not really hard either, you should just use the experience of others and every plan that you want to make, consult with others and think about pros and cons of that plan.
Everything is easier said than done. Without motivation, even if you have the brains, you won't get too far in life. In fact, the rich people I know are those who put a lot of hard work in their chosen field, and being smart about their money decisions and taking risks from time to time.
Yes, you are right, we have a lot of plan but we can never reach our goal if we don't implement our plan. And I believe along the way you will be facing a lot of obstacles that would give you a problem in the implementation process but you never give up because you will not succeed when you quit.
10465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: July 26, 2016, 07:48:30 AM
I think gambling not makes us cry because we choose to gamble and we know the risk that we have considering you will lose a lot of money. That is why gambling brings me entertainment and not to cry.
At first we know but in the end we still realize that we are not doing the right thing. With careless or irresponsible gambling that would result to crying in the end as the money that is suppose to be spend for basic needs is spend in gambling and lose it.
10466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 26, 2016, 07:42:57 AM
Gambling is bad to the people who always loss and gambling is good for lucky players.
Thats true tho. Gambling is good as long as you are winning but its bad if you are always loss. You know, thats the problem of other people who play gamble. In frustration instead of stopping, they continue to gamble. Not noticing they have loss anything. They must.control themselves.when to.stop and when start. Gambling is very addictive so self control is necessary yo avoid devastation.


Everyone is playing gambling to make money, and the greed of money will lead people  to loose their money. So you should make a strategy in your mind that how much bets are you placed today and when to stop gambling.  This strategy will be good for a gambler, otherwise you will face a big loss.
Regardless of how good you are in selecting the winners but without proper self control you cannot be successful in gambling. If you are greedy you will not be satisfied by the money you win and you will still make moves to gamble and hoping to win more and would result to a lose always.
10467  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: July 26, 2016, 06:28:54 AM
people always do the error to invest (time or money) when it is too late...
Do not invest (just time) too late in my system...

My system is realistic econnomical...
if you do not like econnomical system...invest on ponzi...(lol)

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You can believe a webmaster who is perhaps already on the net before you were born...
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Still never will I invest with ponzis, I know you can make profit sometimes but when you last in that game you will still lose in the end. That is like gambling but ponzis are scams.

Exactly you cannot earn good profits in long run as majority of them will run away with your investments and scam you with your hard earned coins.
Never include ponzis as a type of investment because it is clearly a scam, only the site owners are getting rich and the investors will be waiting for the reward that would never come. It is like more on gambling rather than legitimate investment.
10468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: July 26, 2016, 06:16:53 AM
My strtegy is very simple. It is called self control. i strt with .01 anytime i get  more than .001 over that amount i immidieately withdraw that ammount into coinbase. this way, i cant get cocky and gamble away huge orofits! Ehat are you guys opinions on this strat
that is a very good thinking. i think through this you can minimize your lost up to some extent. i am also thinking to make such a strategy for my self so that i can also minimize my lost.

Self control is really the best strategy in gambling because if you have self control and discipline you know that gambling is going to lose all your money if you are not going to control yourself.

But if you are going manage it properly and going to control yourself then you know your limits and going to make bitcoins out of it.
Sometimes we all need discipline when playing gambling but we always fail to do it, because our emotions are too powerful to dictate us that we really want to bet again and again. But if you are just a small bettor I guess it is just fine to bet. Just make limitation to yourself.
the most important thing that we can control ourselves, but it is sometimes difficult to control greed, especially when we are in the condition to win, it's hard to stop and wanted to continue to get more. also the amount that is not too much of it is a good thing in the game of gambling.
But it is harder to stop in gambling when you are already losing big and you have the money available for you to bet. Even if the money is not intended for gambling but you have that in your hands you will be tempted to gamble that amount.
10469  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: July 26, 2016, 04:56:31 AM
I'm pretty bad at it and I don't make as much as I used to.   But I don't have credit cards so I don't live beyond my means.  I guess I'm not as bad as I used to be.
About the same story here, never been too good with my money but i have been getting better lately. At least my rent is always up to date and bills paid.

I also don't have any credit cards, got 1 sent to me as soon as i turned 18 i think and it went very bad but that was years ago now so i lernt my lesson the hard way on that.

Since my work hours got cut when sales went down a few months ago i have had to survive from paycheck to paycheck.
I actsually have a lot of credit card debt myself and I'm on a pension. I spend more money than I earned. The real thing that screwed me over is maxing out my credit cards. Now I have little money except what I earn here.

This has become the case for most people with credit,debt has suddenly become seen as a good thing because the interest rates are so low.
Once we adjust there will be a generation or two that never knew interest rates could be so high and have never known 15% in their lives.
There is a reason why car companies are getting into the the business of debt,they can make 5 times more money this way.

Yeah interests are so damn high to others that it is almost like robbing you. 15 percent is a lot of money specially when the price is really high. That could be a month salary of one person or more.
That is why credit card is not really advisable if you are good in managing and controlling yourself. You should always think that credit cards are here to tempt the users to spend more than what they can afford to lose.
Having credit card is not bad because you can use it if you need it but limit your spending and you must depend on your salary bracket and  how much  funds youll need to use for a certain needs   so that you wont get overdropped on your bills. Well, im having also difficulty on handling budget its better to give all to my wife.
Only those who have a very good budgeting technique should have a credit card because if you do not have control on yourself you can easily spend though it is not important anymore and you will just realize when you cannot pay the amortization anymore.
10470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 26, 2016, 04:52:18 AM
There is no safe method to gambling nor are there secrets to success in gambling. Gambling's its risks and luck.

Obviously there isnt, if there was such a method of strategy by which someone could make himself safe from losing anything in gambling then everyone would have been earning thousands of dollars everyday in gambling and no one would make casinos by spending so much capital on it, they invest because they know they will get a lot more then that in just a single day if the site gets attraction.
Then, the answer would be the investment, as a gambler since we cannot defeat the house due to house advantage so we should be wiser now. Invest in a gambling site and let the gamblers lose their money to profit your interest, I think that is the safest and the only way to win in gambling.
10471  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 26, 2016, 03:47:27 AM
Bitcoin is unreliable and risky but has potential to boom. Gold is secure but i will only be worth for in a surplus economics and their has to be a constant demand for it.  So i say just save it. Don't take the risk

Yes that's it, just save it and don't take the risk. But if you are a person who takes risk as a challenge make sure that you have back up plans if you are going to enter investments. And make sure that you have savings so whenever your investment is going to collapse you have your savings in it and you can make sure that you are going support it.

theres more to the story of saving lol.

If a persons input of making is way less - then theres no point. The issue is the input focus should be knowing how to grow your money and profit without having to forcefully save.

You are racing against time which most have the delusion of having so much of in the first place..
If you will not force yourself to save then you cannot save at all, that is why it is very hard to save money and it needs a lot of discipline to do it. I have once save in my life but was not successful because sometimes I got tempted with the things in this world and that action buying such things has ruined my savings plan.

It was just now that I have learned the discipline.
10472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 26, 2016, 03:40:31 AM
Who said Kawhi - Westbrook trade first? That's bullcrap. Popovich never give up Kawhi and Westbrook is Oklahoma City legend already. After Durant's departure he's the only franchise superstar, he would never leave now.
The inevitability of losing Westbrook in free agency is looming so better find suitable trade partners for him than experience the same thing with Durant's departure to Golden State. Unfortunately, rebuilding is the only way to go for the Thunder and Westbrook will not be part of it. He could be gone even before the season begins or before the trade deadline in February.

Exactly, I can't see Westbrook staying with OKC after this season. They better get something for him while they can.

Absolutely the only way Westbrook stays is if OKC signs a superstar, which probably won't happen

And i think okc is now on it's elapsing era. Without even winning a championship ring. But i believe they too can rebuild after some time. Westbrook is still young and there will come a time where he could get a reliable teammate. Not necessarily a superstar but maybe he can teach some one to become one.
Rebuilding will take a long time to make the result happen, just like what happen to the celtics they have rebuild when they let go or garnet, pierce, and rondo, even allen. Look at the season after the rebuilding, they are still adjusting and it was just now that they are playing good but not really a championship contender team
10473  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 26, 2016, 03:18:30 AM
I think bitcoin in whole will continue on this upwards trend, but there will probably be drops during this year. I think that Bitcoin will reach around 850 but it will stabilise at around 750.


Hopefully the price is going to happen that way. I am hoping that because of the continuous rise of bitcoin. The price is going to increase too and that is a good price at all stabilizing the price at $750 - $800 that is really a good amount at all. We just need to wait for it. For sure next months we can see the effect of halving or if not next year.
We should have a very conservative projection now and that amount mentioned can be achieve anytime this year and trust me and trust you self as that is the only way you can earn in your investment.


Yes that is what we have to do right now, we must trust bitcoin and wait for the further things that are going to happen with bitcoin. And I know it is going to increase in the future and we just need to be patient at it and don't lose hope on it because things are going to be done well now in bitcoin.
And next year would be another rise.
I just believe that once the start of the price increase will happen, people will be more optimistic of another price increase. So if you have bitcoins in your wallet now just hold it and just don't check that all the time so you will not get frustrated waiting as the it will just come in due time.
10474  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 26, 2016, 02:42:22 AM
if you want to become rich from bitcoin then you have to hold alot of bitcoin for some year. i am sure that you will be counted in the riches persons of the world .but for this you have to wait for some years.
I have never seen anyone become rich world only because of holding bitcoin? I think if getting rich easy. there are many rich people in the world? I think the hold bitcoin similar to gambling. because nobody can be certain that prices will actually rise in the future. so it took a lot of courage to buy and hold bitcoin



If they are then these are people who are already made money from else where like other ventures allowing to buy a good amount.

Or you are  a super early adopter and mining back in the day when these were only worth cents.
Maybe we need to search in the internet to know that there are people who are rich already because of holding of bitcoins. They have bough bitcoins when the price was pretty low and if you observed that price now there is a big improvement compared to the price 7 years ago.
10475  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 26, 2016, 02:18:25 AM
Don't ever go all in on something, in life, in gambling and in bitcoin. It is way too risky, if bitcoin crashes you are screwed. Maybe get a part time job + investing in bitcoin.


I agree with you, but there are some people tend to think that gambling in bitcoin is already considered as full time job in bitcoin. But it is really a wrong mindset, instead of gambling you can do some trading or sell your skills and services. That is way better to be considered as full time job in bitcoin.
Gambling can only be your full time if you are earning from it and I heard that some professionals are making a living out from gambling and that is good for them because they have the skills to make money from gambling which hard for a typical person.
10476  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 26, 2016, 02:14:06 AM
I think bitcoin in whole will continue on this upwards trend, but there will probably be drops during this year. I think that Bitcoin will reach around 850 but it will stabilise at around 750.


Hopefully the price is going to happen that way. I am hoping that because of the continuous rise of bitcoin. The price is going to increase too and that is a good price at all stabilizing the price at $750 - $800 that is really a good amount at all. We just need to wait for it. For sure next months we can see the effect of halving or if not next year.
We should have a very conservative projection now and that amount mentioned can be achieve anytime this year and trust me and trust you self as that is the only way you can earn in your investment.
10477  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 26, 2016, 02:12:18 AM
Bitcoin, because it's easier to trade, store and protect.

Well you are right with it, it's easier to trade with bitcoin because if you are going to buy bitcoin you can just simply store it and let the price of bitcoin trade for you and once the price is higher then you can trade it again to fiat money or you can just buy an alt coin and you are the one that is going to do the trading.
Bottom line is we can trade bitcoins anytime we want unlike gold that you need to store it for a longer period of time to make profit on it and besides if you have your bitcoins in your wallet you can easily cash out in times of emergency.
10478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: July 26, 2016, 01:57:47 AM
At this moment it would be a bad moment to sell, unless you are a daytrader.
Remember the price was 770 just a month ago, so if you are patient you may get that price or even more.
yeah, i think the price is unpredictable and anything is possible with it though right now for me it is time to buy bitcoins in order to make money
I hope we can make money in the future and I have bought bitcoins when the price was cheap and I believe that is the advantage for me, though the current price will give me a little profit but I still long for great profit and hope to achieve that before the end of the year.
10479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 26, 2016, 01:54:44 AM
Who said Kawhi - Westbrook trade first? That's bullcrap. Popovich never give up Kawhi and Westbrook is Oklahoma City legend already. After Durant's departure he's the only franchise superstar, he would never leave now.
The inevitability of losing Westbrook in free agency is looming so better find suitable trade partners for him than experience the same thing with Durant's departure to Golden State. Unfortunately, rebuilding is the only way to go for the Thunder and Westbrook will not be part of it. He could be gone even before the season begins or before the trade deadline in February.
I just hope Westbrook will just stay in the thunder, they could still get someone who could partner westbrook and I believe that westbrook is a talented and he has so much to improve. Let's just accept that thunder will not be good for playoffs this year but they are still fun to watch.
10480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I'm Lucky Today on: July 25, 2016, 06:56:07 AM
Good to hear that mate, nice win for you. I hope the next time you will increase your amount so you can also win big amount. Anyway, luck does not come all the time so I need to respect the way you bet and the fact that it makes you happy will make me proud of you.
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