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1061  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: April 23, 2017, 04:48:50 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

Ther is no accurate steady of passive income, you can earn but not as steady as is . Because bitcoin is moving, the price is moving, the bitcoin users is moving, so there is no steady income. Even lending, trading or gambling sites can  make you earn a steady income.
Those that want a steady income should look for a job and be happy with it, most other ways to earn money are not steady even if you can earn a lot of money in a short time frame that does not mean you will get the same results, just look at musicians or athletes.

Yeah, it's for those who want to earn a steady income should be looking for a job that guarantees it. Because it is unlikely bitcoin will give fixed income, because as already known by everyone that bitcoin is a digital currency that has price is always changing and it can give you a disadvantage for those who don't have the patience. Because in the bitcoin should have enough patience to get the profit
 

Yes we cannot expect the steady income from bitcoins as the price keeps on fluctuating every now and then so if you want a steady and stable income then you can always go for a full time job that will pay you fiat currency as fiat don't fluctuate so you can expect steady income from it.
1062  Economy / Economics / Re: where should i invest my 0.5 btc ? on: April 23, 2017, 04:44:29 PM
If you are newbie that amount is much better to intact in your bitcoin wallet younneed to learn more things in bitcoin before you invest in different method.
If you are only looking for investment much better to invest in trading that capital will gain big amount of profit.

Trading will not be easy if he is a beginner in bitcoin and as a newbie its a too high amount to invest in trading so the best thing he can do is to gain some knowledge of trading first and select top 10 altcoins that exist since long time and he can expect certain profits from it in future but starting with a small capital is recommended.
1063  Economy / Economics / Re: how much do you earn with 25$ investment on: April 23, 2017, 04:39:02 PM
Has anybody got burned with that "investment scheme" yet?

25$ investment.
Something like an average 3 hours of work at McDonalds.

And if you;re earning less then that you should be looking for a better job rather than "investing schemes" that promise to double your money by tommorow.




If there are any schemes that will promise you to double your money or coins in quick time then that is definitely a scam and if you invest your money in it then you will be only waiting for your profits and that day will never ever come in future so its better to stay away from those schemes.
1064  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: April 23, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
The best way to explain it is to make a good statement rather than making a long and very technical definition that is hard for the reader to understand. So here is my explanation "  All trading is an investment but not all investment is trading". It simply means that even trading itself is considered as investment. But investment has many forms aside from just trading, it could be investment in networking, loans, business and many more.
You defined it as a comparison that a good definition. But if people need to decide on choosing between trading and investing they also need the similarities of the two. In every trading and investment there is always a risk and one should always have a source of bitcoin  before starting one of these. So for further decision it always depend on the people will choose. Because it is better to do things that you really like to do for you to do it with your best and to earn with no problem.

You are right, it is better to do what you like. Some hate trade. Therefore, it is better for them to invest.
The difference between trading and investing in risk

Its not the difference but its the common practice that risk will always follow in trading and investing in both and it will depend on what level of risk you can afford to take and people who don't have any idea of trading will always prefer to go for investment.
1065  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: April 23, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
Mining coins is no more profitable for me as it will require good capital to buy mining equipment and even the electricity cost is not affordable in my country which makes mining as an unprofitable business for me so I will prefer to buy it, earn it and save it for the future.
No, tell me the valid proof based on your mathematic calculation about the mining and does it really worth or not. Basically the result of the mining depend on your place i mean if you're living on the country with cheap electricity and it's really worth for you.

That's what he is trying to say that electricity cost is not affordable in his country which suggests that the cost of electricity is higher and that is the reason he cannot make good profits from mining as the cost of electricity will eat away all his profits.
1066  Economy / Economics / Re: Smart Passive Income on: April 23, 2017, 04:28:55 PM
If I am looking for smart passive income then I will prefer to rent my apartment and keep on collecting rent on monthly basis as in that case I don't have to work on it or have a watch on it the only thing I need to is to go and collect the rent at the end of every month.
1067  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: April 23, 2017, 04:24:20 PM
I really think it is really becoming an international currency there are so many people all over the world that is using it,
And it doesn't matter where ever you are as long as you can access the internet you can send and receive bitcoin.
I think bitcoin has not become an international currency, although users have been covered in different countries but it has not made bitcoin in anywhere. You're not yet free to use bitcoin


Yes the Governments have not announced anything publicly yet but they have also not banned bitcoin yet and people who are earning and using bitcoins will continue to use bitcoins even if there is any interference from Government in future.
1068  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: April 23, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
trading is better than investing at other web, because with trading you can learning new skill, then you can upgrade or growing your skill with new experience.
I'm not agree with you. Both of them is good, investing is for securing in the future to sure that you have money to consume for the good results. It is saving of money that have a profit for sure. Since trading is also earning of profit but they need to aware to our market for the right time for the profit. Both needs enough knowlege to good result in the future.

Investment doesn't promises us positive results in future and it can go in opposite direction too so you need to be very careful before investing and you should also do a good research before investing your money anywhere to reduce the risks in future.
1069  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 23, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
It's better to invest your money than storing it where in its value don't increase. In my opinion, it's better to invest in real estate since its value grows faster than gold.
Hold still being a good decision everytme. investment is not easy as you said. It need a lot of skill and experience to get the right place to invest your money with low level of risk for yourself.

Yes, now it is very difficult to find a good project. Many scammers have learned to make projects very believable. This complicates the choice. But investing in real estate is a very good idea

Either you can invest in real estate or in products like gold or silver which are assumed to be the safer investment as majority of people have made good profits from it in the past and even in future it can bring good results for them.
1070  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: April 23, 2017, 04:15:56 PM
Every time, for as long as I remember, that I go on bitcointalk, everyone keeps posting "BTC IS DEAD" "SELL" etc... And then a few Sr/Hero members come and explain how thats wrong.

I just don't get it.

Aren't we used to the price fluctuating by now? Whats with all the crying/moaning about price bubbles, crashing, inflations, Russia, China blablablablablablaaaaa!

Jeez... Do some research before posting, I saw one post which got LOADS of attention, yet the first post was done by paint, with an unlabelled graph which showed wrong data!

This is getting to the point where we are affecting newer members or gullible people into selling/dumping all their coins instead of keeping them. I mean when I come on the forum, I see that its crashing, why would I buy in?

I think we need to stop giving the panicking people attention and focus more on positive sides.
They are just trying to spread rumours and make new investors panic thereby forcing them to sell their bitcoins at very low prices.The big whales who spread the rumours would buy those cheaper bitcoins.

I don't think that people will get panic anymore as they are well aware that even if price drops it will only on a temporary basis and in long run the price will surely increase so I don't think that people will entertain those rumors now and will sell their bitcoins at lower price.

Only those who have recently entered the bitcoin community do this. And those who have long been following the price of bitcoin perfectly understand that bitcoin can not die right now. He at the beginning of his development

Bitcoin is on growing stage at a moment and its still in its younger age and we should give some more time to bitcoins to grow even better in future and it will surely do as the demand of bitcoins will keep on increasing in coming years which will take price to even higher level.
1071  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: April 23, 2017, 04:13:54 PM
Saying the price of bitcoin doesn't matter is a lie. There is a cost of acquiring bitcoins. Only a fool or a very very rich guy would think otherwise.

I agree with you. Price is a very important criterion. And for everyone who has several coins the price is very important. Everyone watches as bitcoin becomes more expensive or cheaper

People take decision of buying or selling their coins looking only at the price of bitcoins so price is really important factor when it comes to bitcoins and it is only the price of bitcoins that attracts people to start using it or invest money in it.
1072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: April 23, 2017, 04:06:59 PM
Anything other than signature campaigns and gambling.


A bit saved is a bit earned. So save your money by not clicking on any of the signatures of the people posting in this thread.

Gambling is also a great way to lose bitcoin.  Wink
You're right, gambling is a great way to spend your money. Maybe trying to invest is a very good way, although it will not give us huge profits. But it will also be worth a lot when the price of the coin you invest is high, so you may be selling the coin at a high price.
Haha. I have seen many experts in gambling earn a good amount of Bitcoin daily and they never ever share the secret and the strategy in gambling. We only the losers in this game, wasting our money for nothing

The chances of loosing money in gambling is higher in compare to winning and you cannot expect that you will be making profits each and every time you gamble so the best thing would be to spend only that amount that you can afford to loose as there are many other better ways of earning bitcoins.
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: April 23, 2017, 04:02:46 PM
I have families in India, United States and Canada. Bitcoin has proved to be a blessing to me in easy transfer of money. Now it is so much easy for us to transfer money across countries. Moreover through bitcoin i stepped into investment. Earlier i hardly use to invest my money in anything. But now with bitcoin my money is growing.

Bitcoin is really good when it comes to money transfers as you can do it anytime from home and the best thing is that there are no bank holidays in bitcoin transactions and its available 24/7 and that also with minimal fees.
1074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Daily use of bitcoin? on: April 23, 2017, 03:44:50 PM
I think the daily use of bitcoin is on business like tradings and investments.You can pay some bills by using bitcoin and some stores accepted the bitcoin as payment.You can also use bitcoin by buying games in Games Sites like Steam.

Most of the people are using it for paying bills and buying altcoins on trading sites as the usage of bitcoins is limited at a moment as there are not many offline places where we can spend our bitcoins to buy anything and that makes people to save their bitcoins for the future.

Although it is limited, but we can also use it in online transactions, currently, there are many sites that accept bitcoin to carry out transactions. In addition, bitcoin is also considered as the primary means for performing altcoin transactions. We can say that bitcoin is dominating the market.

The acceptance of bitcoin is increasing on online sites and in future we will find many more sites that will start accepting bitcoin as a mode of payment and bitcoin is a blessing for those who are interested in online shopping but do not have credit card as they can easily do it with bitcoins.
1075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: April 23, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Trading
Gambling
Signature campaign
Twitter Campaign
Facebook Campaign
Giveaways
Faucets

Choose the one that best fits you and from where you can earn good amount of bitcoins. Faucets is just for a beginner as the results are not too favorable from it.
1076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: April 23, 2017, 03:36:34 PM
Every job must have risks. You must be ready to take everything that happens if you want to make a profit. The decision is yours.
that is correct. Nothing is easy to do to earn money. However, I think it is very safe to invest your money in Bitcoin because there is no doubt that the price will apparently go up for the next few year. And if you are a risk taker, you can try to invest in Ethereum or dash or litecoin

Investing in altcoin can be risky in long term as you never know what will be its position in coming years so comparatively investing in bitcoin is much safer as the price of bitcoin is expected to go higher in future so its a better investment to make in my opinion.
1077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have 0.5 BTC how to make money in Investment. on: April 23, 2017, 03:30:03 PM
I have some good option for you. First, try to invest 0.5 in some altcoins which you believe the most. Wait for about 1 or 2 months, I can guarantee that it will be pumped andd the prices will be at least twice as usual. Second, try to save more money then by GPU mining hardware and mine Eth. IT will take only 6 months to ROI haha
I agree with you! altcoins is best for me because BTC It was too expensive to start  profitable with 0.5 BTC

what do you mean "BTC is too expensive"? nobody is forcing you to buy 100BTC or a whole 1 bitcoin. you can buy as much as you can and as small as the place you buy at, allows you.
and to go into altcoins you need to have at least some trading experience, they won't magically give you profit.

And if he doesn't have trading experience then it will be high risk for him to invest 0.5 btc in altcoins as he will surely make some mistake and choose the wrong coin so if he is new to trading then the best thing is to invest only a small capital and rest keep it safe in wallet for future.
1078  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: April 23, 2017, 03:26:49 PM
I do not know why you can add HYIP and MLM in your list. They are all pure scam. You will always lose your money in those systems. And if you win, the money you are holding is belonged to someone else and they have been stolen money


At this stage no one will prefer to invest in hyips and mlm schemes as most of the users have lost their money in the past by investing in those sites and now will never prefer to repeat the same mistake again and will choose the safer ways to earn bitcoins.
1079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: April 23, 2017, 03:21:08 PM
I keep my Bitcoins only in online purses, because I think this is the safest way.

No, it's not the safest way; on the contrary, it puts a lot of risk on your money, because most online wallets use cloud data. And that's where hackers easily get hacked. They will steal your account, and then take all the money you have, one day you log into your account and discover that you are stolen. it was worse.

Exactly its a big risk to store your bitcoins in online wallet as there are more chances that your bitcoins will get hacked by the hackers and I think that the best and safest place to store your bitcoins is in offline wallet where your bitcoins are very much safe.
1080  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: April 23, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
I think the biggest disadvantage of bitcoin is the long time to confirm one transaction

yes its true, you got a point, some bitcoiners are too tired too wait until the transactions are over, and if it is done it has sometimes big transaction fee that causes to lesses the amount of payment they are receiving.
that is why people should not use Bitcoin. They should use altcoin instead because altcoins are more awesome and have more features and advance technologies than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a leader and soon, it will be replaced by other cryptos

Bitcoin is a leader because its widely used and accepted and I don't think that you can use any altcoin for shopping as no one accepts altcoin as a mode of payment and that is the reason bitcoin is more popular in compare to other altcoins.
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