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1061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 10, 2014, 02:21:27 AM
@flashbitRenegadeMan

Dont flatter me. This has nothing to do with me and everything to do with a free market. If you don't like the crypto game you can always become a real life coin collector. At least then people like me cant mess with your perfect little coin.

What I'd like to know is when will you understand that I have very little impact on new investors joining the cloakcamp. That all lies on the shoulders of the cloakcamp devs and the tech they roll out.  Not me, not 100 btc and not pumpers.. Its the coin and devs themselves!

On that front, I hear some MAJOR stuff is in the works that will blow some minds. Keeping that in mind I do believe with some new news the price will start to move again and hopefully settle above 200K.

Good luck bud, if you want to learn how to trade better, be part of a team and make more money feel free to check out the thread in my signature.

Later man.



Not flattering you Bob, attempting to get you to think beyond your own little world. I understand free markets (and laissez faire economics) to a reasonable level. And I understand this concept to a considerable degree too:

"What I'd like to know is when will you understand that I have very little impact on new investors joining the cloakcamp. That all lies on the shoulders of the cloakcamp devs and the tech they roll out.  Not me, not 100 btc and not pumpers.. Its the coin and devs themselves!

Where you've misstated how things are working is that your suggestion of you having very little impact would be correct when the market is far bigger. Yes, it's the technology and the capability/certainty of the development team that will engender trust and be the main input into Cloak's price; EVENTUALLY. At the moment, this market is so small, someone with your dubious modus operandi and (oh so obvious) manipulative mindset isn't helpful and does do enormous damage. You could actually do so much here that would truly add value but you're committed to playing the classic p&der's game, FUDing in other threads and talking Cloak up in an overly positive way that again just makes it all look very suspect.


Bro... Why do you think you know so much about me? "dubious M.O." Huh Maybe I'm a 1 btc if I'm lucky fudder with no real experience. Maybe I'm just the voice in front of the "Pumpers & dumpers" as you put it. It's the internet here, remember.. You cant really trust anything you see or read on here and accusing me of using misinformation or being manipulative in the crypto world is non sense considering this is the internet after all.

BTW...This cloak market is huge, top 15 coins is no small task..SO dont be talking like I move a 5 million market cap coin with my words because I surely dont. Get of my back please. I'm here to make money and that's about it. Not here to make life long friends, just money!

Okay, you're right. I'm just going to forget all those appalling FUD posts you unendingly keep putting into the DRK thread (and the revelations of your extremely dubious business activities in Canada). I'm just going to ignore some of the obnoxious tweets I've read and I'm going to try and forget the posts you deleted where you bragged about moving the CLK price and getting out ahead of everyone else with big gains (which is your prerogative....it's what trading's all about; but, it would appear, you're doing this against the people you're supposed to be assisting in your 'club'). I've yet to see anyone on here speak well of your trading advice, so yes, it's all quite forgettable and, you're right, what one reads on forums like this isn't trustworthy, but one can pick up a general flavour and ethos of a person over a period and you're clearly not someone that should be listened to or trusted at all (and that part I won't be forgetting).
1062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 10, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

The bottom line: Most crypto supporters are druggies.

They're stupid.

They're violently opposed to the very things they claim to be supporting. They punch themselves in the face while looking in the mirror shouting "quit hitting yourself" and laughing about it cuz that guy on the other side of the window is such a dumbass... "Hahaha! I made him punch himself in the face!" and they still can't figure out why their face hurts...

A perfect example is that anti-gun liberals issue death threats to politicians hundreds of times more often than pro-gun conservatives... "We hate violence and we'll kill you if you disagree!" I have plenty of guns and I'm not violent at all... Psychology 101: Projection. They don't want anyone else to have a gun because they know themselves to be unstable and presume everyone to be as whack-a-do as they know themselves to be...

Look at it from another direction. Almost all violence, including so-called "gun violence" occurs in democrat voting districts. If you eliminate the democrat voting districts from the statistical data, the USA is the most violence-free country on Earth. Those parts remaining actually have more guns than people! So, guns are obviously not the problem. I'm not trying to make a gun or political rant, just citing an example with which I am intimately familiar.

Altcoin haters know that they would run a scam if they had the ability to copypasta a shitcoin, so they presume all altcoins are out for that purpose. And most are... Because projection is accurate in many cases, since people who are barely more than animals are pretty much all the same...

Humans in every demographic have one thing in common; the majority of any group are fucking stupid. The only thing more abundant and absolute than Sunlight, is stupidity. Do like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs; form your income around stupidity and you'll be rich whether you want to be or not... The 1% are the 1% because the 99% are too stupid to stop giving away everything they've got tot he 1%. There is no plot or conspiracy. The 99% are just really, really, really fucking stupid.
Sorry Camo, Australia banned assault rifles twenty years ago and we've had zero massacres since. Yes people are stupid, so we took the guns away. There was no practical way to only give it to the smart people, downunder.

Just standing by awaiting Camo's reply. It's going to be an absolute doozy too. Ha!
1063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 10, 2014, 01:45:00 AM
@flashbitRenegadeMan

Dont flatter me. This has nothing to do with me and everything to do with a free market. If you don't like the crypto game you can always become a real life coin collector. At least then people like me cant mess with your perfect little coin.

What I'd like to know is when will you understand that I have very little impact on new investors joining the cloakcamp. That all lies on the shoulders of the cloakcamp devs and the tech they roll out.  Not me, not 100 btc and not pumpers.. Its the coin and devs themselves!

On that front, I hear some MAJOR stuff is in the works that will blow some minds. Keeping that in mind I do believe with some new news the price will start to move again and hopefully settle above 200K.

Good luck bud, if you want to learn how to trade better, be part of a team and make more money feel free to check out the thread in my signature.

Later man.



Not flattering you Bob, attempting to get you to think beyond your own little world. I understand free markets (and laissez faire economics) to a reasonable level. And I understand this concept to a considerable degree too:

"What I'd like to know is when will you understand that I have very little impact on new investors joining the cloakcamp. That all lies on the shoulders of the cloakcamp devs and the tech they roll out.  Not me, not 100 btc and not pumpers.. Its the coin and devs themselves!

Where you've misstated how things are working is that your suggestion of you having very little impact would be correct when the market is far bigger. Yes, it's the technology and the capability/certainty of the development team that will engender trust and be the main input into Cloak's price; EVENTUALLY. At the moment, this market is so small, someone with your dubious modus operandi and (oh so obvious) manipulative mindset isn't helpful and does do enormous damage. You could actually do so much here that would truly add value but you're committed to playing the classic p&der's game, FUDing in other threads and talking Cloak up in an overly positive way that again just makes it all look very suspect.
1064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 10, 2014, 01:18:05 AM
250K+ by tuesday???

Anyone else think this is possible?

Sounds like a leading question - dare I ask, what do you think Bob?

I think it's possible.. Question is.. who's going to get the ball rolling?

Are you completely and utterly shameless? So "who's going to get the ball rolling?" meaning who will get involved in manipulating the price and then look to take quick profit which will result in even more instability as we see more wild gyrations. After what I wrote a few posts above are you just going to continue on with your agenda of p&d and massive price manipulating? Can't you see that this is exactly what is stopping serious money from coming here and getting the prices of key crypto's like Cloak to really take off? I think you're an incredibly selfish and misguided individual.
1065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 10, 2014, 12:55:26 AM
With all the fud today and lack of volume I think Cloak may have found its bottom. Time will tell.

You may be right but the recent volatility would suggest anything's possible. It's unfortunate that there are people like Bobsurplus so active here. It does nothing for this community's certainty and level-headedness. His constant undermining and destabilisation in other coins' threads and, what's been suggested to be, double dealing by making blind trades with his 'club' members to extract an advantage from them, is (if true) absolutely appalling and a major reason why new money won't come into crypto and help Cloak become more stable.
1066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 10, 2014, 12:35:19 AM

I haven't seen such a period of no activity before.

I did. Numerous times. Especially during the middle of a weekend.

Oh, btw. Mintpal activity - just now...!

Ha! Spoke too soon. 6 trades in rapid succession. I guess it's very early Sun morning in the UK and Sat night in North America. People have better things to be doing. Thanks.
1067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 10, 2014, 12:24:41 AM
Keen Cloak watcher here.

It's been a whole hour since the last trade executed on Mintpal (2014-08-09 23:22:10   BUY   0.00169710            19.53000000)

Anyone care to proffer a view on why the activity has just died completely?

Perhaps all the CLK traders are in timezones where it just so happens the bulk of them are asleep?

I haven't seen such a period of no activity before.
1068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 09, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
?



Can anyone clarify what's happening?

Has there been an issue which has resulted in a fork?

What does the above node wallet status mean or indicate?

1069  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
And this

When was the last time someone brought to the market 'cash over the internet'?

Probably in 1990....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash
It was such a shame it all failed. Too early to be successful.

Yeah I understand what you're saying about the valuation. The real trick will be whether that's the message that gets out there "cash over the Internet" or whether a common perception that DRK is to support the shady world of Silk Road type endeavours develops. I fear that it's more likely to be the latter and people's ability to understand that we don't blame US printed currency for illegal activities so therefore Darkcoin shouldn't be thought of that way either will get lost in the usual 6 second sound-byte media grabs that can result in damage to people, places, businesses, technologies.
1070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 02:42:13 PM
Thankz luigi1111. My 'inability' to get the s/z thing right iz becauze I'm in Auztralia and we zpell ztuff like the Britizh do. Ha!

Good lad.

Shame you still feel the need to keep beating us at every sport though. If you could try a little less, that would be much appreciated.

Thankz

I'll speak to the lads (and girls) but can't guarantee anything. Aussie's love their sport to the point of complete and utter fanaticism.
1071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 01:53:20 PM
You're very right: It makes no sense for us to fight with each other in order to defend any government. We know they're all corrupt.

Yes, I was just trying to defuse propaganda. Could have done a better job, I admit... but anyway I am the guy with the Darkcoin GIFs... so fuck politics...

This is a great thread full of great people and I think you're one of them georgem. I'm about as into girlie squatting pictures as I am into high powered assault rifles (i.e. not at all), but I do appreciate what you do and you bring much humour, animation and something to admire to this thread.

Darkota there was just no need for such venom and excessive language. Didn't your mother teach you that "it's not nice to swear"? I know mine did but there are, of course occasions where the f word is very useful. What you've done though by such a display is demonstrate you have a poor vocabulary, have made numerous assumptions and assertions about georgem based on just a few words typed into a couple of these boxes, that are most likely very wrong and haven't addressed what he was saying. Shame on you! If you have some useful content to put forward then we'd be pleased to hear it, but just lam-blasting someone who you don't agree with in such an appalling manner is not warranted......(stands by for invective backlash....sigh....)

Yea you're right. The swearing/cursing was uncalled for. I just truly dislike when people blame America's government, even when the government provides services that a large percentage of the country relies on (Public Schooling, Medicaid, Unemployment Checks, Pensions, Road/Highways/Bridges, Public Hospitals, etc etc).

Of course the U.S government isn't perfect, and there's a shitload of things that need to be fixed, but if you ever visited other countries(India, Middle East, Africa, even parts of the Carribean), you'd know that the things you guys complain about in America, can't even be complained about in those countries since their governments don't do anything for it's people.

Yes, a very valid point. It's all too easy to take shots at western governments for a thousand things that are wrong, but much of what citizens experience in "non-democratic" (and I know that's a huge discussion point in and of itself) countries with regards to a fear-based style of living involves the likes of which many of us on here would have no real clue about. In any forum like this you'll have a broad array of views from all different perspectives. What I think many of us often forget is that our experience of life is just that, it's "ours". Because someone has a completely different set of viewpoints doesn't makes theirs "wrong", but everyone's at differing levels of development and knowledge acquisition. I have over 50 years behind me; I've travelled the world extensively. I've worked in hundreds of different types of organisations (often in a consulting capacity). I've seen a lot, been a lot and dreamed a lot. There's much to be hopeful for in this wonderful world and there's much to overcome. There are good people in the US government doing good work. Not everyone's part of a mindless juggernautistic all consuming monster behemoth that's gonna eat us all (but unfortunately a huge number of people are). Change can happen though and DRK has a role to play in helping government and society get off the debt binge and reserve banking monetisation that's created so much inequality and a frightful system that's likely to go very bad pretty soon.

Your posts mostly have a sense of perspective that is very reasonable, well weighted (from my viewpoint). This is why I appreciate them and you (apart from your stubborn use of "s" where "z" clearly belongs Grin). You've obviously been around and seen lots of things, rather than being the 16-year-old at home who just figured out all of the world's problems. Keep it up!

Thankz luigi1111. My 'inability' to get the s/z thing right iz becauze I'm in Auztralia and we zpell ztuff like the Britizh do. Ha!
1072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
BLAH BLAaaaaaaaaaaH BLAHHHHHHHHHH BA BLAH

I'm BACK!!! BEEEEEOOOOOOTCHHHEEEEEES


Deal with it!!!


Fuck ICEBUCKET  - I'm over it and him
edit - you dick

I've seen a lot of good conversation (lurking) and it appears that most of the twisted fucks have left - for now
I'm sure they'll be back tho

Move'n on

Love you guys  - Hate you guys
I'm coming home...............

Glad you're back Mangled, we've missed you. Now stay here and post some of your enthusiasm for MNs and the DRK network.
1073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 06:59:12 AM
You're very right: It makes no sense for us to fight with each other in order to defend any government. We know they're all corrupt.

Yes, I was just trying to defuse propaganda. Could have done a better job, I admit... but anyway I am the guy with the Darkcoin GIFs... so fuck politics...

This is a great thread full of great people and I think you're one of them georgem. I'm about as into girlie squatting pictures as I am into high powered assault rifles (i.e. not at all), but I do appreciate what you do and you bring much humour, animation and something to admire to this thread.

Darkota there was just no need for such venom and excessive language. Didn't your mother teach you that "it's not nice to swear"? I know mine did but there are, of course occasions where the f word is very useful. What you've done though by such a display is demonstrate you have a poor vocabulary, have made numerous assumptions and assertions about georgem based on just a few words typed into a couple of these boxes, that are most likely very wrong and haven't addressed what he was saying. Shame on you! If you have some useful content to put forward then we'd be pleased to hear it, but just lam-blasting someone who you don't agree with in such an appalling manner is not warranted......(stands by for invective backlash....sigh....)

Yea you're right. The swearing/cursing was uncalled for. I just truly dislike when people blame America's government, even when the government provides services that a large percentage of the country relies on (Public Schooling, Medicaid, Unemployment Checks, Pensions, Road/Highways/Bridges, Public Hospitals, etc etc).

Of course the U.S government isn't perfect, and there's a shitload of things that need to be fixed, but if you ever visited other countries(India, Middle East, Africa, even parts of the Carribean), you'd know that the things you guys complain about in America, can't even be complained about in those countries since their governments don't do anything for it's people.

Yes, a very valid point. It's all too easy to take shots at western governments for a thousand things that are wrong, but much of what citizens experience in "non-democratic" (and I know that's a huge discussion point in and of itself) countries with regards to a fear-based style of living involves the likes of which many of us on here would have no real clue about. In any forum like this you'll have a broad array of views from all different perspectives. What I think many of us often forget is that our experience of life is just that, it's "ours". Because someone has a completely different set of viewpoints doesn't makes theirs "wrong", but everyone's at differing levels of development and knowledge acquisition. I have over 50 years behind me; I've travelled the world extensively. I've worked in hundreds of different types of organisations (often in a consulting capacity). I've seen a lot, been a lot and dreamed a lot. There's much to be hopeful for in this wonderful world and there's much to overcome. There are good people in the US government doing good work. Not everyone's part of a mindless juggernautistic all consuming monster behemoth that's gonna eat us all (but unfortunately a huge number of people are). Change can happen though and DRK has a role to play in helping government and society get off the debt binge and reserve banking monetisation that's created so much inequality and a frightful system that's likely to go very bad pretty soon.
1074  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 04:37:35 AM
You're very right: It makes no sense for us to fight with each other in order to defend any government. We know they're all corrupt.

Yes, I was just trying to defuse propaganda. Could have done a better job, I admit... but anyway I am the guy with the Darkcoin GIFs... so fuck politics...

This is a great thread full of great people and I think you're one of them georgem. I'm about as into girlie squatting pictures as I am into high powered assault rifles (i.e. not at all), but I do appreciate what you do and you bring much humour, animation and something to admire to this thread.

Darkota there was just no need for such venom and excessive language. Didn't your mother teach you that "it's not nice to swear"? I know mine did but there are, of course occasions where the f word is very useful. What you've done though by such a display is demonstrate you have a poor vocabulary, have made numerous assumptions and assertions about georgem based on just a few words typed into a couple of these boxes, that are most likely very wrong and haven't addressed what he was saying. Shame on you! If you have some useful content to put forward then we'd be pleased to hear it, but just lam-blasting someone who you don't agree with in such an appalling manner is not warranted......(stands by for invective backlash....sigh....)
1075  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 02:04:49 AM
Righto. Not sure how SLV fits into the context of this thread but, whatever floats MM710's boat I guess....thanks.

coaex seems to own a precious metals store or some such, and accepts DRK there, so MasterMined710 was cheering Smiley

oooohh.....I seeeee
1076  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RDD] Reddcoin - The Social Currency- [PoSV] Official Release v1.3.1.0 on: August 07, 2014, 01:45:52 AM
The interest of 5% is not okay. it looks only 15. RDD every 24 hour.
With 6 milj. in wallet. ???Yearly it is about 5.475 is 0.1%
http://litefeather.nl/download/RDD-wallet.png

Somebody understand?

Mmmm....something's not right husky1971. You should be getting far more than that.

By my calculations you've received about 54.1 RDD across three days, so extrapolating that out to a year, if it stays at that rate you'll get around 6587 RDD which (you're right) is about 0.1%

Maybe it will pick up but it's not a good start is it!
1077  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 01:15:41 AM
nice. SLV & DRK FTW

MasterMined710 I understand most acronyms on here, and if I don't, I go searching for them. But sometimes it just gets very wearing to see a post that you don't understand and just don't have the appetite to work out. What the hell is "SLV & DRK FTW"  Huh

Silver and Darkcoin For the Win

Righto. Not sure how SLV fits into the context of this thread but, whatever floats MM710's boat I guess....thanks.
1078  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 07, 2014, 01:00:57 AM

Speaking as the founder/CEO of COAEX Precious Metals accepting DarkCoin, I don't think a majority of merchants would prefer this service since it has 1% fee while CoinPayments have 0.5% fee. However, it's always good for an altcoin to have a dedicated payment processor. If the fee is lowered to CoinPayments' level, I guess it would be a preferred method.

nice. SLV & DRK FTW

MasterMined710 I understand most acronyms on here, and if I don't, I go searching for them. But sometimes it just gets very wearing to see a post that you don't understand and just don't have the appetite to work out. What the hell is "SLV & DRK FTW"  Huh
1079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RDD] Reddcoin - The Social Currency- [PoSV] Official Release v1.3.1.0 on: August 06, 2014, 11:51:43 PM
thank you, that is kind of you, some are just pure guesses I compare crypto exchanges as they are Today or how they are structured and operated to Forex market, many traders came from Forex to crypto, realizing potential of swing trades,

Failure of redd would put lot to questioning (at least in my mind) is crypto just to be played like a game on exchanges, like poker with hidden agenda and skilled manipulation and bluff and entertain cryptsy chat goers or is crypto much more than that a larger scope and scale such as you said above...

Yes, it is hard to work out much of what goes on. It is unfortunate that the sort of leverage available when a coin is massively pumped and people successfully get out at the top attracts short term traders in the thousands (but of course only a tiny handful reap the big windfalls). The ensuing instability can then completely kill interest from serious investors as it just looks like a casino play. What's important is to see a long term plan from the devs on what their coin is for/why it matters and consistent communication on the progress of moving through the phases and dealing with problems along the way. REDD seems to have most of this so we can but hope this is what it's truly about. If it starts getting used in real-world applications within social media it will catch on.
1080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing on: August 06, 2014, 11:25:17 PM
Over 0.01 again, good  Cool

That might just be the last time you'll see prices under 0.01 (but then I've learned that nothing surprises in crypto world; it could be back to 0.008 again soon or it could just be all up from here!)
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