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1061  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 07:49:26 PM
I'd just like to quickly state that all my arguments are completely factual and referenced by proof.

I also have no need to 'boost posts' and am not enrolled in any sig campaign of any kind.
1062  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 07:28:43 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.



Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.

What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?

Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1

I don't bet.

That's exactly my point.  I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.

And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row.  Who would?  It's a stupid bet to make.

My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).

How can I help to proof what apu are saying?

Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?

ClamCoin Smiley

Yeah... they won't tell their hot secret. As they are making huge money with it. I mean HUGE.

You are being so quick to try and blindly defend yourself that you are not even reading what I'm writing.  I am down money (~.5BTC) and I don't care that I get it back just as long as people know that your site is a wasteland.

1063  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.



Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.

What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?

Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1

I don't bet.

That's exactly my point.  I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.

And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row.  Who would?  It's a stupid bet to make.

My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).


Look... even IF it did happen, what then? We can discuss about this all day.

But as you all are so good mathematicians tell me.... Is it possible or not?

The 'What Then' is simple.  Your site is flawed.  Your management and programming is bad.  People should see the evidence brought before them and make a decision for themselves.  

My opinion, along with many others on this site is to just avoid your site completely.
1064  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 07:21:53 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.



Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.

What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?

Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1

I don't bet.

That's exactly my point.  I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.

And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row.  Who would?  It's a stupid bet to make.

My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).

How can I help to proof what apu are saying?

Do i need to bet? So yes, at what multiplier?

ClamCoin Smiley

The client and server seed along with my cookies have all been changed since.  100% proof is next to impossible... but anyone can easily deduce from what I've brought forward that something clearly wasn't right.
1065  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 07:13:14 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.



Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.

What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?

Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1

I don't bet.

That's exactly my point.  I was begging your mod and non believers on your site to bet even money that my incredibly low chance of happening would occur.

And you won't bet that you'll get 30 losses in a row.  Who would?  It's a stupid bet to make.

My bet would be just equally as stupid... except for the fact that I 100% believed that something was wrong and that it was going to happen exactly as I predicted it to (which it did).
1066  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 07:05:02 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.



Yeah, and I lost 30 times a row rolling under 49.

What now? Did I lie, or is it impossible?

Bet me 2BTC that you'll get exactly 30 losses under 49 at 1:1
1067  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
Even so much so that I was willing to with 100% confidence bet even money that a 25,000 to 1 shot would happen.

1068  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 06:50:39 PM
Putting this here in case others missed it. 25,000 rolls for >99.494 with zero wins.  1 in a million shot or something else going on... You decide.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.msg11796854#msg11796854

That's what he said. Show me proof.

EDIT: And even if it's true. One in a million do happen.

It's hard to show cold hard proof.  But... if you pay attention to what I had said then you'll see that there's a huge difference between playing and then claiming that something is wrong and actively predicting and wagering before the results for an EXACT outcome to occur. 

Again, I wouldn't be able to 100% call this proof, but you tell me the chances of correctly predicting with 100% an exact event that should only occur 1 in 25,000 times over multiple tries.

1069  Economy / Gambling / Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors! on: July 05, 2015, 06:41:35 PM
I did start 'winning' on the original account after the claim was made, but my best honest guess is that because the admin did not reboot the site or force a refresh, that somehow my bets were glitched with the 'hotfix' that was applied. 

Im no expert on this but could this be caused by cookies as well apart from having the same seed from before and after the fixed? ( had some experiences with cookies messing up multiplier in a site ) and you didnt mention that did you clear cookies before starting the new account though. That could be a another reason why the bet is glitched

The site has terrible management and is poorly coded. 

The management disrespect people and threaten them when they go and give them an advice on what they should do. Despite all the fact presented here, people are still rolling without any concern on what the risk is. His proud of his code is making him blind for all the facts here and he isnt taking any concern with all of this thing
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Yes I cleared cookies to start the new account.  After the cookies were cleared, play seemed to resume back to normal.
1070  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto-Games.net - DICE (0.8 House edge) & Slot | INVEST | up to 20.5k faucet on: July 05, 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Putting this here in case others missed it. 25,000 rolls for >99.494 with zero wins.  1 in a million shot or something else going on... You decide.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.msg11796854#msg11796854
1071  Economy / Gambling / Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors! on: July 05, 2015, 04:49:03 PM
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I kept running into problems with video conversion and my wife wanted to take the day off for the family.

it happens, dont sweat it.

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I then challenged the moderator and another user skeptical of my claims to bet 2BTC that I could prove to them that over the next 5,000 (putting the sum total of rolls at over 23,000 with zero wins) rolls at 200x (>99.494), I would end up with exactly 0 wins.  They were hesitant to accept this bet even though I basically begged them to accept and offered to have any trustworthy escrow hold the funds and release it to them if any win was shown on the site (pretty simple and straightforward way of confirming the winner of the bet) and that I was basically betting even money that I would win exactly ZERO times over 5,000 rolls instead of the many permutations of wins with a standard deviation near 75 wins over this period.  This is liken to betting someone at 1:1 that a roulette wheel will produce 20 black numbers in a row instead of any other result.  They both declined.
i dont see why they wouldnt accept your challenge if they were so confident in their site.

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I then created a new account where I predicted that I would win within 200-600 rolls in which case I did.  I logged back into my original account with a new client/server seed and then started to win/lose at a normal rate.
did you start winning again on the original account after you made the claim that there was something suspicious going on in the thread? I think that's a rather big question that needs to be addressed. for all we know the admin could have toggled fair rolls back on or something after seeing that you noticed this suspicious variance.

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I did check a few of my bets (I was unable to check the earlier bets because the site does not allow access to them and I wasn't pausing the betting to check with 3 bets per second) and they did check out to be provably fair.  By a few, I mean 10 out of 33,000 total.

big red alarm, not being given access to all your previous bets to verify their fairness might as well mean its not provably fair at all.



I did start 'winning' on the original account after the claim was made, but my best honest guess is that because the admin did not reboot the site or force a refresh, that somehow my bets were glitched with the 'hotfix' that was applied. 

I don't really expect that they were manipulating or rigging my account in any way, but I rationally think that my account had some unintentional problems connected with it and that all members involved with running in the site simply did not care to address it or find the root cause of it. 

The site has terrible management and is poorly coded.  Unintentional bugs and glitches like the one I believe happened to me and the handling of it is a glaring example of this.   
1072  Economy / Gambling / Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors! on: July 05, 2015, 04:27:51 PM
Added note that I forgot to include:

You can see that in the second video others were trying to help me out at the same time and reproduce the same results.  Regardless of a few of them hitting, I still remained unfazed (evidence in body language and speech) on my complete confidence that I would not achieve any win over a much larger sample than they were using.
1073  Economy / Gambling / Re: crypto-games.net, 30% house edge, bugs and vulnerabilities, screw the investors! on: July 05, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Sorry for the delay.  I kept running into problems with video conversion and my wife wanted to take the day off for the family.

Anyways... Here's my story.

- On July 3 around 5PM Eastern time, I had deposited .2BTC to test out the site.

- I started by betting .0002BTC at 200x (the imposed limit that the admin had just created).

- I had your standard run of the luck.  Winning 25 times over a ~6k sample.

- During this period of time, the admin changed the system from 3 decimal places to 2 decimal places meaning that my 200x of >99.494 was now >99.5. [There was no notice of this and had I not scrolled back up into the chat where the admin briefly mentioned this, I wouldn't have known at all].  The client side was still showing 3 decimal places everywhere except the actual results.

- The next set of auto-rolled 5k bets resulted in 0 wins.  I deposited another .2BTC chalking this up to variance and produced 0 wins over another ~2k rolls.  At this time I changed my bet to .00001btc because of the low funds and to handle variance better.

- The next 15,000 rolls at .00001btc resulted in 0 wins as well.  I started to think something was off about this and started recording videos.  First, I recorded a 8 minute video, betting 3 times per second resulting in 0 wins.  I then created an 11 minute video (posted earlier in the thread) where I made a few 'bold' predictions that there would be exactly 0 wins in the next 5,000 rolls.  I ended up running out of money before reaching 3,000 rolls.

- I made the claim here and asked for a refund.  There was clearly something off and I approached the staff of the site.  To my surprise the admins were sleeping -- an unprofessional and incompetent move after being told numerous times that their site was vulnerable and that it was most likely broken especially since they have a responsibility to protect investors' funds.  The moderator responded with a very condescending and cocky tone and laughed at my claims.

- I then challenged the moderator and another user skeptical of my claims to bet 2BTC that I could prove to them that over the next 5,000 (putting the sum total of rolls at over 23,000 with zero wins) rolls at 200x (>99.494), I would end up with exactly 0 wins.  They were hesitant to accept this bet even though I basically begged them to accept and offered to have any trustworthy escrow hold the funds and release it to them if any win was shown on the site (pretty simple and straightforward way of confirming the winner of the bet) and that I was basically betting even money that I would win exactly ZERO times over 5,000 rolls instead of the many permutations of wins with a standard deviation near 75 wins over this period.  This is liken to betting someone at 1:1 that a roulette wheel will produce 20 black numbers in a row instead of any other result.  They both declined.

- I then decided to show them anyways creating this video (https://youtu.be/SbFX8BlH9XY) [in HD but cut-off at 8:30 for some reason] and https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbozfm9h2ev775h/2015-07-03-2133-58.flv?dl=0 (non-hd viewable, but hd when downloaded) where I bet the same amount at 200x for 5,000 rolls with (you guess it!) zero wins.  

- I then created a new account where I predicted that I would win within 200-600 rolls in which case I did.  I logged back into my original account with a new client/server seed and then started to win/lose at a normal rate.


Important Notes:
- There is an infinitely small chance, but nonetheless a chance (somewhere around 1 in a million) that this was just extremely bad luck.

- The videos are not completely solid proof as many can make a claim to variance (see above point), but what's very important to note is my body language and pure confidence in the fact that I 100% predicted and believed that this actual result (~1 in 25,000 [guess]) would be the only result to occur.  Further affirmation to this is my aggressive attempts to secure an even money bet on this (statistically speaking) anomaly happening.  The time stamps in the video along with my presence in real time show that there were no breaks in between, editing, or magic of any kind used to re-produce these results.
  
- I had the same client and server seed from beginning of my play, during, and after the hotfix that the admin applied that changed the decimal places and the system.  Only after the seeds were changed (different user and re-logon back to my original account) was play 'normalized'

- I did check a few of my bets (I was unable to check the earlier bets because the site does not allow access to them and I wasn't pausing the betting to check with 3 bets per second) and they did check out to be provably fair.  By a few, I mean 10 out of 33,000 total.


Conclusion:
DON'T PLAY OR INVEST HERE.  Simply put, it's not worth it and you can only blame yourself if you do not heed this advice and something inevitably goes wrong.  The admins and programmers are stubborn, cocky, and careless.  You can see this throughout many examples of interaction both on the site and through the forums here.  Their site is still not fixed and the site's admins could care less about the proper execution of math.  They also claim to have limited time and funds which leaves some concerns about their dedication to this site which can be abandoned or tampered with potentially leaving the users and investors s.o.l.  


1074  Economy / Gambling / Re: I have a +EV method for a dice site,[CONFIRMED +EV is possible] on: July 04, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
I keep trying to upload the video but youtube is giving me problems.  It's a 4.27gb .flv file.  Going to try and convert it and see what happens.  I'll give my statement when the video is ready.
1075  Economy / Gambling / Re: I have a +EV method for a dice site,[CONFIRMED +EV is possible] on: July 04, 2015, 05:06:13 AM
Here's the video.  This marks ~25,000 consecutive rolls without a win.  This means in 25,000 rolls, a 1/200 chance -- any number over >99.945.

>>> 1 / ((99.946 / 100) ** 25000)
732080.9049554196

That's a 1-in-732k chance?

Also, "The video you have requested is not available." - what's up with that?

Re-uploading.  The video stopped at 96%. 
1076  Economy / Gambling / Re: I have a +EV method for a dice site,[CONFIRMED +EV is possible] on: July 04, 2015, 03:57:19 AM
Here's the video.  This marks ~25,000 consecutive rolls without a win.  This means in 25,000 rolls, a 1/200 chance -- any number over >99.945.

http://youtu.be/q5ofHQNKtI8

At this point, I don't really care about a refund.

Simply, I'll just be starting a scam accusation and warn all others here that even if this is the result of an infinitely low occurring event, there are way too many problems with the script and edge and is ran by unmotivated and stubborn owners. 

Do NOT play Here!
1077  Economy / Gambling / Re: I have a +EV method for a dice site,[CONFIRMED +EV is possible] on: July 04, 2015, 02:33:21 AM
So.... I made another video as others didn't believe me and I knew 100% that the next 5000 rolls would result in 0 wins.  I'm uploading the video as we speak.

I also predicted (as you can hear in the video) that if I started a new user account and changed the VPN, that I would hit in about 2-400 rolls which low and behold, I did.


Again... You tell me that something isn't wrong.  I believe there's tampering going on. 

glad to see you followed my suggestion, hope it gets uploaded faster than the last one.

Youtube is telling me 56 minutes.  I wasn't able to get the new user winning as my computer died from video memory, but I can easily do it under any other account and expect a win within 2-400 rolls.

I recorded it with myself in the video to show that there was no funny business, editing, or magic going on and that it was all in real time with the time stamps proving that there no re-takes.
1078  Economy / Gambling / Re: I have a +EV method for a dice site,[CONFIRMED +EV is possible] on: July 04, 2015, 02:28:42 AM
So.... I made another video as others didn't believe me and I knew 100% that the next 5000 rolls would result in 0 wins.  I'm uploading the video as we speak.

I also predicted (as you can hear in the video) that if I started a new user account and changed the VPN, that I would hit in about 2-400 rolls which low and behold, I did.


Again... You tell me that something isn't wrong.  I believe there's tampering going on. 
1079  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: CANADA (0% fee): I'm selling bitcoins for Canadian Dollars by bank transfer. on: July 03, 2015, 11:11:04 PM
Awesome!  Do you plan to do this for a while?  If so, you've found a loyal customer in the future going forward!
1080  Economy / Gambling / Re: I have a +EV method for a dice site,[CONFIRMED +EV is possible] on: July 03, 2015, 11:06:54 PM
So yeah...  The very least you can do to start off with is refunding my .4BTC.  Ball is in your court Crypto-games.net team.
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