I'm not a fan of advisors, and senior advisors in particular, so it means money (or rather big money) spent on stuff other than development, unless the advisors are developers too. The guys like them sit at the table and keep talking, then drawing fancy diags on a board, then drink coffee (and another coffee), then lunch, etc. At the end of month a nice payout, and that's all - no results, just burning $$$
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How come the dev team forgets about first day buyers bonus? How hard is it to give the bonus coins? Is there any reason to hold back these coins?
The ICO is over, the monies are in the pockets, so who cares now :-)
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I like simple solutions, so I'd suggest to show the time to next block only - that would give the user an indication that forging is working, and when is the next chance to win the block
"Time to next block: " + NN + " minutes"
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Any news on Day 1 Reward...?
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yobit 24Low: 0.00040000
They reset trading to the ICO prices. Yobit keeps scamming, they probably have seen that the chart rised 2 fast and the market stalled. They make money on fees and the volume, so they just reset the market. Seems pretty pathetic. Considering the statement from WAVES team here https://blog.wavesplatform.com/be-careful-possible-scam-97a33d235f58#.8rh2j71vn (quote: "we have no evidence that the exchange’s administration took any part in Waves’ crowdsale, nor that it has any amount of WAVES coins") it seems Yobit launched a fake market. Since it's possible they don't own any WAVES coins, they will have to buy it on the market after launch in order to deliver to those that will own IOUs. This is risky strategy, but I guess they believe WAVES will be dumped after launch, so there won't be any problem to buy it at much lower price and still make a profit.
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Any news on Day 1 reward?
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No answer for my question in RISE's signature campaign thread so asking again here
"If user membership level was upgraded during campaign, will the stake level be upgraded too when claiming the bounties?"
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If user membership level was upgraded during campaign, will the stake level be upgraded too when claiming the bounties?
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72 waves for following waves at twitter is not bad. 200 000 tokens for 2826 followers = 70.77 waves per follower official Facebook page has 2338 likes that means 200 000 / 2338 = 85.5 waves for everyone who liked the Facebook page but at the official announcement at page 1 for bounties is written "200000 tokens reserved for joining official WAVES Facebook group."
Early supporters receive bounties for the following activities: - 200000 tokens reserved for following official WAVES account on Twitter. - 200000 tokens reserved for joining official WAVES Facebook group. - 100000 tokens reserved for translations and maintaining national WAVES threads. - 200000 tokens reserved for subscribing to WAVES newsletter at wavesplatform.com website. - 300000 tokens reserved for signature campaign participants at Bitcointalk.
The token distribution to supporters will take place after the end of ICO, WAVES support team will be contacting all participants and arranging the bonus transfer.
WAVESPLATFORM.COMIf it has to be honest these 200 000 waves token have to be distributed to these 144 people which joins waves group that means 200 000 / 144 = 1388.88 waves per person PS: CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE GOOD JOB SASHA! The discussion about the Facebook bounty pool was initiated by me, but unfortunately the WAVES team doesn't want to follow their own statement, but some unofficial and misleading information expressed on this forum. As I said earlier it's really sad, and doesn't build WAVES credibility.
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Is it still cryptocurrency? Not, it's just buying (high risk, unregulated) shares in crypto exchange - correct me if I'm wrong pleeeease... We will register Bitkapital Exchange in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, where cryptocurrencies are not regulated, allowing us to pursue our operations through the use of a crypto-platform.
On the other hand, ICOs seem to be turning into regular IPOs with the only difference being "no regulations by any authority".
@tomkat, We do not claim these shares to be a cryptocurrency. The "ICO" we use stands for Initial Crowd Offering, as is used by many in the crowdfunding arena. So yes, this is a high-risk investment, and it is obviously so, as with the all investments you may find in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. As for Northern Cyprus, we will be a company and to be sure, companies are regulated. It is just there is no specific legislation concerning the use of crypto-securities. Thus, before the law, it does not matter whether you use paper warrants or digital warrants in the form of a crypto-asset. Best, Jian Well, companies are regulated indeed, however, IPOs and generally capital asset markets are even more regulated in most of the countries. There're tons of procedures you need to follow in order to be allowed for collecting money from investors. What you're trying to do is to not proceed with accordance to all those regulations, and get the same result which is getting capital from the market for quasi-shares that you call "crypto-securities". You can obviously try to do it, no problem for me. Just let's make things clear for everyone - especially for all those kids looking for quick profits :-)
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Is it still cryptocurrency? No, it's just buying (high risk, unregulated) shares in crypto exchange - correct me if I'm wrong pleeeease... We will register Bitkapital Exchange in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, where cryptocurrencies are not regulated, allowing us to pursue our operations through the use of a crypto-platform.
On the other hand, ICOs seem to be turning into regular IPOs with the only difference being "no regulations by any authority".
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isn't so many people buying waves now actually worse for the profits? If waves would start let sat at $0.02 and you had 1000 shares , wouldn't that be better than 100 shares at $0.2? For some reason I think that jumping 10x from let say 0.0002 to 0.002 can happen much faster than jumping from 2 to 20, no? (in both cases we profit 10x). For example for ETH to jump from 10 cents to $1 was easier/faster than it will be jumping from $10 to $100, no?
Absolutely true, mate. It may be good for short-term profit, but in long term it will be much harder to get big jumps (x10) in value. so why are so many people happy if more and more people invest? It will be harder for all of us to reach good profits this way. Because they think the coin value increases which is not true because it's the funds for developers that increase, and the coin value will be determined by the market after launch on exchange(s)
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Don't do it please, It's not fair, I'm not talking about hiding anything, and generally what's good and wrong. I did what was requested and you're now trying to create impression that I greedy bastard wanted to steal all FB bounty pool from all those poor 2000+ FB likers that were doing stupid thing and who didn't read ANN with understanding? Come one... Would be better to find the person who spread misleading information about liking FB profile, wouldn't it?
That`s not my intention, if anyone is following the thread and the same questions answered hundreds of times it is easy to know that liking Waves facebook is enough. Yes, group in ann is misleading. I will ask Sasha to correct. I hope Sasha won't agree for that.
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This is really sad, and I must say it's something that I've expected. It's basically changing rules hours before the end of the ICO. Now, I guess the ANN will be edited silently, because there's no way to move all likers to FB group automatically, right? If you look through thread you will notice it was about liking. We don`t need to move or edit anything. I don't need to follow anything. Imagine there's a newcomer who is in need for basic information about WAVES - will you advice to follow 400 pages thread to get information? I've said few times already that the discussion in this thread doesn't matter, as it may change bias and is subjective. That's why we have ANN in which there's clear statement "200000 tokens reserved for joining official WAVES Facebook group" - and this is what I'm refering to. If anyone in this thread said that it's just to like FB profile, then it was basically not following basic facts. Now, I don't believe you're going to admit you're not right, and moreover, WAVES team will probably not follow its own statement about the FB bounties - that's why it's so sad. Bounties are not hidden and are fair for everyone, clicking like is the the same simple as clicking follow on twitter with 2586 followers as of now and like subscribing to newsletter is. I don`t know what you were counting on that all facebook bounty pool will be just divided through 100 people ? The point is that the instructions for FB are wrong. Joining a group is not the same thing as Liking a page. 1. Your instructions say join Facebook group 2. Your update says "liked official waves Facebook" These two are not one in the same. So just 'correct' it. That correct it OR you should consider everyone that joined the group AND/OR liked the page. Thank you hellsingfan. mxxxxxx is trying to to twist everything round which is basically unfair. The point is exactly what you said, however, the solution is to divide the FB bounty pool through FB group members, and not correcting ANN. All FB likers should now apply to the FB group.
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This is really sad, and I must say it's something that I've expected. It's basically changing rules hours before the end of the ICO. Now, I guess the ANN will be edited silently, because there's no way to move all likers to FB group automatically, right? If you look through thread you will notice it was about liking. We don`t need to move or edit anything. I don't need to follow anything. Imagine there's a newcomer who is in need for basic information about WAVES - will you advice to follow 400 pages thread to get information? I've said few times already that the discussion in this thread doesn't matter, as it may change bias and is subjective. That's why we have ANN in which there's clear statement "200000 tokens reserved for joining official WAVES Facebook group" - and this is what I'm refering to. If anyone in this thread said that it's just to like FB profile, then it was basically not following basic facts. Now, I don't believe you're going to admit you're not right, and moreover, WAVES team will probably not follow its own statement about the FB bounties - that's why it's so sad. Bounties are not hidden and are fair for everyone, clicking like is the the same simple as clicking follow on twitter with 2586 followers as of now and like subscribing to newsletter is. I don`t know what you were counting on that all facebook bounty pool will be just divided through 100 people ? Don't do it please, It's not fair, I'm not talking about hiding anything, and generally what's good and wrong. I did what was requested and you're now trying to create impression that I greedy bastard wanted to steal all FB bounty pool from all those poor 2000+ FB likers that were doing stupid thing and who didn't read ANN with understanding? Come one... Would be better to find the person who spread misleading information about liking FB profile, wouldn't it?
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This is really sad, and I must say it's something that I've expected. It's basically changing rules hours before the end of the ICO. Now, I guess the ANN will be edited silently, because there's no way to move all likers to FB group automatically, right? If you look through thread you will notice it was about liking. We don`t need to move or edit anything. I don't need to follow anything. Imagine there's a newcomer who is in need for basic information about WAVES - will you advice to follow 400 pages thread to get information? I've said few times already that the discussion in this thread doesn't matter, as it may change bias and is subjective. That's why we have ANN in which there's clear statement "200000 tokens reserved for joining official WAVES Facebook group" - and this is what I'm refering to. If anyone in this thread said that it's just to like FB profile, then it was basically not following basic facts. Now, I don't believe you're going to admit you're not right, and moreover, WAVES team will probably not follow its own statement about the FB bounties - that's why it's so sad.
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Wondering how big the rewards will be... maybe just following... what is the link to tell them that you are following it? Beware of them. They can change their mind in minutes :-(
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This is really sad, and I must say it's something that I've expected. It's basically changing rules hours before the end of the ICO. Now, I guess the ANN will be edited silently, because there's no way to move all likers to FB group automatically, right?
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Yes, I joined the group few weeks ago after ICO started, so that's why I asked about the rules. I guess the sooner you were the member of the group, the more WAVES you get. Otherwise joining the group as very early supporter would not make too much sense, right?
It doesn`t matter if you follow, like, subscribe sooner or later, important is to do it before ICO ends. I am waiting for answer about group. Let's be serious OK? This is cryptocurrency, math, IT ... - precision is great value here. The words matter sir... There is no such rule as you mentioned above. Even if the "group" is the real case, everyone who liked will be in this "group" immediately as this is what community was informed to do. the group is very real http://imgur.com/cxlUo1SEdit: the community was informed in the ANN, and then it was probably misinformed in this thread's discussion
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Yes, I joined the group few weeks ago after ICO started, so that's why I asked about the rules. I guess the sooner you were the member of the group, the more WAVES you get. Otherwise joining the group as very early supporter would not make too much sense, right?
It doesn`t matter if you follow, like, subscribe sooner or later, important is to do it before ICO ends. I am waiting for answer about group. Let's be serious OK? This is cryptocurrency, math, IT ... - precision is great value here. The words do matter sir...
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