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10621  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ Ballon d'or 2021 - 30 Left - 29 November 2021⚽ on: December 02, 2021, 07:00:50 PM
The players of the Spanish national team won the European Championship in 2008, then the World Championship in 2010, then again the European Championship in 2012, becoming living legends ... now check who received the Ballon d'Or in those years  Wink
I can give you a hint - someone who failed the 2010 World Cup and then failed the 2011 America's Cup  Grin

Well, those years were dominated by two special individuals, Lionel Messi, and Cristiano Ronaldo. They were the two best players in the world and in my opinion, are still now. Some will say Messi is better than Ronaldo and the others will say Ronaldo is better than Messi. But we all know that there are two goats of football.

This is how young people will think (though they are already thinking) in 10 years. And no one will remember those who really dominated - Xavi, Iniesta and company. Who are Xavi and Iniesta in terms of history? They are nonames whose names will be remembered only by specialists. And this situation has developed due to the actions of the organizers of this wretched award.
10622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: December 02, 2021, 06:53:54 PM
‍Probably the current chances are really unfair in relation to Arsenal
1,98 - 3,75 - 3,75
but I would refrain from betting (at least until the match starts and it will be seen how the teams are playing) here, since in reality everything is too random - if United is in a normal state, they can easily win with a large score, but if not then they may lose. I would say that most of the outcome of this match will depend on United rather than on Arsenal, but it is difficult to guess.

Ralf Rangnick is gonna watch the game from stands today and Carrick will have another match today where he will manage the team when they face Arsenal. Honestly I don't see much change from Manchester United. Even last match they were lucky with the error Jorginho made but they can't rely on luck all the time. Maguire is gonna be back and I expect Ronaldo to start today. I agree on that outcome of this match would much more depend on how United will perform but I think it will likely be gonna draw with low no. of goals say 1-1 or 0-0 as both teams lack that sharpness in attack but I have too much doubt over United's defending.

I think, unlike the previous match, United will play based on the attack, so I am sure that we will see a few goals scored. Most likely the score will be about 3-1 (the question is in whose favor hehe). Yes, on that basis, I think Ronaldo will be in the starting lineup and United will play two clean strikers.
10623  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ EFL Championship ⚽ Round #21 SPECIAL (Dec 3) on: December 02, 2021, 06:49:56 PM
1. Fulham - over - 35'
2. Draw - under
3. Barnsley - under
4. Blackburn - under
5. Blackpool - under
6. Bristol City - over
7. Draw - under
8. Middlesbrough - over
9. Millwall - under
10. Nottingham - over
11. Draw - under
12. QPR - over

Sportsbet username: KTChampions
10624  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ FA Cup 🏆 Second Round Proper (Dec 3) on: December 02, 2021, 06:43:53 PM
1. Rotherham
2. Morecambe
3. Draw
4. Draw
5. Doncaster
6. Ipswich - match with most goals scored
7. Draw
8. Portsmouth
9. Draw
10. Draw
11. Draw
12. Kidderminster

Sportsbet username: KTChampions
10625  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io "UFC Vegas 44 Multi Master Challenge" (12/4/21) on: December 02, 2021, 06:39:04 PM
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10626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: December 02, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
All favorites won yesterday; Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool won at away games, nothing much changed in standings. Only West Ham United hurt by getting only a draw at home. Today Arsenal have a great chance to get fourth place if they beat struggled Manchester United. It will be a hard match but considering United's recent bad form Arsenal should be the favorite. Odds say the opposite though, so I use this chance to get higher odds. Let's see how that work out.

‍Probably the current chances are really unfair in relation to Arsenal
1,98 - 3,75 - 3,75
but I would refrain from betting (at least until the match starts and it will be seen how the teams are playing) here, since in reality everything is too random - if United is in a normal state, they can easily win with a large score, but if not then they may lose. I would say that most of the outcome of this match will depend on United rather than on Arsenal, but it is difficult to guess.
10627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 02, 2021, 03:27:20 PM
In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.

Although Atletico Madrid are not a weak team, their performance in the Champions League is poor. They have scored 4 points in 5 matches. I can't call their performance a good performance in such a situation. However, the situation is similar in Porto and AC MIlan in their group. Liverpool have qualified for the next round. Now the team that wins the next match will be able to qualify for the next round.

5 matches is too short a distance to assess the quality of the game (especially if two matches against Liverpool and two matches against Milan) - a couple of accidents with a more or less equal game can throw you far back. Atlético has lost just one time with a margin of more than the minimum and the last match they play against Porto. I think their chances are much higher than the quotes of the bookmakers.
10628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 02, 2021, 03:22:07 PM
I believe the oncoming Dortmund - Bayern Munich game is going to be superb. We see in the league standings that Bayern Munich have 31 points and Dortmund have 30. I'm really content about seeing Dortmund having a great season so far. They seem to be quite determined for the Bundesliga title this time. They are making a huge effort in their league games even though they have many players missing. Haaland is back though and he is back with a goal also. And he can be helpful for his team a lot in this game to be able to compete very well with Bayern Munich. Each team should be able to score easily and a draw wouldn't surprise me at the end of the game.

‍A draw really looks like the least likely outcome in this match (although I wouldn't be surprised if I saw a 3-3 draw):
3,75 - 4,40 - 1,83
In my opinion, bookmakers overestimate Bayern too much, this season we have already seen how it can unexpectedly lose (including to Borussia), so I would estimate Borussia's odds much higher than bookmakers say.
10629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 02, 2021, 03:10:39 PM
It's good that PSG did not concede a goal in today's match - I was ready to make a bet (for the reasons I wrote above) but PSG was not ready to win today.

It was good? it was lame given that there is a big gap between the squad value of both team. I think I have said it few times but whenever PSG play with most of their regular starting lineup, they should have win every game but PSG is still way ahead than the other team. This league would be a bit more interesting if only PSG lose like another two games lol

Yes, that was good. If you have read my previous arguments, then you should know that with this scenario, I was ready to bet on the victory of PSG (and as we already know, this would most likely cost me the loss of certain money).

Messi did not score again (apparently the 7th golden ball gave him little encouragement).

Im not sure why people keep on expecting Messi to score in every game. He is no longer playing in Barcelona so its never going to be the same anymore. He is still one of the GOAT but he is not going to score and carry the whole game everytime

I think because the French championship is an easy walk for PSG and a player who has scored a lot of goals throughout his career should continue to do so here.
10630  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ Ballon d'or 2021 - 30 Left - 29 November 2021⚽ on: December 02, 2021, 03:05:56 PM
People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.

The players of the Spanish national team won the European Championship in 2008, then the World Championship in 2010, then again the European Championship in 2012, becoming living legends ... now check who received the Ballon d'Or in those years  Wink
I can give you a hint - someone who failed the 2010 World Cup and then failed the 2011 America's Cup  Grin
10631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: December 02, 2021, 02:59:23 PM
A great opportunity for Real Madrid to strengthen their lead. I think that Real Madrid should win today, but the victory is unlikely to be easy and we are unlikely to see many goals - judging by the statistics, Athletic has the best defense in the championship at the moment. They conceded only 10 goals in 14 matches. We can say that today Real will have an exam on the ability to pass a strong defense.

And they should be taking every opportunity as they cannot really afford to leave out there the points that need to be taken not just from the very weakest of the rivals, but also from mid-table rivals such as the recent Athletic de Bilbao or even some more serious contender like Seville that may very well mark the difference between achieving the title of getting to the point in which you need to win the last three games and hope for someone else to fail. As of now, there seems to be a clear performance line, is just a question of keeping up and resisting.

So far, everything is going well for Real, despite the fact that Athletic had chances yesterday, they did not have Benzema to realize them  Cool
The next game will be no less difficult for Real - away against Real Sociedad, which is in the leading group and the bookmakers estimate its chances as quite serious:‍
3,35 - 3,45 - 2,21
10632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: December 01, 2021, 10:24:43 PM
A great opportunity for Real Madrid to strengthen their lead. I think that Real Madrid should win today, but the victory is unlikely to be easy and we are unlikely to see many goals - judging by the statistics, Athletic has the best defense in the championship at the moment. They conceded only 10 goals in 14 matches. We can say that today Real will have an exam on the ability to pass a strong defense.
Benzema with his angry from Ballon d'Or will play aggressively in this match and can destroy Bilbao goal. Benzema and Lewandowsky are some of unlucky players who have talent, outstanding performance in their career but because of they are playing in a same era of Ronaldo and Messi, their talent are not rewarded by big personal titles like Ballon d'Or.

Mbappe is different because he is young and he will reach to his best when Messi and Ronaldo will be in last seasons of their career. Mbappe and Haaland will have more chance to win Ballon d'Or than Lewandowski and Benzema but it does not mean that are better players.
As expected, the game was rather difficult and Real won with a minimum score. Benzema proved again that he is able to give results when needed.
I don't think that today he thought much about the Ballon d'Or and that somehow influenced his game. It seems to me that it is better to discuss this topic in a thread specially created for this - there are too many different deep points ;-)
10633  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ Ballon d'or 2021 - 30 Left - 29 November 2021⚽ on: December 01, 2021, 10:17:48 PM
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This award has long been discredited, I think few professionals or even just those who are fond of watching football take it seriously. This is part of marketing, politics - it has nothing to do with objectivity. If you look at the winners, you might think that in football there are practically no great defenders or goalkeepers - almost all the awards are taken by the strikers.
That is a legit point, almost all the winners are strikers. The problem is that it is hard to quantify how a defender helped during a match and how many balls he was able to tackle from the opponent but the number of goals scored will be always remembered.

If the award winner was selected earlier Robert Lewandowski would be the winner and the award board should have given to him because Messi already won them multiple times and for the longest time Messi and CR7 is sharing the trophy for years.
I think that given the fact that computing resources are becoming cheaper and AI is solving ever wider types of problems, plus the fact that all matches in modern football remain recorded on video, we hope that soon we will get an impartial assessment of who was how strong in football. I think the results will surprise a lot of people and there will definitely not be these comic balls that are handed out for business/PR reasons, not facts.
10634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 01, 2021, 10:10:29 PM
It's good that PSG did not concede a goal in today's match - I was ready to make a bet (for the reasons I wrote above) but PSG was not ready to win today. In general, it was a normal game, nothing interesting, one can only mention the goalkeeper of Nice. Messi did not score again (apparently the 7th golden ball gave him little encouragement).
10635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 01, 2021, 06:14:39 PM
Manchester City FC 3.95
Bayern Munich      4.90
Liverpool             6.15
Paris Saint-Germain 6.85
Chelsea               6.95
Manchester United 16.20
Real Madrid          17.40
Ajax                   20.20

Pure fourth place and their quotes are even higher than Chelsea's (how?). In my opinion, these are adequate odds, except maybe Real Madrid's underestimation.
By the way, there is a possibility that after yesterday's 7th Ballon d'Or for Messi, a tense situation will arise in the team due to this obvious injustice and ambitions of Mbappe and Neymar. At least I hope so  Grin

Don't ask me how Chelsea, the defending champions and EPL leaders, are below PSG. Don't remember early season but Ajax deserve better quotes and Real are Real... they love UCL and UCL love them.

And don't get me started on Messi. Love the guy but he must be embarrassed to be there on stage but as I said before, awards are popularity contests and this one's voted by journalists for a French awardee haha Wink
Yes, the chances of such experienced cup fighters as Chelsea and Real look like clearly erroneous, it's a pity that the distance of the tournament is too great - I have no desire to freeze my money for such a period of time to get only a couple of tens of percent of the profit.
Today I'm expecting a repetition of the PSG pattern: an unsuccessful start and a hard victory in the last minutes, if it works out I'll bet, the opponent is pretty serious, so the odds will be good.
10636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 01, 2021, 05:59:54 PM
As for my preferences, on the one hand, I will be glad to any champion of Germany, but on the other hand, even despite the fact that I have been rooting for Bayern in the German championship for many years, I am very tired of the fact that there is always one champion and that Bayern always gets top players from Borussia. It would be more useful for everyone if a new champion and a serious competitor of Bavaria appeared in Germany.

I think the main competitor in this League for Bayern Munich is Dortmund right now. But I still think that Dortmund cant match the strength that Bayern Munich has. But to be honest only one competitor is really not enough for a League. There have to be at least 546 strong teams to make a League more competitive and fun to watch.
In fact, in order to suddenly remove the undisputed champion, the most convenient situation is when he has only one strong opponent. Thus, we can assume that they will score the same number of points in matches with the rest of the teams and everything will be decided in head-to-head meetings. At such a short distance, even the underdog has a chance. When there are many competitors, the likelihood of such a fluke drops sharply.
10637  Other / Off-topic / Re: ⚽ Ballon d'or 2021 - 30 Left - 29 November 2021⚽ on: December 01, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
However at best team success should be a small contribution in order to decide who will win the trophy of the best player around the world, after all those are team achievements and not individual achievements, when we look only at individual achievements there were many players that deserved to get the trophy besides Messi, so while I understand why Messi got the award that does not mean that I agree with it at all.
This award has long been discredited, I think few professionals or even just those who are fond of watching football take it seriously. This is part of marketing, politics - it has nothing to do with objectivity. If you look at the winners, you might think that in football there are practically no great defenders or goalkeepers - almost all the awards are taken by the strikers.
10638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 01, 2021, 05:41:39 PM
Interesting odds before the final round:

<snip>

This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?
These odd indicating their current form which is worst in recent Champions League matches as they lost against Liverpool at home and away games and then lost against AC Milan at home they already have draw against Porto so probably most people's feeling now in away game they have very few chances of win and having to be in knock out stage where Porto is clearly favorite even they are playing draw against them at home on other side peoples feeling it's not easy for AC Milan to beat Liverpool at home with 100% record in Champions League.

But these all are just predictions and personal views still many things possible like AC Milan can lose at home and Atlético Madrid can win to go through now we have very few days all outcomes will happen in front of us lets wait and watch. Cheesy Grin.
In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.
10639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: December 01, 2021, 05:34:04 PM
The only game tomorrow is Real Madrid - Athletic Bilbao. The reason is that this is the missing game of both teams and it is scheduled for tomorrow. Real Madrid seem like the absolute favourite team here without doubt. They have had a great performance for a long time period. And they defeated one of their hardest opponents, Sevilla in their last game. But Athletic Bilbao are not in a similar condition. They haven't won a game for 5 weeks. They are out-of-form now and I think Real Madrid will be the winner here.

A great opportunity for Real Madrid to strengthen their lead. I think that Real Madrid should win today, but the victory is unlikely to be easy and we are unlikely to see many goals - judging by the statistics, Athletic has the best defense in the championship at the moment. They conceded only 10 goals in 14 matches. We can say that today Real will have an exam on the ability to pass a strong defense.
10640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 01, 2021, 05:24:40 PM
Juventus won and they have 4 more easy games now.
If things are going how need to go they could do a nice winning streak.

1 minute played in Serie A for Soulè, already called in Argentina team at the age of 19/20 years.

Venice, Genoa and Cagliari do look like points donors. But I would not be sure that Juventus will easily beat Bologna - in fact, now they are approximately equal rivals. In any case, even if Juventus takes all 12 points in these matches, this is unlikely to allow it to enter at least the top four teams - the gap between the leading group is too large.
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