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10681  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: June 30, 2016, 03:44:03 AM
If bitcoin to be international currency, what do you think?
You can use it every where and anywhere, without exchange it.
And how to use transaction with it, if bitcoin just crypto currency?
How many people like with this thread?

Bitcoin is already used all over the world but Im not sure it can be officially called an international currency.    

There are certain national currencies held all over the world in reserve by central banks in order to facilitate global trade, this is the modern economy that no nation exists by itself or tries to operate a colony type empire.   So we have competing currencies based on a few themes, such as Oil is a widely recognised trading background to currencies.   Some upset from USA fracking and increased oil production has changed global balance and economies globally.

Bitcoin is largely benefiting from the US dollar QE policy, it allows its citizens and those tied to USA indirectly by trade such as China to bypass some of the losses that occur from QE.   Its been a useful product or token but not yet held as currency as such I think, its more transitory

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Chinese yuan officially became a world reserve currency on November 30, 2015. Starting in October of 2016, it will account for 10.92% of the IMF total reserve currency.[45][46] This would make Chinese yuan the fifth reserve currency after US dollar, Euro, British pound sterling and Japanese yen.[47]

Taken from Wiki.   The missing reserve is gold but that is backing in part to some of these currencies.    The very next world currency will not be bitcoin, it will be SDR and if you have never heard of what that is and it already exists then you would look to the IMF who issue SDR.    Its possible if US dollar did pass out its proxy as world currency then the understudy to the crown is SDR not anything less official.   Once SDR fails and the IMF system fails then you can consider gold and bitcoin as maybe and perhaps much higher prices and usage would result, its a sink or swim scenario at that point and we are still well afloat a long way from that outcome

http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/sdr.htm
10682  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 30, 2016, 03:28:36 AM
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you like to invest in the investment options that are as stable as gold? dont you think that it is really boring when the price almost not fluctuate at all? gold is not interesting for me


That is ironic strength of gold, if it wasnt for its stability it would just be shiny metal used in jewellery and some other replaceable uses.   The stability gives worth as so many other currencies are volatile, bitcoin would be far more highly considered by a wider audience if it hadnt varied from 1000 to 200 so easily.
   Gold has held its value for hundreds and thousands of years, which means it has the attention of almost everyone on the planet and that mass appeal is a giant point in its favour.   So its ironic, it doesnt vary so greatly but also long term so highly wanted that it easily justifies a purchase.    Even when people pay a bad price, such as buying in a jewellers shop or even pawn shop it still ends up holding value and being more worthwhile then holding a majority of world currencies.  If bitcoin can ever be this boring I would expect great success
10683  Economy / Services / Re: Testers Wanted for Paid Alpha Stage before Launching an Exchange !!! on: June 30, 2016, 03:16:20 AM
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Requirements to apply for this position:
- At least 6 months of presence in the community.
- Solid green or neutral trust with past feedback. (Green trust users will will be given preference)
- 2 hour of free time for 5 days, where you will test with the rest of the team: 19 to 21 UTC
- A telegram account, to keep in touch during the daily testing hour (This can easily downloaded from your android or IOS app store)

What we ask of you:
* Find any bug/broken link/ transaction error/ calculation error etc
* Deposit bitcoin(very low amount, if you use your own btc we will return the btc with a 3% profit and if you use our BTC to check deposit you will have to be a long term member with solid green trust rating on the forum- we might even require your id card)
* Do exchanges, withdrawals and deposits and perform other functions the exchange.


Ive done beta testing before and obviously used quite a few bitcoin sites in my time.    I also have a small amount of programming experience with flat databases, nothing complicated but I get the idea of how valuable finding and identifying bugs in a repeatable way can be.   Let me know if I can be of assistance and good luck either way Smiley
10684  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: June 29, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
That's incredible, or should i call it wild imagination. I don't think the price will ever reach that big amount. We all have wild dreams but they have to be realistic


Thats completely possible.  2 million dollars a coin.    The catch is dollar has no fixed worth and we are talking 20 years.   It took only ten years for the empire of USSR to go from invading Afghanistan with tanks down to a failed state with no government in many parts and so the currency in that case would be 2 million rubles per bitcoin.    Those 2 million wont buy a loaf of bread.

Can USA dollars do similarly, sure and so its possible but of little use to say 2 mil in 20 years.   If they dumped 17tn of debt into cash dollars and paid them off literally in that way, it'd make the exchange rate with everything even bitcoin goto these levels

10685  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: June 29, 2016, 05:37:42 AM
Assuming Bitcoin becomes really successful, anywhere from 250+ bitcoins to 2000+ bitcoins

2000 bitcoins per person is silly.   For certain this cannot be the answer so long as the total is 21 million .

This allows for 10,500 people to be using bitcoin.  This is your grand vision of bitcoin being successful in twenty years time?    Thats less people then now so what you imply is the price will be at least half what it is now.
300 dollars per coin x 2000 is about 600,000.   Sounds alot but if you intend to retire and live twenty years, thats poor.    If only 10,000 people use bitcoin, the idea failed and probably so did the price as little business actually occurs between those people.
If we imagine 1 billion use bitcoin in twenty years, then its amazing.   You really only need to own a few just so long as bitcoin takes off and the price will be high as its used so much
10686  Economy / Economics / Re: Long term OIL on: June 28, 2016, 04:50:45 PM
The flywheels had been used, for example, in gyrobuses



How about this, just implemented I think.    Anything goes, isnt the Japanese bullet train with no actual physical contact friction in its movement the most energy efficient form of transport.   At least for people, I dont know about heavy haulage maybe boats win on that one with diesel engines the size of buildings and their ability now to use the waste parts of oil cracking so Ive read is new tech available



10687  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: June 27, 2016, 04:41:15 PM
Invest in alternatives to the dollar is probably a good idea.  12% is amazing, I wonder which countries that was maybe India a decade ago was doing that but not sure now.   Globally I think dollar will decline in favour of something less biased maybe not bitcoin but many other systems may be the true successors in the end game.    Dont be all in one thing, I think everyone should have a bit of gold but decide yourself on that one.   Dollar might be replaced or supported by IMF SDR shorter term but thats just another political rehash of now.  I think longer term it'll world currency will rely on something with more integrity of some kind
10688  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: June 27, 2016, 04:29:32 PM
Dont think price, think of the market capital of bitcoin.   Just 1000 makes 21 mil coins a market of 21bn total.   I know not everything is circulated but thats the potential

So we take 21bn and divide by 6bn people on earth giving each of them about $5 each  (total pop may be more but excluding babies etc).    So this is feasible, we take bitcoin to 10,000 per coin and its $50 per person.    Thats about the limit for me as a reasonable projection.   50 dollars is in some parts of the world is a months spending money and obviously its never evenly distributed but its reasonable as an idea of even the poorest might want to use bitcoin like this.

Take bitcoin to 100,000 each coin and its $500 per person in the world and thats just not happening, many millions of people never hold this much money in cash.  Their wealth is tied up in their animals or crops not pure cash.   Obviously we have massive hoarders and the whole 1% dynamic where some own billions and others beg for pennies to exist but the largest section of society recognises a reasonable average like this.
 10k per bitcoin is quite feasible over twenty years I think this happens at least and you can retire on it.  The other alternative is bitcoin is not used at all by then
10689  Economy / Economics / Re: Why are Venezuelan not switching to Bitcoin? on: June 27, 2016, 04:19:21 AM
Someone should sneak in some bitcoin on a usb stick and setup shop,  start splitting it up for people to be swapping as proxy dollars; it basically is that at this point.   Thats when it becomes a useful product to people because they literally being denied the simple freedom of reliable exchange in their trading everyday
10690  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] My Steam account [level 16] on: June 22, 2016, 10:35:55 PM
I'm interested in buying GTA 5 but problem is I probably will use my steam account balance to do that.    I could give you keys maybe and some bitcoin but yea its a pain selling steam accounts.   I try to split all my games up across accounts, sometimes somebody just wants to buy just one game.   Tell me if you are looking for any game and maybe we can swap some value there as well in order to do this deal
10691  Economy / Economics / Re: Long term OIL on: June 22, 2016, 06:51:35 AM
Combustion engine may be an "ancient" technology, but it is so pervasive because for the amount of energy you get for the cost, combustion engines are cheap and easy. I also believe electric cars are the future. I currently own a hybrid car.
Comparatively, a hybrid car costs a few thousand dollars more than the exact same non-hybrid version, about $2-3k. I've more than made up that cost in the years of driving it, so it's been a sound investment.
In a town constantly stop starting is a big point in favour of electric as they have good torque and are better suited to being idle alot of the time.  Crossing a country on a motorway is fine with petrol


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Oil Merchant ‏@EnergyRosen  7h7 hours ago
Crude Production = 8.6 million bbls/day

Crude Imports (net) = 7.9 million

Crude Supply = 16.5 million

Crude Runs = 16.5 million

 
Oil Merchant
‏@EnergyRosen
1-yr ago:

Crude Production = 9.6 million

Crude Imports (Net) = 6.7 million

Crude Supply = 16.3 million

Crude Runs = 16.5 million
10692  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: June 20, 2016, 04:45:35 AM
I would sell all my Bitcoins if a nuclear EMP missile were launched in the North western hemisphere thereby wiping all electronic equipment and possibly trashing the capabilities of bitcoin.    Im thinking of a James Bond style plot that might irradiate valid ASIC fleets now and lower bitcoin difficulty massively and return the random gpu user back to power, who knows
10693  Economy / Services / Re: 500 satoshi per RT on: June 20, 2016, 04:42:24 AM
I up re tweet ed your post, would be good to see more available though, is it a new site setup I guess.    I have about two dozen twitter accounts in theory available for such matters but Im not sure it really works with this system especially
10694  Economy / Economics / Re: Long term OIL on: June 19, 2016, 10:55:26 PM
Thats impressive so transmission of energy is the main drawback.   The ironic thing there is coal is one of the most efficient ways to transport energy, it has a higher calorific content then oil and does not degrade or pollute easily before its use so its very good to store long term.    The local coal power station might out rank the solar panel in the Sahara somehow.

The easiest scheme I ever saw was coke cans in a glass case, rotating with air passing bottom to top and it heated the air passed over them even on a cold day.  Almost free to make, the solar power also is free only the labour and small fan to pass air is what costs.  Everyone here can make one of those but we dont

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At least, until we run out of coil (coal and oil, lol)
They warned well before the first world war, we'd run out of coal.   Peak coal is a thing
Also oil, we'd run out oil and that time we using whales so basically we just moved on.   I dont know what other types of oil there is but I guess we wont ever really use up either as we just find uses and sources especially one becomes difficult. Thorium is possible for us to use, safer even maybe but its easier not to bother at present?  Its not suitable for bombs is the main reason I read why
10695  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS Reddit account on: June 19, 2016, 05:10:10 PM
Ive sent details of the escrow user and of course its upto who you are happy with to carry out the swap

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0   is the link
10696  Economy / Services / Re: Monbux's FREE Escrow Services | Non-IPO's: FREE | Altcoins | Security Upgrade on: June 19, 2016, 05:07:14 PM
Hi
Im doing a small sale for 0.04btc to btc357 who wants to escrow with yourself so they can check the account is working before paying fully.

I will let them know they should post here in a moment, thanks
10697  Economy / Economics / Re: Long term OIL on: June 19, 2016, 03:30:42 AM
The UK has a facility to recycle nuclear waste and allow it is to reused.   I presume its not perfect and eventually it will just be all waste.

Solar power also is flawed, one day the Sun will blow up.  Depends how picky we are being, efficiency is a big concern anyway though.  I believe they made great advances with solar power

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Hydro power however is an strong intervention into the nature

Doesnt have to be, right now it tends to be done crudely.   Again its efficiency and just demand, we mostly have low demand low growth and lots of oil so easy they fight over it .   I would like to see Tidal power used far more, one of the worlds biggest tidal range schemes was refused because its just easier to burn Russian gas.  Why bother I guess

Wave power can also be harnessed, not many people looking to complain about sapping those poor waves.   But its hard to do all that and make it cheaper and definitely not easier then burning stuff
10698  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 19, 2016, 03:07:19 AM
If you don't have the patience, then don't go for gold. Gold is a very very long term investment, similar to those 30-year United States treasury bonds. If you can't wait for that long, then go for some other type of investment. And now coming to Bitcoin, I have a feeling that the coins are over-prized right now. If a crash happens, then you may need to wait for 3-4 years for it to rise again.
Gold is not an investment really, some people speculate with it but its just a store of wealth separated from any countries currency.   Usually people put money in they want to spend in the near term, which is a problem if the market is more interested in messing around with government debt schemes and guaranteed returns plus there is not many regulators requiring an asset base of gold.
   So who needs gold, only the truly wealthy people who have zero need of this money short term and not many of us can say that; old money people who were rich every day of their lives from a sucessful family business etc.   So the rest of us speculate on China buying it etc

Bitcoin overpriced, in which aspect are we to value it thats hard to say.   Dollars are overvalued, thats certain with the amount of bonds issued yet to unwind and the growth potential not likely to meet this new currency created and then in circulation.   So dollar too high makes bitcoin relatively too low, I dont know but seems that way.    Every counterparty to dollar in its global exchange seems possibly cheaper.  

This guy might know http://pricedingold.com/bitcoin/
Price of BTC about half the peak but triple the recent low
10699  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: June 18, 2016, 06:36:15 PM
Spike sounds painful, much rather a gradual staircase higher boring but more dependable.  Ultimately volatility in either direction is some kind of negative for those dealing in bitcoin for their business or finance transaction as it makes transaction cost slightly more uncertain  to both buyer and seller.   HODL is simple but bitcoin is really more dependent on money flow
10700  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS Reddit account on: June 17, 2016, 10:49:31 PM
Ok just to confirm ive sent the details via pm, BTC address: 1DK34iqMAMaTJPtDMysNnEcBqywdYxEnV8
Post again when you send payment and I'll confirm again and send the reddit user and pass
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