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10681  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 22, 2012, 11:18:44 PM
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Results: 2012-Jul-22 04:03pm (up to block 190291)

   Address  Target   Should Win |    #Bets |       Win        |  Lose  | Refunds |   BTC In   |  BTC Out   |  Refund  |   Profit  |   RTP 
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 1dice1e6p       1      0.00002 |    10612 |      0 (0.00000) |  10333 |     279 |      53.52 |       0.01 |    17.86 |     53.51 |   0.036
 1dice1Qf4       2      0.00003 |      993 |      0 (0.00000) |    923 |      70 |       8.24 |       0.00 |     5.58 |      8.24 |   0.021
 1dice2pxm       4      0.00006 |     1499 |      0 (0.00000) |   1467 |      32 |      13.75 |       0.00 |     1.22 |     13.75 |   0.052
 1dice2vQo       8      0.00012 |     1285 |      0 (0.00000) |   1245 |      40 |      18.54 |       0.00 |     4.15 |     18.53 |   0.042
 1dice2WmR      16      0.00024 |     1480 |      0 (0.00000) |   1450 |      30 |      24.45 |       0.02 |     6.60 |     24.42 |   0.094
 1dice2xkj      32      0.00049 |     3442 |      1 (0.00029) |   3430 |      11 |     109.99 |     100.41 |     1.29 |      9.58 |  91.289
 1dice2zdo      64      0.00098 |     5178 |      7 (0.00136) |   5154 |      17 |     210.92 |     121.70 |    55.64 |     89.22 |  57.700
 1dice37Ee     128      0.00195 |     6262 |     14 (0.00225) |   6200 |      48 |    1233.88 |    1143.24 |    40.25 |     90.63 |  92.654
 1dice3jkp     256      0.00391 |     4662 |     21 (0.00452) |   4627 |      14 |     495.11 |     332.03 |    13.11 |    163.07 |  67.063
 1dice4J1m     512      0.00781 |     7173 |     46 (0.00642) |   7122 |       5 |    1514.92 |     717.83 |     9.35 |    797.08 |  47.384
 1dice5wwE    1000      0.01526 |    13523 |    193 (0.01427) |  13328 |       2 |    2208.67 |    1888.68 |     1.80 |    319.98 |  85.512
 1dice61SN    1500      0.02289 |     7503 |    175 (0.02334) |   7322 |       6 |    3046.90 |    3468.65 |    15.00 |   -421.74 | 113.842
 1dice6DPt    2000      0.03052 |     8696 |    279 (0.03209) |   8414 |       3 |    3386.76 |    3114.94 |     9.24 |    271.81 |  91.974
 1dice6gJg    3000      0.04578 |     7481 |    367 (0.04910) |   7107 |       7 |    4904.68 |    6452.27 |    24.99 |  -1547.58 | 131.553
 1dice6GV5    4000      0.06104 |     8246 |    522 (0.06333) |   7721 |       3 |    2999.67 |    2777.53 |    31.20 |    222.14 |  92.594
 1dice6wBx    6000      0.09155 |    15166 |   1426 (0.09406) |  13735 |       5 |    8653.84 |    8830.60 |     7.01 |   -176.76 | 102.043
 1dice6YgE    8000      0.12207 |    30631 |   3823 (0.12484) |  26801 |       7 |    6255.83 |    5535.22 |     0.00 |    720.60 |  88.481
 1dice7EYz   12000      0.18311 |    16525 |   3136 (0.18983) |  13384 |       5 |    6785.06 |    6957.16 |    14.50 |   -172.09 | 102.536
 1dice7fUk   16000      0.24414 |    43181 |  10481 (0.24276) |  32693 |       7 |   13578.67 |   13151.00 |    97.79 |    427.66 |  96.850
 1dice7W2A   24000      0.36621 |    32517 |  12037 (0.37054) |  20448 |      32 |   13709.59 |   13652.30 |   212.63 |     57.28 |  99.582
 1dice8EMZ   32000      0.48828 |   311497 | 151841 (0.48766) | 159525 |     131 |   96191.56 |   97008.25 |  2173.21 |   -816.69 | 100.849
 1dice97EC   32768      0.50000 |   129506 |  64573 (0.49891) |  64854 |      79 |   48455.42 |   46905.01 |   789.20 |   1550.41 |  96.800
 1dice9wcM   48000      0.73242 |    92779 |  68268 (0.73621) |  24461 |      50 |   74075.16 |   72580.05 |   467.98 |   1495.11 |  97.982
 1dicec9k7   52000      0.79346 |      712 |    570 (0.80056) |    142 |       0 |    1184.15 |    1200.70 |     0.00 |    -16.55 | 101.398
 1dicegEAr   56000      0.85449 |      336 |    272 (0.80952) |     64 |       0 |     234.41 |     184.05 |     0.00 |     50.35 |  78.518
 1diceDCd2   60000      0.91553 |       58 |     51 (0.87931) |      7 |       0 |      37.58 |      38.23 |     0.00 |     -0.65 | 101.732
 1dice9wVt   64000      0.97656 |     5850 |   5599 (0.97868) |    122 |     129 |    5021.19 |    4828.39 |   239.20 |    192.80 |  96.160
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                                |   766793 | 323702           | 442079 |    1012 |  294412.58 |  290988.41 |  4238.89 |   3424.17 |  98.837
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SD Profit before fees:       3424.17659660 BTC (1.163%)
Cumulative Fees Paid:         385.98247500 BTC
SD Profit after fees:        3038.19412160 BTC (1.032%)
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Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been:>
Blockchain Tx:  2325411  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 1416455  (60.9%)
Blockchain MB:  983.2  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 582.3  (59.2%)

10682  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshi Dice - how to last longer on: July 22, 2012, 11:15:49 PM
My Internet connection just came back after being down for 24h or so.  I've not had a chance to look at your recent changes.  One thing I'm wondering about is why the losing streaks on your graphs show up as straight lines rather than exponential downward plummets.  Are you not plotting intermediate losses?
10683  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Reverse-engineering and documenting Bitcoinica on: July 21, 2012, 07:19:41 PM
That risk can be lessened by matching trades.  So for every person that goes long 1BTC you need another person to go short 1BTC so your position is flat.

I'm not sure if Bitcoinica did it this way or not. So as a user you say to the system I want to go long BTC. Your trade is only fulfilled when it is matches with the opposite trade.

If a match is not found the trade goes unfulfilled. I guess you could use the price to encourage people to trade one way or the other.

This is a complicated risky business.

Sure, you can reduce the risk by matching trades, which is why in my example they only had 1 customer...

But even with matched trades, it the price moves too far you end up liquidating the losers' positions (you pretty much break even on those - you can use the money they lose to pay the winners, and keep the spread for yourself) but then you're left with an unbalanced book.  The winners still have positions which now aren't matched by anyone taking the opposite position, since they've been liquidated and so I guess you have to pass their positions on to your hedging accounts at gox.
10684  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 21, 2012, 07:08:29 PM
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Results: 2012-Jul-21 11:24am (up to block 190118)

   Address  Target   Should Win |    #Bets |       Win        |  Lose  | Refunds |   BTC In   |  BTC Out   |  Refund  |   Profit  |   RTP 
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 1dice1e6p       1      0.00002 |    10512 |      0 (0.00000) |  10242 |     270 |      52.82 |       0.01 |    16.30 |     52.80 |   0.036
 1dice1Qf4       2      0.00003 |      990 |      0 (0.00000) |    921 |      69 |       8.04 |       0.00 |     5.38 |      8.04 |   0.022
 1dice2pxm       4      0.00006 |     1498 |      0 (0.00000) |   1466 |      32 |      13.55 |       0.00 |     1.22 |     13.55 |   0.049
 1dice2vQo       8      0.00012 |     1284 |      0 (0.00000) |   1244 |      40 |      18.14 |       0.00 |     4.15 |     18.13 |   0.034
 1dice2WmR      16      0.00024 |     1477 |      0 (0.00000) |   1447 |      30 |      24.42 |       0.02 |     6.60 |     24.39 |   0.094
 1dice2xkj      32      0.00049 |     3417 |      1 (0.00029) |   3405 |      11 |     106.99 |     100.40 |     1.29 |      6.59 |  93.841
 1dice2zdo      64      0.00098 |     5167 |      7 (0.00136) |   5143 |      17 |     209.30 |     121.70 |    55.64 |     87.60 |  58.146
 1dice37Ee     128      0.00195 |     6260 |     14 (0.00225) |   6198 |      48 |    1233.38 |    1143.24 |    40.25 |     90.13 |  92.692
 1dice3jkp     256      0.00391 |     4638 |     21 (0.00454) |   4603 |      14 |     494.40 |     332.03 |    13.11 |    162.37 |  67.159
 1dice4J1m     512      0.00781 |     7067 |     44 (0.00623) |   7018 |       5 |    1475.25 |     592.75 |     9.35 |    882.49 |  40.180
 1dice5wwE    1000      0.01526 |    13311 |    186 (0.01398) |  13123 |       2 |    2140.42 |    1683.04 |     1.80 |    457.37 |  78.631
 1dice61SN    1500      0.02289 |     7304 |    171 (0.02343) |   7127 |       6 |    2974.84 |    3383.09 |    15.00 |   -408.24 | 113.723
 1dice6DPt    2000      0.03052 |     7957 |    255 (0.03206) |   7699 |       3 |    3302.47 |    3015.76 |     9.24 |    286.71 |  91.318
 1dice6gJg    3000      0.04578 |     7341 |    364 (0.04963) |   6970 |       7 |    4856.92 |    6429.68 |    24.99 |  -1572.76 | 132.382
 1dice6GV5    4000      0.06104 |     7889 |    503 (0.06378) |   7383 |       3 |    2888.61 |    2689.64 |    31.20 |    198.97 |  93.112
 1dice6wBx    6000      0.09155 |    14890 |   1406 (0.09446) |  13479 |       5 |    8604.42 |    8781.98 |     7.01 |   -177.55 | 102.064
 1dice6YgE    8000      0.12207 |    30147 |   3774 (0.12522) |  26366 |       7 |    6206.82 |    5497.96 |     0.00 |    708.86 |  88.579
 1dice7EYz   12000      0.18311 |    16380 |   3106 (0.18968) |  13269 |       5 |    6750.36 |    6908.21 |    14.50 |   -157.85 | 102.338
 1dice7fUk   16000      0.24414 |    43006 |  10434 (0.24266) |  32565 |       7 |   13545.31 |   13113.43 |    97.79 |    431.88 |  96.812
 1dice7W2A   24000      0.36621 |    32168 |  11900 (0.37030) |  20236 |      32 |   13667.82 |   13608.03 |   212.63 |     59.79 |  99.563
 1dice8EMZ   32000      0.48828 |   308319 | 150251 (0.48753) | 157939 |     129 |   95502.88 |   96267.43 |  2173.21 |   -764.55 | 100.801
 1dice97EC   32768      0.50000 |   128228 |  63938 (0.49893) |  64213 |      77 |   48099.37 |   46629.50 |   789.20 |   1469.86 |  96.944
 1dice9wcM   48000      0.73242 |    90649 |  66699 (0.73616) |  23905 |      45 |   67451.56 |   65853.71 |   467.98 |   1597.84 |  97.631
 1dicec9k7   52000      0.79346 |      350 |    272 (0.77714) |     78 |       0 |     184.19 |     179.40 |     0.00 |      4.78 |  97.400
 1dicegEAr   56000      0.85449 |       99 |     76 (0.76768) |     23 |       0 |     196.36 |     148.35 |     0.00 |     48.00 |  75.552
 1diceDCd2   60000      0.91553 |       38 |     32 (0.84211) |      6 |       0 |      22.33 |      22.17 |     0.00 |      0.15 |  99.302
 1dice9wVt   64000      0.97656 |     5823 |   5572 (0.97857) |    122 |     129 |    5015.57 |    4822.75 |   239.20 |    192.81 |  96.156
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                                |   756209 | 319026           | 436190 |     993 |  285046.66 |  281324.42 |  4237.13 |   3722.24 |  98.694
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SD Profit before fees:       3722.24804889 BTC (1.306%)
Cumulative Fees Paid:         380.64905000 BTC
SD Profit after fees:        3341.59899889 BTC (1.172%)
----
Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been:
Blockchain Tx:  2286024  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 1396679  (61.1%)
Blockchain MB:  967.7  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 574.1  (59.3%)

10685  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Real Time Charting, Order Book, and Time & Sales on: July 21, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
In this picture:

https://i.imgur.com/RNo0a.png

both lines are higher than all the prices in all 14 time periods.  How can that be, given that one of the lines is a 10 period EMA?  The average shouldn't be higher than all 10 of the preceeding highs should it?

The exponential decay of those averages is perfectly normal if they started at a much higher point in the previous bar.

Ah, yes.

I was misunderstand what an Exponential Moving Average was.  A 10 day EMA takes more than 10 days' worth of data into account.  In fact it takes all previous prices into account, but exponentially less so the further back it goes.

It looks like the formula for calculating EMA is:

  new_ema = last_ema + (new_close - last_ema) * 2 / (periods + 1)

where periods is the number of time periods (10 or 21).
10686  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshi Dice - how to last longer on: July 21, 2012, 05:38:53 PM
Nice post!  There are a couple of things I'd improve about it, and since it's a quality post maybe it's worth fixing/clarifying the OP:

2. Don't use this strategy for games where p > 0.5

Define p before using it.  I'm not sure if it's my chance of winning or losing at this point.

1. Let number of rounds  you want to play = "rounds"

In the previous thread, you were using 'round' to refer to "a sequence of plays ending in a win".  I think now you may be using it to mean "a single bet, win or lose".  Is that right?  With martingale betting each round (a sequence of plays ending in a win) ends with a net win equal to your initial bet.  (-1 + -2 + -4 + -8 + 16 == 1) so people may have a target number of these kinds of rounds, giving a target net win.  Or they may have a certain amount of time, and so a target number of bets.  Best to make it clear which you're talking about.

4. Let the multiplier each round after a loss be "m", m = 1/q

I think I need to multipy by a little more than 1/q to recoup my losses.  If the house edge was 0% then multiplying by 1/q would be enough, but it's not.  To keep the net win the same whenever the win happens, define m = 1/(1 - 1/mult) where mult is the payout multiplier.  This still ignores the fact that you're paid half a percent of your stake when you lose, and are charged 0.0005 BTC on every payout, win or lose).
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I have only one coin to spare and a days to spare
10687  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I made 100BTC with Satoshi's dice. Is this normal? on: July 21, 2012, 04:48:36 PM
though iirc satoshidice was running at a loss for a while, i do not know if that is the case now

I regularly post statistics on https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=80312

About 24 hours ago they were 3000 BTC up overall:

10688  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - HTML5 Bitcoin Casino - Provably Fair on: July 21, 2012, 04:28:35 PM
The video poker plays well.

One comment: I'd like it to show how much I win when I win:



I bet 10 and full house pays 9x - but I don't see "90" anywhere.
10689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: sendmany command line in windows on: July 21, 2012, 06:41:11 AM
I think there's a misunderstanding here.

payb.tc is asking "can I use 'bitcoin -server' as the SERVER, instead of using bitcoind" - yes, you can

grue thinks you're asking "can I use 'bitcoin -server' as the CLIENT, instead of using bitcoind" - no, you can't

The confusion arises from the fact that bitcond can act as both an RPC client and an RPC server, and bitcoin can act as both a graphical app and an RPC server.

Hope that clears it up!
10690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [SOLVED] Json-RPC PHP send array on: July 21, 2012, 05:10:04 AM
It shouldn't matter whether you use bitcoin -server or bitcoind - they should react the same way to RPC calls.

I'm unable to reproduce having bitcoin fail like it is for you - but also I've not been able to find version 40101.

I only see the following tags in the repository:

$ git tag -l | grep v0.4
v0.4.0
v0.4.00rc1
v0.4.00rc2

and when I build v0.4.0:

$ ./bitcoind getinfo
{
    "version" : 40000,
    [...]

the version string is 40000.

I'm using Linux not Windows.

I'd suggest updating to a recent version of bitcoin and see if that fixes the problem for you.

I'm also wondering what happens if you try running bitcoind from the command line rather than using the PHP interface:

Code:
 $ ./bitcoind sendmany '' '{"1tipznMYcN4SFijpcVXomcynKWAGnNBQ3":1}'
error: {"code":-6,"message":"Account has insufficient funds"}

You may find you need to omit the single quotes around the {...} in Windows - I'm not sure - try it with and without.
10691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: linux-finally had it with microsoft any advice on: July 21, 2012, 03:52:03 AM
I've been using nothing but Linux for many years.  I've tried a bunch of different distributions but usually end up with Ubuntu.  I used Arch for a while and the documentation is great, but there was something about it which I just couldn't live with.  I forget which it was now - maybe it used to freeze every 24 hours or so.  Or maybe the wireless Internet wasn't very reliable on it.  Something like that, which I couldn't find any solution to other than switching to Ubuntu.

Also, when I was using it the packages weren't signed at all.  If the repository I was using was every compromised, Arch would happily download and install trojaned packages.  I read that there were plans to upgrade the package manager to be able to handle signed packages, and to start signing the packages, but don't know if that's standard practice now or not.  That seems like quite an oversight for a serious distribution.
10692  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [SOLVED] Json-RPC PHP send array on: July 21, 2012, 03:13:08 AM
I just built a version 4 bitcoind.  I didn't let it touch my wallet, so I don't know if it would work fully, but it gets as far as complaining that the account I'm sending from has insufficient funds.

Can you try code like this and tell me what it shows?

Code:
$params = array();

$params['1addr1'] = 1.2;
$params['1addr2'] = 1.3;

try {
    $bitcoin->sendmany('', $params);
}
catch (Exception $e) {
    print "caught exception: ";
    var_dump($e);
}
10693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [SOLVED] Json-RPC PHP send array on: July 21, 2012, 02:06:05 AM
Do you get any kind of an error message when it quits?  Is there a logfile with errors in maybe?

Where did you get your copy of jsonRPCClient.php from?

What's 40101 the version number of?
10694  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 21, 2012, 12:49:25 AM

This reminded me of both Penney's game

I hadn't been aware of that, it's an interesting problem. Thanks!

Btw, what are you using for charts?

I was made aware of it by one of Derren Brown's TV shows - possibly this one.  I'd check but I think the storm outside is making my Internet connection too flaky to do anything much at the moment.

The charts are from gnuplot using data generated by a modified version of the extras/sample_armory_code.py script in the armory git repository.
10695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [SOLVED] Json-RPC PHP send array on: July 21, 2012, 12:09:01 AM
this isn't working for me... i've tried every different combination of single quote / double quote but the following just kills the json-rpc connection:

What do you see if you do this:

Quote
$params = array();

var_dump($params);

$params['1addr1'] = 1.2;
$params['1addr2'] = 1.3;

var_dump($params);

var_dump($bitcoin->sendmany('account', $params));

The var_dump should show you what's going wrong.

Maybe it's
  "PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Request error: {"code":-6,"message":"Account has insufficient funds"}'"
or
  "PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Request error: {"code":-13,"message":"Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphrase first."}'"
or some such other error.

It should give you an idea of what's going wrong though.
10696  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: July 20, 2012, 07:10:21 PM
I think you're confusing Hazek with Hayek.

(FTFY)

Try typing Hayek on a German keyboard and see what you get...



The 'y' and 'z' are switched:

The positions of the "Z" and "Y" keys are switched, this change being made for two major reasons:
"Z" is a much more common letter than "Y" in German; [...]
10697  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 20, 2012, 07:05:14 PM
After all that unpleasant maths Wink back the your regularly scheduled tables of numbers and graphs...

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Results: 2012-Jul-20 11:44am (up to block 189971)

   Address  Target   Should Win |    #Bets |       Win        |  Lose  | Refunds |   BTC In   |  BTC Out   |  Refund  |   Profit  |   RTP  
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 1dice1e6p       1      0.00002 |    10450 |      0 (0.00000) |  10180 |     270 |      51.83 |       0.01 |    16.30 |     51.82 |   0.037
 1dice1Qf4       2      0.00003 |      989 |      0 (0.00000) |    920 |      69 |       7.94 |       0.00 |     5.38 |      7.94 |   0.022
 1dice2pxm       4      0.00006 |     1498 |      0 (0.00000) |   1466 |      32 |      13.55 |       0.00 |     1.22 |     13.55 |   0.049
 1dice2vQo       8      0.00012 |     1284 |      0 (0.00000) |   1244 |      40 |      18.14 |       0.00 |     4.15 |     18.13 |   0.034
 1dice2WmR      16      0.00024 |     1476 |      0 (0.00000) |   1446 |      30 |      24.37 |       0.02 |     6.60 |     24.34 |   0.094
 1dice2xkj      32      0.00049 |     3417 |      1 (0.00029) |   3405 |      11 |     106.99 |     100.40 |     1.29 |      6.59 |  93.841
 1dice2zdo      64      0.00098 |     5167 |      7 (0.00136) |   5143 |      17 |     209.30 |     121.70 |    55.64 |     87.60 |  58.146
 1dice37Ee     128      0.00195 |     6257 |     14 (0.00225) |   6195 |      48 |    1233.36 |    1143.24 |    40.25 |     90.11 |  92.693
 1dice3jkp     256      0.00391 |     4609 |     21 (0.00457) |   4574 |      14 |     491.61 |     332.02 |    13.11 |    159.58 |  67.538
 1dice4J1m     512      0.00781 |     6931 |     43 (0.00621) |   6883 |       5 |    1460.76 |     580.23 |     9.35 |    880.52 |  39.721
 1dice5wwE    1000      0.01526 |    12041 |    169 (0.01404) |  11870 |       2 |    2089.30 |    1665.78 |     1.80 |    423.51 |  79.729
 1dice61SN    1500      0.02289 |     7031 |    163 (0.02320) |   6862 |       6 |    2947.56 |    3355.32 |    15.00 |   -407.76 | 113.834
 1dice6DPt    2000      0.03052 |     7634 |    244 (0.03197) |   7387 |       3 |    3242.60 |    2968.55 |     9.24 |    274.04 |  91.549
 1dice6gJg    3000      0.04578 |     7038 |    350 (0.04978) |   6681 |       7 |    4810.53 |    6361.10 |    24.99 |  -1550.57 | 132.233
 1dice6GV5    4000      0.06104 |     7602 |    487 (0.06409) |   7112 |       3 |    2775.87 |    2565.27 |    31.20 |    210.59 |  92.413
 1dice6wBx    6000      0.09155 |    14370 |   1355 (0.09433) |  13010 |       5 |    8526.55 |    8694.98 |     7.01 |   -168.42 | 101.975
 1dice6YgE    8000      0.12207 |    29138 |   3640 (0.12495) |  25491 |       7 |    6098.25 |    5379.06 |     0.00 |    719.19 |  88.207
 1dice7EYz   12000      0.18311 |    16210 |   3072 (0.18957) |  13133 |       5 |    6661.61 |    6807.11 |    14.50 |   -145.49 | 102.184
 1dice7fUk   16000      0.24414 |    42396 |  10284 (0.24261) |  32105 |       7 |   13255.13 |   12875.71 |    97.79 |    379.42 |  97.138
 1dice7W2A   24000      0.36621 |    31849 |  11782 (0.37031) |  20035 |      32 |   13330.29 |   13301.97 |   212.63 |     28.32 |  99.787
 1dice8EMZ   32000      0.48828 |   304780 | 148509 (0.48747) | 156142 |     129 |   93709.98 |   94614.77 |  2173.21 |   -904.78 | 100.966
 1dice97EC   32768      0.50000 |   127050 |  63345 (0.49888) |  63629 |      76 |   46098.86 |   44536.87 |   789.20 |   1561.98 |  96.612
 1dice9wcM   48000      0.73242 |    89590 |  65896 (0.73590) |  23649 |      45 |   65018.36 |   63475.25 |   467.98 |   1543.10 |  97.627
 1dicec9k7   52000      0.79346 |      157 |    123 (0.78344) |     34 |       0 |      61.72 |      60.32 |     0.00 |      1.39 |  97.733
 1dicegEAr   56000      0.85449 |       51 |     39 (0.76471) |     12 |       0 |     131.38 |      93.56 |     0.00 |     37.82 |  71.213
 1diceDCd2   60000      0.91553 |       22 |     17 (0.77273) |      5 |       0 |      15.59 |      15.31 |     0.00 |      0.27 |  98.235
 1dice9wVt   64000      0.97656 |     5809 |   5560 (0.97853) |    122 |     127 |    5013.48 |    4820.66 |   239.20 |    192.82 |  96.154
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                                |   744846 | 315121           | 428735 |     990 |  277405.04 |  273869.34 |  4237.13 |   3535.69 |  98.725
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SD Profit before fees:       3535.69622366 BTC (1.275%)
Cumulative Fees Paid:         374.93467500 BTC
SD Profit after fees:        3160.76154866 BTC (1.139%)
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Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been:
Blockchain Tx:  2249769  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 1376978  (61.2%)
Blockchain MB:  952.8  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 565.8  (59.4%)



I noticed a sharp drop of 100 BTC or so on the red line about a day ago and looked to see what happened.

This bet is responsible for the loss.  2 BTC on each of lessthan 1500, 2000, 3000, and 4000, with a lucky number of 920 winning all 4 bets.  A 223.90897599 BTC return for an 8 BTC outlay!

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Bet: lessthan 3000
Bet Amount: 2.00000000
Payment: 42.65159066

Bet: lessthan 2000
Bet Amount: 2.00000000
Payment: 63.97263600

Bet: lessthan 1500
Bet Amount: 2.00000000
Payment: 85.29368133

Bet: lessthan 4000
Bet Amount: 2.00000000
Payment: 31.99106800
10698  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: July 20, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Just to clarify: withdrawals will only ever be processed manually, correct?  This is just a request?

As I understand it he aims to make withdrawals as pain-free as possible without actually making them automatic.  See these 2 quotes:

if i open it up to non-forum members contacting me, i'll have to have all my scripts in place and as much automated as possible so that i can create accounts / do withdrawals with 1 click, etc.

bitcoind won't be part of this site... any signup form would draw from a database that's been pre-populated with off-server addresses.

I imagine the goal is for him to be able to look at the list of requested withdrawals, see that they look reasonable, and click something to submit them to the computer that actually has the ability to make the payments.
10699  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Reverse-engineering and documenting Bitcoinica on: July 20, 2012, 06:34:53 PM
Here's how I think it works. You would have 2 hedging accounts one in $ the other in BTC (Because we are buying and selling against the dollar). These accounts would be at MtGox

i.e. Dollar account $10,000
Bitcoin account 10,000BTC

To perfectly hedge each trade we have to buy and sell from our hedging accounts to match the trade.

So in your example. He deposits 1BTC and sells (goes short) x10 on BTC. So he is short 10BTC.

The Bitcoinica clone would also have to sell 10BTC, i.e. convert 10BTC from the bitcoin account into the dollar account.

That way if the price falls the profit the trader makes is made up by the gains in the dollar account.

Can anyone correct my logic here ?

That makes sense, and is I guess how it worked.

Assuming the price of BTC started at $10 and ended at $1, when the customer closes his position you can buy back the 100 BTC for the $100 you made by selling 10 BTC when the customer first shorted, so you end up with $10k and 10k BTC again.

The problem is that now your 10k BTC are worth only $10k, whereas before they were worth $100k.  You've lost $90,000 on the deal by being long BTC while the price crashed.  Maybe this is why Bitcoinica borrowed BTC from customers, so they wouldn't be exposed to the currency risk.
10700  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 20, 2012, 06:07:34 PM
I'm not sure of your method but you do have the correct answer. In general, the number of coin tosses it takes on average to get n heads in a row is given by:

Code:
(p^(-n) - 1)/(1 - p), where p = 0.5 and n = the number of heads in a row

  Heads in a row   Expect. no. tosses
               1                  2
               2                  6
               3                 14
               4                 30
               5                 62
               6                126

Try this against your method and see if you're right in a few more cases. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I don't follow how you got your result.

Here, for 6 heads in a row.  The expected length of a round is the sum of the probability of each outcome times the length of that outcome:

Outcomep(Outcome)len(Outcome)p(Outcome)*len(Outcome)
T1/211/2
HT1/421/2
HHT1/833/8
HHHT1/1641/4
HHHHT1/3255/32
HHHHHT1/6463/32
HHHHHH1/6463/32
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63/32

so 63/32 flips.  The expected number of rounds to get 6 heads is 64, the expected length of each round is 63/32, so the expected number of flips is 64*63/32 = 126.

It was fun and I got to learn some new things. Plus you also persevered - I could have been wrong.

... and you were, a couple of times...  Wink  But only in little ways.

This reminded me of both Penney's game and the discussion around this question, both of which you may find interesting if you didn't see them before.
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