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10721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2013, 03:19:26 PM
so wow that drop

i guess bitmovements really is always right  Wink
10722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: December 16, 2013, 03:18:40 PM


Sorry for my ignorance but what does this chart actually mean?
Nothing, which is why I have it ignored.

it means alot.

its shows everyones bids and ask.

you should not focus solely on the bids and asks to do your trading, but it a useful piece of info.
10723  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: December 16, 2013, 06:26:23 AM
BTC-China fell from 5320 to 5060, and is back to the low price of 18 hours ago.  Yet Bitstamp and Mt.Gox are stuck at the hight of a few hours ago.  If they had followed China, Bitstamp should be at 820 USD (not 850) and Mt.Gox should be at 860 USD (not 900).

Bitstamp and Mt.Gox seem to be quite dead.  Are their transactions real, or is there some manipulation going on?

no, all of bitcoin is completely fake.

quickly now, sell me all your coins b4 someone tells the feds
10724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2013, 05:00:23 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=372267.0;topicseen

Could this guy be considered as a whale?

40k is not that much.  I would say no.  

He's not a whale he had fewer coins than I had. You get into whale land at >10k coins to play with.

40,000$ worth = what ~50BTC

if not liquidated properly, that can make a decent dent on some market, somewhere, for a second.  Cheesy
10725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Oops - 20BTC fee paid on .05 transaction? on: December 16, 2013, 04:54:44 AM
It sounds like he created the transaction using brainwallet.org from a brain wallet address to the payee address without a change address. So there is 20.199BTC input and 0.05271705 BTC output.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions#Output
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Any input bitcoins not redeemed in an output is considered a transaction fee; whoever generates the block will get it.

this is infact what happened

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[–]aliens_exist_1 11 points 3 hours ago
Nope, I was using brainwallet, and I could've sworn that in the box next to source address I had the my total balance, and in the box next to destination I had the ~0.05 I intended to send

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[–]ummhaha 37 points 4 hours ago
I'm sure you did, because that's exactly how the transaction was structured.
When you spend from a brainwallet, you must spend ALL your funds. The difference goes into the fee.

talk about an expensive lesson  Cheesy
10726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Oops - 20BTC fee paid on .05 transaction? on: December 16, 2013, 04:35:57 AM
damn....

would be nice to know exactly how me managed to pay a 20BTC fee...

i mean wow, how to you accidently set your TX fee to 20BTC Huh


make a note to add some idiot proof error checking for clients bitcoin devs.

seriously, i can only imagine how many poeple sent the wrong amount of bitcoin to an address, and lost funds Undecided
10727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: December 16, 2013, 03:41:20 AM
10728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2013, 03:36:34 AM
I am happy for no reason at all.  -0-
Such senseless bliss can never be removed.
I do not need coins to be happy.
Coins help me to make others happy, which is fun.  So they are good.

+1

There should be one more option in the poll "Bitcoins can't buy happiness"
Since there was no such option I voted "BUY BUY BUY" of course.

i voted 0, but "Bitcoins can't buy happiness" is more precise

buying a few bitcoins has how ever brought much joy into my life, and its not about the profits i made along the way, its the things that i learned about life & myself.

http://youtu.be/vaiEwbDkKAQ   Wink


but now its over  sell sell sell  Cheesy
10729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2013, 03:06:09 AM
it feels like the market at an impasse

we can see much higher prices in the future

but in the short term we are overbought.

in the past the short term speculation has won out over the long term potential value

but this time its really not so clear what the market will do.


Agree with nearly all, but price will likely slowly fall like $3-5 a day for a few weeks.

this has been my feeling as well, on every bubble, but its turned out to be wrong.

once the market makes up its mind its going to move to its target FAST
10730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does press dictate movement? on: December 16, 2013, 03:03:07 AM
The headlines a meaningless its how poeple act on them that matters

say you've heard about bitcoin, looked into it, liked it, but didn't want to buy bitcoin because you thought " its in a bubble right now, i missed the boat, bla bla bla"

then you read a headline that says " BITCOIN IS DEAD, its lost 30% of its value and is dropping fast", you find it hard to blieve bitcoin is dead, but you dont give a shit because you don't own any.

next time you see your friend, he tells you bitcoin is now down 50% from its high and he has started buying back in like a boss.

what do you do?

 Cool
10731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2013, 02:51:34 AM
it feels like the market at an impasse

we can see much higher prices in the future

but in the short term we are overbought.

in the past the short term speculation has won out over the long term potential value

but this time its really not so clear what the market will do.
10732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: December 16, 2013, 02:46:57 AM
10733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2013, 02:44:34 AM
10734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CoinValidation is scam on: December 16, 2013, 02:28:07 AM
You submit your private keys to CoinValidation and they remove coins from unvalidated addresses and escrows them until the sender validates, automatic in the case you use coinbase.
LOL I you sooo stupid to do it you deserve to lose all you bitcoin one more scam nothing more.... why there  is no warnig abaut it on Bitcoin talk .Huh


glue sniffers please put delusions aside. atleast read the proper information and stop forming dreamed up theories based on conversations from others in a chinese whisper network of ill informed people.

coin validation are purely business advisors. they are there to help BUSINESSES that deal with fiat (EG exchanges) to ensure they comply with regulations.

these businesses found to fully comply will have their business accredited by them and their bitcoin addresses listed as trusted addresses doing legitimate business.

that way other exchanges can trust them more to possibly allow deposits from these trusted businesses to be accepted with a lower confirm requirement.

EG.
imagine bitstamp got coinvalidation accredited also note another exchange EG: BTC-E which requires 3 confirms before balance shows up.

 imagine it if BTC-E had a system that if funds came from an accredited exchange like bitstamp. they would accept the funds with no confirm requirements.

imagine starbucks accepting payments from bitstamp without confirms.

Coinvalidation is not making a database of every users bitcoin address. only those addresses belonging to businesses.
No. They are trying to centralize everything. 3 man control everything. That is ridiculous. If they do succed in this they will ruin BitCoin.

you are over exaggerating. you are either sniffing glue or hearing things from chinese whispers instead of reading the facts from the source. please research harder and stop creating fud.


lol what?

coin validation wants poeple to give them their private keys?

and you are calling poeple glue sniffers, because this set off red flags for 90% of the bitcoiners.

your a funny guy.

i had been thinking Coinvalidation might not be such a bad thing, who wants glue sniffers and the likes in their community anyway right.

but asking for private keys, for wtv reason, crosses some kind of line, don't you think?

does everyone think everyone else is retarded and wont care about the complete centralization of bitcoin? really? wtf!
10735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When $1 was exchanged for 1,300 bitcoins, Why was this done at the time? on: December 16, 2013, 02:07:10 AM
i bought my first bitcoin because i like the idea, and thought it was cool.

I spent 25$

i lol'd

and then i was like  Shocked

and then  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

and then it crashed and i bought more!  Grin
10736  Economy / Speculation / Re: [New Service] - Adam's BitMovements on: December 16, 2013, 01:45:52 AM
Bump!
I can feel myself turning bearish, how about you? i guess gr8 minds think alike!





Due to all the newbies that signed up lately, I will work on a special update! it will be a short video, discussing some general guidelines / rules that everyone needs to know before they start trading BTC / USD, and why its really important not to break the rules; things like: don't panic sell or panic buy, have a plan, stick to your trades, never go 10:1 leveraged short, etc.. as well as the general philosophy behind my personal trading strategy , and my take on the bitcoin market.

sounds interesting?

Subscribe!
10737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Serious Trading Discussion - Experts Allowed - "Bears Only!" on: December 16, 2013, 12:25:20 AM
this thread.... wtf

where are all the bears?

your all a bunch of bulls pretending to be bears, so weird O.o
10738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2013, 10:49:41 PM
wow this thread, its gotten really OT
10739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2013, 10:48:10 PM
moon $1000
mars $10000



I'm looking at this picture and all I can think is "why the F would we want to go there?"

the human race has an instinctive drive to explore and experiment
its what got us this far
its what will insure our survival
its fucking important

It's true but it won't be true forever. That's the issue. Human's can't continue on their unquenchable consumption of resources forever. And going to Mars isn't the answer for "more".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9JkagAeRo

It all really depends on the frame of reference.

Bare with me for one second:

So far, the most unique thing we know in the universe is Intelligent Life. So far, there's only us (though highly unlikely).

BUT while we have not found another Intelligent race, we have founds lots of other planets capable of supporting such life or even us.

Therefore, Intelligent life is scarcer than the resources that fuel us (Earth).

Now this becomes an economic problem, scarcity makes Intelligent life more valuable.

If you were given this simple choice:

Save the humans or save the earth ??

The logical route is of course to save the most scarce. Humans can go on without the Earth, and even expand to hundreds of Earth-like planets, which we have already mapped.

But losing Intelligent life.... that would be a real blow not easily fixed.

Ecologists will want to murder me for my conclusion:

In this frame of thought, Humans have the moral obligation to use all possible resources in order to secure the continuation of Intelligent life.




i think planets like earth are a dime a dozen, and to think the human race is "Intelligent" is laughable!
10740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2013, 10:44:45 PM
moon $1000
mars $10000



I'm looking at this picture and all I can think is "why the F would we want to go there?"

the human race has an instinctive drive to explore and experiment
its what got us this far
its what will insure our survival
its fucking important

It's true but it won't be true forever. That's the issue. Human's can't continue on their unquenchable consumption of resources forever. And going to Mars isn't the answer for "more".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9JkagAeRo

Apocalypto, I love that movie!

the wise man has a point...
but we made the decision of which path we'd walk long ago, when we killed this wize man along with the rest of them.
now we are clearly past the point of no return
the only thing that can save us now is a drive to experiment explore and expand.
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