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10741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 12, 2011, 10:02:43 PM

I remember a similar event a few weeks ago.  The user presented himself as a competent individual, but eventually MtGox looked at their logs and presented a pretty compelling argument that it was user error.  The dude probably got keystroke logged IIRC.
Was that the one where the "evidence" was that the attacker logged into the victim's account with the correct password on the first attempt, and it later turned out that MtGox's password database had previously been stolen and many of the passwords cracked, or another incident?

Different one.  They guy had quite a good password IMHO (but that did not stop people for berating him about it.)  Certainly it was much to good for a cold remote guess style attack.

MtGox dug up a log showing a login from somewhere.  And some other people dug up some (not too) old posts from the guy which seemed to show that he was not quite as much of a security guru as he seemed to have been presenting himself as.  This was long after the main MtGox hack where the password database was filtched...or at least the only such time I am aware of where this happened to MtGox.  I'm thinking 3 weeks or a month ago.
10742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 12, 2011, 09:32:19 PM

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Help me understand why this is not more of a big deal?

I remember a similar event a few weeks ago.  The user presented himself as a competent individual, but eventually MtGox looked at their logs and presented a pretty compelling argument that it was user error.  The dude probably got keystroke logged IIRC.

I'll sit on the fence until either 1) more similar events pop up, or 2) MtGox presents evidence from their logs which explains things.  It is easy for me to fence sit here though since I'm not an MtGox users Smiley

(Disclosure:  I've had some very low buys in in case MtGox crashes the train.  Been in for a long time and it has not happened yet.)
10743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 12, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
It seems Mt Gox has been broken into again. My account was just liquidated and send to a foreign address, the IP of which seems to be in the Ukraine. I assume I was targeted because I'm a Bitcoin developer.

Since I use Linux and use unique high entropy passwords, I am ruling out any nonsense like local trojans.

Everyone: Clear out your accounts if you have anything in them.

Actually I would find it rather odd that an attacker would target a developer (unless said happened to have a boatload of BTC available for appropriation.)  The ability to do significant development would likely be correlated with both a relatively high ability to understand and investigate the theft, and the ability to solicit a high degree of assistance in doing so.

If I were an attacker with a simple goal of enriching myself, I would certainly not be nailing a Bitcoin developer.  Or at least not on purpose.

Best of luck recovering your BTC, and thanks for the heads-up.
10744  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Ultimate 9-11 Truth - Watch this! - You Won't Believe Your Eyes Anymore on: September 11, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
I did not question the official story for a few days after the event, but by a few weeks into it, as I recall, I had already crossed the 50% probability threashold toward thinking it was likely an 'inside job'.  At this point I am up into the 'near certainty' range given the mountains of evidence uncovered over the decade.

9/11, and the wars that it facilitated were, to me personally, a giant gift.  I started seeking alternatives to USD for mainly ethical reasons and stumbled into PM's.

Over the years I have come to the belief that 9/11 can indeed be considered a 'necessity' for the 'wellbeing' of our nation.  I suspect that without control of Iraq and the central Asian areas we have, the US monetary system very likely would have collapsed by now and the US people could not enjoy a quarter of the worlds resources.  One of my remaining beefs has to do with the distribution of the spoils amongst our population...not a lot of it, by percentage, goes to the bullet stopper class who does the heavy lifting (as was more the case after WW-II.)  We still have obesity problems amongst the lowest class however so it is not fair to say that we all do not benefit...for now at least.

The 'sacrifices' in blood on 9/11 were surprisingly minimal.  The pesky Enron investigation vanished in building 7, and Sliverstein did not have to worry about his asbestos problem and got quite an insurance settlement instead.  Nicely done!  Not sure what happened to the gold in the vaults under the place, but I'm sure it found a good home.  There were a great many winners from 9/11 and not to many losers.  The losers in follow-up wars can feel good about sacrificing with the name of God and Country.

But 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya (and likely soon, Iran) are just band-aids to buy some time.  Certainly not a whole 'New American Century's worth I don't believe, and I feel that Eastasia has a stronger hand when they decide to play it.  I'll expect more 9/11's and Osama's and so on and be positioning myself to graze in whatever pasture end up being the most green.
 
10745  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you're not out, get out. on: September 11, 2011, 09:38:43 AM

By publicly announcing your intentions with 'oh no, other people are going to beat me to the bargains' I can't help but feel you've already got quite a large number of bitcoins, or have recently purchased some and are looking to pump the price higher.

Nah, I own some bitcoins but I use them more as a long term hedging strategy against the hypothetical scenario where BTCs become a much more useful currency than they're now. In that case they would be much more valuable too. I'm not betting all my savings on that.

But that hypothetical scenario is becoming more and more likely as time passes and no fundamental technical problems are found within the bitcoin network. I'm pretty much only waiting for the scalability enhancements to be implemented, I think the scalability issues are the only hard limits on the usefulness of bitcoin at the moment.

And I am not going to invest huge amounts of money into bitcoin anyway. If it drops lower than I've expected, I'll buy more of it.

I just stated my speculative opinion about what I think of current prices.

Jeez...I had to double-check that I did not write the above prose.

I had some 'absurd low' bids in that got taken out.  Put in a few more (and the number of BTC that I pick up if those get snagged is higher due to the much lower price.)
10746  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Forum hacked? on: September 09, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
The cosman commeth

I could be slightly more impressed had your avatar not been replaced.  But only slightly, and not a whole lot more amused.  Ach...back to work.
10747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Forum hacked? on: September 09, 2011, 08:20:20 PM
Sweet one.  Nicely done!  I would have put up an avatar just to see what SA gave me had I thought that such a hack might take place.
10748  Other / Off-topic / Re: Oh well, at least I have an awesome system for Battlefield 3 on: September 09, 2011, 06:37:23 PM
I'm trying to decide whether to try to buy a used rig off someone for cheap now that the BTC/USD ratio is high, or buy some new cards (or continue to avoid mining.)

If I run a miner, I would do so where 1) power is cheap, and 2) I need the waste heat anyway, and I have such a place about 500 miles from where I normally am making maintenance a pain in the ass.  I assume that a lot of miners overclocked their cards to the n'th and are not really that knowledgeable about thermodynamics to start out with.   So a used system will likely have been strained.

Can anyone suggest how detrimental irresponsible overclocking is to various cards in actual practice?
10749  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you belive that Bitcoin is over and done with... on: September 09, 2011, 04:09:56 PM

Because Satoshi Nakamoto didn't add that feature and changing the rules of the entire system that existed since the beginning will upset many people who don't want the rules changed.

then you just pointed out the biggest flaw in the bitcoin algorithm.

Even the US constitution has a mechanism to add or remove items from it..   IE: change the rules.

Hi didn't?  I disagree.  He put the codebase under MIT licensing.  Just get a majority of users to switch and you can have anything you like.

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Parenthetically, I see this 'new rules by software upgrade' as one of the enormous advantages if Bitcoin.  If the system is abused beyond a certain level, there is a 'nuclear option' available to the community as a democratic institution.  This is _not_ an option with gold as a store of value.

Carrying on this thought a bit more, it seems to me that if a large mining pool somehow held together long enough to maliciously destroy the currency, _that_ would be enough to convince a majority of users to 'upgrade' their software to a version which would ignore a malicious block chain fork and 'recover' albeit with some collateral damage.
10750  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Currency Collapse, Bitcoin As A Fallback on: September 09, 2011, 07:05:35 AM
I get most of my economic facts and forecasts from UFO magazines and it now seems that Western currencies may collapse.
This will lead to banks stopping access to savings, leaving peeps without cash in hand and skint.

I know they say that history repeats itself, but 'this time is different' because we are so modern and responsible in the West (not including Argentina) in these unique times.  So your UFO mags must be wrong.

Naturally, there needs to be something to fill the gap, so how can Bitcoin help? Maybe local stores that accept Bitcoins for bread
and petrol and UFO magazines etc?

For my part, I am making an admittedly outside bet that if currency controls were enacted, I could potentially pop up in some other part of the world and be able to obtain enough value to get by for a while.  That is one of the draws of BTC to me.
10751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Spend bitcoins or nobody will accept btc on: September 09, 2011, 05:11:30 AM
I really don't see why BTC need have a particularly high 'value'.  The lower the value, the higher percentage of the currency available for captured by interested people.

USD work just fine for most of what I wish to do with currency at this point.  BTC is, to me, a hedge against that not always being the case.  If/when people are seeking an alternative to USD, EU, etc for whatever reason, I expect then that the value of BTC will increase significantly...for better or worse.

As long at BTC has enough utilization to stress-test the system, and in particular, enough interest from people who wish to exploit it, I am perfectly happy to have the value fall to quite low levels (measured in USD) and see no particular negatives.

If low BTC 'values' chases out miners, I'm fine with that.  I'll buy their equipment and mine BTC myself rather than buy on exchanges.
10752  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freemasons Shut Down Public Access to Somethingaweful Bitcoin (SA) Forums on: September 03, 2011, 12:52:01 AM
its still up, im moved it to a few posts back instead of keeping it as a new post.

im not all that concerned about $10...not worth the effort, honestly.

It's not about the money.  For the lulz of God dude don't be such a pansy Smiley

(Actually I have no idea how charge-backs work so I wouldn't probably do it either to be honest.)
10753  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freemasons Shut Down Public Access to Somethingaweful Bitcoin (SA) Forums on: September 03, 2011, 12:40:19 AM
I'm calling BS. 

that was my first thought too.

Thanks for showing the badge of honor gem...if briefly.

You know what would be a hoot?  Issue a charge-back on you credit card!  You could make some case that you were scammed (all that little fine print and all.)
10754  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freemasons Shut Down Public Access to Somethingaweful Bitcoin (SA) Forums on: September 03, 2011, 12:23:03 AM
Well, now I've been banned from SA, too.  I guess I'm with you guys full-time from now on.

I'm calling BS.  Got any gems for proof?  Or are you thinking you'll slink back in someday (remember, they've got you credit card info.)
10755  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freemasons Shut Down Public Access to Somethingaweful Bitcoin (SA) Forums on: September 02, 2011, 11:00:55 PM
I wonder how much $$$ it's costing somethingaweful to keep their forum pages out of the public. Without people being able to read them anymore, less people will sign up. The less people who sign up, the less $$ for the Mason trolls.

I think the holes in the Titanic are getting bigger and bigger.  Shocked

Actually its the opposite, going private occasionally is a great way to get lurkers like the ones in here to register.  I saw 3 or 4 people in on thread alone say they were signing up within the day of it going private.   

Wow!  What a geyser!
10756  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freemasons Shut Down Public Access to Somethingaweful Bitcoin (SA) Forums on: September 02, 2011, 10:58:19 PM
well, pretty sure im not a mason anymore.  SA banned me...took less than a day....$10 down the drain, oh well.

the reptilian overlord wont be pleased....

pass me a tinfoil hat bitrebel, i need to hide before the black helicopters come for me....


Did you pilfer any gems?
10757  Other / Off-topic / Re: The story of Bold Funding. on: September 02, 2011, 10:18:59 PM

Bitcoin has become a social psychologists wet dream. There are many walks of life who have all come together to support Bitcoin for different reasons.

This community as a whole can be seen as a granfalloon, full of varying degrees of envy, ego, hopes and dreams, and a multitude of competing ideologies. There are veteran miners who hold up to 20% of the entire cache of Bitcoins in aggregate. There are non-technical narco capitalists, 13-17 year old anti social gamers, paranoid schizophrenic 'libertarians' (I've unfortunately met a few in real life..), highly competent 'greater good' technologists, and everything in between.

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Pretty good post.  I'm curious about how you (and a handful of others here) would classify yourselfs?

I'd classify myself as mainly some parts:

 - 'greater good techie'
 - 'paranoid libertarian (who's actually more of a socialist)'
 - 'in want of (another) high-risk speculative play' since I have been kind of on a roll.

Bitcoin is a total wet-dream for me.
10758  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Shrinking - The Long View on: September 02, 2011, 10:04:07 PM
In fact, I would be willing to create a website and publish all of my ideas if someone could explain all the relevant copyright and patent info to me that would allow me to publicly publish while still maintaining my rights over it.

I only care about the US market too, as I'm aware that the EU and surrounding countries are all mostly first-to-file, and I'm certainly not interested in going through the trouble of filing there.

If someone wants to work to assure me I could maintain my rights by publishing, or what steps I could take to publish and maintain rights in the US, that aren't expensive or complicated, I'd appreciate the help.

Otherwise, I'll be here under my bridge.

If you want something done but don't know how to do it, opensource is sometimes a decent way to accomplish the goal.  If your idea is totally great and solves a bunch of problems that you want solved, there is some chance that it will for others as well and it will be picked up and run with.  Then you get an awesome merchant friendly solution (rather than a lonely spot under your bridge.)  As a bonus, you will be know forever more as the father of the miracle of 'synapiccoin' and venture capital will probably be pounding down your door.  Win/win!
10759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Shrinking - The Long View on: September 02, 2011, 09:10:04 PM
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I'm curious, what things to USD not work well for?

You want _that_ as a freebie?  Don't hold your breath.


Lol, what?

I just mean, I can't even imagine what it's more difficult for you to buy with USD, unless you're talking about black market goods....
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Pick anything with the following properties:

 1) Not physically within my ability to hand USD to, and

 2) anything where I would prefer to remain anonymous and not linked to.

Since I value remaining as link-less as possible, that pool of potential transactions is quite large.

10760  Other / Off-topic / Re: Two interesting emails I received today... on: September 02, 2011, 08:27:32 PM
Sorry SA is a lot more secure and trustworthy than your gas station apparently, because i've never heard of anyone hacking SA and stealing credit cards.

Sounds like you have some pretty shitty judgement on where to spend your money and buy gas.

I caution people about the gas station near the rental car return of IAD.  But I cannot say for sure that that is where mine got nicked...the people who helpfully hold my USD form of money did not see fit to bless me with that kind of info.  I use greenbacks for shady deals (like buying gas) these days.

And I would use BTC for shady internet related stuff like SA.  Just because you nobody has poked you yet (to the best of your knowledge) does not mean that you have not dropped your trousers and assumed the position.
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