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10781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: December 25, 2021, 10:08:36 AM
Karim Benzema's performances so far have been consistent, with Vinicius Junior. Helped by their solid midfield between, Casemero, Tony Kroos and Luca Modric. If Real Madrid is able to maintain a consistent appearance in every game. Winning the La Liga title this season is very easy. They are now 8 points adrift of nearest rivals Sevilla.

Real have actually won the championship. If in doubt, you can bet on any competitor (or on all of them at once) and earn a lot of money, the chances that bookmakers give for this event are very eloquent:

Real Madrid - 1.12
Seville - 10,00
Atletico Madrid - 21.10
Barcelona - 43.00

Teams outside of this four have 100+ odds  Grin (I wonder if anyone is betting on them?).
10782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: December 25, 2021, 10:01:22 AM
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Should Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson be a ‘no knockout’ fight?
Logan Paul would have zero to very less chances of lasting against ‘Iron’ Mike back when he was champion; however, ‘The Maverick’ is young, can move more, and can possibly even land bigger shots now that he is fighting a much older Tyson.

On the other hand, Mike Tyson is highly unpredictable. To date, he has the mindset of a champion, and seeing him return to his old fighting style would not be the most unexpected thing ever.

This begs the question – should there be a clause in Paul’s contract that would bar him from knocking out Mike Tyson and vice versa? Absolutely.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-logan-paul-needs-no-knockout-clause-against-mike-tyson/

From what we can read since this is just an exhibition fight, they can put any clause in a contract, besides Mike is old, he might not be able to absorb power punches from a young boxer.

I see no logic in including such a clause in the contract. The audience wants to see a serious fight, not dancing, and is ready to pay for that. It would be epic if someone knocked out someone in this fight and after that we would see a rematch (possibly with the opposite result). If we see dancing and hugging, then there will be no chance of a rematch.
10783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 25, 2021, 09:55:21 AM
Bookmakers fully agree with your assessment:
UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - Inter Milano reach the Quarter-Final?
No  1,20
Yes 4,05
I also rate Liverpool as a clear favorite, but I find these odds unfair. It turns out that bookmakers estimate the probability of Inter's success at about 15%. This is a clear underestimation. I think that Inter is able to win such meetings more often than once every 4 attempts.

Liverpool is a clear favorite in this duel there is no doubt about that. But Inter is playing some amazing football this season and it wont be easy for Liverpool at all and i wouldnt be shocked if Inter goes to the next round of champions league. Liverpool will have a difficult match

I hope this confrontation will take place on the condition that both teams will be in optimal compositions - it would be unpleasant if Liverpool or Inter send some of their players to quarantine and we will see some kind of cut-back competition. Judging by the news from other clubs, such a scenario is possible, it will be sad if it happens.
10784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread on: December 25, 2021, 09:51:34 AM
Exactly. Most the movies right now are from comics or animated films that focus on effects because this is what the viewers preferred even though the story is not that interesting compared before. Movie like Forest Gump with cool story didn't exist anymore nowadays.

But I'm a fan of Keanu so I believe Matrix is a worthy movie to watch in 2021

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with entertaining cinema, of course, the ideal case when it is entertaining and has a scenario like Forrest Gump.
I think that films with original scripts now need to be looked for in European cinema or some other niche, it is rather difficult because to find out if film is good you need to watch it, but sometimes you will stumble upon real gems like this:The 100 Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window
10785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: December 24, 2021, 09:27:11 PM
Comparing these two teams, I want to put my bet on Liverpool's victory. Both teams are stronger, but Liverpool are more stable. Their attack is now much better than before. The players are able to score regular goals. Liverpool's players have proved their worth in both the Premier League and the Champions League. Liverpool have scored the most goals in the Premier League. He has scored 50 goals in 18 matches. This number is too large. Inter Milan have scored 49 goals in 19 games. The match will be competitive, but I would expect Liverpool to win.

Bookmakers fully agree with your assessment:
UEFA Champions League 2021/22 - Inter Milano reach the Quarter-Final?
No  1,20
Yes 4,05
I also rate Liverpool as a clear favorite, but I find these odds unfair. It turns out that bookmakers estimate the probability of Inter's success at about 15%. This is a clear underestimation. I think that Inter is able to win such meetings more often than once every 4 attempts.
10786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 24, 2021, 09:13:18 PM
Pogba renew?
Only yesterday I had read "Pogba could leave in January".

The clickbait is insane right now during Xmas and with the session opening next week, it will be fun days for us.

Now, when there are few matches, I am sure that we will see a lot more news. Journalists need to write something, so until the season resumes they will invent news out of the blue and "virtually" carry out the most incredible transfers that only they can dream up  Cheesy
10787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: December 24, 2021, 09:07:36 PM
After the end of the Formula One season (where in the last race Verstappen beat Hamilton on the last lap to become champion) I saw a comment under this news that got a lot of likes: I don't know who the scenarist is, but thanks a lot  Grin
I hope that after this fight, which obviously has little to do with sports, we will experience similar emotions.
10788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: December 24, 2021, 07:43:03 PM
Benzema has almost the same seasons in Real Madrid - he is a very stable and cool player. But against the background of Ronaldo, of course, he was in the shadows, but there was no blocking of potential, that's for sure.
Yes of course ,Benzema has always been very cool and stable in playing its role ,whether there is a CR7 or not in real ,Benzema has been a key player for Real Madrid from the past until now ! it may also be true that if there is cr7 then benzema is not visible but cr7 also actually gets a lot of good opportunities because of benzema ,but it is rarely highlighted by the media ! The services of other players in a defensive position must also be considered because a good team is not just because of one or two people Smiley the fact is that the media always focuses on the attacking line

This is a sin not only of the media, but also of football "specialists". Remember the golden era of Barcelona, which was entirely on the shoulders of Xavi and Iniesta (and other players of the Spanish national team) and which coincided "quite by accident" with the golden era of the Spanish national team. At the same time, it was not they who received the awards, but only Messi, who in those years played in the national team in failure.
10789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 24, 2021, 07:32:55 PM
I think Pogba is worth the money. He has a small problem in stability (although he seems to have overcome it with age) and the big problem is that everyone expects more from him. In this, he is to some extent reminiscent of Neymar - there were also fantastic expectations, but the real result turned out to be lower. But that doesn't change the fact that they are both great players and worth their money.

Pogba is worth normal money. The problem is that he is getting insane money and is paid close to the best players in the world. His last season was abysmal, now he put together a few good (not great!) performances and based on 5 good games in 2 years he'll be getting another huge contract?

His whole United episode can be defined as a failure. Let them keep him, I thought they won't fall for that trap again. He'll get only worse as he gets older.

I can’t say that I know the exact price of Pogba up to one dollar (I don’t even know up to a million), but I can assume that those who are involved in this bargaining on both sides are acting quite effectively. There are some statistical indicators of usefulness, reliability, etc. which the representatives of the clubs know very well, there are some suggestions from other clubs that the representatives of Pogba are studying. At the junction of this, they agree and if an agreement is reached, then both parties are happy. Maybe from the outside it seems unreasonable, but everyone who participates in the process probably thinks differently. I don't know who is right. And regarding insane prices, I can say that in my everyday life I look at the price tags in stores and understand that prices are insane for everything. Why can't they be insane on soccer (their salaries)?  Smiley
10790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: December 24, 2021, 07:18:55 PM
Sevilla is indeed better now, but that does not mean it has to win 10 out of 10 matches against Barcelona. Let's say the spread of results can be as follows: 4 wins, 2 losses and 4 draws. Obviously the team with 4 wins is better, but they only win 40% of the time. Therefore, when we place bets, we must take into account this spread and think about earning only at a distance and not in a particular match on which everything depends.
Actually we don't think about that is a must. We only predict based on the chances that are had by each club before matches, that is why there are some predictions. And the results based on the live match on the field will sometimes not match to our prediction or expectation. We can see from the paper that one club maybe better than another, but in fact in the field on match, they are lost.
Like what happen to Sevilla, I don't mean that the club must win 10 from 10 always win win and win without any losses.

The problem is that there is always space for randomness in sports. You say that a club that is stronger than another club on paper in reality loses - yes, it happens. But I meant another case: the really strongest club (not on paper, but in fact) sometimes loses to a weaker (and even an obvious outsider) club. This happens often and we must take this into account when placing bets.
10791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 24, 2021, 07:09:48 PM
For me personally, it will be boring if the scudetto are played by Milan and Inter, I love when the underdog is involved in the fight, and not the clubs that have been in the top for decades. As for Juventus, how good it is will be seen in the next round against Napoli (hopefully Napoli will come to its senses by this time), up to this point Juventus has been successful mainly due to a series of easy opponents.
About Inter, I agree they have achieved in Millenium years, Inter got 5 scudetto in the row, 2005 until 2010. that great achievement. But Milan, only 2003–04, 2010–11. and Juventus is the king of decades, got 9 scudetto in the row between 2011 until 2020. I hope so with Napoli and Roma. so far Napoli is just great in the Maradona era, while Roma in Francisco Totti era in 2000. but for this session, Napoli and Roma will be difficult to beat Inter and Milan on top when they don't build the team in January.

Despite the fact that Milan does not often win titles in recent decades, it is still the most titled club in the world (along with Real, I do not remember exactly who has 1st place), so obviously I put it in the group with Juventus and Inter, and not to Napoli or Atalanta.

Extremely unpleasant results in this round: Milan, Inter, Juventus scored points, while Roma, Napoli, Atalanta lost. Napoli managed to lose at home to Spezia - one of the worst teams in Serie A. It's good that yesterday I did not have time to place bets here - 100% I would add to the multi-bet match Napoli - Spezia and lose.

It depends on which side of the bet (coin) are you on, the winning side or the losing side. Grin
Luckily the results of Milan, Inter, Juventus, Roma, and Hellas Verona send me to the cashier with a nice Christmas "gift". The only reason that I didn't add Napoli to any of my Serie A bets, was the very low odds. One of Napoli's big issues is that they can't handle the pressure of being a favorite, so I prefer to avoid betting on them at such prices. Another game that they fail and the title looking to go away... Lips sealed

Sure  Grin Did you bet on Roma's draw? If you were so phenomenally lucky you should have guessed Spice's victory, I think the odds were around 20.
10792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 24, 2021, 06:59:31 PM
Disgusting. Matches without fans kill the atmosphere of football and turn even the most important match into a simple training session.
By the way, is this justified? It seems that the new strain of the virus has a negligible lethality, that is, it is very similar to the usual flu. Flu epidemics happen every season, but no one is imposing such a crackdown because of it.

You are right, but there are simply too few alternatives. Think it will continue with or without supporters for the time being. The commercial money is too big and has too much influence. Clubs have contracts with sponsors and media companies, so they can't just say they don't want to play anymore. Interests are way too big. Intermediate solutions could exist, with partial public but difficult to maintain.

What specific alternatives are you talking about? What are the specific intermediate solutions? At least I see a great illogicality in the fact that the authorities claim that vaccines allegedly work, but restrictions are imposed on absolutely everyone - both vaccinated and unvaccinated. Why can't I go to a match of my favorite team if I am fully vaccinated?
10793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 24, 2021, 06:51:54 PM
I'm not sure the French league or Ligue 1 is a weak league, because if the teams in Ligue 1 were weak teams then we'll get where Messi is now easy to score. But the fact is the opposite and Messi admits Ligue 1 teams are strong teams with high power gameplay, the teams in Ligue 1 are still strong teams and strong leagues too. There will always be strong teams and weak teams in every league, so I can't assume that this is a weak league although indeed, if we talk about Ligue 1 at least it's only about one PSG team. But the reality is not so, because the proof is that PSG itself is still difficult to get points even though the opponent they are facing is a team that is in the relegation zone.

Still, we may have some more objective idea of the strength of the league than the opinion of a football player. I think if we consider the results of French teams in European competition (excluding PSG), then we can say that the French championship is closer to the Portuguese championship than to the top-4.
10794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread on: December 24, 2021, 06:43:26 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  Tongue

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.
~

At some point in time, it became simply impossible to watch new films. I can understand when some values are promoted with the help of cinema (provided that these are various values and everyone can promote their own), but when there is more propaganda in "creativity" than creativity itself, it becomes unbearable. In addition, there is no question of any diversity - anyone who tries to promote some values that contradict the modern leftist agenda will be censored and canceled.
10795  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Arsenal + Southampton ⚽ Prediction Contest (Sunday) on: December 24, 2021, 06:28:58 PM
Game 1:  28'  1-2 Norwich City
Game 2:  28'  3-1 West Ham
10796  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: [ЛOГ] Пoльзoвaтeли, пoвыcившиe cвoй paнг - Пoздpaвлeния! on: December 24, 2021, 05:33:03 PM
Напомню, что мистер Ratimov лицо заинтересованное:
Да, заинтересованное в том, чтобы снорк проиграл. Об этом как бы говорят предыдущие посты:
~

Я рассматриваю условия спора и по его условиям вы находитесь по одну сторону со Snork1979 т.к. если он проигрывает вы оба отправляете деньги, что как бы намекает на ваш совместный проигрыш.

A-Bolt невинная жертва манипуляций

Кошмар, уже и A-Bolt в жертву нарядили.  Shocked Я думаю, он волен делать, что ему хочется, и в манипуляциях он точно не участвует.

Я лишь высказал свое мнение насчет A-Bolt в контексте того, что к нему претензиий не имею (он на себя никаких обязательств не брал и волен делать что хочет).
Однако, это лишь мое мнение.
У одной из сторон спора очевидно есть иное мнение:
Чем богаты...
Ты же понимаешь что вмешательство в спор не вовлеченных лиц может иметь определенные последствия?
~

Так что вы, уважаемый, полегче с такими громкими заявлениями как "в манипуляциях он точно не участвует". Мнений много, а чье верное неизвестно.


Проблемы с пониманием? Это к тому, что Snork1979 совместно с вами нарушал условия пари.
Но с учетом того что Snork1979 дал заднюю и лишь бы не признавать свои нарушения вовсе отказался от факта пари это уже не имеет значения.

icopress, похоже пари досрочно расторгнуто ввиду очевидных нарушений  Smiley

С чего это вы это решили? 29 декабря еще не наступило.

Бля... да написано же "ввиду очевидных нарушений", смысл ждать каких-то дат если пари похерено уже сейчас.
Да, и не забываем что Snork1979 проебал оферту и пари вовсе не состоялось.

И вообще, это спор между icopress и Snork1979. Пусть сами между собой разбираются, не надо им пихать свои условия, что и как должно быть. Надо было в спор заходить, тогда бы и условия свои рассказывали, а сейчас уже поздно метать бисер.

Эту басню уже и сам Snork1979 пел (аргументов то нет). Тут вам даже Excimer в грубой форме но по делу написал:

Что мешало вашему трио в Л/C бы и заключить пари. Сами же на публике пари заключали, показуху устраивали. А теперь жалуются что их бутылят

Пари публичное так что с чего вы "удивляетесь" что другие люди свои мнения высказывают непонятно.
(а еще тут кое-кто хотел в "историю крипты навсегда войти", а теперь "простите, это наше дело а не ваше" хехе, поджилки то слабоваты оказались для вхождения в историю.

Такой цирк развели из-за какой-то несчастной сотки баксов, чуть ли не до каждой буквы доёбываетесь. Такое ощущение, что спор был на общие 50 биткоинов и теперь каждый шаг под прицелом. Смешно. Undecided

Мне все равно на что спор - 1$ или 1 битокоин.
До букв начал доебываться Snork1979 на чем и погорел.
Изначально я продвигал идею добросовестного спора, а не доебывания до букв. Кстати, вот если вы, Ratimov, выиграете спор у кого-нибудь на 12 кг сыра, и он вам эти 12 кг пришлет (с щедрой приправой из 5 кг говна например), то вы сочтете условия спора выполнеными (по буквам все Ок) или посчитаете что некие необговариваемые договоренности о добросовестности были нарушены?
10797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 23, 2021, 10:01:58 PM
Damn, it was so close. Still, the absence of Mbappe and Neymar influenced the result. Messi continues not to score goals and keeps worsening his statistics - I wonder if this will ever end? It seems to me that this state of affairs is already a serious burden on the psyche of Messi, who is used to scoring a lot and being in full view of everyone.
Messi and Ronaldo have issues with ageing and I don't think they can solve their issues completely. At their ages now, they will have more ups and downs in their performance and they will not be able to score so many goals, in so many matches like what we saw five seasons ago.

Now, they are players of moments and we should enjoy any fantastic moment they have for us. We won't see so many moments like that because they are moving to end of their career.

When we talk about the French championship (and especially about playing at the top club - PSG), even taking into account age, we must expect different results. Let me remind you that Ibrahimovic came to PSG in adulthood and left at 35. At the same time, in 4 seasons he played 180 games and scored 156 goals. Messi scores well in the Champions League, but it is hard to deny that he has clear problems in the French Championship.
10798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 23, 2021, 09:55:11 PM
Disgusting. Matches without fans kill the atmosphere of football and turn even the most important match into a simple training session.
By the way, is this justified? It seems that the new strain of the virus has a negligible lethality, that is, it is very similar to the usual flu. Flu epidemics happen every season, but no one is imposing such a crackdown because of it.
I think it is a natural thing that should be taken by the German state football authority now, considering the spread of the new virus variant occurs quite quickly in crowd conditions, the step of banning spectators from attending the field is certainly very detrimental to the club because they do not have income from match tickets, besides it's football today without the cheers of the audience, of course it's like we watch a practice, as well as those of us who watch at home as if the football match looks quite boring, but in my opinion it's better to ban spectators from coming to the field than the competition having to be stopped midway due to the pandemic .

Do you really think that people are more likely to get infected at the stadium than on public transport or the subway? I honestly do not understand these ridiculous measures, given that the majority of the population is already vaccinated + the new strain is much less dangerous than the previous ones. What were all the previous measures for if we again run in a circle?
10799  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ EFL Championship ⚽ Prediction Round Mix #24/25 (Dec 26) on: December 23, 2021, 09:51:38 PM
1. Huddersfield - under
2. Draw - under
3. Luton - under
4. Middlesbrough - over
5. West Brom - over
6. QPR - under
7. Draw - under
8. Blackburn - over
9.  Draw - under
10. Sheffield Utd - under
11. Bournemouth - over
12. Draw - under

sportsbet.io username: KTChampions
10800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 23, 2021, 09:41:37 PM
Extremely unpleasant results in this round: Milan, Inter, Juventus scored points, while Roma, Napoli, Atalanta lost. Napoli managed to lose at home to Spezia - one of the worst teams in Serie A. It's good that yesterday I did not have time to place bets here - 100% I would add to the multi-bet match Napoli - Spezia and lose.
With these results, AC Milan and Inter Milan will keep fighting for Scudetto. Juventus climb up more on the table and Roma only have 1 point from Sampdoria (not lost). Atalanta and Napoli failed so they all together make the competition for positions from third to fourth is very interesting. Juventus are the most solid team in last few matches. They silently collected points and climbed up on Serie A table.

I think Juventus and Atalanta will be best candidates for these positions. Roma and Napoli might have to accept positions from fifth to sixth. It is not surprise for Roma but too bad for Napoli.

For me personally, it will be boring if the scudetto are played by Milan and Inter, I love when the underdog is involved in the fight, and not the clubs that have been in the top for decades. As for Juventus, how good it is will be seen in the next round against Napoli (hopefully Napoli will come to its senses by this time), up to this point Juventus has been successful mainly due to a series of easy opponents.
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