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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICOv2 ANN][DAR] Darcrus | Blockchain Database Startup - Enterprise, Everywhere on: December 22, 2016, 05:23:20 AM
ICO v 2 coming in less than 2 hours. Just keep my btc in my wallet to be able to contribute.
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 22, 2016, 05:19:18 AM
Egg portal for redeeming bounties is sure as busy as christmas shoppers would be nowadays. Just can't wait to accumulate finally my eggs to know the total of my wings tokens.

When will we find out the exact amount of our tokens from eggs?

On JAN 6

there has been about 250,000 eggs hatched so far Smiley

I know a few writers/translators who haven't turned there's in yet, so I think it might be something like 5 wings for every egg, but we will see.

Still waiting for the final number on my eggs accumulation before I redeem it. So far so good for me. Go WINGS.
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 21, 2016, 05:22:47 AM
Egg portal for redeeming bounties is sure as busy as christmas shoppers would be nowadays. Just can't wait to accumulate finally my eggs to know the total of my wings tokens.
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][JNS] Janus | Blockchain secured global business on: December 21, 2016, 05:10:55 AM
Has the bounty for signature been distributed yet? Eventhough the project was cancelled dev assured that bounties will be paid .
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: December 21, 2016, 05:08:00 AM
I can not wait to see the swap page for BTCD. I have accumulated some and ready to exchange once it is ready.
1086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | STRATIS | The first blockchain developed for businesses |Full POS on: December 21, 2016, 05:00:54 AM
Stratis now on cruise control mode. Until the next development will be announced , we will expect a see saw effect on the price.
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICOv2 ANN][DAR] Darcrus | Blockchain Database Startup - Enterprise, Everywhere on: December 21, 2016, 04:49:07 AM
Good thing I have spare BTC to participate in 2nd ICO. I still am confident that we can reach the threshold in one day.
1088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICOv2 ANN][DAR] Darcrus | Blockchain Database Startup - Enterprise, Everywhere on: December 20, 2016, 09:10:33 AM
Just rejoin signature campaign  . Good thing I checked the spreadsheet. I first thought my first application would be carry over to the v 2 ICO. But that is not the case.  I had to repeat the application process.
1089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ {18.11.2016 - 06.01.2016} on: December 20, 2016, 08:02:49 AM
Wings ICO will be successful and its campaign is now on BTC ATM across the globe.
1090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICOv2 ANN][DAR] Darcrus | Blockchain Database Startup - Enterprise, Everywhere on: December 20, 2016, 07:50:49 AM
Just finished my Filipino translated ICOv2 of Darcrus. I still believe will be a force to reckon with in p2p transaction.
1091  Local / Altcoin Announcements (Pilipinas) / [ICOv2 ANN][DAR] Darcrus | Blockchain Database Startup - Panukala, KahitSaan on: December 20, 2016, 07:32:38 AM
Base sa original post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1722137











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MGA PETSA

ANG DAR ICO AY MAGSISIMULA NG Disyembre 21, 2016 HANGGANG  Disyembre 28, 2016

Ang ICO site ay magiging live po ng Disyembre 21 sa Bittrex! Ang pamamahagi po ng mga Token ay gaganapin po sa Disyembre 28, 2016 direcho po sa inyong  Bittrex exchange acccount.

Lumang v1 thread (Na-irefund po ang mga BTC dahil po di nakamit ang 1000 BTC ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676111.0

Nakalathala sa ibaba ang buong termino para sa kampanya ng Darcrus Crowdfunding. Ang mga kundisyon at di mapapalitan habang nasa panahon ng kampanya. Walang prior asset payment schedule ang naibibigay mula sa  SIGFARM o SIGWONET.

Sa 50,000,000 TOTAL na Darcrus tokens, ang Bittrex ay syang mamahala sa 42,000,000 tokens para sa  ICO na may iba't ibang antas ng presyo. Nasa ibaba ang price schedule:

  • Early Bird:    2500 satoshi each, 10,000,000 available (40,000 DAR kada BTC)
  • Phase 1:        4000 satoshi each, 13,125,000 available (25,000 DAR kada BTC)
  • Phase 2:       5000 satoshi each, 10,500,000 available (20,000 DAR kada BTC)
  • Phase 3:       6000 satoshi each, 8,375,000 available (16,666.67 DAR kada BTC)

42,000,000 Darcrus Tokens Available para sa ICO.

Ang crowdfund ay tatakbo ng 7 araw simula sa Disyembre 21, 2016 sa 11:00:00 PST at magtatapos ng Disyembre 28, 2016 sa 10:59:59 PST.
Dapat makalikom ng di bababa ng 250 BTC para ito ay maging matagumpay. Bawat  phase ay magkakaroon ng panibagong development milestone na popondohan ng Darcrus para ito makamit dahil sa ICO. Ang mga karagdagang development ay maipapatupad kasabay sa paglaki ng Darcrus.

  • Early Bird: dAppsheet in JavaScript + buyback of 10% net profits on Bittrex
  • Phase 1: Early Bird + additional 15% net profits (25% total) buyback on Bittrex
  • Phase 2: Early Bird + Phase 1 + dAppsheet in Python
  • Phase 3: All prior + Mining Farm with 50% net profits buy back on Bittrex

Tokens na nabili sa buyback ay susunugin.

Kapag di nakamit ang pagtatagupayang kundisyon, mai-rerefund lahat ng BTC sa paraan ng isang buy wall. Ang mga trading fees ay di mairerefund kahit anong  mangyari.

Lahat ng coins na di naibenta pagkatapos ng  7-araw na crowdsale ay susunugin o sisirain gamit ang NXT built-in token deletion command o mismong sa Bittrex .

PAMAMAHAGI

A TOTAL 50,000,000 DAR AY MABABAHAGI SA MGA SUMUSUNOD

  • 42,500,000  PARA SA MGA LALAHOK SA ICO
  •  5,000,000  PARA SA KASALUKUYANG SIGFARM AT SIGWO ASSET HOLDERS
  •  1,000,000  PARA SA TEKNOLOHIYA, PAG-AAYOS AT AUDITING
  •  1,000,000  PARA SA PAGBUBUO NG MARKETING AT KALAKARAN
  •      500,000   FOR ICOv1 BOUNTIES (read more on our blog).
  •      500,000*   FOR ICOv2 BOUNTIES (read more on our blog).


Anumang tokens na hindi  naibenta sa ICO ay SUSUNUGIN. Maiaadjust ang mga presyo ayon sa mga nasirang tokens.  Halimbawa, kapag 42% ang total Darcrus na nasunog, ang mga palitan ay mababawasan ng 42% para makasisiguro na patas.


Kasalukuyang mayroong 5,371,282 kabuuang mga SIGWONET at SIGFARM tokens. May 1:1 palitan ang makukuha ng mga may kasalukuyang hawak ng mga tokens. Ang sobrang 371,282 ay susunugin mula sa personal na pagbibili ng SIGFARM ng founder upang matiyak na patas ang 5,000,000 na palitan nito. Gagamitin ang NXT messaging upang mapang abot sa mga Founders .




2016
December 9th    ▶  Alpha Release ng dAppsheet v1
December 21st  ▶  ICO Panimula, Kampanya para sa Pabuya, Twitter campaign
December 28th  ▶  ICO Pagtatapos & Pamamahagi ng mga Token

2017
January  ▶  Pamamahagi ng mga Pabuya
January  ▶  Programa para sa Buy Back (ICO Phase depende)
February  ▶  C3 Technologies Proof of Concept
March      ▶  Doolitte Institute Demonstration
May        ▶  Paglalabas ng dAppsheet v1, fully integrated sa Sigwo Technologies
Summer  ▶  Pagsisimula ng Project Jupiter (Logging)
Summer   ▶  Pagsisimula ng Project Mercury (Multifactor Authentication)
Fall          ▶  Alpha Release ng Jupiter, Alpha Release ng Mercury

2018
Spring   ▶  Paglalabas ng dAppsheet v2
Summer ▶  Pagbububo sa Negosyo, pangkuha ng mga customers






Daragdagan ba ng DAR ang kasulukuyang bilang ng taga-buo? - Opo, wala pong hangganan ang paglaki  ng aming katrabaho.
Gaano kalaki ang pondong nais niyong mailikom? - Mga nasa 1000 -3000 BTC ang nais naming makolekta.
Kailan ba magdedesiyon kung anong platapormang blockchain gagana ang application? - Tatakbo ang application sa iba't ibang plataporma. Nais naming pagpilian ang Waves, Nxt, nStratis o kaya ang Bitcoin fork. Nag-umpisa na nga akong gumawa ng framework para sa Bitcoin fork.
Ginawa ng Darcrus ang original na dAppsheet, puede ba itong baguhan ng mga kompanyang nais gumamit para sa kanilang tema at pangangailangan at matulungan ng Darcrus sa mga pagsusuporta bilang isang serbisyo.

Gagawa ang Darcrus ng original dAppsheet, puede ba itong baguhan ng mga kompanyang nais gumamit para sa kanilang tema at pangangailangan at matulungan ng Darcrus sa mga pagsusuporta bilang isang serbisyo. alter them to there specific needs and Darcus can help them with that as a service? - Opo, makikipagkonsulta ang Darcrus sa mga customer para maigawa sa kanilang kagustuhan ang sarili nilang mga dAppsheet applications para sa kanilang tanging kailangan at tumulong sa pagplanong ipagamit ito. Puno ng katangian ang nakaantabay pagkatapos makipag-usap tungkol sa negosyo at makinig sa kanilang pangangailangan.
Sa OP: .. para sa mga kompanya maakma ang kanilang kagustuhan sa pagtukoy, paninigil, accounting........... Pag sinabing accounting, ang ibig bang sabihin ay accounting ng isang kompanya gaya ng pagsasaayon ng mga resibo, mga statements galing banko, atpa? - Opo, halos lahat ng klase ng ginagawa sa tradisyonal na database puede lumipat sa isang dAppsheet, lalo na ang mga nangangailangan sa fiduciary o ligal na papeles at prueba ng katunayan.
Mga pabuya para sa prueba sa pinanghahawakan: Ibig bang sabihin nito ay kapag meron kang pinanghahawakang mga Darcrus tokens ay makakakuha ka ng kaukulang pabuya gaya sa mga tipo ng napagkakitaan mula sa mga hati o parte sa isang pinuhunan? - Ang prueba sa pinanghahawakan ay ginaya sa estilo ng Dash (at iba pang) masternode na uri ng kabayaran sa mga mayroon masternodes. Gagamit ito ng iba't ibang pamamaraan ng pagbibigay ng pabuya gamit ang staking dahil sa ayokong mag-aksaya ng mga development cycles  sa isang natatanging blockchain para lang sa paghawak ng Darcrus (at lahat ng pangangailangan, pagbabago, remedyo, atpa.). Maganda ang NXT at Waves para sa mga platapormang pang asset token at pati na rin sa platapormang pagbubuo . Maibibigay naman ng nStratis ang mga private chains na may kaakibat na halos walang hangganang kakayahan at pag-aayos ayon sa kagustuhan para magamit at mabuo ang dAppsheet sa panahong kailangan at naihiling.
Pamamahagi: Wala po bang DAR ang maibabahagi sa mga bumubuo?  O nakasama na ito sa 5,000,000  dahil sila ang kasalukuyang may hawak ng Sigfarm at Sigwo? - Mayroong 5 milyong nakalaan para sa SIGWONET  at SIGFARM , 2 milyon para sa Darcrus at 500,000 para sa mga ibibigay na pabuya (sa ANN). Mag-iiwan ito ng 42,500,000 para sa mga lalahok sa ICO.
Nalilito ako sa kampanya sa twitter, maliwanag ang instructions sa blog pero sa BCT (nagdaang pahina) nabanggit din ang kampanya sa the viral exchange. Gagana ba ang Darcrus sa kampanya sa TVE? - Maidadagdag ang Darcrus sa TVE sa mga susunod na araw.
Meron bang hangganan ang kabuuang halaga sa ICO? - Sa ngayon ay di po limitado ang kabuuang halaga.
Meron bang kampanya sa pabuya para sa lagda? - Meron po. Basahin po  ang aming blog
Meron bang kampanya sa pabuya para sa pagsasalin sa ibang wika? - Meron po. Basahin po ang aming blog


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Mga Press Releases:
WAVES Weekly No. 17 - http://coremedia.info/index.php/waves-news/item/347-waves-weekly-no-17
Welcome to Darcrus - https://blog.darcr.us/welcome-to-darcrus-3b21c0c79986#.i70jp8ud1
FAQs for you - https://blog.darcr.us/faqs-for-you-250ae8930f9b#.5btw5e5jl
#blocktalk - Sigwo Technologies & Darcrus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYFiXwWaac
Darcrus Buy Back Program Details - https://blog.darcr.us/darcrus-buy-back-program-details-7cd449bb9333#.1mzvvsv13
Whitepaper (initial release - 20 November 2016) - http://darcr.us/docs/DarcrusWP-v1.pdf
Darcrus: Why Companies Need dAppsheet? - http://coremedia.info/index.php/blockchain-news/item/357-darcrus-why-companies-need-dappsheet
Pagsilip sa dAppsheet V0.1 Alpha template - https://blog.darcr.us/15-for-darcrus-84df6ca173f9#.lpbew7owt
On the front cover of Issue #16 of Core - https://www.joomag.com/magazine/http-coremediainfo-december-2016/0294254001480185313?short
Darcrus: Enterprise, Everywhere - http://coremedia.info/index.php/blockchain-news/item/351-darcrus-enterprise-everywhere
Cointelegraph - https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/blockchain-database-startup-enterprise-everywhere
Bitcoin.com - https://news.bitcoin.com/darcrus-enterprise-everywhere , https://news.bitcoin.com/darcrus-will-launch-prototype-initial-coin-offering/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Bitconnect.co - https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/340/darcrus-project-enterprise-everywhere/
Cryptocoins news - https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/darcrus-dappsheet-prototype-released-ico/
Sosobtc - http://www.sosobtc.com/article/18988.html
Blockchain HK - http://news.blockchain.hk/blockchain-database-startup-darcrus-prototype-development-started-and-will-release-soon/
Sohu - http://mt.sohu.com/20161114/n473074503.shtml
8-btc - http://8btc.com/thread-41975-1-1.html
Houbi - https://news.huobi.com/article/detail/9943.html
Btc38 - http://www.btc38.com/btc/altgeneral/12592.html
Maipalalabas ang isang prototype ng Darcrus habang may Kampanya sa Crowdfunding
English version:
https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/darcrus-to-release-prototype-during-the-crowdfunding-campaign
Chinese version:
http://news.blockchain.hk/blockchain-database-startup-darcrus-prototype-development-started-and-will-release-soon/
http://www.toutiao.com/i6357208377579274754/
http://mt.sohu.com/20161126/n474223861.shtml
http://www.bitett.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1664

Steven linked account - https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-grove-b5aa4ab4
Site - https://darcr.us
Twitter - https://twitter.com/darcrus
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/darcrus/
Blog - https://blog.darcr.us
Slack - https://darcrus.slack.com (para makakuha ng imbitasyon https://inviteme.darcr.us)



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1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born. Campaign Starts 18 November! on: December 18, 2016, 06:44:31 AM

--snip


Who would be the reporter of the outcome?


Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.

It seems that you are here on wings thread just to make comparison with your chronosbank ico . Are you somewhat less confidence with your chronosbank ? Tell you what Wings is a different beast and a lot of of potentials . Don't get me wrong but somehow you are feeling threaten by Wings . Why not invest on Wings at the same time with chronosbank. As the saying goes do not put eggs in one basket.
1093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born. Campaign Starts 18 November! on: December 17, 2016, 05:53:26 AM
Is this project going to continue if less than 5000BTC?

 I think Wings team get some basic things wrong, No signature campaign during ICO funding, using the term donation instead of investment and keep referring to the way Ethereum did their own ICO, there is no two similar projects and people have been scammed and want to protect their investment first before anything

I guess you are a little bit misinformed or did not have time to read the OP . Signature campaign was done in pre-ICO . 4 months running.
1094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO CLOSED][DAR]Darcrus | Blockchain Database Startup - Enterprise, Everywhere on: December 13, 2016, 06:51:35 AM
I sent all 512 registered participants an email to give instructions on providing the BTC refund address.

BTC REFUND option is open and available to fill out!
 
2FA IS *ENFORCED* for DARCRUS refunds. After entering your credentials, click the SUBMIT button and check your email. Check SPAM, JUNK, TRASH, special rules, etc etc for the confirmation code email. Check these places before emailing or PMing me. MY EMAIL IS
 
info@darcr.us
 
Click the 'Refund Address' link on the left
Enter ANY BTC ADDRESS YOU WISH!!!!!!
I will be processing refunds in batches. You will receive your sent BTC amount minus any transaction fees.
 
YOU MUST HAVE YOUR BTC ADDRESS SAVED BY December 14th, 2016 at 1800GMT!! I must close out the refunds in a timely manner to carry out with the revised campaign!
 
ALL BOUNTIES WILL BE PAID! YES ALL BOUNTIES WILL BE PAID!
After the next ICO completes. TVE is still on and signatures will be updated! We have your information and will calculate for this failed attempt, and new rules for the NEW ICO. EITHER WAY YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU PARTICIPATED IN!!!!
 
I will be sending BTC back to you as fast as possible! Thank you for your participation and I hope to see you in the next successful campaign. Please. Spread the word. Thanks. Merry Christmas!


Advance Merry Christmas too sigwo and just send out my btc refund address just as instructed . Darcrus will be back with a vengeance and I'll stick to your project as time goes by and start to do another ICO. Great project indeed.
1095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICO: CGC PROJECT - Online Card Games - Real time Market - BOUNTIES ! on: December 13, 2016, 06:46:36 AM
Kindly reserve for Filipino translation (Philippines) . Thank you
1096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born. Campaign Starts 18 November! on: December 12, 2016, 03:45:03 AM
Got very little for signature campaign, based on exchange 1 egg = 2 wings. I did not know it would be on end of fundraising.
It is around 1 egg =1.85 wings at this time (if all eggs are converted). Many are trying to get eggs. There are some translators who would be getting more eggs.

But I expect that it would end up being greater than 2 wings/ egg . Many of Bounty hunters would would forget to exchange eggs to wings.

The Bounty hunters who aren't active on Bitcointalk may forget about it. The email of wings was automatically sent to promotions label in my Gmail. I check out promotion rarely in my Gmail. I think there would be many more like me.

However, I know about it because I'm active on Bitcointalk.

Yes we think it will be higher than this, but that is the worst case scenario.  Right now only about 200k eggs have been sent into fly.wings.ai

I'm going to do an email tomorrow highlighting things from last week, so I'm sure that will add some wave of people.

I am still waiting for the final count of my eggs before I would redeem it. 2:1 sounds to be great.
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: December 08, 2016, 02:22:58 AM
I am just wondering where are the two most avid fan of waves.... paging lestherat and Bitboy12345 . Its been ages since I last seen you guys around here . What gives?
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | STRATIS | The first blockchain developed for businesses |Full POS on: December 08, 2016, 02:12:05 AM
This De Selby guy is one of a kind. You boast yourself selling Stratis at its peak then attack the project that made money for you . Just share your experience with Stratis then be grateful and not to spread negative over its product development.
1099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born. Campaign Starts 18 November! on: December 08, 2016, 02:06:21 AM
Now that WINGS team are recruiting prominent personalities in crypto , it must a strategy for long term and influential move to lure potential donators on WINGS ICO.
1100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KOINKARTEL - Full Scale, Ready made, Altcoin Projects on: December 07, 2016, 11:18:17 AM
Any bounty or the other

We aren't offering any bounties.

Thank you

Impressed! Okay guys, i'll be the first to give a thumbs up on this. Just bought in. They are the real deal

Appreciated Smiley

Our main aim is to provide convenience by allowing new and experienced developers to circumvent the development process entirely, yet still end up with a pristine, high quality altcoin to base ICO campaigns around, or to launch direct to exchange.

Coding is not fun. Designing is not fun. But profit IS fun.

Also there many pm's coming in, so I'm trying to get back to everyone as quickly as I can so I'll be sending out responses to everyone shortly

Cheers,
Lex Kartel



good move you offer no bounty . I will watch this.
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