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1081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 31, 2017, 09:53:59 PM
Full Hungarian Grand Prix Race Results from the Hungaroring, Round 11 of the 2017 Formula 1 World Championship. 

1. Sebastian Vettel    GER   Ferrari - Ferrari    70 laps 
2. Kimi Raikkonen    FIN   Ferrari - Ferrari    +0.9s 
3. Valtteri Bottas    FIN   Mercedes - Mercedes   +12.4s 
4. Lewis Hamilton    GBR   Mercedes - Mercedes   +12.8s 
5. Max Verstappen NED   Red Bull - TAG    +13.2s 
6. Fernando Alonso    ESP   McLaren-Honda    +1m 11.2s 
7. Carlos Sainz    ESP   Toro Rosso-Renault    +1 lap 
8. Sergio Perez    MEX   Force India-Mercedes   +1 lap 
9. Esteban Ocon    FRA   Force India-Mercedes   +1 lap 
10. Stoffel Vandoorne   BEL   McLaren-Honda    +1 lap 

11. Daniil Kvyat    RUS   Toro Rosso-Renault    +1 lap 
12. Jolyon Palmer    GBR   Renault - Renault    +1 lap 
13. Kevin Magnussen DEN   Haas-Ferrari    +1 lap 
14. Lance Stroll    CAN   Williams - Mercedes    +1 lap 
15. Pascal Wehrlein    GER   Sauber - Ferrari    +2 laps 
16. Marcus Ericsson    SWE   Sauber - Ferrari    +2 laps 

Did not finished 

17. Nico Hulkenberg    GER   Renault - Renault    68 laps 
18. Paul di Resta    GBR   Williams - Mercedes    61 laps completed 
19. Romain Grosjean FRA   Haas-Ferrari    19 laps completed 
20. Daniel Ricciardo AUS   Red Bull - TAG    0 laps completed




Important victory for Ferrari. Finally Raikkonen was helpful to his team. Probably the championship will be decided at the last race!
1082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 29, 2017, 06:56:53 PM
Pole position top 10 times:

1SEBASTIAN VETTEL Ferrari       1:16:276
2KIMI RAIKKONEN     Ferrari           +0:168
3VALTTERI BOTTAS Mercedes      +0:254
4LEWIS HAMILTON Mercedes       +0:431
5MAX VERSTAPPEN Red Bull         +0:521
6DANIEL RICCIARDO Red Bull         +0:542
7FERNANDO ALONSO McLaren     +1:273
8STOFFEL VANDOORNE McLaren +1:618
9CARLOS SAINZ JR Toro Rosso    +1:636
10JOLYON PALMER Renault F1     +1:722

Great time (record of track) and pole position for Vettel! If the Ferrari will not make mistakes, can make first and second piace

1083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 28, 2017, 12:13:30 PM
Who will win the serie A?

Juventus @1.80
Napoli      @4.50
Ac Milan  @6.50
Roma      @10.00
Inter         @10.00

Juventus is favorite but less than last year.

Napoli has held all of its strongest players and is finally convinced of winning the serie A

Ac Milan is now the third favorite (just a month ago was quoted at@13). If a top striker comes, he can fight for victory

Roma (second in the last season) seems not to convince the bookmakers (new young coach, Rudiger and Salah sold)

Inter  has an excellent coach ( Spalletti) but is doing a disappointing transfermarket session.


1084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2017 Football Summer Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 28, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Who took more money from the sales of his players?

1) Monaco              170M
2) Real Madrid        125M
3) Benfica                115M
4) Roma                   110M
5) Everton                105M (85M Lukaku)
6) Lyon                     103 M

Everyone in Monaco can sell great players: James Rodriguez, Martial, Carrasco, Kondogbia.
 But despite this, it always finds new big players and achieves great results

Yeah Monaco must have a great youth system, they constantly develop young players who become stars & then sell for big money. You can go all the way back to players like Thierry Henry to see this.

One other club who sell players for lots but maybe not in recent years
 is Porto.
The Portuguese teams are the ones who sell their players better. Both Benfica and Porto have gained more than 700M from their players' sales.

Here are some great players sold by Benfica and Porto:
Benfica: Ederson ,Lindelof, Witsel, Di Maria, Renato Sanchez
Porto: Hulk,Falcao, Jackson Martinez, James Rodriguez, Andrè Silva
1085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 28, 2017, 09:55:15 AM
Here are the first 10 times of the FP1 of the Gp of Hungary:

1 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull     gap     1’18"486
2 Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari      +00″234
3 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes  +00"372  
4 Valtteri Bottas  Mercedes    +00″762  
5 Max Verstappen  Red Bull    +00″849  
6 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari        +01″077
7 Fernando Alonso McLaren   +01"501
8 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren +01"519
9 Nico Hulkenberg Renault      +01"664
10 Jolion Palmer Renault         +01"975


Amazing time for Ricciardo! He is very close at record of track of Barrichello in 2004 (1’18"436)
1086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: July 28, 2017, 08:50:10 AM
How would play the 3 favorite teams today in Liga:


Barcelona: 433 Ter-Stegen SEMEDO-Piquè-Umtiti-Jordi Alba  Rakitic-Busquets-Iniesta Messi-Suarez-Neymar.

Real Madrid: 433  Navas Carvajal-Ramos-Varane-Marcelo Modric-Casemiro-Kroos Bale-Benzema-Cristiano Ronaldo

At. Madrid: 442  Oblak Juanfran-Savic-Godin-Filipe Luis-Saul-Gabi-Koke-Carrasco Griezmann-Gameiro

Until this time they would play the same way last year, and At. Madrid despite the Ban may be the surprise of the upcoming Liga.
Cholo Simeone loves these challenges and can motivate even more his players.

If the three teams are still using the same way of playing as last year, I think the competition will only belong to two teams ie barcelona and real madrid but I think barcelona can beat real madrid this year.

Surely Barcelona and Real Madrid are favorite, but I would not underestimate the at madrid: it is always the best defense in Liga, it has young talents: Saul (22 years old), Carrasco (23 years old) griezmann (26 years old), has a top coac.
If the at. Madrid will be able to remain attached to Barca and Real Madrid and in January will buy a great attacker (diego costa?) can win the Liga
1087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2017 Football Summer Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 28, 2017, 08:26:42 AM
Who took more money from the sales of his players?

1) Monaco              170M
2) Real Madrid        125M
3) Benfica                115M
4) Roma                   110M
5) Everton                105M (85M Lukaku)
6) Lyon                     103 M

Everyone in Monaco can sell great players: James Rodriguez, Martial, Carrasco, Kondogbia.
 But despite this, it always finds new big players and achieves great results
1088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONS CUP 2016 Discussion and Tips on: July 28, 2017, 07:36:49 AM
Why bayern munich playing so bad in international champions cup, they already lose twice against ac milan and inter milan that i know bayern munich doesn't sell even one their player.

Bayern has suffered 8 goals in 3 matches,surely it isn't  in good shape and Neuer missed, but perhaps the most absent is Lahm.
He gave security and experience to his team.
 Ancelotti must also find a greater balance because with James Rodriguez the team seems too offensive.
As soon as the shape and balance is reestablished, bayern will be the usual team that will dominate the bundesliga and among the favorites in the Champions League
1089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 28, 2017, 07:06:29 AM
Who will win the Gp of Hungary?
 
Lewis Hamilton  @1.85
Sebastian Vettel @4.50
Valtteri     Bottas @5.50
Max Verstappen @11.00
Daniel Ricciardo  @12.00
Kimi Raikkonen   @15.00


This gp is very important and will tell us if vettel can continue to fight for the championship win, if bottas will only be the second driver of the Mercedes or instead will be free to win; And we will see if the red bull have reduced the gap.
1090  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: July 28, 2017, 06:44:32 AM
Secondo voi, il prezzo del bitcoin, attualmente sta salendo perché c'è fiducia per ciò che accadrà il primo Agosto o perché la gente sta accumulando più BTC possibili per avere eventuale doppia moneta in caso di Fork?!

Questa è una bella domanda che mi sto ponendo anche io da un po' di giorni... secondo me visto anche la leggere stabilità e/o un leggero ribasso delle altcoin si profila un comportamento generale della gente a holdare i BTC e magari ad accumularne di più scambiando le alt ... al fine di avere una doppia moneta.

Tale comportamento ha naturalmente la logica speculativa non tanto sbagliata ... ma potrebbe anke essere una arma a doppio taglio nel senso che se dopo il 1 agosto il mercato BTC e relativa nuova Coin di fork subissero una flessione negativa ... contestualmente le altcoin potrebbero balzare in alto e quindi chi ha scelto la orina strada potrebbe subire una perdita.

Alla fine come al solito parlare di queste previsioni è come prevedere un evento meteo nel lungo termine ...

Voi che cosa ne pensate?


Io mi aspettavo che in questi giorni il valore sarebbe sceso e invece siamo di nuovo sopra i 2700$.
Non ci resta che aspettare la prossima settimana per capire  cosa succederà e cioè se ci sarà un brusco calo o si sfonderà il muro dei 3000$
1091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: July 28, 2017, 06:20:02 AM
I think Man City will win the title this season. My prediction of the top 4 is as follows -

1. Manchester City
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Man Utd


Nah man.  It's gonna be Man City and Man United on first and second spots in the EPL.  The rest will have to settle for third and fourth for a chance of CL football.

Btw, check this video out.  It's a friendly between Man City and Real Madrid in LA and look at what this guy is doing.

https://youtu.be/9VUZ5d6sUSU?t=375

LOL!!!

Last year Manchester City started the season with 10 consecutive wins but then had some bad times. I am convinced that Manchester City will do better than last year but to win it is important to have continuity in the results and Conte is a master in this. The arsenal after so many years can only focus on the Premier League.
In December we will see who can really fight for victory
1092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 28, 2017, 12:58:45 AM
With the US tourney in August we could see both Nadal and Federer ranked first in the ranking atp. At stake there are 4000 points (2 tournaments master 1000, montreal and cincinnati and 1 slam tournament, Us Open).


Nadal can immediately become the first if he wins
Montreal tournament


1093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONS CUP 2016 Discussion and Tips on: July 28, 2017, 12:32:43 AM
This tournament has as its only utility to sponsor the various European clubs around the world.
But there is the risk of doing a bad physical preparation and undergoing the bad defeats.
Up to this point the worst defeats were those of Bayern (4-0 against Milan) and Real Madrid (4-1 against Manchester City).
1094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: July 28, 2017, 12:16:09 AM
Today in Europe League, loud defeat at home of PSV against Osijek quoted at @15.00.

At surprise also the victory of Suduva 3-0 against Sion, and the draws of Ath.bilbao against Din. Bucurest and Gent against Altach
Suduva big win is unexpected surprise. But they played really well against stronger opponents and Sion didn't had any good moments to score.
This year I noticed that big teams scores not many goals against underdogs. Mostly games ends only by one or two goals difference.

The season has yet to start and therefore big teams have a bad shape and only a few usable players.
The matches are therefore more balanced and there are these surprises.
1095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: July 27, 2017, 11:59:30 PM
How would play the 3 favorite teams today in Liga:


Barcelona: 433 Ter-Stegen SEMEDO-Piquè-Umtiti-Jordi Alba  Rakitic-Busquets-Iniesta Messi-Suarez-Neymar.

Real Madrid: 433  Navas Carvajal-Ramos-Varane-Marcelo Modric-Casemiro-Kroos Bale-Benzema-Cristiano Ronaldo

At. Madrid: 442  Oblak Juanfran-Savic-Godin-Filipe Luis-Saul-Gabi-Koke-Carrasco Griezmann-Gameiro

Until this time they would play the same way last year, and At. Madrid despite the Ban may be the surprise of the upcoming Liga.
Cholo Simeone loves these challenges and can motivate even more his players.
1096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 27, 2017, 11:35:17 PM
This week there is the Hungarian Gp (Hungaroring) in F1.

This track seems to be favorable to Ferrari, but the big favorite is still Lewis Hamilton who won 5 times here and made 5 pole positions.

If he does better than Vettel will go first in the world championship standings.


1097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 27, 2017, 11:19:52 PM
World football fans will have a big date with the Italian league, which will see almost every round match or two games of heavy caliber
1st   week   Inter Milan vs Fiorentina
2nd   ..….    Roma vs Inter Milan
3th    .....    Lazio vs AC Milan
5th    .....    Juventus vs Fiorentina and Lazio against Napoli
6th    .....    Torino is between Juventus and Torino
7th    .....    Milan against Rome
8th    .....    Inter against Milan and Roma against Napoli and Juventus against Lazio
9th    .....    Napoli vs Inter Milan
11th  .....    Milan vs Juventus
12th  .....    Fiorentina vs Roma
13th  .....    Roma, Lazio and Napoli against Milan
14th  .....    Lazio vs Fiorentina
15th  .....    Napoli vs Juventus
16th  .....    Juventus v Inter and Napoli v Fiorentina
18th  .....    Juventus vs Rome
19th  .....    Fiorentina vs Milan


The eighth week (15/10/2017) there are 3 big matches: Inter vs Ac Milan Roma vs Napoli and Juventus vs Lazio. It could tell us who can really fight for the Serie A win and who will fight for the champion's league seats.
That week will be really interesting and fun.
1098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2017 Football Summer Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 27, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
Ac milan would also be interested in CR7!
This transfer would be sensational but I think that's hardly what's happening, especially because the Milan this season plays the Europa league. Next year may be a transfer not entirely impossible.

1099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: July 27, 2017, 10:45:52 PM
I think Man City will win the title this season. My prediction of the top 4 is as follows -

1. Manchester City
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Man Utd

You think that Man United can't do more than fourth place this year? Mourinho is going to make championship team, I have no doubt about that but maybe he need one more year, even two years. He will attack title this year, don't think that he will take it but I believe that can go up to second place.

This year there are 7 very strong teams: Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and the possible Everton surprise. It is difficult to predict the 4 qualifiers at the Champion's League, even more who will win the Premier League. Surely those who will do a bad season can be exonerated. Coaches who are more likely to be exonerated are Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger
1100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: July 27, 2017, 10:30:29 PM
Today in Europe League, loud defeat at home of PSV against Osijek quoted at @15.00.

At surprise also the victory of Suduva 3-0 against Sion, and the draws of Ath.bilbao against Din. Bucurest and Gent against Altach
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