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1081  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meanwhile in lower Manhattan..... on: October 03, 2012, 10:16:44 PM
sweet!
1082  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bfl is ridiculous on: October 03, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
or a someone else call and verify please
1083  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can someone explain how the ASIC vendors can supply double spec hardware ? on: October 03, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
And see this is the thing the vast majority fails to see, these asic's as far as everyone knows are designed after old low end model chips. When a designer coughs up the 10k plus for a virtex-7 and builds that to ASIC, all there products will be null.... 150k LE VS 2Mil LE lol
1084  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can someone explain how the ASIC vendors can supply double spec hardware ? on: October 03, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
I think it is simply very cheap to add chips.  If the profit margin on product A @10GH is $200, and one can instead switch over to produce B @15GH which has a margin of $175, why not?

The question is, why would a company do this?  Well, they started with product A because the margin is higher.  They switched to product B because competition came in.  Simple as that.

Remember, with ASIC's, the cost for each additional unit is very small after you've put down the costs for the manufacture of the first one.  So whether you order 1,000 or 100,000 doesn't make a ton of relative difference to your outlay for the chips.  The thing that becomes expensive in the long run at things that run up the price without adding performance like cases, USB cables, shipping, power cords.... etc...

Chips are 60% cheaper when they get the die made and start churning them out. So that 300 dollar Stratix-3 they were buying has now became a 120 dollars. I even know a company that does chips for 0% NRE, they just charge you for the first full order upfront, If you were basing them off of a spartan-6 like the other guys are, the FPGA's cost 158.99 brand. 158.99/2 * 1000 "min order" = cost for first order. They send you 10 sample chips to put int he boards and test then once you guys agree they work they make and ship the rest.
1085  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can someone explain how the ASIC vendors can supply double spec hardware ? on: October 03, 2012, 02:52:25 PM
I know that's how I buy all of my electronics lol The paper said it was a 30 inch t.v. but when I got there they gave me a 60 inch t.v., man I love Best Buy.
1086  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Can someone explain how the ASIC vendors can supply double spec hardware ? on: October 03, 2012, 02:21:26 PM
Correction: the only people that will win are the ones that make the hardware.

Correction: the only people that will win are the ones that do not lose money Wink

back to the main thread:

chips performance is well known in the design phase, is known for the amount of logic gates and the technological process. Doubling the speed of chips in the production phase is either magic or clever marketing procedure. Firmware change can have a big effects in the FPGA but not ASIC.  if I'm wrong, correct me giving reasonable arguments.

+1 This is spot on and I said something like this in a different thread. The only way they could increase out put from what I understand is to increase chips on the board. That should not be hard it would just increase the power draw, and require a moderate change. Cost to a have a PCB custom designed? 100 USD.......
1087  Economy / Securities / Re: [Claim Process][BITCOINMINV] Information Inside on: October 03, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
.5 M/H if you would like more info, Please message me or check our website. I like to talk to all my investors 1 V 1 and know almost all of them that hold more then 100 shares.  I don't understand why I would cancel the rest of the IPO, I can just hold it and not offer it for sale till the time is better. Like I said we have room to expand and have more GPU's just need more PSU's. I personally do not feel it is the right time to buy more GPU equipment.  
1088  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Building your own ASICS device on: October 03, 2012, 12:30:24 AM
does anyone know where to get a lead on manufacturers or suppliers?

Yes and I have looked into it,

 
ASIC design is WAY beyond do-it-yourself . . .

Your right as well but there is enough out there to get one built, you could skip the FPGA step and just emulate it but, then you have no PCB design. The suppliers will send you about 10 chips to put on your PCB and check to make sure they work right and all, then they will send the rest of your order if all is well. Now to make the plates for a ASIC is about 250k, then you have to pay for the first batch usually not under 1000 chips at 40% to 50% cheaper then the FPGA cost. What I really don't understand is BFL was supposed to deliver like anyday now and they just increased there specs. To do that 1 of 2 things had to have taken place. (1) A new PCB with more chips was made... Not all that hard to add chips they work alone anyways. (2) A new ASIC would mean to start the process all over again, and increase wait time again. If you want some more info Message me I know some companys
1089  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE][BITCOINMINV] 5th dividend paid, still got some stock left! on: October 02, 2012, 10:01:54 PM
PSU - 0%  GPU  PCIe- 4 spots
1090  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Urgent 20 BTC Micro Loan Needed pay back in 72 hours on: October 02, 2012, 06:29:58 PM
take a picture with a shoe on your head so we know your real lol
1091  Economy / Gambling / Re: [PRIVATE BET] Luceo & Xisalty: Bitcoin vs Litecoin Price Bet on: October 02, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
It's already there lol
1092  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE][BITCOINMINV] 5th dividend paid, still got some stock left! on: October 02, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
Drunk Driver hit a light pole last night and I lost power for about 5 and half hour. Just giving a heads up on that one.
1093  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bias Judgements? on: October 02, 2012, 01:56:06 PM
No would SHOULD be anything lol, just cause you are own a business or service does not give you more rights "Hence 1% cries and all that crap". Everyone should have the same rights, the same DUE PROCESS. I have suggested this before and I think it still needs to be done a credit rating system for people and business on Bitcoin, and not a 2 starfish rating either. A real rating with complaint submits and investigations.  How one is rated should be published with a how many complaints filled how many solved, If someone refuses to solved the problem in X amount of time then the Score is tacked and the complaint is a Mark on there record for X amount of years. I started a system like this a while ago but everyone went to Patricks, which just rated borrowers.
1094  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bias Judgements? on: October 02, 2012, 01:09:15 PM
Yup and thats why I started bitcoinbusiness.org, free to join we got cake, games and tv! lol
1095  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Don't understand____Mining ~20 hours .17 bitcoin? on: October 01, 2012, 03:43:40 PM
Yes you should be banking a coin a day easy with that hash power, are you using gui miner? What do all the cards read by themselves? Does the one hooked up to the monitor hash more?
1096  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Giving Away a FREE 840Mh/s ModMiner Quad FPGA Miner Every Week in October! on: October 01, 2012, 02:46:33 PM
Entered lol This is a great advertising plan, good work!
1097  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Broadcast Station hits 3000+ Views ina week on: October 01, 2012, 01:50:56 PM
Added some user content
1098  Economy / Lending / Re: [OPEN] Tangible Cryptography LLC seeks Line of Credit to expand working capital. on: October 01, 2012, 12:59:18 PM
Hope all goes well for you and you expand, your service is great and I have used it and continued to use it.
1099  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer tag: Nefario. on: October 01, 2012, 12:49:19 PM
1 person having complete control of the exchange seems to be a problem. I am sure he is doing the best he can, but you have to understand all this be made up as he goes i'm sure. But returning goats coins is the right thing, I think he should have been given X amount of time to clear his account then be delisted. In the future I hope this is how all of it is take care of. Emotional business is bad business, and I feel this was the case here.
1100  Economy / Securities / Re: [LTC Global] - LTCI - Light mining fund and fund of funds on: September 30, 2012, 04:29:25 PM
This might be good when if all the GPU's flood the market. Ill watch this one, seems like it might a perfect timed move.
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