I think most of the trading on bittrex will be traders buying up low priced waves dumped by anyone who got bounties etc.Not many buyers will dump it I think.I only wanted to use bittrex to set a few low buy orders and not sell.Maybe a lot of btc from DAO and ETH will go into waves when it lands on poloniex.Dumping at a low price will only be doing those whales a favour and you may not be able to buy them back later either.
I think most of the bounties got dumped on YOBIT. There was some decent selling pressure between 40-50k yesterday, and now there is some 70btc walls around the 60k area. I think we could test the 60k range, but it would be more reasonable to expect a pump and settle into the low 100k area. atleast until polo gets in. I thought yobit is only selling IOU's, I haven't heard that news yet that we can trade to them because if that is true then I am one of the dumpers who would like to throw my waves right away. So they already dump at yobit? not possible. i just check it before replying here and their wallet says Deposit for such currency is temporary off.so there is no way people can dump their waves there.
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I can not believe someone would actually name their ambling site poordice. not sure if it can help the marketing but yeah do you intend to make this dice site only for poor gamblers? must be a branding technique.
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Where did you hear the news from? Also, what is (s)he being charged with? Post a link or it's just a made up rumor.
Ironically in another thread there were people saying the attacker was planning to sue the ethereum and DAO devs if they try to change the code to stop him claiming the coins he has. The DAO rules say the code is the final decider in a legal dispute, and the code's rules allowed him to attack the DAO, so it could be argued the hack was legal. ===== BEGIN SIGNED MESSAGE ===== To the DAO and the Ethereum community, I have carefully examined the code of The DAO and decided to participate after finding the feature where splitting is rewarded with additional ether. I have made use of this feature and have rightfully claimed 3,641,694 ether, and would like to thank the DAO for this reward. It is my understanding that the DAO code contains this feature to promote decentralization and encourage the creation of "child DAOs". I am disappointed by those who are characterizing the use of this intentional feature as "theft". I am making use of this explicitly coded feature as per the smart contract terms and my law firm has advised me that my action is fully compliant with United States criminal and tort law. For reference please review the terms of the DAO: "The terms of The DAO Creation are set forth in the smart contract code existing on the Ethereum blockchain at 0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413. Nothing in this explanation of terms or in any other document or communication may modify or add any additional obligations or guarantees beyond those set forth in The DAO’s code. Any and all explanatory terms or descriptions are merely offered for educational purposes and do not supercede or modify the express terms of The DAO’s code set forth on the blockchain; to the extent you believe there to be any conflict or discrepancy between the descriptions offered here and the functionality of The DAO’s code at 0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413, The DAO’s code controls and sets forth all terms of The DAO Creation." A soft or hard fork would amount to seizure of my legitimate and rightful ether, claimed legally through the terms of a smart contract. Such fork would permanently and irrevocably ruin all confidence in not only Ethereum but also the in the field of smart contracts and blockchain technology. Many large Ethereum holders will dump their ether, and developers, researchers, and companies will leave Ethereum. Make no mistake: any fork, soft or hard, will further damage Ethereum and destroy its reputation and appeal. I reserve all rights to take any and all legal action against any accomplices of illegitimate theft, freezing, or seizure of my legitimate ether, and am actively working with my law firm. Those accomplices will be receiving Cease and Desist notices in the mail shortly. I hope this event becomes an valuable learning experience for the Ethereum community and wish you all the best of luck. Yours truly, "The Attacker" ===== END SIGNED MESSAGE ===== Message Hash (Keccak): 0xaf9e302a664122389d17ee0fa4394d0c24c33236143c1f26faed97ebbd017d0e Signature: 0x5f91152a2382b4acfdbfe8ad3c6c8cde45f73f6147d39b072c81637fe81006061603908f692dc 15a1b6ead217785cf5e07fb496708d129645f3370a28922136a32 http://pastebin.com/CcGUBgDGThat message should be taken with a grain of salt. The verification signature was badly muffed, it's not even verifiable. Absolutely no proof that this message did come from the hacker. Either way, there is definitely a controversy as to whether or not he should be held accountable or even have his earnings rolled back via a fork. Actually good news either way. The best case is they settle out of court.. The attacker gets a small piece and dao gets most returned. If it was simply a moron write up of code it can fall under typographical error. kind of like when a car dealer runs an advert for a $19.99 car vs a $19,999.99 car. Dao will claim the wording was a typo and was not intended to wipe out the coin's value due to dilution. If it goes to court all funds will freeze and many years will pass before settlement. So this was not an attack this was not a hack this was an error in the dao wording the dev that did this has been found outall to do over nothing. they will do a settlement or fight it in court. it will not affect eth mining . a smart fix is give the guy 4 to 6% of the error shake hands and move on. so lets see what they do. so if they agree and hat they shake hands, they will move on then. lol those who dumped their DAOs are going to really regret for life. They should really buy back now.
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Except Vitalik has nothing to do with US laws (fortunately).
So that's going to save his ass? Good lord ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I've invested on DAOs too but I definitely don't put all my life savings there. we all know crypto isn't the whole thing in this world. And i guess those investors who deposit millions thinking they'd earn millions as well are just as noobs as they are. so they shouldnt try to find anyone to blame. they've been warned a lot of times in this forum.
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And forced to learn Russian ? No thanks ! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Well you gotta learned it if you are after all you are going to live there. you'd be outcast if you live there without interacting anyone. you'd be worse as ever if you do that.
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the use of report button is somehow wrongfully used by lots of individual with motives. and they even ask supporters to also report for a number of reports on facebook get things done. thats how it works this time.
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So will SebastianJu keep the premine to be released on a later date or will it be burned?
will be great if burned. This is a good idea for a presumably delocalised currency. I can see this reaching many miners of altcoins in order to get cheap GPUs! This also means that people that mine GPU coins can go onto instantly buying GPUs if they are trying to create marketplaces for this (with this intention).
I like that word, delocalized . . .this isn't aiming to be a decentralized currency, we just want to delocalize from a small market into a worldwide market, providing a currency. Value has been created, through all the pumps and dumps, GPU is settling at a higher price after every dump. It may not be a huge increase, i think huge increases are artificial. If I take a ruler, put it on the chart from day 1 till now we are gaining market traction and value We have been in a holding pattern waiting for block 100 000 Despite that, Usedgpus.com is on android, the Mac wallet was released. The same for IOS will be coming within days, and the android wallet shortly. Go Gpu Go Doesn't have to be very fancy so delocalized is good. The value is getting stronger! hoping to install IOS wallet on my phone soon.
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Well i don't expect in dao and ethereum its already destroyed and i don't want to invest my money again in the 2nd chance making a new one.. They are just losing trust and more people are regret for their project.. well we don't know them maybe they will make another one anonymously and start building trust again..
Maybe another will create another but as of now investors are disappointed. they can't believe a project worth 100M just crash due to a unsecured codes. they may consider investing to the existing ones.
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Account number must be a sequence of 35 alphanumeric characters with no spaces starting with '1W' ?? what is the meanning of this, when I send wave to bittrex?
you need to append 1W in the beginning of your waves addy. that will allow you to send the waves to bittrex. i just send mine too by following the instructions from the previous pages.
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if you haven't heard any of them yet nor found an ANN thread here in bitcointalk, you might just avoid it for now. there is a chance you'll get scammed. I find this a rule of thumb yet still its better to just stick to services that had proven tracks already.
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i don't mind sending my ID to a company as long as they don't put it available for everyone else to see. if its just for verification, i guess i can't do anything else but send my drivers license to prove i'm real.
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So after having a long talk with the team and investing for one share my understanding is that they (we) are building the first independent company to act as a gateway fiat gateway to waves, starting in turkey, a place that has a bad financial system, this is an entry way into waves, which also features btc, essentially becoming a gateway for the layman into crypto.
Once this first gateway is operational they will try to reach other countries including the US.
Then using waves and Bitkapital I will promote the worlds debt solvency organization, the first ever, and once all the debt is resolved we can redistribute the wealth causing crypto to become so much more valuable then fiat, ushering a paradigm shift from old fin-tech to new. This is my personal project, purely charity, not looking for return.
I think BitKapital can do alot of big things.
looks like a good plan. i would love to be take part of he ico once it starts. i have been with waves since the start too and i guess waves' train is no stopping now even when all the troubles during its release.
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A lot of signature campaign from the developer's ICO seem to be a lot interesting than these gambling sites actually. They are much worth joining this time especially if the token can potentially grow for a $1 each. I miss WAVES which is definitely worth joining.
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Ethereum's platform has done nothing wrong. It is the issule of the DAO's codes. Traders are not thinking rationally.
Exactly. its not ETH's fault. It shoulld be an easy money for you if you buy more ETH this time. it has proven to be a great system and will be back sooner. its cheaper now so it must be a good time to buy.
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you forgot to mention Monero is also going up.
some are going down and most probably because traders convert their coins to btc due to halving and that they'd be earning more because it might just double thier money.
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You would be earning much with bounties and ICO signature campaign because ICO just require few number of posts every week than signature campaign of some gambling companies. trading can be a good option too once you learn good.
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Dash is better and older but I like monero ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Monero was the first to offer anonymous transaction actually. We can somehow just look at those newer ones today as just the derivative of monero. Was interested to monero when i first heard of it.
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oh my god this is different from TITcoins function? i wonder which adult forum will support the coin. you guys may wanna try asking support from gfy.com users. I might vote you there.
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The program does not work. It has been more than ten hours since we tried the "free" hosting and the VPS is still pending. Sure glad we started with trying the free service out and did not actually spend any money.
it does need propagation that may take about a day. I haven't tried it yet. i've been setting up websites before and base on my experience I do think the propagation needs to be 24hours.
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