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10921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 💰 (LIR) 💰 LetItRide Gambling Suite 💰 Gamble with LIR Soon! on: October 06, 2016, 05:25:21 AM
Yobit needs to hold funds longer wtf
I still have my LIR in yobit, it is almost worthless now but I will just die with the project if it will really die. Anyway if it is recover then I would be rich for having a good amount of patience to hold it longer despite of the negative publication.
10922  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: October 06, 2016, 05:22:00 AM
I'm buying them because I expect them to increase in value. I know I can easily secure them and also have exclusive access with no counter party risk.
well you are right. bitcoin can be secured easily. and you can even save millions of dollars in bitcoin but no one will ask you about that. this is the best thing in bitcoin.
most of people buy bitcoin for this reason and most of people buy for ivnestment and spending reason.
When you are a frequent online businessman you will really save a lot from the transaction fee of transferring your funds because of the low cost transaction, we just need to educate people about bitcoin as I am sure when you can explain it right to them they will surely adopt.
10923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 06, 2016, 05:16:06 AM

it is all about self control.

some people have it and some people need some help to acheive it.

and for acheiving that you need to try hard sometimes, and this can be putting your funds in a safe and cut it or it can be going out and getting busy with some other activities.

Ya just like you said,this is totally about self control.This is the hard thing in gambling.At first,we just wan to gambling for fun,after that,when we already win a big amount of profit in short of time,we will feel greed and wanted more win.And the result,we will lose all the money we have.
Yes, i agree on this, if you control yourself then you able to do whatever you want. But in gambling, it is very hard to control yourself. Still, you have to do it. Then only your future will be happy. Otherwise this gambling will spoil your life.
Therefore if you have lack of self discipline in gambling it would be bad for you, knowing that by yourself should make you quit in gambling as the moment you will still continue, it would be easy for you to get addicted and you will not enjoy anymore because in your mind is all about money.
10924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 06, 2016, 05:11:16 AM
Gambling is so nice to do because you can do a lot of things with it and its very enjoying, you are doing a game and that is making it so much fun.
Of course its depending on which game but it stays fun!
Yeah gambling is very intense every bet you make  and its very exciting if you win much money .But if you make fun in gambling make a strategy to dont lose your money in instant.

Even you are going to make your own strategy as you gamble it tends that you are going still to lose with it. But if you are just going to make fun and enjoy as you gamble.

That is going to make you able to give you chance of winning because if you are not going to think about winning but you just tend to have fun.

Winning will just going to come to you as you gamble, that is base on my experience.

You are right, when we are playing gambling we  must not  aim for  profits because  our enjoyment  would be covered  by our  emotions of   being greedy which  is  not good, as you said   we  must  enjoy our game and  dont  expect for profits   because  results are random no matter how you  aim or expect it would not still  change  the results.
Easy to said mate but really hard to do it, that is the way we should do it but sometimes we are tempted with the reward and especially when we are losing we will be force to chase on our loses until we lose a bigger amount that we cannot afford to lose anymore.
10925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: October 06, 2016, 05:08:33 AM
Come one people, which currency is not used for illegal activities? If you make a knfie for cutting onion and somebody kills with it. The knife isn't guilty because an idiot used it for that. The same goes with crypto world.

You got the right explanation. It is a thing and you cant blame it. It will not react to everything you file against it. The one who used it will be the one who will be liable for the act that he or she did. Simple as that. Every currency can be used even the one with a low value.
If you use bitcoin for illegal activities you have to pay the price because when you get caught you will be put behind the bars, although bitcoin is a good currency to hide transactions online but we should be matured enough to know the possible consequences for illegal activities.
10926  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: October 06, 2016, 04:50:45 AM
Yeah of course you should believe in Bitcoin because it can allow you to make some money and that can be really nice. I am believing in Bitcoin and will continue to do so if I can make money with it.

Once someone starts earning it he himself will start believing it, because before someone can earn it they think it is really not something achievable or it is something not for us or for the ones who are superior, but that is not true, bitcoin is for everyone and everyone can have it they work for it.

Yes that is going to make him believe more in bitcoin once a bitcoin person started to experience earning in bitcoin or experience to have some transactions in bitcoin. He is going to love how fast transactions and easy are happening in bitcoin. And that is going to make his belief even stronger to bitcoin because of those things.
It really depends on our interest here in the bitcoin world, not all people are here to earn bitcoins but most of people who use bitcoin is they just use it a means to do their online transaction, like gambling which I believe that their interest is more on winning in gambling games than investing.
10927  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: October 06, 2016, 04:46:41 AM
you can find a way bitcoin faucet even though it was not menguntukan. when you are in the forum bitcointalk already get enough rank you can join the signature campaign to be there also translate languages. besides trading is one of the ways the least risk to get bitcoin.

Earning in faucets are though enough if you are just a plain faucet claimer what is going to happen that you are just going to waste your time.

But if you are going to build up your own faucet site and you are targeting a lot of visitors for sure you are going to get good profit on it.

Once your faucet is already getting a lot of visitors, advertisers are going to come to you.
Well, if you have your own faucets you are making money through the effort of others who are wasting their time, I think that is a better idea, all you need to do them is just promote your site and let them work for you. Great plan, you will earn more but with less effort.
10928  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: October 06, 2016, 04:34:46 AM
I am spending them on trading sites and  for mobile top ups that are the only places at a moment where I can spend them and I also believe in saving them for future so that I can make good money from it.
yes also use it in trading, but i cannot use bitcoin in our local market, because we do no have the facilities to use bitcoin in our local area, but still i am hopeful that a tie will come when we will also be able to use bitcoin .

Its just a matter of time and bitcoin is at developing stage and in next year or two we will find many places where we would be able to spend our coins directly for making purchases.

Im hoping for this  thing too that we could able  to  spend our bitcoins directly without the need of exchanging  it to fiat. It would really takes time to happen this  such thing  and  it would need  fast adoption to a certain country  in able  to be  available on your country. Lets wait for the  future  of bitcoin.
I think it will not happen easy, consider the total users of bitcoin and since the government will not legalized bitcoin we cannot attract people to used bitcoin and leave paper money, and besides not all people are computer literate so that is the big hindrance to our prediction.
10929  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 06, 2016, 04:06:23 AM
people who want to short time and ready to take any risk, he will choose gambling, i have friend who get profit 1bitcoin in 1roll but the risk is very high and i not recomending you to use this way.

for secure way to get rich we need action, act what we think then we will get problem and use the problem as our motivation to growing.
I think only 1 out of 100 peoples may become rich like this and it will also not last long and other will only become poor rather than rich by gambling so certainly i am not going to recommend gambling,if you wish to become rich.
I want to ask you? What do you only want to rely on your luck just to get rich? lol I think if you really want to be rich then do a sure thing by working and collecting money from the income you get from your job if you are consistent you may become rich

The only chance for us to be rich is only when we are lucky, we should rely on luck otherwise we will lose than we win. But do not focus on gambling because your chances of getting rich is very low, better invest in a more legitimate business or invest in bitcoin itself.

Well that is not even the good way to become rich. Depending on your luck is not good enough for you to become rich and so for gambling.

If you have the goal to become rich you are going to start working today and not just work, but you are going to put your full efforts with it so that you can achieve your goal.

And in bitcoin, if you are going to hold a lot of bitcoins today and waiting for the price increase you are going to become rich with it.
I'll admit seeing people gamblr more than 1 Btc. I once played in the gambling site and you can see the bets of the high rollers and I often see they lose 1-10 BTC but sometimes they win, I can't imagine losing 10 btc in one play even a 1 Btc lost will be tough on me I hope I don't get to experience it.
Maybe they are rich already so they can afford to bet that big amount, I see some bettors in a certain sports book betting like 10 BTC, and I was like, I am so shock because I could already build a house with that amount of money and they just gamble for one game.
10930  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 06, 2016, 04:00:28 AM
I did not put a lot of money into the bitcoin and I'm also not willing to do this because its stays a risky investment and I do not want to lose too much money on it.
I think that its not bad to only but small amounts in it.
Only fool will put all their money in bitcoins, we cannot ensure that the future of bitcoin will be successful and we are trusting our entire money with bitcoin, we still have a future and we will have a family and when that happens, it is like we are risking the life of our children, I cannot gamble to do that.
10931  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: October 06, 2016, 03:56:49 AM
Bitcoins is alot better since it can't be ubused like the us dollar.

Well that's right. however, bitcoin is not as widely used as the dollar, which has been the main currency we've been using ever since. For those who are already aware of bitcoin and its benefits, of course we'll say bitcoin is better. Though i think it's gaining popularity more and more now and thing are looking good in the future
If we talk about the future, both in dollars and in bitcoin better chance at life. The fact that the dollar is an international currency and it keeps the world economy.

Yes dollars is supreme currency in the whole world and so bitcoin is just going to depend on it either. But I hope in the future that bitcoin is going to be considered by the government of the United States of America. And it is going to be a good way to have transactions because of its convenience and very fast transactions.
When big countries will collapse bitcoin will also be affected, and if we see that dollars will collapse its value for sure that would have a big effect to the price of bitcoin, we might see another big meltdown and maybe this time bitcoin will not recover anymore.
10932  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: October 05, 2016, 08:15:03 AM
perhaps for the moment there is no good investment as it used hashocean. average hyip in less than one month has been a scam. if I think you better make bitcoin trading / better kept. I've never experienced from hyip scam exposed many times and I give up investment
When it comes to investment you should always select on the legitimate one, do not get fooled with the HYIP as they are just here to scam us. It is accepted to be fooled once so we nee to learn from it and just do things that can give us a chance to earn although slowly but steady.
10933  Economy / Economics / Re: Earning a living from cyptocurrency options trading on: October 05, 2016, 08:01:11 AM
Does Algoswan still update this thread? He said that he will post his live trades. I think it would be interesting to watch and learn from what he does and the moves he makes with Bitcoin and Ethereum. I am still a newbie in trading and I would like to know how much in average does he earn from trading. Also if my starting capital is 10 BTC how much would I expect to earn each month learning his style?
I've heard of some people that are able to make $1000 on some larger market movements with some alts that they pump or just catch a nice movement on, however a lot of those numbers can be debated and the one-day moves are quite rare and it isn't easy to see one of them on the horizon until they happen, and even by then it is typically too late. As for having 10 BTC as a starting capital, you would be looking at somewhere around the same ballpark, however being new to trading you should just do small trades at first and learn how everything works before you start to get heavily invested in anything.

As for how good you'd do following Algoswan's technique, I have no idea because I don't know what he does.
With that amount of earning you need to have a bigger amount of capital to start  in trading, that is the direction I am planning to go to earn a living in trading. Although it is hard to achieve but I am learning it now, as I start with a small amount of money.
10934  Economy / Economics / Re: We must build a new exchange rate system on: October 05, 2016, 07:34:10 AM
OP idea is so rare, I really do not want to overthink so much of it as we already have our exchanges now and I am contented with the exchange rate system they are using and they have the standard one, maybe we should just follow it because that is the normal and right thing to do.
10935  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Price Update for October 3, 2016 on: October 05, 2016, 07:29:27 AM
Nice update dude, but my wish and concern before this year will earn that the price will reach again at $700.

That would be a good Christmas gift for everyone of us here, price will not fall back to $500 before the year end.
10936  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: October 05, 2016, 07:25:33 AM
Probably still very small, even 5% is unlikely.. it's only a bit more than 3 years away..

We are talking about the population of Earth and there are I guess 7.4 billion people already living today and on 2020 I guess it is not even going to reach 5% because 5% of 7.4 billion would probably closely to 370 million people. I think 3 years is not enough to reach that number of users of bitcoin on that year. I think still that would be close to 1%.
That's an aggressive prediction and i would say we are not that big, we are less than 1% of the world total population so if we are predicting for the total users for the year 2010 maybe at least 1% is a conservative projection.
10937  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: October 05, 2016, 07:18:10 AM
I mostly buy online with Bitcoin, use it for gaming to buy in game currency and from time to time to buy drink at one coffee shop near my place.

That's great to hear that you can buy coffee with your bitcoins and I really wish that I could spend it on a coffee or a glass of beer so that I can go cashless every time when I want to spend my bitcoins.
It will happen in the future dude, we just have to be more patient. If you will live in a well developed countries then I am pretty sure you can experience the best benefits of spending online with your bitcoin, but if you are living in a country where bitcoin is not that popular maybe we should just wait for the right time.
you can still exchange it to your local currency and let the circulation continue so you are still spending it. and that also helping bitcoin
to continue to progress i know in due time will be able to use btc in all our needs.

Agree,even you cant  spend  the actual bitcoin on merchants  but still you are spending  it when you intend to  exchange it into fiat and  buy the  things you need which is considered already spending and you are right  it do really helps the bitcoin ecosystem to grow even more.
You are still active because once you cash out in fiat you will spend for your needs and wants and even by spending it in online betting that means you are also an active spender of your bitcoins. Those who are not active are only the investors who are doing a long term investment.
10938  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: October 05, 2016, 06:17:33 AM
Yes, i would accept it as salary since i can save the amount which is charged to convert fiat to bitcoins and i can send my income to my home from abroad easily
That reason is very acceptable, bitcoin is really good and you will allow it as your salary if you normally do online transaction, with remittance to our love ones abroad we can benefit with bitcoin as the transaction fee is very cheap and fast at the same time.
10939  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: October 05, 2016, 06:11:59 AM
Make them experience bitcoin first hand. Some girls are impatient when it comes to techie stuff so better not start with that part right away. Besides, bitcoin isn't that complicated and with today's technology, it is only a matter of time before everyone gets the hang of doing their transactions digitally.

I agree with it, this is the most efficient way to motivate women to use bitcoin and the easiest way of it is make her claim to some faucets.

Just to make her feel earning through it and maybe you can just give her some free bitcoins so whenever she is going to convert and withdraw.

She will appreciate bitcoins that she is able to get real money.
If she really love you she will do things that make you happy and you can test your girls friend love for you if she will also be interested in your interest. I called bitcoin as an interest because I love it and I love being in the community.
10940  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: October 05, 2016, 06:02:24 AM
If  do have much  money to invest  on ,  i would  invest to stocks, gold  i would  build  my own  mall , i would  build  shipping lines and   realty then for sure these  investment  would  make  me  more even richer as long  these investments would  accept bitcoin.
You have a very big ambition my friend, I think you should work hard to achieve that. The more we dream the more we should be working hard in order to reach our dreams and for sure the journey towards success is not easy so you should be strong to face challenges along the way.
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