Since no mods replied to this I propose to apply this rule:

I will leave negative trust to newbies (or repeating older members) who post a link to BTCJam or other external lending pages without offering a valid collateral. I will do so regardless of they asking the loan here directly or on an external page and posting the link here. For example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1118557.msg11855659#msg11855659

I encourage others to do the same or post here and let me know if you disagree.

You can edit the first post and include [CLOSED] at the beginning of the name and then use the bottom-left link to lock it.

If you post in this forum you must follow this forum's rules, even if you link to an external site. So you need to offer valid collateral.
If you don't have valid collateral to offer then lock your threads (including your duplicate one) and move them to Archival, otherwise you will get negative trust in a few minutes.

Verified, the address was posted here.
As agreed I will fund this loan as soon as you send the credentials (encrypted here) from a new account created by you.

Don't send the credentials yet please. I can't find an older post I found before. What's the oldest post you published that address on?

I'm surprised you decide to exchange negative trust with Vortex20000 and subSTRATA after all this trouble (retaliation negative feedback is quite common). But again it's a free world.

I will consider the "deal" failed in a few minutes and add a negative if you don't refund. subSTRATA said he'd change to past tense and he did. I said I'd remove it and I did.

Just to make it easier I will remove it if you refund and stop selling the ebook completely. If you use another account to keep selling then I'll make if negative on both accounts.

I will not. I added a neutral feedback because you sell black hat/illegal methods, not because of this specific incident. However if you refund I won't make it negative which I'm currently considering.

RoughLyfe's TOS is a joke, you can't just write whatever you want as TOS:
"This TOS can change at anytime": You need to have versions or some track so it's know which version of your TOS was current when the purchase was made. If you update your TOS of course previous customers won't automatically be subjected to it.
"...under conditions I see fit": You need to establish the conditions you see fit, otherwise this phrase doesn't apply. You can't just make up what you see fit later depending on your own convenience.
"I can deny any refunds/purchase": Of course you can deny to sell your ebook to anyone, but you can't "deny any refund" after the purchase was made, it just doesn't work like that. You need to clearly establish the conditions that prevents the refund from happening.

Because of the way RoughLyfe's thread suggest money can be easily obtained it's quite clear it's nothing legal and honest. I'm not sure whether it being "black hat" is a condition for a refund. I'm pretty sure Reynaldo should have guessed it was so before buying, but that's arguable.

However because of the fact RoughLyfe is selling a not-so-legal method (to say the least) and because of the absurd TOS he tries to impose I really think nobody should deal with him, he absolutely doesn't seem trustworthy at all. Besides using his method would imply being dishonest.

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I have sent 0.14144272BTC as a loan to bassguitarman. TX: bad020f9e99769cad1b3db0515bbd6452efd430b83974f01a5c858e3e951a8c7
Please repay 0.1768BTC to my address 16QWDGAVvwqGhe2nCQZuWvZwSduPZPYdZ9 by 2015-07-17
Thanks,
EcuaMobi
2015-07-10
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Verified. I'm funding this loan. Please confirm I should send 0.14144272 to the same address 17t9jJkx1XoVXXVR5kBkF34Dv14rQkzFHH.

The first code:

has much more content, this to be exact:
89 chars

While the second contains just the address, for example using the same address:

34 chars

As a result the first code is of a higher version so it can hold more information.

Did Dr.Famous confirm your allegations that you repaid the amount you scammed him? I can't find it and he hasn't removed his negative feedback from your profile.
IMO even if you did you deserve to be muted because you did scam and repaid (if you really did) just to get unmuted. You deserve to be muted there and a (yet another) negative feedback here.
Also the fact the title of your thread is so misleading doesn't help at all.

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Edit: I realized I just fed the troll. Never mind, just ignore this thread.

I see the message signed by OP was:
And he signed it with the address 1YWDYeBMutvEqJPu9W9pFoN2L7fCcf5s7 which he posted here.
Here's the verified message.

So I have removed the negative feedback I had left in his profile, sorry for the misunderstanding. Still it would be better if OP signs this message instead:
with this address: 1PHFwiKjWQV1LT9VVn1S6RLRugxNdeQyg

Update: OP has PM'd me this signed message:


Verified, the address was posted here.

The signature was verified (by removing some spacing).
I've left a negative trust on the account until you confirm you recovered it or the current owner proves he actually bought it.

You should include at lest a temporary email address you control to make the recovery process easier.

First post here and clear everything out before trying to make more deals.

zain1993 what BTC address did you give morocco.man to make the payment? What exact BTC amount was agreed? With this information we can check the blockchain and know for sure whether the payment was made. Please post the quoted PM or the screenshot of the message where you sent that address.

As always a warning is required for both parties:

• OP, are you aware of the high risk that means taking PayPal? It can be charged back up to 6 months later. You should deal only with very trusted members if at all.
• Anyone considering dealing with OP, do not deal without escrow. Even if using a payment method which can be charged back do not ever send first under any circumstances. OP could give excuses to earn time until he withdraws from his PayPal account without sending you the coins.

OP you should confirm you're willing to use a trusted member of this forum as escrow. That means you will send the coins to him before receiving any payment.

I've left negative trust on Holzbein's account and his alts. That should help a little. Other than that just ignore it as everybody said. People will realize that's just fake feedback.

Seriously? Not even SSL to enter the password when registering? A brand new account created just to post this link? The same address for every coin to "vote" inclusion?

Sure you just care about receiving some free coins.

Try harder the next time.