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1101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is the money manager? is it a casino or game provider? on: January 11, 2024, 12:10:19 PM
The gaming providers should be on a different deal with the casino. It's like having some necessities in the casino. Gaming providers are the OS of the casino. Without it a casino won't run effectively to provide the best for customers, hence the casino runs the business, controls finance, then pay a price for each gaming provider on the casino. It's more like a fixed price, and have duration. Such deals should be annually. The gaming providers work for the casino, and the administrator of the casino pays them for their services. The owner of the casino takes care of this before setting up a casino. That's why setting up one is quite very expenses due to the charges and needed properties before one is eligible to get a gaming provider to his casino. Which money is also need to achieve it. Since the owner of the casino started his business with money earned outside the casino, the gaming provider has no business with the amount of money the casino earns. Their business with the casino is dependent on the casino, whether to or not renew.
1102  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who does gambling addiction affect the most? on: January 11, 2024, 12:01:11 PM
So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?
When any member of a family becomes addicted, the gambling effect affects the entire family. And if that gambler runs the family, the effect will be even more deadly. A gambler who is addicted will never have enough money. When he will not be able to necessary expenses for the family, disaster will fall in the family. And if a father gambles during his retirement, I think there will be no great harm for him, but his health problems may increase as a result of excessive gambling. In this case the other members of the family must be well informed about his addiction and he can be brought under control. Gambling is fun for a short period of time, but gambling can become addictive in the long run.

A father that gambles will need to control his actions and stabilize the need to gamble at all times. The requirements for a gambler differs and each player have his goals and needs that led him into gambling. Those requirements of his, determines his actions and decision while gambling. It's not appropriate to think that every father that gambles would have a bad family to groom, thereby resulting to a disaster. But anyone, a father or child who ends up getting addicted in gambling will need the help of his family to be safe. Hence, both parties will suffer it, but the pain is on those who wish to share in the agony of their beloved father or child. It's not mandatory that the family will feel the pain, but the gambler who is suffering from the pain, would have a bigger trouble to solve than those helping him.
1103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Woes of gambling on: January 11, 2024, 11:48:34 AM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's about probability and house edge, it's not all gamblers have to lose in casinos it's just that the probability for a gambler to win is low and the house makes a profit because of the house edge, there's always gamblers winning in gambling it's just when it comes to numbers the casino has an edge for every $100 the house takes $70 and the gamblers have to share the remaining pot.
The casino cannot exist for a long time without them having winners, gamblers will doubt that they are cheating their players.

Casinos are providing a service people need or want. Gamblers are indirectly paying for the casino businesses to prosper, and if the house doesn't take those profits, they wouldn't be able to run the business appropriately. Hence, gamblers are not required to have in mind the winnings, as it's just a method of keeping gamblers in the game. So, they won't need to stress themselves out of playing casino games. Winning it self helps the gambler to continue playing, if they was no winning a gambler will not engage in gambling anymore. Psychologically, we don't participate for a long time in something that doesn't give us some rewards in exchange for our time and dedication. Stating the casinos are only focused on taking the money is not a lie. Players should also maintain similar energy in accepting the fun and thrills.
1104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers trickily claims they wins the bet while they never did. on: January 11, 2024, 11:41:18 AM
Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Some falsefully speculates that they won just because they want to pave an ease to those who has been advising them to quit or limits gambling simply because the gambler has been unlucky to win instead he keep betting over and over without a good bankroll management in their gambling carriers.
They basically do this because they feels disturbed and inconveniences of the people's opinions and advices towards the gamblers unprofitable gambling experiences

Engaging in a situation like this only leaves the gambler's back to the wall. Endangering his lifestyle in the real world, his aim is to please his friends. Sometimes the gamblers gets addicted to his lies and can't make it out of deceits. Therefore, it's better not to start it in the first place. Than engaging in something you won't be able to finish. In the scenario whereby the gambler is addicted and covers it up to prove his points of being a responsible gambler to his peers or family, he only adds more difficulty to his gambling problem. And endeavors to clean up his bad traces and losses facing him each day. It's always a hard situation for people to leave a life which is not theirs to please the hearts of men. The repercussion affects the gambler deeper than it would have if he didn't follow such lane. He'll be addicted and at same time indebted. As he'll run short of money pleasing people or his family.
1105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 11, 2024, 11:19:52 AM

I've noticed that it's rare not to have in a family a person who acts in a strange manner. It could be as a result of childhood upbringing. Which may have affected the person psychologically. Home training changes people differently. Grown ups hardly find it difficult to change, once the person gets addicted it takes lots of effort to cure their problem gambling. Even after the problem has been solved the gambler would find himself undergoing similar gambling symptoms for a while until he's completely in control of his actions. Advising them helps, but not everyone loves to take one, especially when they didn't ask for it. As families we only need to have to closely observe the person and endeavor he's not gambling all the time. Explaining to them that gambling once a day is achievable can help the gambler would decide to try it out some day. Then he'd follow the routine of gambling once a day for a long time till it's now a part of him.

Yes, regarding the nature and behavior, it is true as you said that usually such behavior starts from the parents' mistakes in educating their children when they were young, simply put, if their parents educate them harshly or mean to treat them harshly since childhood, then usually when they grow up they have traits and behaviors not much different from what their parents taught them, But for this problem I really can't make it a benchmark for someone to then enter addiction when they grow up, because I think what makes more sense is the wrong environmental factors that can really make someone involved in gambling until they enter the addiction phase or other negative things.

The environment has a very big influence on a person's behavior and changes in any case, it can lead to positive or negative things and usually the environment when they are older is where all these situations and scenarios can start, on the other hand basically it is not an easy thing to get out of gambling or even the addiction zone, because there are so many temptations that are difficult to miss by them and as you said that although there are many suggestions that are so good but not everyone can accept them into consideration. Therefore, the conclusion is that the action to cure gambling addiction must come out of themselves, or that means it cannot be forced and will really be successful or likely if there is basically a firm intention and sincerity from someone who is already addicted to recover.

It cannot be forced out of them, but a person who notices his friend or relation behavior changed for the worse, can try different techniques to cure the person. The major issue is not being able to finding out of his addiction. Once that's unveiled the relative would be able to look into the trouble. When the gambler has decided to hide his addiction, healing will not be achieved, because you can't threat what you don't know about. Those who find it hard to change a person even after finding out that the person is into gambling addiction, hardly engage in conversations with the addict. The brain easily changes towards what a person thinks. As you said about the child's environment, he thinks like his environment. Hence, if the people around him discuss about gambling or practice it the child will someday begin to gamble. Same applies to the relevance of having conversation on other utilities that may interest the addict, given time he'll begin to think about the activity until his full concentration on gambling begins to reduce.
1106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 11, 2024, 11:06:45 AM

Borrowing to gamble doesn't worth, the stress that walks with borrowing money isn't safe for gambling. Being in debt upsets the brain, especially for a person who doesn't know how to clear his debts. Those who have the money and borrows, may not be bothered like a person that doesn't have such money. The gambler that borrows to gamble in most occurrences ends up losing out all the money. It's preferable to borrow money when handling a project, not just relying on the loan alone, the person needs a back up. If things doesn't sit right, he'd used the backed up money to balance the debt. Op was only carried away by the fantasies of winning big. How he'd spend the money and still have some left for paying back his debt. Gambling with our money is better and rests the mind of the gambler to take the right predictions. Instead of being in a hurry in predicting games.

True, and it will actually make the possibility of risk even greater, plus on the other hand the actual fact is that the percentage of wins is much smaller than losses, and with that I think it's really not recommended if you borrow money just to gamble, don't go too far because after all gambling is nothing more than a game of chance, if there is certainty and guarantee to win then it's natural for you to do something like that but if the fact is that everything is still gray then I think it's really a very silly approach to gambling, On the other hand it is not uncommon to see addicted gamblers who end up with a lot of downturns, not only losing most of their assets but they also hold a lot of debt and what happens is the possibility of depression or even going crazy because they are unable to withstand all the pressure due to the situation, so the point is I hope you can fix the wrong mindset and perspective on gambling before it's too late and regret it.

Being in debt is stressful, people who owe money and are having a hassle paying back the debt, find it hard to concentrate in their endeavors. Gamblers, out of the stress and anxiety, would want to recover the lost money, hence they'll be able to payback. But due to the expenses in a man's daily activities, when the player wins, he'll find it hard to pay his debt. As he may have accumulated series of debts from different people and organizations. Gambling with loan is wrong. One needs to be sure of his moves before taking loan. Despite that it's not advisable to rely on loan in any activity we want to venture into. The addicted players may have gotten addicted to taking loan such that they will rarely gamble using their own money. The finances used for gambling now revolves around borrowed money.
1107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: January 10, 2024, 11:11:42 PM
It depends on what you told your partner when you guys started the relationship,it is always very good to be very open in any relationship,hiding somethings from your partner or lieing to them will always cause fight or problem later in the relationship.If you are very open to them,telling them your addictions,things you love to do,it won't result to any problem,but keeping your gambling life secrete at the start of your relationship will make them feel bad when they later find out you are an addict to gambling.
But I believe if your partner will be angry,it depends on your position in the relationship,if you are the lead,she won't threaten leaving you,but if she's controlling everything you do,then there is every tendency that your gambling life will cause problem.

You should really be open to each other from the very beginning, because that's where trust can be built. It would be better for the both of you to know each activities that you participate in, so that at the end of the day, we can figure out a way to balance the time in the relationship and other activities.
it's hard if you get to the point of getting married, only then will you know what each other's vices are, and besides, it's normal for you to be open with your partner even if you're in the dating stage, so that we can know if they are really the one. take note, divorce and annulment is not a joke, so choose and know your partner well.



Couples didn't practice the meaning of courtship or dating, which relies on understanding one another, asking questions or opening secrets. But due to the analysis of human behavior, one may not be able to discuss about every habit, experience or behavior they've got. Most times that person wouldn't have a reason to explain those, since they've loved one another unconditionally. But marriage proves them wrong, and the people whom the society thought they were deeply in love, begin to quarrel over an issue, that were overlooked while they were dating. Some people may accept the man gambles while dating, then once married they begin to disturb the man to stop. Because the wife's goal would be providing the best training for the younger ones.
1108  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: January 10, 2024, 10:58:04 PM
Gambling every day is not a bad strategy, it depends on the behaviors of the gamblers who participate in such a daily activity. If he's concerned about his safety he wouldn't make mistakes despite gambling each day. Not everyone would be able to engage on this without getting close to chasing loss. Gamblers who are able control themselves would enjoy such method. Those who can't is allowed to check other features or ideas that'll work. Hence, it's not a good move to try a strategy we ain't strong enough to control emotionally. It begins to turn a daily obligation to gamble each day. They could be enjoying the journey and laugh over the thrills and excitements. When the funds don't correspond to the amount spent and winnings the players gets worried about his long expenses. Those who can handle the thrills should try the strategy, it could be profitable.
1109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: January 10, 2024, 10:40:56 PM
Agree When a person becomes addicted to gambling, no matter how much he profits or how much he loses, he cannot stop gambling. So in this case, he will not be able to keep his profit, on the other hand, if he loses, he will not hesitate to gamble by borrowing money. And they are called successful gamblers who can make a lot of profit from gambling and enjoy the money of that profit. They can stop gambling in time and control themselves so successful gamblers can never become addicted to gambling.
That's true I would like to also agree with you on this point that winning a big jackpot shouldn't be called a successful gambler because there are many addicted gambler who make million dollars at once and also lose those million at once. So successful gambler those gambler who can control their emotions and greediness when doing gambling.

A successful gambler has experienced gambling techniques and figured methods that works gambling not centered in any way on winning money alone. Responsible gamblers doesn't bother about the money, they only realized the effectiveness of self control in gambling. When a gambler is capable of mastering self control he'll be closely in touch with being a successful gambler. On the view of non gambler, a gambler who spends most of his time gambling is addicted. In the gambling industry few amongst gambler would think like the non gambler, he's seen that addiction is not close to how long the gambler bets each day. Not all the gamblers are close to behaving like addicts who can't hold on their decision, and wagers all his money on a single bet. Such people are addicted.
1110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any fun in losing while gambling on: January 10, 2024, 12:06:29 AM
Gambling is always fun if you have the money to lose and if you disregard the money while playing.   If you hold the money as number one I dont see how it can be fun if we are realistic and introduce the reality you cannot always win then of course you are losing money, its still fun if you arent reliant on that money.   I never play serious money due to that only winnings and money that is spare then its always a fun game imo Smiley

With a cold-headed, realistic and logical approach and having money as a priority, the vast majority of games should be avoided. The only ones that could make sense are either skill games, such as poker, or games without fixed mathematical edge (where a judgment is required) i.e. sports betting.

But it's not a secret that most gamblers do not have such approach and there are plenty of other factors at play, including hopes of becoming a millionaire overnight, with a good example being lotto games. Even know the vast majority of people would be losing a vast majority of the time, they still find it enjoyable because it buys them a hope of turning their lives around with no effort. That feeling alone is worth a lot to many.

Gambling with few amount of money wouldn't affect the happiness of a gambler. It's more about the way the player envisions his predictions. Gamblers who feel bad about their losses weren't prepared enough to gamble responsibly. The goal of gambling is for the gambler to enjoy his time and money spent. But most players now focus on the reward as the primary aim. Which has caused problem gambling for gamblers. Preserving our bank roll for another day, would help us to maintain a good gambling habit. There wouldn't be any fun in losing all the money a player has, in gambling. Any player who claims he's happy losing his savings in gambling is not saying the truth. It's all a way of deceiving himself to get more addicted to the game. Chasing their hopes or dreams of becoming a millionaire only returns void, such that the gambler who was once happy for losing his money, ends up sad and worried over his actions.
1111  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who does gambling addiction affect the most? on: January 09, 2024, 11:43:37 PM
Excessive gambling is detrimental to the life of a gambler no doubt, stories, facts and truths have proven this that they suffer a lot of pressure, tension, loses and frustration. I am also concerned about the impact of gambling on the lives of those dependent on the gambler like his immediate family(wife, children, parents and siblings). I have heard stories of children whose early lives were messed up due to the bad habits of gambling addiction of their fathers. A very recent one is one account in this forum which created a topic staring his hatred for gambling and backing his claim with same ugly story of being a product of a home where the father is a gambling addict. He stressed that it ruined his father and affected him disastrously. I know how painful and frustrating it is when your foundation its poor, and the negative effect is massive.

So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most?

( So I want to ask, between the gambling addict and his immediate family, who does the addiction affect the most? )

I can see that the gambler addict will be more affected than his family, but of course it will also affect his family. I just believe that the gambler is more affected by this because maybe because of his addiction to gambling, his family can leave him, there are many situations like this, many people break up and destroy relationships because of addiction to gambling, apart from the difficulty for him to stop his addiction to gambling left behind He is still with his family or his loved ones, anyone in that situation will have a hard time.

The gambler is more affected by addiction because of the trouble he's causing to himself and the family. It's known that the gambler doesn't feel his pain. But on the long run he'd begin to understand the pain he's caused his families. Those memories would stay on his brain for quite a long time, and may cause the gambler to feel bad of himself. But while he's still under addiction, the family feels the pain more than the gambler. Because the gambler has no record of what is his problems. He doesn't feel it, the addiction, only his immediate family would undergo the stress of trying to change him. Putting him to therapy would eat up lots of family wealth. However everyone in the family takes a fair share of the memory it creates in them. So, I'd say that both parties suffers it, especially when the gambler is not in his right senses and can be able to control himself.
1112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Woes of gambling on: January 09, 2024, 11:09:42 PM
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature
If gambling should be a fraud as you call it to be, almost all country's governments would have placed a ban on it, telling their citizens to stay clear of it because of the fraud they find about it. But here we are, no countries have called out gambling to be a fraud. What we normally see is the instructions of gamblers to gamble responsibly and they should be above 18 years old before they start gambling.

For you to come up with this outrageous claim that gambling is fraud sounds funny because nobody has thought or experienced it to be that way because everyone who wins in it, is paid according to their winnings.

Gambling is not what Op thinks it is, but at some point one would wonder what gambling is actually about, due to the way people get lost in the process. Imagine players losing out their money and still are interested in throwing more money into the game. As gamblers we need to know or understand that our choices is at stake. The money we stake and the time spent gambling is of the player's decision. One way, we feel sad about the actions of addicted gamblers in our family and neighborhood. But since it's self inflicted, most people wouldn't care about the gambler's problem. Hence it gets to a point where the addicted person begins to feel left behind, and that nobody cares to save him from his troubles. Such people may begin to think of the way Op sees gambling, because it'll look to them that gambling has taken almost everything away from them, which is not a good idea.
1113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: January 09, 2024, 08:44:22 PM
Gambling companies show you various attractive offers to promote themselves and it is natural that insurers will promote a company in exchange for money, but because you see their promotion and jump into gambling without thinking, it is your failure.  And that's why you can't blame anyone for your loss. You could blame someone if he forced you to gamble against your will and you could blame him if you went there and gambled and lost in front of him.  But if you go there on your own and lose, you have to take full responsibility for it
Blaming people for your loss isn't right because firstly gambling is for adults and not children so it's usually assumed that every Gambler is above the recommended age by the government and the policy of the gambling company company which implies that only adults are gambling by the lay down standard.

So every decision to gamble was made by an adult and should be able to take responsibility of their actions since they are made such decisions and not to find someone to blame for their losses because I'm very sure they weren't forced into gambling or placing stakes on any of the game's except they were under duress to placing any bet then they can have some one to blame but in a situation were by they literally gambled without any form of duress then such shouldn't be blamed on anyone I don't blame my losses on any one because gambling was my personal decision.

It's weird to see that gamblers are becoming less responsible each day. Gambling is a personal decision and nobody is expected to be held responsible for another's decision. Whenever a person doesn't take the responsibility of his actions and hopes on blaming their losses on people, the gambler will encounter more losses. The gambler also is not expected to blame the ads he watched for being the reason he's lost money via gambling. I think on the journey of gambling, for each player, he needs to have in mind that, there are many instances of losses and addiction. Hence, he's meant to stay careful and enjoy the process, instead of getting sad and transferring aggression on people who has no connection to their misfortune. However, losing money can make an adult behave like a child, but it's nobody's concern, because it's not a joint venture. Gamblers participate at their own risk. And people are not forced, but can be psychologically driven to try it out, whether it'll pay them some funds.
1114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 09, 2024, 08:26:56 PM
and therefore gamble responsibly so that your gambling will not harm those closest to you. because after all, when you live with your siblings or parents, other people will judge your behavior and will associate this with the people closest to you. if you behave well, maybe other people will judge that your family are good people. but when you don't behave well, especially being an aggressive and irresponsible gambling addict, other people will not only judge you badly but also your siblings and parents who don't give advice or take action to prevent you from becoming an addict and that will lead to shame on them. and therefore gamble responsibly so that your actions will not harm those closest to you.

In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you'll want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're getting yourself into. Starting from not having responsibility, the problem will spread to everything, especially one of our closest members, for example, it is not uncommon to find gamblers who like to borrow money from one of their relatives who eventually cause problems because of the inability to pay debts due to excessive gambling and even though they have money but of course the first thing they think about is to fund their gambling and not to pay debts.

Not only that, the scenario can also be like what you said where the point of view of the surrounding community will be bad as a result of the behavior of an addicted gambler who usually ranks like a madman and agreif, acting out of control and even very likely to commit crimes such as stealing etc., which of course can embarrass their extended family in the eyes of the surrounding people. I think there should be something that one of his siblings should do to at least advise him not to overdo the gambling, although the possibility is small but it doesn't matter as long as it is consistent I think it can make them change a little.

I've noticed that it's rare not to have in a family a person who acts in a strange manner. It could be as a result of childhood upbringing. Which may have affected the person psychologically. Home training changes people differently. Grown ups hardly find it difficult to change, once the person gets addicted it takes lots of effort to cure their problem gambling. Even after the problem has been solved the gambler would find himself undergoing similar gambling symptoms for a while until he's completely in control of his actions. Advising them helps, but not everyone loves to take one, especially when they didn't ask for it. As families we only need to have to closely observe the person and endeavor he's not gambling all the time. Explaining to them that gambling once a day is achievable can help the gambler would decide to try it out some day. Then he'd follow the routine of gambling once a day for a long time till it's now a part of him.
1115  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: January 09, 2024, 07:58:22 PM
Gambling everyday will just make you an addict to it. There’s no justification that it won’t make you addicted to it. It doesn’t matter if you gamble everyday and win or you gamble everyday and lose, it will make you an addict and if you can’t control yourself it will even make you to lose important money that is supposed to have been used for something more valuable to you. Your friends claim might work out for him but it will make him an addict unless he can control himself and if you want to follow his ways you might not be able to control your emotions to it and you could become addicted to it and can make your life miserable . It is better you don’t follow his ways and have your own ways of approach on how to gamble.

What people say about gambling is their opinion and shouldn't be considered as something that'll work. Most times it's speculation and these gamblers who win after playing for a long time forget that they've been losing in the process. A gambler must win. It's not a game where a player won't gain some money after a while of trying. Not gambling for few days doesn't mean the gambler will not win. Every gambler's goal differs, people are free to voice their responses, depending on the perspective they've got for gambling. The strategy is that of his friend, and may work out for him. However, if the gambler doesn't follow due procedures he could be heading to being addicted. You are right, Op can devise his personal strategy, if he feels gambling once a while could fetch him more wins, then it's not a bad decision. Without our differences in ideas and opinion, gamblers would be making same mistakes. So, diversifying our strategies helps gamblers to get unique results. Some win and others lose.
1116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale betting system on: January 08, 2024, 03:05:38 PM
Martingale method may work for few people that are lucky enough to recover the losses but for most people it will never work. Rather it will just going to make the losses become even more bigger. I will never ever recommend this to some for people who are worried about the losses they have made when they are planning to chase for it and try to take it back. I simply suggest to cool down call it a day and get to gambling on the other day or on the next day. It is hard to see people getting broke because of this common mistake.

Martingale strategy isn't a preferable method of raising our chances of winning in gambling. Those who practice this method end up chasing losses and it's not advisable as you said. The need to double or increase the amount of money we wager, easily finishes the player's bank roll. Unless a player is ready to lose a significant amount of money before winning, he shouldn't use the martingale strategy. Winning is not certain in gambling, players are expected to reduce the amount of money they spend while gambling, instead of increasing it. We understand that, at some point the gambler could win, but it doesn't worth the risk, as the money may not be equated to the lost money. High rollers may try this method and gain a better profit, but a low roller who does same thing could regret his decision. Hence, it's better to use the Martingale strategy on some sure investments like purchasing shares in a prominent company, than using it to gamble hoping on a big win.
1117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: January 08, 2024, 02:56:28 PM
I agree with what you said that it is very easy for someone to be able to gamble their money on a casino platform but the most difficult thing is knowing when to stop. Because the bad habit of most gamblers is that they risk more money when they have earned more than their initial capital. They think that by gambling more money, it will give them the opportunity to win more money and make them rich, even though what happens is the opposite, where they can lose more money and in the end they will be stressed about it. Knowing when to stop is one of the keys to being a responsible gambler and all gamblers should know this.
The best way for those who have the habit of not being able to stop playing when they win is to withdraw some of the winnings and continue with the rest. The portion may be such as 80:20, or 50:50 of the total balance won at that time. So, there has been a withdrawal of more money than the initial deposit he got. However, make sure that the money that has been withdrawn is not used for playing again. LOL

I have my own rule when it comes to this.I won some days ago,no longer than this last Friday a big amount.I used that 80 to 20 withdraw rule and I invested that amount somewhere where I get additional recurring benefit as I buy a huge amount of cheap cryptos which I stake them to get this passive income through the year and the golden rule is to never get that money to gamble it again.That is the best one can do after winning.

Taking some profits from our wins is the right strategy as gamblers, gambling all of it wouldn't help us on the long run. The only problem I face in gambling is that most times the money kept for gambling would run out, hence I'd need to take out money from a different source to finance gambling. So, I prefer keeping the wins aside and gamble them gradually. Whatever comes from gambling should be added to the bank roll, then manage it such that I'd not run out of funds anymore. It's mainly about the control and management. That doesn't stop the gambler from quitting his gambling session, if he's questioning his ability to withstand his obsessions after a win. Your strategy, Swogerino, depends on how much you won and the amount of money that makes up the 20% you set aside for gambling. If it'll be enough to take you on a long gambling period till your next win, then it's a good strategy.
1118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Features of the worldview of a gambler on: January 08, 2024, 02:36:14 PM
Optimism is a dual thing. On the one hand, as has already been correctly noted, optimism can protect you from harsh reality. On the other hand, if it is pathological, it can cause you to continue to believe in illusions and go on a long losing streak, which is only briefly interrupted by winnings and does not affect the overall statistics. Such optimism sucks you deeper into debt.
  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?
  Maybe naivety? Lack of analytical thinking? Not working hard enough?

Isn't it as a result of a psychological problem?  addicts hardly notice they're addicted, but when they do, sharing it with people is the last thing on their mind. I'd say that what could have caused pathological optimism in gambling addicts is the reaction of people around them, when they're made aware of the player's addiction. Some would blame the gambler, which could add insult into the injury. Other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler is that he'd want to solve his problem gambling himself. Most addicts believe since the problem is self inflicted they can resolve it without the help of anybody. The process of trying to heal on their own, then adds more years or months to the addiction which then gets more severe until it can't be hidden anymore. It's common amongst addicts to behave this way. Pathological optimism is a stage of gambling addiction where the gambler is now aware of his problem. In the initial stage the gambler wouldn't know he's addicted. A gambler that lacks critical thinking and money management can get addicted.
1119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: January 08, 2024, 02:20:15 PM
Since I've seen the unexpected, I think it's wise to know what you're getting into. Not even reputable sites are what they seem. I consider knowledge self-care, especially for money. Like putting on a seatbelt, it's simple but vital. Casual gaming makes it tempting to ignore fine print. Had been there! Even a casual game can have consequences if we don't know the rules. Not paranoia, but clever play. Understanding the terminologies is like knowing the game's rules for serious gamers. Being safe and alert can improve your gaming experience. Some pre-reading always saves me trouble later. Doesn't peace of mind justify a few minutes of reading?

It's funny how people spend hours each day on casinos but feel lazy to read the terms and condition of the casino for just an hour or two. People claim it's boring to read those terms, but I think one can fast forward to the section that most interests them, especially the rule involving deposit and withdrawal. Gamblers have fallen victim of banned account because they failed to read the terms and condition of the casino. Staying ignorant of the rules can make a gambler dull when asked question pertaining why he's been banned from a casino. A gambler need to know the locations that's been restricted in the casino and the gaming providers he should avoid due to his country. By reading the TOS he should be aware if VPN is allowed in the casino. Bypassing the requirement to read the rules makes things difficult for the gambler to defend himself when in trouble of recovering a banned account.
1120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 08, 2024, 01:59:20 PM
Well I will always see lending money as something that is not viable, therefore to assume having a good loan to be able to play is something that I consider a little irresponsible to play, there is nothing better than doing it with our own money, that is what The best thing that can be done, I personally would never do something like that, for me lending money has to be something strictly necessary and for an emergency, something like a medical issue, an operation like that, because it is something different, something that is really worth it. It's worth doing it, but I think that to play or do something in a casino I don't see it as correct, I really don't know how to explain it, but I start from the fact that when you want to lend money you have to look for something that is actually worth it, no. For whatever reason, that's just what I think, maybe my training since I was a child was always based on good customs, because money always has to be well managed, but to give yourself pleasure and lend money is not good.

Borrowing to gamble doesn't worth, the stress that walks with borrowing money isn't safe for gambling. Being in debt upsets the brain, especially for a person who doesn't know how to clear his debts. Those who have the money and borrows, may not be bothered like a person that doesn't have such money. The gambler that borrows to gamble in most occurrences ends up losing out all the money. It's preferable to borrow money when handling a project, not just relying on the loan alone, the person needs a back up. If things doesn't sit right, he'd used the backed up money to balance the debt. Op was only carried away by the fantasies of winning big. How he'd spend the money and still have some left for paying back his debt. Gambling with our money is better and rests the mind of the gambler to take the right predictions. Instead of being in a hurry in predicting games.
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