Now that you mention it I remember you are right there, its $5 yea.     I just use my main account and trade inventory from minor accounts over to that, no big deal.

Anyone can add this account, its not restricted from having people on friends list.  They do stop you adding other people without invitation though, its because of all the spam bots.  He can play with whoever he likes, Im sure because I have a near identical account 12 months old and only having csgo as a gift was never a problem playing.  Its past rank 3, all ready to go but Ive no idea where these are sold so just putting it here   I guess I'd get more interest selling it as a global, I might be able to get higher ranks if people ask...

The identical older account is steam level 4 which can add people, just do a few badges like this one and it soon goes up - http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/998510/pillar-community

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This account has never bought a product so it cant sell anything on market.   It can trade just fine with people if they add it first just not market.  Plain CSGO at the moment nothing else and that was a gift, market only comes when you buy a game afaik.

If you cover the cost of a small purchase, I could add something and give it market access perhaps

It does not have market access, its just for playing csgo at the moment.   To get market access you'd just need to buy something, even a small indie game would do it I think.  The account was setup with a gift

New account with  12 mm wins.   Clean unused account ready to use for those that want a smurf to play with their friends at this level.

Let me know any offers by pm, if I agree I'll respond by pm and this thread.   Skins, keys or bitcoin is fine.

I also have similar steam account available, same rank 90 mm wins with silver breakout coin and bloodhound if you prefer

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Gold has an unique utility to it and composition whereas people would argue bitcoin could be duplicated in its idea and also utility worldwide which makes them very different.  I agree with the general point of them both having attributed value

Bitcoin is lower cost, more efficient I think so should thrive on quick small usage.   Gold in the main is held by large banks which issue notes against its value, most of us dont do that so its bit of a virtual asset to the majority

The middle east is backed by USA forces and there is ongoing agreement to retail oil in dollars.    They have dollars because its what they get for their main export.  Treasuries are seen as very liquid and safe storage, hence government is very keen not to upset this.  They could just switch to another asset, if you hold BTC you are basically speculating on dollar weakness and this scenario of treasuries being sold.
The ongoing QE creates a false buyer for these assets, its a buyback scheme so they are happy to hold

The ironic thing not acknowledged is if Greece exits the Euro and so effectively defaults on their debt, it would be a positive for the economy.   Bad for the lenders, bad for government which cant borrow to spend or even finance itself.
Good for the ongoing economy which for exports, for holidays would become incredibly cheap.  Every worker in the country would be earning less but also this is a stimulant to all business which must pay their wages.    We may not like being paid less but no singular view can be taken on an economy, for every loser there is some who gain. Overall a 'grexit' is positive for purely Greek business and they do have alot to offer still.   It also makes imports expensive, grexit is a negative for europe yes but I think Greece would thrive after a jolt


Greece must change and unemployment would be the most apparent problems.  Change is normal as new workers start but Greece is more stagnant which is not normal or healthy.   The schedule for their debt is decades which means entire generations shut down or they must all migrate

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Its that package, Ive also added a few other games over time which I will list later but its mainly just Xcom games

Very good game, Ive completed and now I want to sell even though its possible to install a special 'long war' free expansion which Im tempted to do but its already a big game   My main account is under id sabrett.

I'll list more details, my steamrep or whatever else needed.  Happy to deal with traders and any who wish to facilitate a sale here.
 Im open to offers and I mostly play CSGO so will take keys or skins or BTCTC of course !

What rank is the csgo account because I believe that influences the price quite alot along with skins or any other badges displayable in game.  You'd have the five year badge for example, Im interested in the market for steam accounts myself as I always setup my games on separate logins

What does a domain giveaway mean exactly, I thought the fees were annual for renewing it and you'd either want the name or not want the name.   Just wondering, believe it or not I used to work for a hosting firm but only 1st line stuff on phone

Pointlessly rude lol, kinda underlines you are likely wrong on this.   Gold is traded every high street, every town and every country of the world so far as I know.   Maybe its banned some places but the main debate would be what price can you get for the gold.
Im just saying most places have jewelary store of some kind or a watch repair and I doubt they turn away a gold sale but if they give a good price is another matter.   I guess its fair that most shops no longer recognise or are willing to judge the worth of gold coin or gold anything but someone who retails gold and many places do I think its fair they will trade gold at a push.   Its possible to spend gold by proxy on a visa card linked to its spot price that day so thats pretty modern.

BTC on the other I'd say if we are talking global is not as widespread as gold.  Its probably more accurate in price though and secure though an end user can be tricked into a loss.   I agree with the point about mobile phones allowing exchange without mains electricity and I believe this is a major factor in quite a few minor African countries; it can be some other mobile currency not btc in those cases

Gold as payment, no this shouldnt be used as its a return to the literal physical exchange but gold is used as backing for paper and electronic exchange.
   If we go back to bits of gold it means all trust has failed in world trade, which is medieval dark age type stuff and hey some want that blowing stuff up in the middle east.  Most of us dont not even the politicians so I imagine if bitcoin doesnt succeed as virtual transfer of value something else will and many think it must be related to gold but its impossible it will verify value like bitcoin does; it'll always come back to trust.   Possibly bitcoin is unique and guaranteed to succeed in its own purpose

The main deal to realise with gold is its being actively bought up as backing to paper money.  Thats its current underlying trend and forms a demand or base to its price.  Gold price has been weak recently but fundamentals for it are not bad.   Bitcoin has more questions to answer but could recover faster as its overall supply wont ramp back up like gold

There is no solid or fixed use to bitcoin unfortunately, perhaps some base industries in gambling perhaps but not sure its enough.  Where as gold has a certain cost to mine where supply declines in line with the price and increase in line with profitability, also demand varies inversely to that.    If I intend to use gold I like it cheaper and it has a couple uses I guess, not sure anyone wants or benefits from cheaper bitcoin.

In this way bitcoin will always be more volatile, its price just rises with its usage I think possibly in competetion to alternative means of transmitting value.  It might go zero if seen as unreliable in that way

Yea I was going to mention, the theory to these movement is the panic effect causes most value to occur or price inaccuracy.  So generally theres upset, the flock of sheep get startled and a sell off and thats the end to a bearish move.
At least in short term thats how the cycle goes, the wider picture is really more important as we can just keep blipping up for a while as the panic is incorrect before selling off to a lower low over some months.

On a few occasions the panic sell is quite correct like we saw in 2008 (in main markets) where value previously had been placed too high.  Eventually even good assets (performing) were written off below book value and that was the true bottom.   The problem we have here is Bitcoin is so circular in its worth, the traditional say it cannot succeed as its purely virtual and other say this is its strength.  Im still not sure which are correct to HODL or just speculate briefly - I imagine bitcoin must transform or it will be superseded so to purely hold or to stay still will be a fail

Wasnt that government discredited in its actions and what they did broke the rules of entering the euro as they never qualified.   It seems Greece really should have defaulted and taken that path, its not nice but the process of default is hundreds of years old.   Every debt has risk and sometimes there is loss, breaking these rules trying to rewrite it is what is destroying Greece.  

Im listening to an hour long speech by Paul Mason alleging that capitalism has failed but all these events happening now are not capitalism.   Money is centralised & controlled, its very worth is not in the hands of the Greek people.   Capital centred around the people and owners of business within a country is capitalism, Greece is struggling to cope with their monetary worth determined by a foreign power.   I dont support racism or even nationalism but the very terms used in any discussion are incorrect and I never see anyone object.


Recognise failure, accept losses and avoid both in future, its a basic premise lasting many centuries.  Bailout is meaningless, its not capitalism and probably not even democratic


http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-blog/mind-game-theory-economics-greeces-future-depends-emotion/3223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HMs0kkUvq8

CNN did a quite sympathic cover on this with his family making the basic point that the punishment outweighed any personal involvement he had in the trade.    Im not sure how guilty he is but I'd guess 10 to 15 years as a normal punitive sentence.   No violence was involved by him I believe, bank robbers with shotguns fired would get like 20 ?

He is basically a victim of a over developed government with no limitations on its spending or accountability to its actions it seems.  His best hope is the government goes broke or defaults and a radical change to the current big gov thinking comes about.   No localised system of justice would require someone like him to die after decades in prison, he is a political pawn.

USA is not isolated in this kind of thing, I believe its relatable news that a citizen was fined for photographing a police car and complaining on facebook about their parking.  This is considered a crime of citizen persecution of government or some weird thinking.  My take, Ulbricht upset the gods and they are wrathful lol  his appeal is not likely to succeed in mitigating that effect but if they even cut it to 40 years that'd be something

https://www.fbi.gov/baltimore/press-releases/2009/ba121109a.htm

Im no way trying to defend him, I think he was an idiot but his sentence is more to do with the system then him personally

^^  It also depends on what worth dollars hold at that time, we're not talking fixed exchange.  The argument I read was always that dollars are produced at a far greater rate then actual natural growth or popular use but bitcoin is relatively limited.  Of course dollars are world currency and its hard to gauge demand.  Bitcoin had aspirations towards the same global use but though its widespread its very sparsely used of course, longevity might save bitcoin but Im not sure

Thats alot of lurking, must be more active then me because Im logged in reading a thread but not browsing as such so you got me beat:
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