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11141  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Ruble drops 12% in one day. on: December 29, 2014, 02:01:57 AM
Running away from a bad environment would seem to be alot different to running away from oneself though its true wherever you go, there you are!    Losing trade with Russia does hurt Europe and other places, some worse then others but in the main Russia was and is about oil and gas and they can be replaced.
   The way Putin controls that country is not really to its benefit beyond keeping basic order which I presume they could do without him, Russia can be replaced in global trade which does make sanctions far harder for them then us.    Im not sure they will be forced to change course as they do have China and if Cuba is any example it can take a very long time to change anything

Overall I rate Putin as a moderate, he is not the worse you could have.  I fear situations like Libya where they seem to spiral downwards without forced unity, would sanctions have done better there
11142  Economy / Economics / Re: USA is now number 2 on: December 29, 2014, 01:49:56 AM
China is developing and has much ground to make up from the past losses to trade.  USA is more in decline because of its overburden to government, it must consolidate and resolve conflicts in its economy between what works and does not.  I expect that is why China would 'beat' USA in GDP growth.
Some admire the command economy idea and that China may advance because politics has the power to force it but I think most natural growth likely to succeed would be unforced and supported by people without duress
11143  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I the only girl on here? : ( on: December 29, 2014, 01:41:31 AM
Once every fortnight is not that much really and the strength of bitcoin is in its longevity, Im more interested in how it holds out rather then being a point of interest over a summer then gone.  That would make it a false or failed concept, so far its lasted so I expect price to go up still

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no idea how activity works?

Theres a faq somewhere but its not needed to know, its a technical point about forum stats.  Why anyone cares would be more sensible, of course nerds love stats
11144  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 29, 2014, 01:39:02 AM
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Many people might be shocked to know that the Euro actually has the most 'paper' currency (including coins) actually in physical circulation

Ive read that before a few times as criminal gangs with large amounts of money like the Euro for its high denominations and liquidity.   I think dollar is still most favoured globally as its used as the actual main currency unofficially many places.    China is another place Ive heard of very large amounts of cash being hoarded like this related to corruption, enough cash to fill a warehouse so perhaps they lack the appreciation and high value euro has come to have
11145  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Ruble drops 12% in one day. on: December 25, 2014, 04:03:19 AM
He is saying Russias problems lie with the nature and actions of its people, they allow Putin to be there not that 1 man is the cause.
Partly true I guess though Im sure you are your own person

Saudi talk Russian problems with producing oil at low cost - http://uk.businessinsider.com/saudi-oil-minister-hints-russia-doesnt-deserve-market-share-2014-12
11146  Economy / Economics / Lobsters in the pot on: December 25, 2014, 03:37:41 AM
why is it ok for a group of people calling themselves the government to force everyone to buy their services?
if enough armed people refused to pay and told the government to go fuck itself there is nothing they could do.

That would be the creation of a new country most likely.   People live together en masse because its efficient to do so and actually costs less then your stand alone proposal; even with taxes.    Yet USA and many other places have excessive taxes and worse still, unrestrained interference by government in normal trade and activities of its citizens.  
This is when taxes becomes a problem, not because it was always invalid but when it fails the majority in any purpose and undermines society.   Why do people choose to do so, I think society is naturally inclined to continue with recognised practise and even though its in downward spiral we follow it down till its overwhelmingly uncomfortable and people depart, take painful measures, etc
11147  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold to the moon on: December 25, 2014, 03:31:06 AM
Gold itself is considered a very small market and unable to bear global trade like dollar treasuries currently do.  The criticism that USA has too much debt on the flipside enables very large instant liquidity for almost any size party from companies to multi level governmental operations, that is why QE appears to be a sucess.   The truth of damage done both in debt and deficit spending but also liquidity that absence of qe receding creates will only become apparent when its too late, hence the phrase you can only see whose naked when the tide goes out.
  A natural swing (back) to other less biased, true dynamic entities such as gold is quite certain but also Bitcoin's regular schedule should compare well, it still has to prove long term use or demand like gold
11148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: December 22, 2014, 05:19:52 AM
Your denial is a symptom of your euphoria.
No its called understanding how herd reacts in market cycles
Perhaps, but it is way overdue for a correction. The herd is being led to a slaughter and it's going to be ugly.

denile is just a river in egypt :p

Market cycles apply to both sides of the equation and market prices are made up of currency value, when that hard value alters dramatically the waves that occur normally are likely bigger.   So what you gauge as euphoria could be the most sensible gauge of underlying factors and a correct place to be not a bubble.  In short typical studies of protracted currency weakness show the stock market most often does not lose value as much as other asset classes, anything tied to that specific nation like bonds suffer greatly also as they are time bound.  A company especially if trading internationally is relatively invulnerable in comparison


Whats surprising with Russia is that it has not helped bitcoin, do they have that locked down so citizens cannot use it

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Insta-inflation in the connected age
All inflation can be argued as instant in that the nations monetary base is expanded, its the effects which take time according to distribution of the new 'wealth'    .  We are instantly connected but the largest stores of new money are held by government including communist china which in a very ancient way does not allow access to that money for the vast majority of its people
11149  Economy / Economics / Re: Was Bitcoin actually just a Pump and Dump? on: December 20, 2014, 05:18:56 AM
I thought 100 was a possible reset area because its roughly where it launched from last year.    If it was to reverse typically it would be very brief and alot of volume.  A quote from George Soros is, Volatility is greatest at turning points, diminishing as a new trend becomes established.  Also volume usually spikes however its often very hard to tell at the time
11150  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a small $5 Loan on: December 20, 2014, 04:57:04 AM
Wouldnt that be foolish as he lose some of his trust rating for such a small amount.   Maybe if the account were stolen that scenario would make sense but its seems way too much hassle to me.
Hows collateral for 5 dollars work
11151  Economy / Economics / Re: Dollar coming to an end on: December 20, 2014, 04:36:07 AM
oil demand is rising even when the price rises or falls.  Same with bitcoin is that demand for a solid uncompromised global currency is rising. Im not sure bitcoin will be used but its applicable market is rising and the ability of populations to access its worth is also rising so that is a bullish outlook.
  Even while some industry may be in decline and so recession a possibility, I think the demand for oil is going to rise because of progression in various countries development and dollar will continue to weaken and its long term system; that promotes bitcoin or least some alternative system
11152  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold to the moon on: December 20, 2014, 04:16:01 AM
gold has zero potential unlike bitcoin

Gold has uses its just it comes at high cost as we know mining is no simple thing and it takes about 10 years to setup a new operation in a new area.   Bitcoin costs in theory should make it much more appealing but its not right to say theres no use for the higher cost of gold. Its a very new thing that bitcoin could be reliable and available globally like the economy of gold demand provides
11153  Economy / Economics / Re: USA is now number 2 - comparative advantage on: December 20, 2014, 03:42:08 AM
By production USA is not even number two, its really subject to upset if it was not able to import as now.  USA is #1 in food production potential ?  factors like that make me think we dont see a total melt down whatever does happen
   Russia has problems with declining population, its not especially productive even in oil and gas it lacks innovation that USA could boast of.  Yes by pure numbers Russia has alot but so does Canada, it doesnt equate to productive capacity if the cost becomes too high and for oil exploration and extraction they use foreign workers and technology to make best use.  They are exporters of the raw product but as we see now that can be a weakness because its the middle east who have the very easiest lowest costs.   Russia needs the world, I dont think they are near to number two and by people its not the force it once was.

China has people but also in decline, again I think they do need world trade to make the best.  In gold they are top in production but sorely lacking in actual reserves still, they refuse to disclose an accurate measure.  Mostly I think this allows them to buy at a lower price, generally China is interested in acquiring not just the product but various commidity resources across the globe.   One I used to own, produces at cost 1600 an ounce but thats still cheap enough for them to buy apparently; of course at a distressed price and they can idle till true demand is shown is my guess

Ironically USA has growing population and various positives.  It also has the highest gold reserves and some production but its debt is so overwhelming (and ongoing tax burden, deficit, red tape, etc) all the positives are overshadowed till its dealt with.  
11154  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 19, 2014, 02:51:21 AM
" China is acquiring gold not in an attempt to eventually back the yuan with gold but as a simple hedge against their multi trillion dollar US debt holdings"

Doing so would enable real capitalism in the middle of communist china.  It does seem unlikely without a revolution in china for that to happen.   The big thing now is how closely China and Washington agree on centralising power and choosing favourites for distribution of control they wield over their subjects.  It doesnt work in either case, there are some big bears on Chinas debt also
11155  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: December 15, 2014, 04:56:01 AM
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it did prohibit prevent banks from securing their most risky derivative plays with taxpayer insured FDIC funds.

The real failure is allowing FDIC insurance when consumers would naturally police bank activities to favour the most conservative institutions.  You can tell me banks would just deceive and misled perhaps but this is already covered by various laws on false accounting.   Over governance is generally a negative to business and does not protect people as we see excessive risk continues to be within banking anyway
11156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: December 15, 2014, 04:08:28 AM
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Gold could go down 20% or maybe 30% but it can go up 50%, 100% or a lot more so it seems like a good investment especially since you can have Gold without much third party risk.

Gold is certainly a good bet at this point, brother. See here for patterns and details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869664.msg9823983#msg9823983

 Wink


Gold is aided by the drop in oil barrel pricing as alot of the costs are related to energy and construction equipment gets pretty bad mileage!      Also any worries on country credit worthiness should help gold which is retained by central banks for this purpose as an irrefutable exchange of worth in global trade.   Also low oil causes problems with rebalancing budgets, USA is consumer of course but elsewhere; Venezuela nears default
11157  Economy / Economics / Re: USA is now number 2 on: December 12, 2014, 02:29:08 AM

China is uncapable of producing quality stuff. No one is going to trust China to buy a car but everyone will keep trusting the Germans and so on.
They do produce quality stuff, many computer parts come out of China.   The main thing is quality control, management and I guess development though Ive heard of new Chinese researched products I dont know they regularly make advancements or not.

China can go forward and do anything required but they do seem to go offtrack without guidance.  So do we really trust a Chinese brand name not to cut corners, thats their main problem.  China needs to partner trade to keep up their growth, so I dont see them being a powerhouse dictating terms.  They are very capable of taking over car production from USA for example but the design excellence of the germans not so much
11158  Economy / Economics / Re: USA is now number 2 on: December 10, 2014, 02:11:10 AM
China is a far larger country, what took them so long.  Mao Tse-tung I think knows that one.
Problem is China holds so many ties to USA, its more like joint 2nd.   With all their treasury debt they are more invested then many who actually live here so Im thinking its more of a three legged race then anything else
11159  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I the only girl on here? : ( on: December 08, 2014, 03:01:44 AM
Shame theres not a way to ignore a thread I guess.  If  ignoring a forum profile it should ignore their threads started too ideally
By largest market I mean the majority of humans are female, it does seem a way to shoot yourself in the foot if excluding the majority from the start off.  I see Bitcoin as a startup still and the word still needs to get out, mostly its speculative or hype to many not practical as such
11160  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I the only girl on here? : ( on: December 08, 2014, 02:39:05 AM
Click the unwatch button and your problems are solved.   

You better hope theres women using bitcoin or its not likely to succeed. Pretty sure women are the largest market on earth for any product or potential marketplace.   Its a reasonable thread to stay open, all the moaning does is just bump it some more otherwise it'd be on page 10 by now and not read most likely
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