Google already works with the NSA.
Right that is my point, see all of us are enjoying the free low hanging fruit provided by Google because that helps them get NSA and other kinds of contracts that pay very large sums of money. Google is no different then any other company and what is worse is that a majority of people are just following along thinking what a great group of open minded folks. Just wait this dog will turn and bit you, it is not a mater of if but when. Well, if you have a criminal secretive organization that, under "color of law", tells you "either you do as we tell you, or we'll start putting your people in cages / punishing them in other ways / destroying your business", you tend to comply. In such a case, your compliance can't be taken as evidence of immorality or evidence that you acted in bad faith. Exactly. The problem isn't that Google works with the NSA, it's that the NSA exists at all. Exactly. The problem isn't the people who must obey a Mafia -- the problem is the Mafia making threats. Google has been the mafia from day 1. Look to see where the money came from and what companies set it up and brought it to power. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. |
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pssht lol what ever. Lets all take schoolbooks from kids so they can become millionaires over something that's BS. Why wait 60 years to sue?
Last time I checked the CIA doesn't have a part of its budget set aside to pay for school books. If you have been the victim of high level criminal activity involving a substance virtually unknown to people at the time (LSD) , it usually helps if you first of all know what you were drugged with (a couple decades there). Second any time you are suing the federal government or its subsidiaries, you might not want the very same people who assaulted you to be able to influence the very mechanism with which you are seeking justice. |
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Sociopaths also will exist in AnCap, and render their personal brand of hell in all their ways within such a society as well. What is your point again? In a free society the damage sociopaths can cause to society will finally be limited to what they can accomplish via their own efforts instead of amplified by access to armies, nuclear weapons, police forces and taxation. What you mean, then, is they could never be worse than, say, someone like Hitler, as they gain wealth and power and a following? Nothing in AnCap precludes the accumulation of wealth, weapons, leverage through business, influence and followers. Good try, though. Hitler couldnt do much running a company like general motors or walmart. I dont think he would get very far gassing his customers. What if Hitler ran the company that sold the gas? |
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This has already been sold sorry.
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It's quite funny to see sociopaths in this thread calling me "mentally unstable" when the events and actions I've pointed out can actually be observed in reality. I guess when the reality one tries to deny is undeniable, the only recourse of the dishonest / sociopathic individual is to attack people to try and discredit / defame them at all costs. Stef warned us about that in The Fascists That Surround You series.
One can't cover the Sun with one's thumb, but that won't stop statists from trying like the idiots they are.
It is becoming clear that Rudd-O is projecting his psyche with his messages. He inserted himself in this thread only to 'attack people to try and discredit / defame them at all costs'. The evidence remains in his refusal to participate in the debate and his constant offensive messages. Myrkul at least try to debate and to reason for his ideas. I thought Rudd-O was just a hypocritical person. I am inclined to think he is not just that... Because hate. He hates you and me and everyone else who presents ideas that scare him. He has issues and he chooses to soothe his emotions by attacking and insulting others rather than by actually choosing to heal. That's why.
Holy shit, that's right. I remember him doing that to me, trying to defame me there. He also wrote stalkerish PMs to me. He's a creeper. Ignore crappo.
He has no argument -- only hate for you, because you've stated that Daddy Gummint (the authority figures) is a sociopath, and how dare you say that about Daddy? Ergo, he won't engage with you rationally -- he will only try to defame and discredit you.
Augustocrappo's is the standard childish conversation sabotage tactic. He needs to learn how to get get the peanut butter out of his ears before he can sit at the big boys' table and interact with them.
I remember that part, yes.
That's precisely why this thread is so amusing. Lotsa sociopaths showing their fangs around here.
By the way:
This is another thread littered with the emotional droppings of AugustoCreepo and FirstAsshat.
I highly suggest to everyone here to please add these assballs to your ignore list and ignore what they say. They're empty-headed emotional wreckballs of hate. The more attention you give them, the more they fulfill their goal: sabotaging discussion of ideas that terrify them.
Ignore the walkie stalkie augustocreepo. He feeds on attention. Don't feed him. Your life is far too valuable to be reading the garbage they spew. Simply add him to your ignore list, and then (whenever he posts on any thread you've posted) make a one-line note saying you're ignoring him because he's a provocateur / asshole / saboteur / et cetera, and inviting others to do the same.
Well, the thing is, when you interact with them, they (and possibly others) interpret your behavior as validation of their shitty conduct. Not to mention that the thread becomes about THEIR garbage, rather than the topic at hand. That's why it's superior, more effective, better on your time expenditure, to ignore them, and then making short notes warning other people not to interact with the shitheads.
I love these threads, two more for my ignore list: FirstAscent and augustocroppo.
Hooray! I also love these threads because they cause the sociopaths to identify themselves. Stef's part four cast accurately predicted the behavior of the sociopaths in this thread attempting to shout these truths down.
Eerily accurate.
Hahaha I love this thread, all of my ignore list jumped to bitch about it.
Rudd-O is one of the most sensible people I have seen here in a LONG time. He is intelligent and knows how to make an actual argument, which I can't say the same for the vast majority of the peanut gallery we have going on here. You guys better get together and gang up on him because he is just demolishing your "arguments", and as usual you retreat to the in house group of yes men and personal attacks. Good job Rudd-O. Keep up the good work. |
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So we agree that minimum wage laws supporting a living wage are good and that business profitability is a complex issue that cannot be narrowed down to one issue like consumer demand. I would love to debate you live just to hear you shouting and ignoring my argument like you are now.
You don't have an argument. When you do, I'll respond to it. Your contention is that a free market can exist simply because it can be shown "in theory." Nope, not my argument at all. See, you can't even read, let alone compose an argument. I second this. cbeast has no argument and his behavior here demonstrates that he doesn't know how to compose an argument. I'm adding him to my ignore list since his comments contribute little value to anyone, so I'd prefer not to be annoyed by them. Did I really just see this on Bitcointalk? Are the tides turning? Good job breaking it down. I hope too see more of this around here. |
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I hope they never win a buck. Lawsuits of this kind are causing irreperable damage to any society. What is needed is criminal prosecution of individuals, not a lawsuit. Suing murderers to ask for money legitimizes crime: it's okay, but you may have to have the agency or private corporation you worked for pay some money later. Those who accept these kinds of payment are complacent in crimes.
Why would the government implicate itself with criminal charges? |
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Too bad you didn't put this on Bitmit as an auction. You *may* have got much more for it.
I've seen trade listings for copy coins made in China so this may be where it originated. They are very cheap in bulk if anyone has ideas about sourcing these.
Seriously? Even disclosing that they aren't real? In China they are very proud of their ability to make passable fakes, it is part of their culture believe it or not. |
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maybe usagi believes if they accuse enough people it will hide their own scamming.
He did refuse to pay me for a project he contracted and attempted to intimidate me when I expected to be paid for work he requested and approved of. I was forced to open a scammer thread since he was uncooperative. Some one else paid his debt because he clearly was in the wrong. USAGIs response was to accuse me of scamming for having received a payment from some one else for work he commissioned and refused to pay for -_- He clearly has no problem being scummy, divisive, childish, and is willing to commit theft of service. Maybe there is something somewhere I don't know about that he contributes here, but I doubt it makes up for the train wreck this guy leaves behind him everywhere he goes, and it is always someone else's fault. |
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I just wanted to confirm, I am expecting 5 ounces from J-Norm. He has shipped first. I will be sure to update here when they are received.
I got my Philharmonics today, they were as described and arrived quickly. Thank you very much, will deal with you again! |
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Yes there is: your claim that what I am saying is that fascism = sociopaths. since that's clearly false, and I never claimed that, That is a straw man, that you set up so you could knock down with definitions. Unless you are just a fucking moron, and can't understand an analogy. So which is it, Straw man, or moron? Neither! You are indeed intentionally try to stir up the discussion to disguise your confused definitions. There was no straw men. If you believe there was without even to explain how there was, you are indeed delusional. At no moment I claimed or suggested that you were equaling fascism with sociopathy. I have been arguing that your analogy is beyond stupid and does not explain the hypothetical relationship of a political regime and a psychological disorder. You should read twice every time you answer, look at the dictionary, consult references, etc. This is all easily to be done with Internet available. For example, you could verify that: Straw Man occurs when
an opponent takes the original argument of his/her adversary
and then offers a close imitation, or straw man, version of the original argument As I said, you will find sociopaths in a fascistic government, just as you will find roses in a garden. That is the relation. You will find individuals with psychological disorder in other political regimes as well. This does not prove that there is an exclusive relationship of fascism with sociopathy. It only proves that individuals with psychological disorder can be found participating in any political regime. You are failing to explain what is the relationship between fascism and sociopathy. The original argument, 'you will find sociopaths in a fascistic government, just as you will find roses in a garden'.My version of your original argument: 'You will find individuals with psychological disorder in other political regimes as well.' I argued exactly over your argument, without limit the meaning, hence the premise that your argument '...only proves that individuals with psychological disorder can be found participating in any political regime' That is exactly what you mean: I only said your analogy works because it does indeed show that sociopaths are everywhere, like in your AnCap society.
Yes, but the Fascistic government has that tasty power structure for them to seize, and use to their (and their fellow sociopaths') benefit. You agreed with my version of your original argument with a 'yes' to another user! In your analogy, you affirms:
'Roses exist inside a garden, they are the centerpiece (leadership, in our analogy)'
This imply the 'roses' are the political leaders.
This, right here, your very first premise, is where you go wrong. The Roses are the Sociopaths, the political leaders are the "centerpiece" of the government. Where roses are in a garden, they are the centerpiece. Where they are not present, other things, such as a fountain, or fruit tree are the centerpiece. Where Sociopaths exist in a government, you can be assured you find them in leadership roles... the "centerpiece." Wait... Do you read proof what you write? You wrote that 'Roses ... are the centerpiece', but now you are pretending that 'roses are the sociopaths' and then affirming that 'the political leaders are the centerpiece'. You are now implying that individuals with psychological disorder always become the central political leadership of any political regime. 'Roses exist inside a garden, they the entire theme of the garden (the entire power structure, in our example).'
This imply the 'garden' is the political structure.
Heh. You actually got one right. So you agree that I am right, that 'garden' is the political structure: As I said, you will find sociopaths in a fascistic government, just as you will find roses in a garden. That is the relation. Translating: 'As I said, you will find sociopaths in a fascistic government, just as you will find sociopaths in a political structure.'This prove that my argument was valid and not a limited version of your original argument: 'It only proves that individuals with psychological disorder can be found participating in any political regime' Nope... You can have a political structure without sociopaths, but sociopaths are drawn to political structures.
No, I translated it for you. You even quoted it. Sociopaths tend to take over any fascistic power structure they are introduced to. Do you have learning issues? How many times I need to repeat that sociopaths are individuals with a psychological disorder, not individuals conspiring to overtake political regimes. No, One DOES NOT care for other individuals, the other PRETENDS TO care for other individuals. They care: The Fascist accepts life and loves it, knowing nothing of and despising suicide: he rather conceives of life as duty and struggle and conquest, but above all for others -- those who are at hand and those who are far distant, contemporaries, and those who will come after. Your false premise is contradicting yourself: 'Once you have one...'...DOES NOT care for other individuals... '...you're well on your way to having a...'other PRETENDS TO care for other individuals. You are affirming that a group of individuals which does not really care will lead to a group of individuals which pretend to care. You are implying that a group of sociopaths leads to a group of fascists. That contradicts your own false premise: 'sociopaths tend to take over any fascistic power structure they are introduced to', which means that first there is the group which pretends to care, and then comes the group which really do not care. Moreover, you ignored a important part of my observation: Moreover, you affirmed that political structures are influenced by an unidentified subject, which causes the political structure to attract psychological disorder. This beg the question: who is the subject under the 'temptation' to add political leaders sociopaths to the political structure? Where this 'temptation' come from? However, political leadership is a very comfortable place for a sociopath to exercise his sociopathy. You seem to believe that sociopathy is some kind of skill, when in fact sociopathy is a psychological disorder. Individuals diagnosed with sociopathy does not believe or understand they are afflicted by a psychological disorder. They cannot become aware of that knowledge to decide if politics is the best choice to them exercise sociopathy. I asked for a diagnosis from a qualified person. You provided books, not results of a diagnosis. The first reference does not address your premise. It does not serve as coherent evidence to prove that the names you cited were afflicted by sociopathy. Who is the devil you know?
Could it be your lying, cheating ex-husband?
Your sadistic high school gym teacher?
Your boss who loves to humiliate people in meetings?
Sometimes you just know 'em when you see 'em….
Historical sociopaths: Hitler, Stalin, Rasputin, Eichmann, Pol Pot, John Gotti That is not a diagnosis, that is an assumption without any reasonable explanation or evidence. Quote some more, maybe some one will be fooled into thinking you have something to say. |
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If you think this is crack pottery, search for "Clinton Apologizes for MKUltra"
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Anyone who's made it through the second video should find this thread throughly amusing so far.
I did not even watched the first video and I find you very pathetic. Arguing from an admitted position of ignorance is not a good idea. Augustocrappo's is the standard childish conversation sabotage tactic. He needs to learn how to get get the peanut butter out of his ears before he can sit at the big boys' table and interact with them. I am surprised how regularly this sabotage tactic is used here. Many people use it, consciously or not. It is a very simple task to join a discussion on any subject and endlessly deconstruct it until the discussion is derailed. It doesn't take much intelligence, just a really hard head, and true belief in the infallible correctness of your own ideology. So they want to discuss the relation between sociopaths and fascism. No one ever demanded that you believe it, or declared themselves an expert on the topic. No one OWES you an explanation that satisfies your demands. Now stop acting like a child knocking down the discussion other people built, and in which you have clearly expressed your lack of interest in. It is pretty sad that you need to seek out people you disagree with in order to feed your ego by endlessly deconstructing conversations. We get it, you can analyze things, poorly... now get a life and let the adults talk. |
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I just wanted to confirm, I am expecting 5 ounces from J-Norm. He has shipped first. I will be sure to update here when they are received.
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I ordered 3 maple leaf coins and they were genuine and in excellent condition. They also arrived quickly. Really couldn't ask for much more. Thank you!
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Gold is often a tricky sell online unless it is assayed or serialized like how PAMP ships. It is much more cost effective to counterfeit gold then it is to counterfeit silver (not implying yours are fakes). Right now my local coin shop is selling 1 oz rounds for about 1 bitcoin over your asking price and in my opinion I would rather buy local from a known source at that price difference. Just my two pennies worth.
I have found that after handling gold for even a short time that fakes are very obvious, I have most of the coins this guy is showing and I can tell you that the color and definition is all right. Just from the photo I can tell those are the real deal. The fakes generally are not very good, they lack definition and are not even close to heavy enough. Silver is more often faked with success than gold is. I agree with buying locally, but selling locally sucks around here. The only folks around want to give me 60%, ya right. As metal prices go up fakes get more and more advanced. If the coin was filled it would have the exact same luster and not be worth nearly as much. Even 1oz silver rounds are starting to be faked now. |
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What's the "'tree-cops'" reference. Even Google don't know.
Tree-cops is a reference to the hallucinations a stimulant abuser suffers after a long binge. IE they see imaginary cops in the trees or made out of swaying tree branches. |
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Still no reply? Please pm me your 1oz inventory.
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