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1121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Answer this Gambling Question on Duration of Joy after a win or loss on: January 08, 2024, 10:59:16 AM
No one enjoys losing in gambling.Losing brings our hopes down, it ushers in emotional pain and grumpiness whereas, winning elevates our mood, bringing happiness and excitement. There are games where I have won and after withdrawing my winnings, I am so happy that I give gifted some of it to people around me. This doesn't last for long once the it is out of my hand and minds. I am curious, how long does this joy last after a win or a loss—does it linger until your next bet, lasting the whole day, just 20 minutes, or perhaps 2 hours?


Firstly, for me there are two differences that we can review from your post. related to joy, there are various forms and how we create it. secondly, joy or happiness is pseudo or only temporary. we cannot measure for sure how long that happiness will last. it could be just an instant, a few hours, days, even years. depending on how you, I, we, condition it. because, we ourselves create it in our thoughts and lives and environment. well, now let's discuss the gambling side. what you say, especially in the reality of gambling. we agree with that, that what you say in this post is a picture that we often experience and feel. it's just that your question in this thread will not have an answer, IMO. because as I said at the beginning of the post, joy is only temporary.

Let's take an example, let's say I'm playing slots and have been playing for a long time, and when I get good hits after playing for a long time. at this very moment, happiness will automatically appear by itself. it would be very natural, wouldn't it, because this is what we want in every game session. however, in a matter of seconds or minutes, the situation can change and the emotion of joy disappears, replaced by anxiety and the emotion of anger arises. in this condition, I illustrate that the nature of joy is only temporary. so, now I ask you again, will you also enjoy the session when we are experiencing defeat? I would conclude, the answer is no. in fact, we ourselves will find it difficult to answer how long this joy will last. unless, you earn millions of dollars from your gambling sessions. or, let's say you hit the jackpot. of course, the excitement will last quite a long time.

The point I want to make, at this stage we are gambling specifically in games that are based purely on luck. our emotions will be very fluctuating, depending on the conditions and atmosphere at that time. the problem is, will you allow yourself to be drawn into the pain caused by emotional defeat. if so, then it usually has a bad impact. but on the other hand, when the joy doesn't last long, you can create it in something else. remember, our idea of ​​gambling is nothing but to have fun as well as entertainment. and if it is no longer fun and exciting, you can create it in something else without having to hold on to something that has passed. in particular, as it relates to our gambling.

1122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 08, 2024, 10:16:02 AM
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It's good that De Bruyne got the opportunity to play in a match with a weak opponent when his team was already winning. He was able to make an assist, this is still the same Kevin we remember. I think that for now Guardiola will not let him play from the first minutes, but he will enter the field in the second half. City's next match will be against Newcastle, not the easiest opponent, but Newcastle is in a slump now and this match shouldn't be difficult for City. It's good that De Bruyne is back in the game, it was a long break for him, he will definitely strengthen the team's attack.

In the match against Huddersfield, Pep gave De Bruyne the opportunity to adjust himself and adapt to his teammates on the field. entering in the 57th minute to replace Alvarez, De Bruyne was able to play well even after he had been injured for quite a long time. even though he played only 33 minutes, he made 46 touches, 1 chance, 28 accurate passes and 1 beautiful assist. referring to what you said, yeah, that's absolutely right. Pep won't let him play straight away as the main starter. basically, players who have just recovered from injury must first get used to adapting to their teammates. and it would be very natural if he started playing from the bench. as I said, the goal is none other than so that the player can adapt again. and the coach, will monitor the movements and play. if he meets the standards, then Pep will play him again as the main starter.

Next week, City will visit Newcastle in matchday 20. if we refer to De Bruyne's performance in the FA Cup competition, it seems he deserves to be a starter again. but we'll see what happens next, whether Pep will give him the opportunity to become a starter straight away. or, Pep plays him starting from the bench. that is certain, even though this match is an away match for City. Pep Guardiola's squad is more favored based on the betting market. apart from that, De Bryune's return is an advantage for City.
On the other hand, Newcastle's condition is in unstable performance, plus several of its players are still suffering from injuries. so, it would be very natural if City were superior and on paper they should be able to get full points smoothly even though they are playing at home to Newcastle.
1123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ? on: January 08, 2024, 09:20:48 AM
Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ?  If not, how much you think is sufficient to retire as Gambling winning ?

Allow me to ask, what is your motivation for asking and what is the basis for your thinking with the pensuin idea of ​​your gambling winnings for example. honestly, I never crossed my mind with this question. is this an idea, or... well, I agree with the point made by another member under your post, "Gambling is not a job". and what he said is the most appropriate answer to your post. Gambling is not a job, because there are no certain results when we gamble. in most cases, a person accepts defeats more than wins. then, how will we retire with our gambling losses. unless, someone hits a jackpot in multiples of millions of dollars. either from the lottery, or other gambling that involves very large winnings. examples there are many, for example I bet on sports multibets with a large bankroll. and when I win, I get millions of dollars for that win. it can also be done with other forms of gambling, one bet with all the money you have, in other words All IN. you can play the game you like, whether it's roulette, baccarat, or other types of games. when victory is on your side, you will get a win commensurate with what you bet. then, are we going to stop or just say retire. probably 99% won't. except, those of you who have ideas like this.

To be honest, I'm not a gambler who always bets with a large bankroll. I usually adapt to my needs when gambling, but there are still limits that I have to obey. I don't think gambling is a job, a place to make money, or anything else that has the idea of ​​a livelihood. for me, gambling in this era is an instant form of entertainment amidst our busy routines. with a busy work schedule and limited time, this entertainment is the most efficient thing I can do. besides, I really like gambling, especially football. I get a lot of entertainment, whether it's from watching a match, analyzing a challenge, or getting an adrenaline rush. with this, I feel alive, because there are exciting challenges in the remaining free time I have. this is the form of entertainment I get, regardless of wins and losses.
1124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet on favorites early in the week & underdogs late in the week strategy... on: January 08, 2024, 08:29:09 AM
I can't study it carefully, because I didn't fully listen to the podcast you were listening to. you are just quoting the main points from the podcast you listened to, namely the basic rules that must be adhered to when betting on sports, betting on favorites at the start of the week and Under-dogs at the end of the week. my question is, is this rule a definite basis, and is the source who said this an expert in that field? honestly, I'm not familiar with this statement. just like you do, I also always listen to podcasts about sports in my local media. there is a lot of material that I can get, it even becomes knowledge for me to involve in betting. honestly, I'm not sure that I necessarily agree that it's a strategy. ideally, anyone who is a resource person in a podcast that discusses gambling, even with their advice, not necessarily what they say is what they apply or even do.

I'm also not a professional gambler, but I like sports. I rarely listen to podcasts about strategies in sports betting, but I prefer ones that discuss material related to football. because of this, it could be useful points for me personally. for example, I follow several channels such as podcasts that discuss football and also analysis in football. this is important for me, because at least I have an idea of ​​what the coach will implement with his system, patterns and strategies. so, we don't have to bet like "Bet on favorites early in the week & underdogs late in the week strategy" because this is not ideal for me personally. for me the most effective strategy is to know about the sport itself, what I mean is football. in this way, we can study and analyze how a team will play its match. if I explain too long, the community may not agree. well, for me there is no ideal strategy in sports betting, let alone football. because, everything depends on the situation and conditions of a team that will compete. apart from that, there are other variables, and this is where, for me, the art of betting lies.
1125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gamblers do retired betting gambles on: January 07, 2024, 11:50:24 PM
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As a gambler what do you think that should be the right time we suppose to leave gambling weather we are making profits or we are not making profits with gambling, because I know quite well that gambling whenever you are making profits you will wish to continue gambling unless that you run out of cash.

Honestly, I don't have the right answer regarding this question. the reason is, I don't know what will happen in the future. Gambling for me is now entertainment that can be done after work activities, during leisure time, or when I am bored. so, I don't have an answer to your question. likewise with other hobbies that I like besides gambling. nothing is certain, but there will be times when we can stop according to certain conditions and situations. even then, if it is accompanied by the intention or enjoys other hobbies besides gambling. my goal in gambling is not just about winning and making money, because there are other ways to do that without the risk of losing. what is certain is that we cannot predict what will happen in the future, even in old age.

Well, now we focus on the old man who is the main character in this thread, a man at the age of 70 who still likes gambling. in fact, this old man said that what he did was only for personal gain. it was clearly implied that he didn't want to talk at length about why he was still gambling. there are many factors behind it. we can assume freely according to what we think, but there is no definite answer because this old man did not say in detail why he still gambles. it could be that he really likes football. to arouse a high sense of enthusiasm for watching it, it involves betting in it. it could also not be a problem with money, after all, he is old enough to earn money, especially from gambling. so, there are many assumptions that we can conclude. but there was no right answer, because only this old man knew it. well, for me personally there is no truly right time. as long as we still enjoy gambling, as long as we will be involved in gambling. moreover, if it doesn't interfere with our financial problems. but usually there comes a time when someone will stop, at an undetermined time but at a fixed time without planning.
1126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 07, 2024, 10:56:23 PM
The main thing that Arsenal should not be knocked out on the back of this defeat and not continue to lose in the EPL, because the statistics of their games does not look comforting, 4 points in the last 5 matches. This is terrible for their position in the table, as a 5 point gap from first place in such a difficult season is quite a big deal

If I refer to the statistics and line-up that Arteta fielded, I'm not sure they are really aiming for victory in the FA Cup match. the reason is, Arteta did not play his full core squad. whether intentionally or not, I really don't know what Arteta is thinking and planning. what is certain is that Arteta has made changes to the rotation of his players.  But let's just say that, if the Arsenal coach focuses his squad more on the Premier League. maybe that's why Arteta didn't play some of his main players, and I hope that's the scenario. or maybe Arteta is running out of ideas against Liverpool, but that conclusion seems unrealistic. so, the closest scenario is if Arsenal focuses more on the Premier League. after all, the course of this match was quite balanced based on statistics. in fact, in terms of opportunities, Arsenal is better. the first goal was a blunder by Jakub Kiwior, and Liverpool's second goal came in the 95th minute. well, let's see how Arsenal plays their match in the Premier League later. and I hope Arteta is able to get his squad back on the right track, because after all the opportunity is still wide open. after all, this competition still has quite a long match, and what is certain is that Arsenal cannot repeat the same mistakes as last season, which saw a decline as the competition neared the end.
1127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 07, 2024, 10:16:43 PM
Indeed, Borussia Dortmund's experience in the UCL league is no longer in doubt, they have participated in the UCL league every year, even though they did not become UCL champions, they often trouble the big teams. In fact, this season they managed to advance to the last 16 from the hell group.

But even so, Borussia Dortmund should not underestimate PSV in the first leg of the round of 16, especially since the first leg will be played at PSV's home ground, of course this will be a motivation for them to beat Borussia Dortmund in front of their own supporters. Apart from that, PSV this season has appeared very impressive in the domestic league, so far they have not been defeated, of course this will make it difficult for Borussia Dortmund to win in the first leg. So my prediction is that the first leg of PSV vs Borussia Dortmund will end in a draw.

Last season, Dortmund experienced quite significant changes after mid-season. so, let's see whether Dortmund will experience another change in improving its performance. we'll find out soon, once the Bundesliga restarts and the Champions League round of 16 competition is held. so, for now we can only speculate and assume. let's flashback to several previous Dortmund matches, Edin Terzic's squad did not get full points in their 6 matches in various competitions. so, it is very natural that bookies favor PSV in the first leg. because their performance shows that Dortmund is not in their best condition even though they have experience in the Champions League compared to the opposing team.

On the contrary, PSV should not be underestimated and I agree with that. in their domestic league, they are the top team. in fact, in 16 matches PSV did not suffer a single defeat. during the Champions League group phase, PSV was able to hold Arsenal to a draw when playing at home. so for this match, I will not rush into making decisions or assume too far. especially if we refer to the betting exchange, for the time being PSV is the favorite.
however, Dortmund is a unique team, they will provide fierce resistance when they meet a stronger team. especially, in crucial matches. in this round of 16, Dortmund will not underestimate their opponent. therefore, Terzic will prepare his team to perform at its best. well, because this match still has a time lag, we'll just follow every development, especially when playing in the Domestic League. for betting or results, for me it is still too early to speculate.
1128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 07, 2024, 09:46:05 PM
AC Milan is surely having good edge with their improved performance which is keeping them at the top ranks, and they can do much better in coming matches as well even they are eliminated from the Champions League but things still favouring them for doing good now they are going to face Rennes for the spot into round of 16 which is quite possible for them to win and go through even few are feeling they can jump into last four as well which is not easy but possible in current conditions.

AC Milan is having good squad even like few other top Italian clubs they are also lacking funds but still good job and enough chances for the win into Europa League now having 6 points difference from the fourth spot team Fiorentina which mean they can stay into another hunt for the Champions League into next season which can make things good for them and improved finances as well.

At the very least, AC Milan must win their battle when they host Rennes in the Knockout phase. Likewise when they visit Roazhon Park, Rennes' home ground.  because these two teams have a fairly obvious gap. Since Milan won over Newcastle in the Champions League Group phase, Pioli's squad started to progress by winning 5 matches in various competitions. Meanwhile, Rennes remains in middle place in its domestic league. So, on paper, Milan has the possibility to advance to the next round. Well, the real challenge after Milan overthrew Rennes. We will see how much Milan will struggle after being eliminated in the Champions League group phase.

But the problem is, what I said is still just assumptions and speculation. when the playoffs are held, we will know which team will win the battle. Even though Milan is above Rennes in terms of quality, that doesn't mean Rennes will let them be beaten easily. at least, there will be resistance that they put up. Therefore, Pioli and his squad cannot underestimate Rennes. Moreover, in football anything can happen. So let's just wait before this match takes place, because so far we have only talked based on assumptions and speculation. Moreover, it is still too early to talk about which team will win the Europa League trophy, because each club will prepare its team to play to show its best version. although, there are several teams that are strong candidates as challengers for this League trophy.
1129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 07, 2024, 09:13:56 PM
PSG just can't be a winner team in the Champions League no matter what they do. I think that their biggest chance was the time with Messi and Neymar being in the squad. They created a great trio in the attacking line but even this wasn't enough to win a single Champions League title. Because Neymar was injured mostly and Mbappe - Messi duo was also not enough to win a title there.

Now in this season PSG's chance is much lower due to their performance until now. The group stage was horrible for them but somehow they made it to last 16.

Mbappe is in his last year at PSG so in case of not winning a Champions League title once again I wonder what his final decision to leave or stay will be.  Smiley

The Champions League competition hasn't even started yet, we never know which team will win the competition. currently Enrique is building his squad, starting with young players. moreover, there are rumors that Mbappe will leave after his contract ends. so, Enrique's job is to maximize his players and develop every talent that PSG players have. this season, I'm sure that Enrique is not targeting the Champions League trophy. as an experienced coach, and also very familiar with the atmosphere of the Champions League, he is well aware that targeting the Champions League trophy is something that will be very difficult to achieve with the current condition of the squad. so they are not aiming for the Champions League, but maybe only this season. maybe next summer, after PSG is better prepared, they will also bring in established players to achieve what they are targeting.

Speaking when PSG was still in the midst of its big star mega project, it was not only Neymar who was an obstacle due to his injury. however, there are a lot of things we can review about PSG at that time, and there are various factors according to my version. in my opinion at that time, PSG was sharp up front but unbalanced in midfield. I mean, they don't have a creative midfielder. apart from that, the coach always forces to change the pattern of every match played by his squad. which means, he doesn't have a standard that he can rely on. plus, lack of experience in the international arena plus Galtier's inability to become a leader in the PSG dressing room. in the end, there are often disputes between PSG players. overall, PSG is not exactly competitive. which in the end, they failed again.
For this season, as I said before, Enrique will only take PSG as far as he can. If they are lucky, maybe they won't face tough opponents in the following phases. that is, if PSG is able to overthrow Real Sociedad. well, there's no harm in just following how Enrique handles his squad, especially in the Champions League.
1130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 07, 2024, 08:44:57 PM
Seems like Al itihad still dont find the path, i dont know why, because they ahve two great coachs but seems like the players dont fit in the ideas of them. three loses in a row is so much for a team with mega stars, and that loses were against weak teams in the preview.

Well, what do you mean by the two coaches are Nuno Santo and Marcelllo Gallardo. if so, I don't want to say that coach Nuno Santo is incompetent. in fact, last season he was able to bring Al Ittihad to win the Saudi Pro League Trophy. however, based on my observations while participating in this competition, this coach is less than ideal in his system. especially, with Benzema's typical playing style. correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I can see, Nuno Santo relies more on counter attacks in implementing his system. and in the end, he was fired by Al Ittihad management.
now Al Ittihad has changed to a coach from Argentina, namely Marcelllo Gallardo. referring to his achievements, he often won trophies with his squad before in the Latin American League competition. apart from that, this coach carries an offensive pattern. statistically, this coach from Argentina is more ideal than the previous coach. so far, Gallardo has handled Al Ittihad in 9 matches. based on statistics, he won 4 matches, 1 draw and 4 defeats, in all competitions played by Al Ittihad. well, in the last 3 matches Al Ittihad experienced quite painful defeats. the reason is, in these 3 matches Al Ittihad conceded 11 goals. which means, there is something wrong with the Al Ittihad squad. either the coach's system and strategy, or players who underperform. however, since being handled by Nuno Santo, Al Ittihad has experienced a decline in performance.

And if I compare it with the other 3 teams, Al Ittihad is not as competitive as its rivals. they only have Benzema, Ngolo Kane and Fabinho. and these three players, are over 30+. as for the other players, they don't seem to have contributed much. so it's natural that last season's champions experienced a decline. ideally, Al Ittihad should reshuffle its squad. by releasing players who are not competent and bringing in players who have quality. in this way, at least Al Ittihad can compete again at the top of the standings in this competition.
1131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 07, 2024, 07:54:52 PM

I think the recent bad performance of Barcelona is due to the injury of some of the key players. You said they lack creativity, But look, they lost Gavi to injury. Pedri is also injured. They are the creative midfielders right now and the most key players of the Barcelona squad. I think the forwards are struggling also due to that. But I do believe that Lewandonski is not performing as well as he is to do in Bayern Munich. But I think Barcelona needs him. He can use his experience to win some games for them. A team full of young players can be chaotic sometimes. The new striker who joined is very young so he will be needing guidelines from the senior players as well.

Overall I agree with what you said, one of the reasons why Barcelona's performance has declined is because several of their key players have suffered injuries. even before that, Pedri, De Jong, Ter Steger, Lewandowski and several other players were injured. in the end, Xavi had to use another strategy to overcome the problems that occurred within his camp. unfortunately, the results did not satisfy Xavi as a coach and us as supporters. but at least, currently several key players have returned to the core squad, namely Do Jong and Lewandowski.

IMO, Barcelona actually has quite competitive player depth. even though Gavi has been injured for a long time and Pedri is currently prone to injury, there are other players who can play multi-functionally. De Jong, previously an attacking midfielder. Gundohan, he can play according to the team's needs. Xabi can rely on these two players in the midfield. the rest Xavi can play Sergio Roberto, Fermin Lopez, Oriol Romeu, according to the needs of the team and the system he applies. what Xavi needs to do is make these players play in rhythm according to the system he applies. in particular, Gundohan, De Jong and Romeu. if these three players have a strong bond, then they will play a solid game. on the front lines there are several options, depending on what Xavi wants to play with the sticker he chooses. but ideally, players whose performance is declining must be rotated and given opportunities to other players.

Now, Barcelona has Vitor Roque. even though his debut was unsatisfactory, it's only natural that he only played 12 minutes against Las Palmas. as for Lewandowski, I won't compare him to his time with Bayern Munich. or, now playing at Barcelona. the reason is, Lewan is currently 35. This means that a decline in performance inevitably occurs with age. however, in fact it is still very reliable. well, the point I want to say is, it's all in Xabi as the Architect of Barcelona and how he implements his system and his squad. if Xavi had an ideal strategy and system, Barcelona should not experience the decline it is currently experiencing. therefore, this is homework and also a challenge for Xavi on how to get around it.
1132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 07, 2024, 06:49:10 PM
Bayern Munich is one team that has very good player combinations, they have in the team quality and skilful players who are in their various positions performing their best. Yes there are competitions from Leverkusen in the Bundesliga and a lot more competitions in the UCL but the team is capable of subduing the stress of the competitions. Tuchel has his eyes on the Bundesliga trophy and a bigger eye on the UCL trophy.

 Although Alonso seems as a threat with the current performance and display from Bayern Leverkusen but Tuchel who's more experienced has drafted out his plans, processes and techniques and he seems ready for any competition that awaits him. He's got a good team for himself and I believe he'd be able to be victorious in 95% of his encounters. Bayern Munich is just one good team that are a general threat to every team they're up against and they have better victory chances too.

Honestly, I still think that Bayern has the most potential to win the Bundesliga trophy this season. there are many factors that become my reasons for the predictions or speculations that I make. and one of them, the points you have said. we agree, this giant Bundesliga team has a very good combination of players. in terms of team depth, Bayern Munich is stronger than any other team competing in the Bundesliga. even though Leverkusen still occupies the top position in the standings, that doesn't mean Munich can't shift them. it's only a matter of time for Bayern to become top of the Bundesliga standings again. apart from that, maybe Tuchel will bring in some new ammunition to strengthen his team and patch up its weaknesses. even though I haven't followed the developments, what is certain is that Tuchel will prepare his squad to appear more fierce in the match they will play. regarding the Champions League, I haven't heard that Tuchel is targeting that trophy. but what is certain is that the Bundesliga is Bayern Munich's main target.

Talking about Leverkusen, IMO, I actually suspect that Xabi Alonso's squad is under great pressure. I mean, they will try their best to maintain their performance to stay at the top of the standings. so psychologically, Leverkusen allegedly has a mental burden on their shoulders to keep performing well on the right track. on the other hand, Leverkusen will face Bayern at the BayArena in the next few weeks, only now Bayern Munich is different when the two teams met in the first match. one of Bayern's weaknesses at that time was the goalkeeper, namely Ulreich. also, several of their defenders were injured. the meeting between these two teams will present an interesting match. the point is, Leverkusen must win the match. or at least, end in a draw. thus, conditions will turn around for Bayern Munich who have the burden of shadowing Leverkusen. however, if Thomas Tuchel's squad is able to get full points, it means they are on their way back to the top of the standings. but however, everything I say is still based on assumptions. to find out more, yeah, let's enjoy the competition between these two teams.
1133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you willing to bet $50 spin for a chance to win $42 million? on: January 07, 2024, 06:09:05 PM
This thread is inspired by the thread created by sportsbet.io about a lucky bettor who won $42 million on a $50 spin.

So let's discuss. This kind of win can be compelete considered based on luck, and the winner is so lucky that he hit the Jackpot. However, since the goal here is $42 million and you can only win that if you would bet $50 for one spin. So, do you have the courage to do that?

If I can afford it, and don't mind losing $50 why not. after all, the rewards provided are many times the capital we spend per bet. the point is, we have to be willing and sincere if we lose $50 in just one spin. as you said, the problem is that getting a reward or jackpot from this round is very small. I mean, the probability that we have is very slim. even though it is random, only the luckiest people will ultimately get this good fortune. let's imagine, let's just say that there are thousands or hundreds of people who are doing it and are interested in some kind of challenge like this. so, what are the chances we have of getting this jackpot. to be sure, the possibility is very small.

Honestly, I don't know what kind you share on this page. however, with fantastic rewards, of course many gamblers are interested in taking on this challenge. especially, for those who think that $50 is a trivial matter. hence, they can do it many times when they want. just like the lottery, not a few people risk a large bankroll just for one ticket. even though they are well aware, the ratio of losses is greater than the potential we can win. however, in reality I would be more interested in betting on something I like. for example football, at least the chance of winning is greater than throwing away $50 in just one spin. however, that doesn't mean I'm not interested. because after all, the reward is what is attractive. It's just that, I will involve my wisdom in the bets I make. if I win in my other bet, and the value is quite large. maybe I can try my luck with one spin. the rest, comes back to betting that I understand.
1134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 07, 2024, 05:39:17 PM
I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
Theses sets of gamblers doesn't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles instead their friends and relatives are the ones who bears the shameful consequences the addicted gambler brought to their circle of relationships.
At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

Let me share a little experience, I have a close friend, he is a good person, we even have the same passion for gambling. we often gamble together, and in the same place. in our city, roulette and baccarat were the most popular forms of gambling, including the ancient slot machines at that time. my friend is a rich man, he has a lot of property and business. as time went by, fiat online gambling emerged. I focused on fixing myself, my friend stuck with his gambling. in short, he spent all the assets he owned, including his property, at the gambling table. and finally, he owed money here and there. the point is, the story is almost the same as this thread. in the end, it was his family who shouldered all the debt problems.

however there are points that I disagree with what you say in this thread. I will quote him, "Theses sets of gamblers don't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles". so, before we judge someone, it would be better if we got to know them better first. because there are many factors that cause it, apart from habits. there are many who regret what they did, but they have difficulty helping themselves to be free from their addiction. I hear many stories, tales, even in our community. in fact, they need help. apart from what I said, also with the contents of this thread, the one who is most responsible is ourselves. because, we ourselves allow ourselves to have no boundaries in this enjoyable entertainment. so it is important to remember and apply that responsibility is the most important part. we can be stuck in the past, or for some of us who are still having difficulty dealing with addiction. the important point is, have self-control, be responsible and learn from experience. make gambling part of your enjoyable entertainment, no need to be afraid of addiction. because, in fact, we all have self-control that we are born with. the problem is, do we want to get used to it and discipline it? if so, we will automatically only play according to the portion we can afford. apart from that, we will not involve our family in the hobbies we enjoy. so, the answer is simple, we are free because we are not harming anyone.
1135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: January 07, 2024, 02:15:27 PM
I always hear stories of friends who always lose playing online gambling. I don't know what his purpose to tell his story to me. even it's clear, his story makes him look stupid.

Besides that, in another place, Many young people around to me still play slot gambling even don't have a job and always lose. I wonder where they get the money for deposits? and why they repeat that?. I don't know what the reason reason that doesn't bother them, they should have given up, and changed the game that makes them profitable. if I always lose in the game, I will change the type of game, example If I always lose on a slot, I will change the type of game like sports betting until my capital is back and try the luck again to the slot.


When we gamble for the first time, before that we don't have a broad understanding and experience about gambling, usually things like what you say are something that usually happens. moreover, for beginner gamblers, including young people. the peak, when someone finds the answer to their own gambling. that's where someone will choose to stop, or regulate their gambling. well, we have previously discussed it in several threads regarding phenomena like what you said. there are many factors that make this happen, in general, cognitive dissonance, Dopamine, endropine, play an important role in humans, including someone who likes gambling. I can't explain it in detail and correctly, because clearly this is not my area of ​​expertise.

In short, if I observe the surrounding environment and including myself, many of us think that by gambling we can make money quickly. meaning, we hope to win big in the gambling sessions we do. even though most of us lose when gambling, our passionate curiosity makes us want to play again. rrying to find our luck, maybe this time we win. this cycle can be repeated many times, eventually becoming a habit and ending in becoming an addict. which is unique, based on my previous experience. there are always ways for us to gamble, even though previously we didn't have any money. this applies to one of the points that is your question. well, don't misinterpret it, just like you did. sometimes someone who always loses in one game will try another game. whether it's still a slot game, or any kind of gambling provided by the casino. and this is normal.
Regarding the title of this thread, "why do people always play gambling even if they always lose?" the answer is relative and very varied. we cannot generalize to every gambler. for example, there are those who really do it with the idea of ​​entertainment, there are also quite a few gamblers who just want to fulfill their gambling desires. and nothing else, they are part of the addicts.
1136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Use your winning responsibly on: January 07, 2024, 11:28:45 AM
Congratulations on what you won and at the same time what you want, I like the way you use the money you get from your gambling winnings. you use it well and according to what you want, but more ideally and wisely, use it for something we need, not what we want. therefore, it will be more useful. theoretically, managing money doesn't have to come from gambling. and IMO, try to make things like this a habit. but it is very clear that the habits we adopt lead to something positive. likewise with gambling, before we play of course we have to spend money in our pocket to carry out a gambling session. we don't always lose and we don't always get abundant profits. not infrequently, we exceed the maximum limit we can afford in gambling and end up losing a lot. and vice versa, when luck is really on our side. the victory we can obtain exceeds the expectations in our minds. and this is gambling, winning and losing will come and go.

At this point too, we must get used to disciplining ourselves. we don't always win at gambling because it is uncertain, so try not to force it if luck is not on our side. on the other hand, our gambling doesn't always end in defeat, there are times when we will get something unexpected. if luck is on our side, whatever game we play makes it easy for us to win. apart from that, most gamblers always want to double their initial bankroll. even though, it's not uncommon for us to play, the game gives us wins even if it's only a little. but because we feel we are lacking, in the end we always continue the game. the final result, depends on our luck. well, so as you say. I just want to quote a few sentences that you said, namely, be responsible for the policies that we have.
1137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 07, 2024, 12:17:12 AM
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I had the same thought. But what they need to do first is eliminate Ten Hag because he has spent a lot of money for nothing. If there is no change in coach, then he will continue to make the same blunders and there will be no such thing as a major overhaul. Man United does have some great players, but up to this moment, it seems that they do not have strong synergy and chemistry, so it will be difficult for Man United to achieve good results.

I want to ask, out of curiosity. well, how much money does Ten Hag spend in vain on some of its players, or am I the one who misread the information? as far as I know, United only has a limited budget because they have received FFP sanctions. last summer, United couldn't spend much on the players they wanted in the transfer market, because United was subject to Financial Fair Play restrictions and that caused the Glazers to only spend limited funds. if I'm wrong, please correct me. apart from that, United's problems are not only Ten Hag's fault, but this team is having problems as a whole. starting from the failure of the club's acquisition, Glazer did not intend to pay his debt so that United's burden would not be so heavy. several players were injured, and fatally, the injured were the main players. plus, the conflict between players and coaches has again worsened the Red Devil's situation. starting with Antony who was in trouble regarding a legal case, Sancho who was banned from playing, a storm of injuries hit them again. some players are undisciplined and selfish, there is no good cooperation in the games they play. also, various other problems occurred in the United camp.

I feel sorry for Ten Hag, in fact he has tried his best to get his team back on the right track. unfortunately, it is not easy, especially the problems in United's dressing room. if, Ten Hag is fired but no changes will occur in the United camp. whether in terms of players, management or any coach who replaces him, he will not succeed in making United much better. well, the problem that occurs at United is that there are no players who are respected as leaders. that's why this season United's performance has been a mess. but believe me, if in the end the United players recover from their injuries, especially Casemiro, he can be a role model for his teammates. at least, Ten Hag can re-implement the system he built last season. to find out, let's just follow future developments.
1138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 06, 2024, 11:39:40 PM
But a match is never a comparison of two teams being written on a piece of paper next to each other and then see who is going to win. It depends on the shape they are in on that day, which of the players can reach their maximum performance level, who is available at all because of injuries or health deficits otherwise, luck plays an important part in those games, too.

If it was the comparison on paper only, Manchester City would have won five Champions League titles by now and Sevilla would have won less Europa League titles by now.

Right, I agree with what you said. in football it is not only based on data and statistics. both on paper, and theoretically. in the end, the final result is determined when the match is held. moreover, the two teams only had two meetings to advance to the next phase, the team that is the most prepared and consistent has the potential to advance to the next round. however, if one of the players underperforms. or let's say one of them makes a mistake, then the result can have a big impact on the team.
for now, Liverpool and Leverkusen are the favorite teams. however, when these two teams play the match, it is possible that they will be defeated by the Underdog team. there are many factors that cause this, it could be because several players are injured, tight schedules and luck.

Apart from that, there are other teams that are able to match the play of these two teams, one example could be Brigthon. the reason is, De Zerbi's squad always puts up fierce resistance when faced with teams that are above their level. it could also be that Galatasaray provides a tough competition for teams that are quite strong in this competition. or, AC Milan finds its playing rhythm in this competition and becomes a strong team again. in essence, as long as this competition has not yet reached its final stage, there are many possibilities that could happen. in fact, it is possible that Liverpool and Leverkusen will eventually collapse along the way.
1139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 06, 2024, 11:12:03 PM
I think the same as you to be honest, Girona are good indeed but I don't think it is enough to put them ahead till the end of the season. Girona have beaten Barcelona and Atletico Madrid so they definitely have good skills but these are not. They have the combination of young and good players in the team which is working very well for them. But I think the match that will decide the fate of La Liga is the match between them in February. Whoever wins this match will get the hold of the League. If this ends in a draw then I think Real Madrid will still win the league, to be honest.

Honestly, I thought the same before as you. however, so far, Girona has remained consistent in match after match. the only defeat they experienced when they hosted Real Madrid, could have been if Girona was not too confident at that time. however, after losing at home to Madrid, Girona returned to the real track by progressing with a positive trend. previously, Girona was able to overthrow Barcelona at Camp Nou. then, Girona also beat Atletico Madrid. so, there are only two teams left for Girona to beat so far in their 19 matches. in a few weeks after the competition resumes, Girona will face Real Sociedad. in the first meeting, the match between these two teams ended in a draw, in the second meeting Girona played as the home team. the moment they play at home, they won't waste it in overthrowing Real Sociedad. after that, Girona's tough challenge will be visiting Real Madrid's headquarters at Santiago Bernabeu.

This match could be a benchmark again for Girona, but it is not a matter of player depth between the two teams which actually has a gap. however, it prioritizes the consistency of Girona's performance itself. and one of Girona's advantages, Michel's squad does not have a busy schedule. at the same time, Girona players are quite productive in scoring goals. therefore, Real Madrid cannot underestimate Michel's squad. because they have learned a lot after overthrowing Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. in essence, with Girona's current development. they have a chance to continue competing at the top of the La Liga standings. if Madrid does not want its position to be disturbed by Girona, in the match between these two teams, Carlo Ancelotti's squad must prove again to Girona for the second time that Madrid is above Girona. well, to find out more for sure. let's just follow every development. in particular, ahead of this match, either Madrid or Girona will play the other teams first. well, it would be better if we just enjoy it, because moments of competition like this are very rare.
1140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 06, 2024, 10:29:27 PM
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 The competition is still far way to its end and Al-Hilal must be able to maintain their form till the very end because any slip in 2 matches would make Al-Nassr overtake them and that’s pretty possible because football is a game and has 90 minutes to play. I think the competition between both teams is really fierce and interesting and the fans loves this healthy competition, Al-Hilal shouldn't be too comfortable with their spot on the table cause they're just 2 loses away from losing their position. And any mistake could see that become a reality which is something the CR7 fans are really hoping for.

What if the opposite happened, Al Nassr slipped in his two matches. moreover, in the 19 matches they played, Al Nassr suffered three defeats. meanwhile, Al Hilal remained consistent without losing even though of the 19 matches they played, 2 of them ended in a draw. in terms of consistency, Al Hilal is superior to its competitors. after all, in football it is unique, the situation could happen otherwise. in the upcoming match, Al Nassr has the potential to slip when playing his game. especially, when these two teams meet again. if Al Nassr falls again, that means making Al Hilal more comfortable in his position.

So, so far we have only talked based on assumptions and speculation, we will really find out after these two teams play match after match. plus, the match between these two teams. from a player's perspective, Ronaldo will definitely always try to score as many goals as he can. on Al Hilal's side, Mitrovic will be increasingly challenged to stick closely to Ronaldo in terms of scoring goals. even, if Al Hilal continues to play its best game. it is possible that Mitrovic will take over the top scorer. well, the point is that we don't know anything other than waiting as these two teams play match after match. and what is certain, to reduce Al Hilal's points, Al Nassr must overthrow him at the next meeting. the rest, if Al Hilal slips in the match they are playing. in this way, Al Nassr's chances are getting bigger to overtake the position of its rival team. however, Al Hilal is well aware that they cannot relax their performance if they want to win this competition trophy.
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